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Posted: 2/15/2006 7:44:36 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/15/2006 7:45:30 AM EDT by erikd65]
So far I have two mags that came with the DPMS, and I still need a few more. I was thinking two more 30's and one 20, and of course a bandolier with loaded stripper clips ready to go. Is this enough for a "grab and go" setup?

I guess what I am asking is how many rounds would be enough for a "grab and go" already loaded in the magazines?

Thanks!

E
Link Posted: 2/15/2006 8:02:00 AM EDT
I think to know the exact number of mags someone is going to say
Link Posted: 2/15/2006 8:04:12 AM EDT
87?
Link Posted: 2/15/2006 8:04:48 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/15/2006 8:05:03 AM EDT by WIZZO_ARAKM14]
The answer is always "One more"



WIZZO
Link Posted: 2/15/2006 8:11:11 AM EDT
Only time you can have to many magazines is when you are swiming.
Link Posted: 2/15/2006 8:11:15 AM EDT
681,893,697,973,651,023,981,011,566,876,443,1­67,986,465,103,875,164,321,465,875,462,145,54­1,333,158,437,951,753,497,132,468,426,461,756­,497,365,468,425 to the power of 87...

That's ENOUGH!

Sly
Link Posted: 2/15/2006 8:14:34 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/15/2006 8:15:21 AM EDT by pyro6988]
I will give you a honest answer.

You should have at a minimum of 20 mags per battle rifle. I would say at least 6 loaded.
Link Posted: 2/15/2006 8:20:18 AM EDT
Wow! 87!!! Guess I beter break open the piggy bank hock.gif

20 is do-able... I guess I need to start buying them here and there E
Link Posted: 2/15/2006 8:31:31 AM EDT

Originally Posted By WIZZO_ARAKM14:
The answer is always "One more"



WIZZO



this is new to me but I like it




Originally Posted By erikd65:
Wow! 87!!! Guess I beter break open the piggy bank

20 is do-able... I guess I need to start buying them here and there

E



87 is nothing compared to what you can see here www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=17&t=247764

Link Posted: 2/15/2006 8:35:54 AM EDT

Originally Posted By scottryan:
87?



Sniff....

You guys make me SO PROUD!! I'm tearing up.
Link Posted: 2/15/2006 8:38:29 AM EDT

Originally Posted By pyro6988:
You should have at a minimum of 20 mags per battle rifle.



Thin air?
Magic formula?
Guru recommendation?
Source?

Link Posted: 2/15/2006 8:39:57 AM EDT

Originally Posted By erikd65:
Wow! 87!!! Guess I beter break open the piggy bank hock.gif

20 is do-able... I guess I need to start buying them here and there hr


That's what I am doing. My CAR came with 1 20 and 2 30rd's. I bought another 20 off of Evilbay and a 40 rounder here at ar15.com.
Link Posted: 2/15/2006 8:40:09 AM EDT
Oh yeah, if you have to ask how many are enough -- you don't have enough.

Link Posted: 2/15/2006 8:46:09 AM EDT

Originally Posted By SHIVAN:
Oh yeah, if you have to ask how many are enough -- you don't have enough.

hr


In that case I better just buy a few cases until I start asking again
Link Posted: 2/15/2006 9:19:00 AM EDT
You need to have at LEAST six ready to go.

I use the rule of 3x, If your loadout consists of 6 mags you should have at least 18 mags for that rifle.

I have 9 in my loadout so I have at least 27. Buy as many as you can, you never know when the next ban will come. I currently have over 50 mags

Heres about the best price going- www.44mag.com/
Link Posted: 2/15/2006 9:31:06 AM EDT

Originally Posted By NonConformist:
You need to have at LEAST six ready to go.

I use the rule of 3x, If your loadout consists of 6 mags you should have at least 18 mags for that rifle.

I have 9 in my loadout so I have at least 27. Buy as many as you can, you never know when the next ban will come. I currently have over 50 mags

Heres about the best price going- www.44mag.com/



Yeah, been looking at getting some from 44mag, but they are out of stock of the ones I want hinking.gif
Link Posted: 2/15/2006 11:59:50 AM EDT
The "rule of 3X" sounds reasonable with a further amount of mags, followers and springs for when the next Ban comes around.
Link Posted: 2/15/2006 1:10:48 PM EDT
I have somewhere around 75-80 thirty rounders and about 20 twenty rounders. That's not enough. What's the deal with 87???

