Of all the threads that are tacked, I don't really see any specifically on  AR pistol uppers (barrels less the 16").  So, I thought I'd start one.  The purpose of this thread is to list manufactuers/links that offer pistol uppers and a summery of their products.  The reason I am doing this is, the market is changing, new places offer uppers for AR pistols keep popping up.  I read a thread and saw a company that I did not recoginze, but the description of their product seems interesting.  I figured that listing a bunch of companies in one thread that offer pistol stuff, it would make a Newbie's search easier....

If anyone has a company, please add it.  I'll try to edit my original post so that the information is right on the top posting.  (I might creat a few blanks spots right below this post for future expanision incase the original posting gets filled).


Bohica
5.56 barrel lengths from 6.25" to 8.8".  Offers an unique gas block that allows custom tuning for different loads or use of suppressor.  Also has 50 Beowulf uppers for pistols.
This site also has a chart that shows the different velocities that different barrel lengths have.  To view this chart, click here: Velocity from different barrel lengths  This is from this perticular company's barrel, so other barrels maybe different, but it gives a indication of what to expect (and for those who are curiouse).

Olympic Arms
.223 6.5" self contained upper that does not require a recoil tube.

Model 1 Sales
7.5"-11.5" AR pistol uppers in 223.  A 11.5" 7.62x39 is available.  AR pistol parts also (barrels alone)

Gunsmoke Enterprises
8" barreled upper.  Barrel only available.
*Questionable dealings- buyer beware (added 5/27/2006)

CMMG, Inc.
Sells DPMS* Kitty Kat uppers (7.5").  Also available 10.3" & 11.5".  Used Colt uppers. (sells on site)
*=purchasing the DPMS Kitty Kat upper directly from DPMS is said not to be possible due to "PC" issues.

R Guns (fixed 1.8.2006)
DPMS 7.5" Kitty Kat upper.

MSTN (Mid State Tactical Network)
7.5" upper.  10.5" & 14.5" available (sells on site)

Rock River Arms (RRA)
Direct Link to Pistol section
RRA started to offer complet AR pistols and parts.  Above link is to the main page, while the second goes to the pistol section.  (added 2/20/2006)

Spikes Tactical AR pistol uppers, sidecharging 9mm uppers, also sells other uppers for .223 pistol, handgun pistol upper (6/10/06)

Custom barrels.  Below are some places that have stated they make AR pistol barrels, for you who want a "custom" project.  (Please, if I didn't list a company that does this line, it was not intentional... the list is constantly changing & I don't know ALL of them out there...only what I read and have experiance w/).



Teppo Justsu
(Do I really need to say something about Marty's company?  Oh wait, this is for Newbies....)  Has made vaiouse AR related products.  Working on a 7.62x25 cal AR upper (both pistol length and carbine).



Note: Pistol caliber uppers.  I know of one or posters that have stated they make a 9mm upper for pistols.  Other places that cut barrels down for 9mm AR pistols.  I'll have to dig up the posts and look for links.  I didn't forget those....

(More links/business will be added.... )

 

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ETA: DPMS Kitty Kat

CMMG

CMMG also sells a 10.3" and 11.5" upper that they build... and they have Colt used and refurb 11.5" uppers.

The Kitty Kat is built by DPMS I believe..

DPMS has the Kitty Kat.

Sabre sells uppers in 10.5 and 11.5" if memory serves.  I got my 11.5" there.

"R" Guns sells the Kitty Kat upper as well, I think his DPMS prices are very good.

The R guns link does not work.

rguns does not have the best rep or customer service

Originally Posted By killingmachine123: The R guns link does not work.

Fixed.

Originally Posted By eklikwhoa: rguns does not have the best rep or customer service

No idea... never delt w/ them.

Originally Posted By Kaliburz: Originally Posted By killingmachine123: The R guns link does not work. Fixed. Originally Posted By eklikwhoa: rguns does not have the best rep or customer service No idea... never delt w/ them.

might as well buy from joken

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I was wondering about Spike's Tactical? There is another thread about their pistol upper that is side charging.

RRA now has uppers and complete pistols, both 5.56 and 9mm!

Bushmaster sells an 11.5" upper and barrels. I'm happy with mine.

Anyone have a pistol build using the Eagle Firearms 11.5" LW upper? Any issues with quality/functioning?

Should Gunsmoke Enterprises be included in this list of manufacturers/dealers?  I found them through this thread, placed an order and later learned they have a horrible reputation.  Unfortunately I ended up being burned by them too,  I was sold a fake Vortex Flash Hider.  

Buyer beware!

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just got my AR pistol stuff thru Spikes Tactical, he does have AR pistol uppers, sidecharging 9mm uppers, from what i remember, jarvis machine upper/barrel with a 4 rail freefloat guard with a threaded barrel front with fake can attachment, want to say in the 550-600 range for complete upper, also sells other uppers for .223 pistol, handgun pistol upper and hangun rifle uppers

[email protected]
407.928.2666
www.spikestactical.com

website still being worked on, but call him for pricing and ordering, the owner is named mike, great guy, soon to be getting my 4th AR from him and other people on this board have dealt with him

Originally Posted By lumberjacker: RRA now has uppers and complete pistols, both 5.56 and 9mm!

