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Posted: 1/7/2022 9:12:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brasscrossedrifles: At the potential price point? I think its a dumb idea too but I'd buy one for $300 just for the lols. I came to this thread to suggest a 723 but the 653 is fine too. I'd spend a decent amount of cash for a M3/M3A1. |
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Posted: 1/8/2022 11:24:00 AM EDT
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I know we've all been hammering you guys with a wish list. Maybe in the future a limited run of prototype "Never Was" with a proper 7.5" pencil barrel and .625 FSB would be awesome.
PFA  
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ND, USA
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Posted: 1/8/2022 3:13:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RoosterX19: I know we've all been hammering you guys with a wish list. Maybe in the future a limited run of prototype "Never Was" with a proper 7.5" pencil barrel and .625 FSB would be awesome. PFA https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/480444/260749010_751509815775990_16164327234130-2192197.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/480444/261605378_889538715063321_77670346613333-2192198.jpg Gross. |
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KY, USA
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Posted: 1/8/2022 3:14:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BigRix: Great news for Mike, Harlan and for all of us Retro Heads! Yes please on the H&R M16A1! https://ar180parts.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/Untitled.jpg I'm down for 2 |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 1/8/2022 4:44:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RoosterX19: I know we've all been hammering you guys with a wish list. Maybe in the future a limited run of prototype "Never Was" with a proper 7.5" pencil barrel and .625 FSB would be awesome. PFA Absolutely agree, pencil 7.5'' barrels are really neat. 
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Posted: 1/8/2022 4:56:50 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By RoosterX19: I know we've all been hammering you guys with a wish list. Maybe in the future a limited run of prototype "Never Was" with a proper 7.5" pencil barrel and .625 FSB would be awesome. PFA https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/480444/260749010_751509815775990_16164327234130-2192197.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/480444/261605378_889538715063321_77670346613333-2192198.jpg Originally Posted By velken: Absolutely agree, pencil 7.5'' barrels are really neat. https://i.ibb.co/yscxYWQ/IMG-5458.jpg Every day we stray further from Gods light. 
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Posted: 1/8/2022 5:54:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kalahnikid: Every day we stray further from Gods light. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kalahnikid: Originally Posted By RoosterX19: I know we've all been hammering you guys with a wish list. Maybe in the future a limited run of prototype "Never Was" with a proper 7.5" pencil barrel and .625 FSB would be awesome. PFA https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/480444/260749010_751509815775990_16164327234130-2192197.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/480444/261605378_889538715063321_77670346613333-2192198.jpg Originally Posted By velken: Absolutely agree, pencil 7.5'' barrels are really neat. https://i.ibb.co/yscxYWQ/IMG-5458.jpg 
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Posted: 1/8/2022 6:39:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: swampfoxoutdoors]
[#8]
Originally Posted By RoosterX19: I know we've all been hammering you guys with a wish list. Maybe in the future a limited run of prototype "Never Was" with a proper 7.5" pencil barrel and .625 FSB would be awesome. PFA https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/480444/260749010_751509815775990_16164327234130-2192197.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/480444/261605378_889538715063321_77670346613333-2192198.jpg Originally Posted By velken: Absolutely agree, pencil 7.5'' barrels are really neat. https://i.ibb.co/yscxYWQ/IMG-5458.jpg I’d buy the shit out of either of those. Great builds guys. |
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Posted: 1/9/2022 10:19:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jman_JJE: We are looking at some SMG, but need some clarification on the brace regulations before we make a decision. As long as we're in the retro forum, what about a Swedish K or S&W M76?? |
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NJ, USA
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Posted: 1/9/2022 2:54:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Chadwick1]
[#10]
Best of luck to you & Harlan, Mike. I’ve bought several lowers from you guys & they were all top notch! Can’t wait to get a H & R M16A1 receiver.
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Posted: 1/9/2022 3:46:50 PM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chadwick1: Best of luck to you & Harlan, Mike. I’ve bought several lowers from you guys & they were all top notch! Can’t wait to get a H & R M17A1 receiver. Me either.
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Posted: 1/9/2022 8:13:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: HipSh0T]
[#12]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By backbencher: Me either. 