TS
Link Posted: 2/15/2006 1:29:17 PM EDT

Originally Posted By TigerStripe:
I have somewhere around 75-80 thirty rounders and about 20 twenty rounders. That's not enough. What's the deal with 87???

TS



87

Those who need to know what this is, know what this is...

Sly
Link Posted: 2/15/2006 3:02:08 PM EDT
Does 87 have anything to do with September 17th, 1787???

E
Link Posted: 2/15/2006 3:11:04 PM EDT

Originally Posted By erikd65:
So far I have two mags that came with the DPMS, and I still need a few more. I was thinking two more 30's and one 20, and of course a bandolier with loaded stripper clips ready to go. Is this enough for a "grab and go" setup?

I guess what I am asking is how many rounds would be enough for a "grab and go" already loaded in the magazines?

Thanks!

E


Erik, Wasn't this the original question? :) :)
Link Posted: 2/15/2006 3:13:37 PM EDT
I think I have 20 30's and 2 5's This is no where near enough mags.
Link Posted: 2/15/2006 3:46:25 PM EDT
What do you guys think about 40rd mags? I see alot of talk about 20's and 30's.
Link Posted: 2/15/2006 3:48:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/15/2006 3:50:07 PM EDT by erikd65]

Originally Posted By akula99:

Originally Posted By erikd65:
So far I have two mags that came with the DPMS, and I still need a few more. I was thinking two more 30's and one 20, and of course a bandolier with loaded stripper clips ready to go. Is this enough for a "grab and go" setup?

I guess what I am asking is how many rounds would be enough for a "grab and go" already loaded in the magazines?

Thanks!

E


Erik, Wasn't this the original question? :) :)



Well, yeah, but I am curious about the whole 87 thing now.
Link Posted: 2/15/2006 4:02:19 PM EDT
mags ready to go, we waiting for a Red Dawn type situation? lol I have 2 20's and 2 30's ready to fly myself.
Link Posted: 2/15/2006 4:20:08 PM EDT

Originally Posted By RobbieB:
What do you guys think about 40rd mags? I see alot of talk about 20's and 30's.


Only if you can find a Sterling. At a cost of @$90.00+/- it's not worth it. I only use mine for 3-gun.
Link Posted: 2/15/2006 5:02:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/15/2006 5:06:44 PM EDT by billclo]

Originally Posted By RobbieB:
What do you guys think about 40rd mags? I see alot of talk about 20's and 30's.



30-rd mags can be a bit of a pain to shoot with in the prone position; the 40 rd mags would really suck. Plus you're only likely to find aftermarket crapola 40-rd mags. Stick with USGI mags; avoid plastic mags, avoid any steel mags but maybe the British or Singapore made ones...


As for how many do you need? A lifetime's worth. I say at least 20 mags to use, and as many more as you can afford. You can always sell the excess when a ban is threatened and make some money if you feel you have too many.


As for how many mags you want to have ready to go. I'd say at least 7, maybe 10. Depends on how much weight you can handle if you are going foot mobile. By the time you fire 10 30-rd mags worth, your barrel will be super hot, maybe cooking off rounds. That's per rifle of course.
Link Posted: 2/15/2006 5:24:12 PM EDT
Just pick up a couple whenever you go to the gun shows. When you finally walk by a table and say to yourself, "I don't need anymore", then you have a enough.
Link Posted: 2/15/2006 6:46:15 PM EDT
as many as possible

for loadout: 10+
Link Posted: 2/15/2006 7:37:02 PM EDT

Originally Posted By RobbieB:
mags ready to go, we waiting for a Red Dawn type situation? lol I have 2 20's and 2 30's ready to fly myself.



Not red dawn... just the breakdown of society. We seem to be heading that way.
Link Posted: 2/16/2006 2:34:14 AM EDT
I have a guy that wants to sell me 2 30rd mags for $17 including shipping, is this a good deal or no? I will attempt to find out who made them.
Link Posted: 2/16/2006 3:38:47 AM EDT

Originally Posted By RobbieB:
I have a guy that wants to sell me 2 30rd mags for $17 including shipping, is this a good deal or no? I will attempt to find out who made them.



