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Posted: 1/19/2022 4:02:32 PM EDT
[#1]
Now this is sexy.
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OH, USA
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Posted: 1/19/2022 4:11:23 PM EDT
[#2]
I know it's not "retro" retro, but is there a chance we could see midlength A1 style uppers with pencil barrels?
Because that would be pretty cool. |
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USA
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Posted: 1/19/2022 5:24:28 PM EDT
[#3]
Quote HistoryAny idea of when we can buy a complete H&R M16A1? Thanks, 1981 |
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Posted: 1/19/2022 5:40:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 1981: Any idea of when we can buy a complete H&R M16A1? Thanks, 1981 It really depends on parts sourcing. Maybe later in 2022. Not making any promises. |
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USA
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Posted: 1/19/2022 8:06:09 PM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mike_nds: It really depends on parts sourcing. Maybe later in 2022. Not making any promises. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mike_nds: Originally Posted By 1981: Any idea of when we can buy a complete H&R M16A1? Thanks, 1981 It really depends on parts sourcing. Maybe later in 2022. Not making any promises. That’s exciting! Gives me time to save up LOL. Thanks, 1981 |
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USA
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Posted: 1/19/2022 8:07:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1981]
[#6]
Double tap…
Sorry 1981 |
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Posted: 1/19/2022 9:01:49 PM EDT
[#7]
The talk about an XM16E1 got me thinking about chrome bolt carriers, any chance there will be some of those in the future?
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TX, USA
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Posted: 1/20/2022 3:09:52 AM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryNot even rollmarked. Lame. |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 1/20/2022 7:38:08 AM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By collegeboy: Not even rollmarked. Lame. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By collegeboy: Not even rollmarked. Lame. Well, to each their own…. I’m digging them and can’t wait to get my hands on several of them. These receivers will go great with all the other repo parts I have…. To build my repo retro rifles. I understand the purist desires to get as close as possible, but these will be mass produced items verse specialty items. There are other sources for retro receivers with roll markings, but you’re paying a serious premium price for that luxury and a serious wait times on top of that. I have ZERO doubts that these will be top selling items and in great demand, especially for guys like me… I’m more than fine that my retro build will not be exactly like the M16A1 I was issued in the Army back in 1980. Hell, I’m even going to have the Lower and Upper receivers, along with the Barrel assemblies Cerakoted!! If my retro build “looks” like a M16A1, at arms length, I’m good!! Plus, these laser engravings look better than the ones done on the original NDS retro AR receivers, IMHO. Yes, I too would like roll marked over laser engraved receivers, but times are changing in the mass manufacturing field. |
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Posted: 1/20/2022 9:03:03 AM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By collegeboy: Not even rollmarked. Lame. Let's see you resurrect Balimoy and bring rollmarked retro lowers to market then. |
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USA
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Posted: 1/20/2022 1:46:43 PM EDT
[#11]
@mike_nds
Congrats on joining JJE! After watching some of the SHOT Show coverage, I have a quick question; Would I be able to purchase a 10/22 type receiver with the rear sight, one-piece or two-piece and then add a front .920" sight to a third party barrel? If so, when would I be able to do that? Also, would that front sight work on an aluminum or carbon-tension type barrel? My goal is to build a very light-weight Appleseed type rifle for the kids. Thanks |
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Posted: 1/20/2022 3:31:18 PM EDT
[#12]
I’m not sure when we will have the receivers done.
The NDS-26 and NDS-23 will do what you want with a factory Ruger receiver. |
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USA
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Posted: 1/20/2022 6:34:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: mlin]
[#13]
double tap. D
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USA
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Posted: 1/20/2022 6:34:51 PM EDT
[#14]
IDF Mixmaster H&R. I love it!
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Posted: 1/20/2022 7:31:53 PM EDT
[#15]
Love the IDF guns.
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Posted: 1/20/2022 9:34:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mike_nds: H&R 301 in .300 Win built with an FN action I think limited edition runs in 7x57, 257 Roberts, and 6.5x55 would be sweet. Maybe even a 9.3x62. We would make the stock in a more classic style. The Weatherby influence is quite dated. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/91277/H_R_301_a-2215337.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/91277/H_R_301_b-2215338.jpg I'll bite... If you're going down the Mauser road, it could be cool to do a more interesting take on the Ruger Scout. Give it your NDS style sights and some kind of provision for optics mounting that doesn't involve a giant rail, and let it use a standard box mag of some kind. Maybe something that splits the difference between the Ruger GSR and... a FR7/FR8? Could be a fun path to explore. 