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SD, USA
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Posted: 1/10/2022 2:03:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KnoBodyKarz: HenryKnoxFineBooks posted: “Typically, when a small speciality company gets bought out, there is the promise of nothing changing, only now there will be more resources to produce what made the small company attractive for the buyout. The small company is frequently successful because it will serve a market niche that large companies did not find profitable. A reason for that success is the investment in the cost of production and quality that results in a lower margin, but appeals to the market leaders that make the product popular. Within a year, the popular product is withdrawn and level of service quality declines - we shall see if this will be the exception.” In my opinion if you want something from Nodak buy it now. I bought an AK pistol from Palmetto State Armory and it was a gauntlet of BS to try and get them to repair it. Seriously, if there is a negative comment about Nodak’ quality I’ve yet to hear it. On the other hand to all you cheerleaders who think this is a wonder thing I suggest you read the comments about Palmetto State Armory (PSA) on the Better Business Bureau website or look at what people have stated on the “Ripoff Report” about PSA. I believe there will shortly be two kinds of Nodak products: those produced BEFORE PSA bought them out and those produced AFTER PSA bought them out and the prices will reflect that. You’ve been warned. Fully agree. From my observations over the years is PSA is where dreams, great ideas, customer service, fulfilling market needs, etc x100 go to die, never to be seen again. Just a realist who deals with and watches companies wither away. |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 1/10/2022 3:34:53 AM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Plumber576: As long as we're in the retro forum, what about a Swedish K or S&W M76?? I would love to see the Swedish K |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 1/10/2022 8:11:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Plumber576: As long as we're in the retro forum, what about a Swedish K or S&W M76?? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Plumber576: Originally Posted By Jman_JJE: We are looking at some SMG, but need some clarification on the brace regulations before we make a decision. As long as we're in the retro forum, what about a Swedish K or S&W M76?? Hell yeah!! I’d love to my hands on a copy of a S&W Model 76 “SBR Ready” pistol with an 8” barrel!! |
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Posted: 1/11/2022 4:32:47 PM EDT
[#16]
You guys are asking for a lot. I'll be happy to see all of the uppers and lowers Nodak offered, in gray. Retro barrels will be nice, too.
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KY, USA
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Posted: 1/11/2022 9:10:20 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By craig19: You guys are asking for a lot. I'll be happy to see all of the uppers and lowers Nodak offered, in gray. Retro barrels will be nice, too. M16A1 H&R marked lower (safe, semi, auto) XM177 H&R marked lower (safe, semi, auto) Yeah, I know H&R never made XM177s, but I still want one.😉 |
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Posted: 1/11/2022 10:05:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By IHC53: M16A1 H&R marked lower (safe, semi, auto) XM177 H&R marked lower (safe, semi, auto) Yeah, I know H&R never made XM177s, but I still want one.😉 An XM177E2 is my next project. |
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Posted: 1/12/2022 1:37:52 AM EDT
[#19]
Well this sucks.
I have been tring to get a pair of retro lowers to replicate my dads rifle and carbine from Vietnam. My mom found his weapon custody recipts and I wanted to replicate them. I tried to get on the next 80%'s but now they are not coming. |
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Posted: 1/12/2022 2:31:55 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Sputnik556]
[#20]
I have a suggestion since we were talking Sterlings awhile back…
Stormtrooper blasters. They’re based on the Sterling, and they don’t even need a brace.  
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Posted: 1/12/2022 7:55:33 AM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bergunx: I’m sitting on 10-12 new NoDak AR receivers and once I can get my hands on these new H&R receivers, I’ll be selling those NDS receivers off to fund my purchases of H&R receivers and barrels. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bergunx: Originally Posted By 32ACP: Does this mean my NODAK lowers are worth more, less or? Selling crap anyway, just don’t know whether this hurts or benefits me. I’m sitting on 10-12 new NoDak AR receivers and once I can get my hands on these new H&R receivers, I’ll be selling those NDS receivers off to fund my purchases of H&R receivers and barrels. I’m only sitting on one slab side for a 604 build that has a Green Mountain 1/12 barrel….trying to figure out how to post pics for sale |
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Posted: 1/12/2022 9:01:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sputnik556: I have a suggestion since we were talking Sterlings awhile back… Stormtrooper blasters. They’re based on the Sterling, and they don’t even need a brace. https://www.moviefx-business.com/images/product_images/original_images/stormtrooper_blaster.jpg @DimaChado |
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Posted: 1/12/2022 9:27:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Elcunning: Well this sucks. I have been tring to get a pair of retro lowers to replicate my dads rifle and carbine from Vietnam. My mom found his weapon custody recipts and I wanted to replicate them. I tried to get on the next 80%'s but now they are not coming. PRI still sells 80% A1 receivers but they're OOS right now. You could put a couple on back order. https://www.precisionreflex.com/lowers-lower-parts/678-ar15-a1-80-lower-receiver-white-aluminum.html |
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Posted: 1/12/2022 11:26:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By backbencher: @DimaChado That's pretty sexy! |
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Posted: 1/12/2022 12:59:28 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DimaChado: That's pretty sexy! Would go w/ your avatar rather well. And seeing as you already have an extra capacity power pack...
