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Posted: 10/2/2018 9:25:07 AM EDT
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I dropped the Accupower off a bench table onto the concrete below it and dented the objective end. It had no effect on the function of the optic and it held zero when I remounted the optic on the rifle (Bobro mount). Had no issues with the P4xi nor did I drop it. Of the two I think I prefer the Steiner for the daylight bright dot and the price was better on it vs what I paid for on the Triji. I'm not sure what prices you are seeing for the two but I would wait until black friday at this point. |
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Posted: 10/19/2018 4:07:05 PM EDT
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I went back through this thread I found a picture of what looks like a SPR 1.5 (I forget which model number that is) with MBUS under it, with some clearance... I have that exact mount on hand already, so I'm trying to hash out details before I order a LPV. I've also been looking at the Leupold VX-R's.... I really wish they still made the German #4 version with the 10th Mil adjustments ( I missed a deal on one locally just recently). Their size and weight are really appealing, and they are daylight bright, but they do have some down sides. I have not made up my mind yet. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I have my P4xi in a Burris PEPR mount which places the centerline of the scope 1.6" above the rail and the MBUS will not fit under the ocular. I had to go with the MBUS Pro in order get one under the scope. You would probably have to go with the LT 135 in order to get enough height to clear a regular MBUS since all the other models put the centerline of the scope either at 1.5" or less above the rail. I've also been looking at the Leupold VX-R's.... I really wish they still made the German #4 version with the 10th Mil adjustments ( I missed a deal on one locally just recently). Their size and weight are really appealing, and they are daylight bright, but they do have some down sides. I have not made up my mind yet. Would it still clear with a cover on the ocular? |
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Posted: 10/19/2018 9:27:33 PM EDT
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For what it's worth...
I put a P4Xi on a Colt FSP 6720 with a Larue LT 104. It's mounted NTCH, and easily cleared the (whatever stock component Colt uses) BUIS. Today I went up to North 40 and bought Vortex caps, both of which fit beautifully. It's close, but the ocular cap fits with no interference between the scope and the BUIS. Can confirm you need the E-10 and 24 Vortex caps. |
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Posted: 10/19/2018 10:39:56 PM EDT
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For what it's worth... I put a P4Xi on a Colt FSP 6720 with a Larue LT 104. It's mounted NTCH, and easily cleared the (whatever stock component Colt uses) BUIS. Today I went up to North 40 and bought Vortex caps, both of which fit beautifully. It's close, but the ocular cap fits with no interference between the scope and the BUIS. Can confirm you need the E-10 and 24 Vortex caps. |
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Posted: 10/22/2018 12:22:19 PM EDT
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Went to shoot my 16" ar with Steiner for the first time this weekend. My 1st power scope to be honest.
I did my first zeroing at 50y and then I was gonna confirm at 200y. Problem is I cant even see hits on paper at 200y at 4x. Maybe I was using wrong type of target or whatever. How do I supposed to zero it at 200? |
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Posted: 10/22/2018 12:34:35 PM EDT
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Went to shoot my 16" ar with Steiner for the first time this weekend. My 1st power scope to be honest. I did my first zeroing at 50y and then I was gonna confirm at 200y. Problem is I cant even see hits on paper at 200y at 4x. Maybe I was using wrong type of target or whatever. How do I supposed to zero it at 200? Honestly if youre shooting M855 ammo your groups may be 6 inches or so anyways. What I like to do is zero at 50 for elevation make sure windage is good at 100 yards and shoot at a steel target at 300M to confirm shots seem to be going where they need to. |
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Posted: 10/22/2018 1:06:53 PM EDT
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Get shoot and see targets shoot 5-10 shot groups walk down range check to see where shots are hitting. Honestly if youre shooting M855 ammo your groups may be 6 inches or so anyways. What I like to do is zero at 50 for elevation make sure windage is good at 100 yards and shoot at a steel target at 300M to confirm shots seem to be going where they need to. Someone suggested trying 62gn bullet for better groups out of this barrel. |
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Posted: 10/22/2018 1:13:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My rifle is lwrc di with 1:7 twist and I was shooting 5.56 55gn federal ammo. I did get hits center mass at 200, but like you said it was about 5-6" group. Someone suggested trying 62gn bullet for better groups out of this barrel. |
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Posted: 10/22/2018 2:12:37 PM EDT
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Went to shoot my 16" ar with Steiner for the first time this weekend. My 1st power scope to be honest. I did my first zeroing at 50y and then I was gonna confirm at 200y. Problem is I cant even see hits on paper at 200y at 4x. Maybe I was using wrong type of target or whatever. How do I supposed to zero it at 200? 
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Posted: 10/28/2018 12:38:38 AM EDT
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I see the Steiner is still listed on DSG Arms with a nice discount
Would you guys FO now or wait until Black Friday and hope for an even bigger discount? Steiner 1-4x scope - $463 Steiner 1-4x scope w/ QD mount - $589 |
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Posted: 10/28/2018 1:37:13 AM EDT
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I’m waiting to see what Black Friday brings.