Depends on condition. If they were USGI, new, they cost about $10-13 new today.
Link Posted: 2/16/2006 7:23:06 AM EDT

Originally Posted By SHIVAN:

Originally Posted By pyro6988:
You should have at a minimum of 20 mags per battle rifle.



Thin air?
Magic formula?
Guru recommendation?
Source?





What is your recommendation then?

I think most would agree with 20 as a minimum.

If you must have a source, Boston T. Party
Link Posted: 2/16/2006 10:15:17 AM EDT
I have a couple of hundred back at the house. In country I have 30..
Link Posted: 2/16/2006 10:28:21 AM EDT
As many as you can absolutely stuff, stash, or store. I have thirty 30 rounders and about seven or eight 20 rounders and it isn't nearly enough to satisfy my craving.
Link Posted: 2/16/2006 12:13:16 PM EDT
Not Enough:

Link Posted: 2/16/2006 12:24:13 PM EDT

Originally Posted By pyro6988:

Originally Posted By SHIVAN:

Originally Posted By pyro6988:
You should have at a minimum of 20 mags per battle rifle.



Thin air?
Magic formula?
Guru recommendation?
Source?





What is your recommendation then?

I think most would agree with 20 as a minimum.

If you must have a source, Boston T. Party



When you stop asking yourself if you have enough mags.

Minimum? Whatever you want to make it.

For the past 4 years I got by with 15 mags shared between 3 AR's and an M16.

I recently bought 20 D&H + Magpul mags...

I never felt "undergunned" with the 15 mags, and I don't feel overgunned with the 20 new mags + the original 15.

Quite honestly I just wanted to hear you say that it's a made up number. Thanks.
Link Posted: 2/16/2006 1:02:08 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Gregory_K:
Only time you can have to many magazines is when you are swiming.



Link Posted: 2/16/2006 2:04:08 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Q3131A:
Not Enough:

photos.ar15.com/ImageGallery/Attachments/DownloadAttach.asp?iImageUnq=44457




Those mags that are sealed up, Who makes 'em? How Much? Now I know where all the 30 rounders went during the ban
Link Posted: 2/16/2006 3:00:39 PM EDT

Originally Posted By NonConformist:

Originally Posted By Q3131A:
Not Enough:

photos.ar15.com/ImageGallery/Attachments/DownloadAttach.asp?iImageUnq=44457




Those mags that are sealed up, Who makes 'em? How Much? Now I know where all the 30 rounders went during the ban



IIRC, Q3131A took that pic from someone else's post. From what he's said... That wasn't near as many as he used to have during the ban. Something about selling em' off and buying a Kabota tractor... NOt that I pay attention to this site or nothing like that!

Sly
Link Posted: 2/16/2006 10:35:42 PM EDT
I always recommend 20 (30 Round magazines) per rifle
Link Posted: 2/16/2006 11:20:48 PM EDT
What is this "enough" of which you speak

Link Posted: 2/17/2006 5:55:46 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/17/2006 9:43:43 AM EDT by Q3131A]

Originally Posted By I-M-A-WMD:

Originally Posted By NonConformist:

Originally Posted By Q3131A:
Not Enough:

photos.ar15.com/ImageGallery/Attachments/DownloadAttach.asp?iImageUnq=44457




Those mags that are sealed up, Who makes 'em? How Much? Now I know where all the 30 rounders went during the ban



IIRC, Q3131A took that pic from someone else's post. From what he's said... That wasn't near as many as he used to have during the ban. Something about selling em' off and buying a Kabota tractor... NOt that I pay attention to this site or nothing like that!

Sly



Correct. Not my mags. I had about 500 during the peak of the ban which I sold to a local gunstore back when I lived in VA. I took the profit and used it as a down payment on a farm tractor.