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Posted: 1/12/2022 1:25:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rope-A-Dope: Is there a reason why we don't see engraved fake third pins? ETA - I used the Googlemonster instead of ARF search and got the story. Basically, ATF overreach and we are too smart to poke the bully. I also learned to hate Steve Troy. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/473932/Troy-Defense-FCG-pocket_jpg-2232281.JPG It’s not worth the hassle. My thoughts on this matter are very simple. You Have a Faux m16a1 receiver, putting a fake 3rd pin on it will only potentially create issues for someone down the line. Maybe not everyone but it will have a hang up somewhere for someone. Just engraving AUTO is enough to melt some FFL’s minds. Trust me. ATF defined the fake sear as an indexing hole. No matter if it’s the wrong size, in the wrong place, they don’t like it. If there is no sear hole or fake sear hole it creates way less confusion on the consumers/transfer/ownership end. |
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Posted: 1/12/2022 9:48:42 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mike_nds: Rest assured, I plan to take a metered approach to product offerings and make this a sustainable endeavor. I want to keep the retro program focused on the core products that allow home builders to make their dreams come true. We will come out with a FEW complete guns, but as we've seen, it's hard to mass produce replica firearms that advanced collectors approve of. This is extremely exciting for me and I have big plans for H&R, and not just in the retro AR15 market. The biggest thing I ask is to have patience, as there will be a transition and learning curve for my new crew. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mike_nds: Originally Posted By --FLEET--: Whoa. As a long time NDS customer, I'm not sure how I feel about this. I hope this means that their products will be more available with more production capacity and shorter wait times. However, being a part of a large corp, I hope products don't get discontinued if sales don't match the market projections (i.e. brownells). On the bright side, hopefully this means these parts will continue to be produced if/when Mike and Harlan retire Also, I didnt need an H&R A1 clone in my life...until now Rest assured, I plan to take a metered approach to product offerings and make this a sustainable endeavor. I want to keep the retro program focused on the core products that allow home builders to make their dreams come true. We will come out with a FEW complete guns, but as we've seen, it's hard to mass produce replica firearms that advanced collectors approve of. This is extremely exciting for me and I have big plans for H&R, and not just in the retro AR15 market. The biggest thing I ask is to have patience, as there will be a transition and learning curve for my new crew. Ding ! Ding ! Ding ! We have a winner !! Thank you for the update. kwg |
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Posted: 1/12/2022 10:02:24 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RoosterX19: I know we've all been hammering you guys with a wish list. Maybe in the future a limited run of prototype "Never Was" with a proper 7.5" pencil barrel and .625 FSB would be awesome. PFA https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/480444/260749010_751509815775990_16164327234130-2192197.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/480444/261605378_889538715063321_77670346613333-2192198.jpg Awesome Browndak!!!!!! |
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Posted: 1/12/2022 10:27:43 PM EDT
[#29]
Cant prove, but i am convinced this is left over from H&R bolt rifle(Mauser 98) production.
 Attached File Attached File@mike_nds 
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Posted: 1/13/2022 7:09:46 PM EDT
[#30]
Neat!
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Posted: 1/13/2022 8:42:10 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RoosterX19: I know we've all been hammering you guys with a wish list. Maybe in the future a limited run of prototype "Never Was" with a proper 7.5" pencil barrel and .625 FSB would be awesome. PFA https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/480444/260749010_751509815775990_16164327234130-2192197.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/480444/261605378_889538715063321_77670346613333-2192198.jpg Is that a standard carbine size buffer/tube? |
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Posted: 1/15/2022 11:33:49 AM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By craig19: Is that a standard carbine size buffer/tube? No, that's the LWRC short tube. |
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Posted: 1/15/2022 11:35:12 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Rooster-X]
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By velken: Absolutely agree, pencil 7.5'' barrels are really neat. https://i.ibb.co/yscxYWQ/IMG-5458.jpg So.... where did you get that barrel? Been looking for ever and no bueno. Edit, saw your post from a while ago in another thread. ADCO. Did they have them in stock, or did they do it as a one off? |
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Posted: 1/15/2022 12:46:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RoosterX19: No, that's the LWRC short tube. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RoosterX19: Originally Posted By craig19: Is that a standard carbine size buffer/tube? No, that's the LWRC short tube. Thanks. |
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Posted: 1/15/2022 3:21:42 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NoDakWolfPack: Gross. 