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Posted: 10/28/2018 3:22:47 PM EDT
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After almost buying a Khales I now have two p4xi's. My first has been amazing and help up great. These things are a great bang for the buck for sure.
Hopefully a p6xi is on the horizon. |
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Posted: 10/29/2018 10:01:59 AM EDT
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Anyone care to compare the P4xi to the Burris RT6?
I just got an RT6 on Saturday and I'm quite happy with it, but I need to pick up another and am open to other suggestions |
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Posted: 10/29/2018 10:15:19 AM EDT
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Received the P4Xi today from a popular vendor of these scopes. Question: has anyone else received their package with the "inspected - certified" sticker/seal broken? I'm trying to determine if that is normal or if I received an "open box" model. |
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Posted: 10/29/2018 3:03:36 PM EDT
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Anyone care to compare the P4xi to the Burris RT6? I just got an RT6 on Saturday and I'm quite happy with it, but I need to pick up another and am open to other suggestions |
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Posted: 10/29/2018 5:08:12 PM EDT
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Yes I have one mounted on a HK 556.
Great scope and super price . DGS has them with the mount. Enjoy, Alan |
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Posted: 10/29/2018 5:38:43 PM EDT
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Anyone care to compare the P4xi to the Burris RT6? I just got an RT6 on Saturday and I'm quite happy with it, but I need to pick up another and am open to other suggestions Quoted: I'm in the same boat. After initially shooting the two side by side, I bought the RT6 and I'm ok with it. I'd really like compare the two further. EDIT: Forgot link https://www.ar15.com/forums/ar-15/Burris-RT6-vs-Viper-PST-Gen-II-1-6x24-vs-Steiner-P4Xi/18-731868/ |
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Posted: 10/29/2018 11:09:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I asked a similar question before settling on a Viper pst gen 2. I've never even looked through the rt6 or the p4xi but from what I gathered from folks talking about each was that the Steiner has better glass and is daylight bright. While the rt6 punches far above it's weight class the glass isn't as good as the Steiner and the lume isn't daylight bright. With that said the rt6 costs a good deal less as well. I'd have to live with them a while. |
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Posted: 10/30/2018 7:22:10 PM EDT
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Certainly my take. Is the Steiner worth 60% more $$$? It would take more than a couple hours on the range for me to answer than. I'd have to live with them a while. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: I asked a similar question before settling on a Viper pst gen 2. I've never even looked through the rt6 or the p4xi but from what I gathered from folks talking about each was that the Steiner has better glass and is daylight bright. While the rt6 punches far above it's weight class the glass isn't as good as the Steiner and the lume isn't daylight bright. With that said the rt6 costs a good deal less as well. I'd have to live with them a while. That glass is the best I’ve had the chance to look through |
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Posted: 10/30/2018 11:10:22 PM EDT
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Honestly, I bet it is That glass is the best I’ve had the chance to look through |
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Posted: 11/1/2018 8:16:31 PM EDT
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I don't know if I would go that far. Best under $600 maybe, but it would have competition. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Honestly, I bet it is That glass is the best I’ve had the chance to look through I know that’s limited glass, but for me it’s the bomb dot com |
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Posted: 11/2/2018 3:15:09 PM EDT
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Better than any Vortex, Trijicon, Leupold, SWFA and Nikon I’ve looked through I know that’s limited glass, but for me it’s the bomb dot com |
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Posted: 11/2/2018 6:31:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I plan on picking one up here soon, best deal with or without a mount? |
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Posted: 11/2/2018 6:35:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You can buy one through ExpertVoice for $400. Thanks in advance |
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Posted: 11/2/2018 6:59:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Can you link me to that? Thanks in advance |
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Posted: 11/2/2018 7:10:20 PM EDT
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www.expertvoice.com 
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Posted: 11/3/2018 10:12:43 AM EDT
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Better than any Vortex, Trijicon, Leupold, SWFA and Nikon I’ve looked through I know that’s limited glass, but for me it’s the bomb dot com Have you compared to Leupold VX6 1-6 ? |
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Posted: 11/3/2018 10:18:44 AM EDT
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@NotanATFagent Have you compared to Leupold VX6 1-6 ? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Better than any Vortex, Trijicon, Leupold, SWFA and Nikon I’ve looked through I know that’s limited glass, but for me it’s the bomb dot com Have you compared to Leupold VX6 1-6 ? Wouldn’t really find that to be a fair comparison though. Spending twice as much should get your a nicer scope, normally. |
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Posted: 11/3/2018 10:33:03 AM EDT
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No I haven’t. Wouldn’t really find that to be a fair comparison though. Spending twice as much should get your a nicer scope, normally. |
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Posted: 11/8/2018 1:43:39 AM EDT
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Is anyone using the P4Xi with Geissele mounts? I'm trying to determine what the best length would be to go with these or if I can just snag one of the SOPMOD 30mm models that's designed for the Vortex Razor HD II and have it work out. Ideally I want 1.93" height, but it's looking like that may be a no-go.