I am slowly rebuilding my mag stash, but I still have less than 100.
Link Posted: 2/17/2006 9:06:48 AM EDT

Originally Posted By RobbieB:

Originally Posted By erikd65:
Wow! 87!!! Guess I beter break open the piggy bank

20 is do-able... I guess I need to start buying them here and there

E



That's what I am doing. My CAR came with 1 20 and 2 30rd's. I bought another 20 off of Evilbay and a 40 rounder here at ar15.com.



Add another 6 30 rounders.
Link Posted: 2/17/2006 5:06:30 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Gamma762:
What is this "enough" of which you speak




+1
Link Posted: 2/17/2006 5:11:58 PM EDT

Originally Posted By erikd65:

Originally Posted By akula99:

Originally Posted By erikd65:
So far I have two mags that came with the DPMS, and I still need a few more. I was thinking two more 30's and one 20, and of course a bandolier with loaded stripper clips ready to go. Is this enough for a "grab and go" setup?

I guess what I am asking is how many rounds would be enough for a "grab and go" already loaded in the magazines?

Thanks!

E


Erik, Wasn't this the original question? :) :)



Well, yeah, but I am curious about the whole 87 thing now.





Originally Posted by markm:

"87 is the answer to ALL STUPID QUESTIONS! People too often try to quantify UNquantifiable things...Like... How many mags should I have per gun? That is a XXXXXXX STUPID QUESTION... It depends on a million things. No one answer is the right answer for everyone!

NOW you know the secret of 87!" -markm


Link Posted: 2/17/2006 8:09:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/17/2006 8:10:00 PM EDT by PACorps]

Originally Posted By billclo:
...avoid any steel mags but maybe the British or Singapore made ones...




Don't forget those by HK - though they are a bit pricey.
Link Posted: 2/19/2006 5:56:44 PM EDT

Originally Posted By erikd65:

Originally Posted By NonConformist:
You need to have at LEAST six ready to go.

I use the rule of 3x, If your loadout consists of 6 mags you should have at least 18 mags for that rifle.

I have 9 in my loadout so I have at least 27. Buy as many as you can, you never know when the next ban will come. I currently have over 50 mags

Heres about the best price going- www.44mag.com/



Yeah, been looking at getting some from 44mag, but they are out of stock of the ones I want



I just ordered 10 30 rounders even if they were on back order. $10 a piece is pretty darn good.
Link Posted: 2/19/2006 9:51:23 PM EDT
i got about 25 mags now, and feel pretty comfortable with that #. If another ban looked likely, i'd order a huge pile of em (like a case), then slowly sell most of them off when the prices went nuts.
Link Posted: 2/20/2006 3:09:38 AM EDT

Originally Posted By the-fly:
i got about 25 mags now, and feel pretty comfortable with that #. If another ban looked likely, i'd order a huge pile of em (like a case), then slowly sell most of them off when the prices went nuts.



I thought like that in the early '90s. Bit me in the ass it did. I had been buying mags for about $6-7 NIW. As soon as there was even the hint of a ban, prices went up - to like $15ish. Then as the likelihood of a ban got greater, prices really went nuts.

The same happened with Black Talon Ammo...when there was talk of a law against it, I bought up several cases of the stuff. People seemed unconcerned about it. Then BAM, Winchester stopped selling it to civvies, and the price doubled overnight. Literally overnight.

I guess my point is this: don't wait til there is talk of a ban; prices will go up, and faster than you'd think.
Link Posted: 2/20/2006 9:25:22 PM EDT

Originally Posted By RobbieB:
What do you guys think about 40rd mags? I see alot of talk about 20's and 30's.



Robbie, I'm new to the AR-15 scene... but I have found that, when shooting prone (either from a bipod or from the Marine position), a 20 round mag is OK; a 30-round mag is almost too large. A 40 rounder would get in the way. Standing, sitting or kneeling, there isn't a problem.

That said... determine your tactical needs... go from there. Personally I keep a 30 rounder loaded in the rifle (in condition 2), with another 30 rounder and two 20-rounders available. This is kept ready to "grab and go."

I'm considering a magazine clamp, one that allows a couple of mags to be clamped together, and keep this loaded in my rifle.

My inventory: 2 each 20 and 30 rounders, with an additional 30 and four 20's for the range. But I'm as susceptable to "mag fever" as anyone.
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