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FL, USA
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Posted: 1/21/2022 12:27:30 AM EDT
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Mike - I know you're probably busier than hell right now, but a quick question: do you know offhand if there were any Nodak uppers in the white that didn't sell before the order cutoff date? If so, will those be available to purchase at some point?
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Posted: 1/21/2022 1:12:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Funderbunk: Mike - I know you're probably busier than hell right now, but a quick question: do you know offhand if there were any Nodak uppers in the white that didn't sell before the order cutoff date? If so, will those be available to purchase at some point? There are some, but I’d like to use them as test subjects for our in house anodizing line. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 1/21/2022 3:23:56 AM EDT
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Mike, I listened to the interview at shot and heard you say 20 inch barrels will be 1 in 12 twist. Is there any chance you will do 20 inch 1 in 7 twist? I know 1 in 12 is the correct twist for a clone, but 1 in 7 does offer some more flexibility with heavier bullets.
Thanks |
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Posted: 1/21/2022 8:27:34 AM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mattra: Mike, I listened to the interview at shot and heard you say 20 inch barrels will be 1 in 12 twist. Is there any chance you will do 20 inch 1 in 7 twist? I know 1 in 12 is the correct twist for a clone, but 1 in 7 does offer some more flexibility with heavier bullets. Thanks The stated barrel models will be the initial offerings. We have the ability to do any number of length/twist variations. Just need to be tight and focused at the start. |
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Posted: 1/21/2022 10:21:37 AM EDT
[#21]
Mike,
How many FN Mausers do you need to rebuild/rebrand as H&R?  I have a number of period correct FN actions...... 
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Posted: 1/21/2022 12:02:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By UtahShotgunner: Mike, How many FN Mausers do you need to rebuild/rebrand as H&R? I have a number of period correct FN actions...... Well, all of them of course.😎 |
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IL, USA
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Posted: 1/21/2022 12:25:52 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bergunx: I’m sitting on 10-12 new NoDak AR receivers and once I can get my hands on these new H&R receivers, I’ll be selling those NDS receivers off to fund my purchases of H&R receivers and barrels. PM’d you |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 1/21/2022 9:43:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Funderbunk]
[#24]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mike_nds: There are some, but I’d like to use them as test subjects for our in house anodizing line. Gotcha, I should have been quicker on the order when I had the chance! That said, if you have any 605s that come out a little wonky while you're dialing in the anodizing, I'll gladly buy one as a blem... |
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Posted: 1/21/2022 9:51:13 PM EDT
[#25]
Duly noted
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CO, USA
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Posted: 1/21/2022 11:06:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Geist75]
[#26]
I was living under a rock for the last month, apparently. This was the greatest news I found out while at the shot show yesterday.
ETA: As much as I'm interested in a H&R m16a1, I would pony up for this too. Maybe beat PTR in getting one to the market? Bonus if it takes AR magazines like the Coharie CA53AR. https://www.forgottenweapons.com/hnr-t223-manual/ ETA2 I would also pay for a H&R T48 clone, if you guys want to get in the FAL game. |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 1/22/2022 10:39:02 AM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mike_nds: It really depends on parts sourcing. Maybe later in 2022. Not making any promises. I'm okay with delays. I need time to make all the money I'm going to spend. Just to be clear, I absolutely will buy a 653/723 style carbine and probably an A1 clone. |
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Posted: 1/22/2022 9:11:26 PM EDT
[#28]
Any idea on the MSRP for ths standard M-16 A1 clone?
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Posted: 1/22/2022 9:50:16 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KampusKop: Any idea on the MSRP for ths standard M-16 A1 clone? We haven’t figured out all the costs yet. |
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Posted: 1/22/2022 11:08:26 PM EDT
[#30]
Tagalicous
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VA, USA
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Posted: 1/23/2022 9:51:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 44Echo10]
[#31]
Hmmm.
If I can find a "C7" upper, my current un-built NDS A1 receiver set gets broken up. The NDS lower will become a 723 carbine and the H&R lower will be the A1, win-win! Still have to get JT to mount my FSB's on my 20" pencils. |
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Posted: 1/24/2022 7:31:20 AM EDT
[#32]
I have a feeling that lots of rifles will get rebuilt with H&R lowers.
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Posted: 1/24/2022 7:47:29 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Sputnik556]
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mike_nds: I have a feeling that lots of rifles will get rebuilt with H&R lowers. I know of at least one. Having a spare NDS partial fence lower kind of scares me though.
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Posted: 1/24/2022 2:56:17 PM EDT
[Last Edit: HipSh0T]
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mike_nds: I have a feeling that lots of rifles will get rebuilt with H&R lowers. Have you guys thought of offering the A1 lowers with and without magwell markings, also how will the 601 and XM16E1 lowers get marked? |
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Posted: 1/24/2022 3:03:54 PM EDT
[#35]
We will be marking all the lowers in the standard fashion.