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VA, USA
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Posted: 1/15/2022 3:33:53 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RoosterX19: So.... where did you get that barrel? Been looking for ever and no bueno. Edit, saw your post from a while ago in another thread. ADCO. Did they have them in stock, or did they do it as a one off? Not sure if they still offer it as a shop service, but I had them reprofile the barrel at the gas journal to .625. That's the only way to get a 7.5'' pencil profile barrel as far as I know. |
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Posted: 1/15/2022 11:56:21 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mike_nds: Sweet tea? 🥵 Shouldnt be too hard of a transition for an Edina cake eater;) Congrats and all the best in the next chapter. As a Minnesotan I always appreciated and felt a bit of pride with NoDak stamped on an AR or AK. H&R will be pretty cool too though. |
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Posted: 1/16/2022 5:26:33 AM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlbinoMuskrat: Shouldnt be too hard of a transition for an Edina cake eater;) Congrats and all the best in the next chapter. As a Minnesotan I always appreciated and felt a bit of pride with NoDak stamped on an AR or AK. H&R will be pretty cool too though. Cake eater, lol I was a Lake Street/Powderhorn Park kid. Thanks, it’s been the fulfillment of a lifelong dream to be in firearms manufacturing. And to be in a position such as this , with an organization that is taking over the market is incredible. |
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Posted: 1/16/2022 11:07:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mike_nds: Cake eater, lol I was a Lake Street/Powderhorn Park kid. Thanks, it’s been the fulfillment of a lifelong dream to be in firearms manufacturing. And to be in a position such as this , with an organization that is taking over the market is incredible. Since you're in the head shed, tell the PSA side now we want a .30 Super Carry adapter for our .300 Blackouts, and it needs to take Glock mags.
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PA, USA
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Posted: 1/16/2022 1:57:25 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By backbencher: Since you're in the head shed, tell the PSA side now we want a .30 Super Carry adapter for our .300 Blackouts, and it needs to take Glock mags. .300 blackout is an engineering mistake that tries to solve problems that can already be solved with 7.62x39. Make the adapter for the AR uppers that take choppa boolits and...I guess if Glock 18 mags will work with .30 Super then yeah Glock mags. |
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Posted: 1/16/2022 2:15:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brasscrossedrifles: .300 blackout is an engineering mistake that tries to solve problems that can already be solved with 7.62x39. Make the adapter for the AR uppers that take choppa boolits and...I guess if Glock 18 mags will work with .30 Super then yeah Glock mags. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brasscrossedrifles: Originally Posted By backbencher: Since you're in the head shed, tell the PSA side now we want a .30 Super Carry adapter for our .300 Blackouts, and it needs to take Glock mags. .300 blackout is an engineering mistake that tries to solve problems that can already be solved with 7.62x39. Make the adapter for the AR uppers that take choppa boolits and...I guess if Glock 18 mags will work with .30 Super then yeah Glock mags. It's a joke - .30 SC hasn't even been chambered in a Glock that's made it beyond prototype stage yet. Given the bullet diameter, adapters probably will have to be in 7.62x39mm, so good thing PSA makes AKs. |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 1/16/2022 10:19:42 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gf113: I second this. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gf113: Originally Posted By JoshNC: Outstanding news, congratulations. Please produce the T-223 and T-48. I second this. I thirds this. |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 1/16/2022 10:46:04 PM EDT
[Last Edit: barbcue]
[#43]
If you could please make your uppers and lowers on the "tight fitting" side, so slop is non existent.
Also did H&R make their own stamped HK93 mags for the T 223 rifles back in the day ? 20 rnd and 30 rnd 100% "factory correct" made in the USA stamped HK-93 mags would be awesome.....please look around for that machine ! Thanks !
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IL, USA
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Posted: 1/19/2022 11:03:44 AM EDT
[#44]
So will all further XM16E1 lowers be marked H&R only? Been on the NDS waiting list for awhile now wish I woulda ordered one when I had the chance 😭
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Posted: 1/19/2022 1:24:24 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By waldoman: So will all further XM16E1 lowers be marked H&R only? Been on the NDS waiting list for awhile now wish I woulda ordered one when I had the chance 😭 That's a great question, I'm sure Mike will be along soon to answer. |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 1/19/2022 2:08:26 PM EDT
[#46]
Yes H&R did make a OEM 20rnd mag but also sent to Vietnam used by mostly SEALS with 40rnd mags.
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Posted: 1/19/2022 2:57:43 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By UtahShotgunner: Cant prove, but i am convinced this is left over from H&R bolt rifle(Mauser 98) production. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/119347/20220112_180919_jpg-2238432.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/119347/20220112_180941_jpg-2238433.JPG @mike_nds I'd be interested in seeing a Zastava/H&R partnership for some M98 goodness.... |
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Posted: 1/19/2022 3:09:50 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By waldoman: So will all further XM16E1 lowers be marked H&R only? Been on the NDS waiting list for awhile now wish I woulda ordered one when I had the chance 😭 All the retro at stuff will be branded as H&R |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 1/19/2022 3:30:42 PM EDT
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PA, USA
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Posted: 1/19/2022 3:32:15 PM EDT
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