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Posted: 11/8/2018 1:06:17 PM EDT
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Is anyone using the P4Xi with Geissele mounts? I'm trying to determine what the best length would be to go with these or if I can just snag one of the SOPMOD 30mm models that's designed for the Vortex Razor HD II and have it work out. Ideally I want 1.93" height, but it's looking like that may be a no-go. |
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Posted: 11/8/2018 1:10:54 PM EDT
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I thought @shortbuss used a Geissele Mount with his, but I could be mistaken |
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Posted: 11/8/2018 3:14:33 PM EDT
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What is a good price for a P4xi?
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Posted: 11/8/2018 3:42:58 PM EDT
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What is a good price for a P4xi?
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Posted: 11/8/2018 3:46:14 PM EDT
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Where can I get one for $379?
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Posted: 11/8/2018 4:20:45 PM EDT
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Where can I get one for $379? |
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Posted: 11/8/2018 4:47:15 PM EDT
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Where can I get one for $379? 
I agree, wait for Black Friday |
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Posted: 11/8/2018 9:09:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: $379 and free shipping BTW, the optics planet price is $521.99 and a 10% coupon off that. That would put it about $470. |
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Posted: 11/10/2018 4:20:53 PM EDT
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Anyone have experience with the Mercon 1-6x scope compared to the Steiner 1-4x?
Comparable price and that extra 2x mag ification would be nice It would come down to glass quality though https://www.rainierarms.com/mercon-1-6x-scopes/ |
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Posted: 11/10/2018 4:43:44 PM EDT
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Anyone have experience with the Mercon 1-6x scope compared to the Steiner 1-4x? Comparable price and that extra 2x mag ification would be nice It would come down to glass quality though https://www.rainierarms.com/mercon-1-6x-scopes/  Mercon MK1 1-6x Low Power Variable Optic (Red dot and Long range?) https://youtu.be/HmZdH3wGGgo Personally, I'm very happy with the Steiner. |
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Posted: 11/10/2018 4:49:57 PM EDT
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I don't have any personal experience with the Mercon but check out GT's review.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmZdH3wGGgo
https://youtu.be/HmZdH3wGGgo Personally, I'm very happy with the Steiner. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Anyone have experience with the Mercon 1-6x scope compared to the Steiner 1-4x? Comparable price and that extra 2x mag ification would be nice It would come down to glass quality though https://www.rainierarms.com/mercon-1-6x-scopes/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmZdH3wGGgo
https://youtu.be/HmZdH3wGGgo Personally, I'm very happy with the Steiner. Seems like the Steiner would be better Thanks! |
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Posted: 11/10/2018 8:13:03 PM EDT
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Anyone have experience with the Mercon 1-6x scope compared to the Steiner 1-4x? Comparable price and that extra 2x mag ification would be nice It would come down to glass quality though https://www.rainierarms.com/mercon-1-6x-scopes/ |
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Posted: 11/10/2018 8:59:29 PM EDT
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Where can I get one for $379? The throw lever is $60.00 or so (there's a synthetic version for about $20), and a set of caps will set you back $20-$40, depending on brand. I waited three or four months to hit a sale...paid $376.99. |
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Posted: 11/10/2018 10:15:54 PM EDT
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Optics Planet is persona non grata with a lot of ARF (for a good reason that escapes me right now) On topic, Optics Planet currently has 14% off the P4Xi with code 14RIF18, which puts the throw levered model at $448.91 for me. Factor in $60 for a throw lever and it puts it around $388 shipped, which is as close to the bottom as I've heard so far. Worth it? |
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Posted: 11/10/2018 10:52:06 PM EDT
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I just picked up the 5202 model which includes the throw lever for $448.91 to my door on Optics Planet. I've heard lots of good things about these and have never tried any of their products out.
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Posted: 11/11/2018 12:50:24 PM EDT
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I just picked up the 5202 model which includes the throw lever for $448.91 to my door on Optics Planet. I've heard lots of good things about these and have never tried any of their products out. |
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Posted: 11/11/2018 3:08:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is that realistic? Have they dipped to that during a sale? I saw some guy on YouTube claim to have gotten one for $280. I am skeptical. What is the best price you have seen? BTW, the optics planet price is $521.99 and a 10% coupon off that. That would put it about $470.  Attached FileA couple of posts up verified it's the model without the throw lever, but I found an aluminum one on flea-bay that fits, for for $11.99-free shipping |
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Posted: 11/11/2018 6:36:45 PM EDT
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If new P4XIs are out there for under $400 i'd jump on that in a heartbeat. I paid something around $450 for mine with the throw lever from DSG and felt pretty damn good about that price.
For the money, it's one of the best (if not the best) LPVOs on the market. |
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Posted: 11/12/2018 12:21:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Where did you get the 14% coupon? |
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Posted: 11/12/2018 5:20:26 PM EDT
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$477 for me right now on Optics Planet due to Michigan taxes
I’ll wait until Black Friday |
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