There will be: M16A1 XM16E1 XM177E2 Commando 601 GX-5857 |
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USA
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Posted: 1/24/2022 3:26:41 PM EDT
[#36]
Definitely interested in the GX-5857 marked lower!
Will this be limited or standard release? Is there a full 607 rifle planned? |
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KY, USA
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Posted: 1/24/2022 3:28:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mike_nds: We will be marking all the lowers in the standard fashion. There will be: M16A1 XM16E1 XM177E2 Commando 601 GX-5857 Yes! Looks like I'm swapping out my NDS marked lowers for new hotness M16A1 and XM177e2 |
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Posted: 1/24/2022 4:07:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mike_nds: We will be marking all the lowers in the standard fashion. There will be: M16A1 XM16E1 XM177E2 Commando 601 GX-5857 Thanks Mike, we all appreciate you taking your time to respond to our questions. |
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Posted: 1/24/2022 4:13:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Derinosi: Definitely interested in the GX-5857 marked lower! Will this be limited or standard release? Is there a full 607 rifle planned? I think the best course of action on that one is to do just a stripped lower. Full guns would be too much investment for the number of sales. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 1/24/2022 5:00:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mike_nds: We will be marking all the lowers in the standard fashion. There will be: M16A1 XM16E1 XM177E2 Commando 601 GX-5857 Can we sign up for the combo pack? |
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USA
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Posted: 1/24/2022 5:18:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mike_nds: I think the best course of action on that one is to do just a stripped lower. Thanks! Excited for the lower either way - will be great for my 607 build. |
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Posted: 1/24/2022 5:46:58 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mike_nds: We will be marking all the lowers in the standard fashion. There will be: M16A1 XM16E1 XM177E2 Commando 601 GX-5857 And yes, I have a few NoDaks that will magically turn into H&Rs.
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Posted: 1/24/2022 7:14:20 PM EDT
[#43]
A lower of the month club would be a club to join.
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Posted: 1/24/2022 7:52:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By backbencher: A lower of the month club would be a club to join. Clark, that’s the gift that keeps on giving the whole year. |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 1/24/2022 9:07:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mike_nds: We will be marking all the lowers in the standard fashion. There will be: M16A1 XM16E1 XM177E2 Commando 601 GX-5857 I need these two. Hopefully PSA will offer uppers in a 1/8 or 1/7 twist to match as well. |
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IA, USA
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Posted: 1/25/2022 2:54:59 PM EDT
[#46]
I was content with retro builds I've done with NDS, Brownells, and McKay lowers. They'll stay as-built and I need another 20" rifle like I need a hole in the head. But I'm definitely going to find something to do with an H&R receiver set. For now I'm thinking either a Vietnamese M18 carbine that was posted awhile back, or some sort of IDF build. Also, there's always comments/requests for 1/7 twist barrels. Is there really that many guys wanting to blast 77 grainers through an iron sighted retro gun?
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VA, USA
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Posted: 1/25/2022 7:07:01 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By --FLEET--: I was content with retro builds I've done with NDS, Brownells, and McKay lowers. They'll stay as-built and I need another 20" rifle like I need a hole in the head. But I'm definitely going to find something to do with an H&R receiver set. For now I'm thinking either a Vietnamese M18 carbine that was posted awhile back, or some sort of IDF build. Also, there's always comments/requests for 1/7 twist barrels. Is there really that many guys wanting to blast 77 grainers through an iron sighted retro gun? I want to be able to shoot any available .223 or 5.56 and not worry about keyholes. 
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Posted: 1/25/2022 7:27:31 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mike_nds: We will be marking all the lowers in the standard fashion. There will be: M16A1 XM16E1 XM177E2 Commando 601 GX-5857 Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mike_nds: We will be marking all the lowers in the standard fashion. There will be: M16A1 XM16E1 XM177E2 Commando 601 GX-5857 Originally Posted By backbencher: A lower of the month club would be a club to join. Originally Posted By Sputnik556: Clark, that’s the gift that keeps on giving the whole year. |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 1/26/2022 2:06:14 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Wooster8]
[#49]
Disappointing that JJE doesn't want to continue with 80% lowers. It puts a real kink in completing my 601 build.
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Posted: 1/26/2022 8:18:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Wooster8: Disappointing that JJE doesn't want to continue with 80% lowers. It puts a real kink in completing my 601 build. Ghost Gunner, tweak the code of their new 0% program? |
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