Wasn't there a vendor in the EE that had them for sale?
I can't seem to find them.

ok, I have heard really bad things about gunsmoke Ent.   but I finally tried out my pistol buffer that he sent VERY fast and answered email questions VERY fast and it worked great.   Just thought I would throw my 2 cents in.
I'm happy and would buy from him again.

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Can we please post some links to threads and web pages w/ info on barrel lengths and muzzle velocities for different rounds to aid the arfcommer who is wanting to make a pistol for a certian purpose?

Of particular concern to many is what barrel length is required to ensure fragmentatnio w/ different cartridges.

I am having a hard time finding info on the performance of rounds such as the TAP out of sub 14.5" barrels.

Here are a couple links for military cartridges out of 10" and greater barrels:

#1

#2

#3

Notice they don't seem to give all the exact same data

M&A Parts Inc.

7" Kit (Complete -/Lower receiver)
Forged Flattop Upper
Aluminum Freefloat Tube
Pistol Buffer
Heavy 1:9 Chrome-Moly Barrel
A2 Hider
Picatinny Gas Block front sight base

Originally Posted By Kaliburz: <center><table width=85% border=0><tr><td width=100% class=textQuote><hr height=1px color=black noshade>Originally Posted By killingmachine123: The R guns link does not work.<hr height=1px color=black noshade> Fixed. <center><table width=85% border=0><tr><td width=100% class=textQuote><hr height=1px color=black noshade>Originally Posted By eklikwhoa: rguns does not have the best rep or customer service <hr height=1px color=black noshade> No idea... never delt w/ them.

There are 2 entities called RGuns. The one in IL who sends out the fold-out flyer/advertisement I have dealt with and had great service from.

Is M16.pigtails.com still in Business, their web site and phone# 505.757.3303 doesn't work>>>
JR

The reason manufacturers are offering 7" barrels is that a carbine barrel can be converted, losing the existing gas port in the process. My 7 1/2 incher from a 20":

Thx!

Originally Posted By mob: just got my AR pistol stuff thru Spikes Tactical, he does have AR pistol uppers, sidecharging 9mm uppers, from what i remember, jarvis machine upper/barrel with a 4 rail freefloat guard with a threaded barrel front with fake can attachment, want to say in the 550-600 range for complete upper, also sells other uppers for .223 pistol, handgun pistol upper and hangun rifle uppers [email protected] 407.928.2666 www.spikestactical.com website still being worked on, but call him for pricing and ordering, the owner is named mike, great guy, soon to be getting my 4th AR from him and other people on this board have dealt with him

+1 for Spike's Tactical

I linked to the J&T add above but it had limited information on their product line.  My new pistol has a Star-15 5.56 lower with the J&T 10.5" crome lined A3 upper and ACE tube.   The reason for shareing this pdf file is simple, I had a hard time finding this info and though you may find it informative if you are contemplating any type of build including AR or M60,  boy when I saw that it brought back memories of being on a gunboat over in Viet Nam.  Hope this is helpful, I saved the whole catalog onto my hard drive.


http://jtdistributing.com/pdf/cat06.pdf

Originally Posted By KurtsKustom: The reason manufacturers are offering 7" barrels is that a carbine barrel can be converted, losing the existing gas port in the process. My 7 1/2 incher from a 20": kurtskustomfirearms.citymax.com/i/section_10960/DEAPistol2.jpg Thx!

I thought ATF has said no forward grips on pistols?

Ko-tonics / Cardinal Armory





www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=2&f=234&t=157179





I wanted a short-barreled pistol upper, but I didn't want it in 5.56 (link to original thread).  Then Tim answers my prayers and tells the world about his soon-to-be-released 12.5" upper in 6.8 SPC.







There will also be an 8.5" barreled upper in 6.8 for those of you who like 'em even shorter.





www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=2&f=234&t=159657





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Alexander Arms





www.alexanderarms.com/siteshopper.htm?cat=15&item=91





6.5 Grendel 10.5" SBR upper





(member "Grendelizor" was the one who let me know about this upper in my original "Variant Calibers For Home Defense..... Out Of Short Barrels?" thread)
[edited 05/21/2009 to reflect Cardinal Armory going out of business last year]




 

Please remove www.ar15barrels.com (Randall Rausch) from the links in the first post.  His website is not up, and he has a bad reputation - never delivers custom barrels.  Some people still have small jobs done by him, but he's completely defaulted on many custom barrel jobs.

Being a NEWBIE to the ARpistol -  what exactly does that mean ?  About the shorter barrels being modified ?
Also, who does have the most reasonable kits available ?  Thanks

U FORGOT P.O.F. SWEETEST UPPERS YET!

and a link?  

I see M1 sales says pistols only on the barrels...what if you want to turn it into a form 1 legal SBR later.Are the barrels marked as pistol? Are RRA uppers marked as pistol?
I don't want a upper or barrel marked as pistol if i can't do form 1 SBR at a later time.

Link to POF:

http://www.pof-usa.com/upper/upperreceiver.htm

LWRCI

http://www.lwrci.com/c-11-complete-uppers.aspx

I built a gunsmoke kit on an EA lower with good customer service and no issues with the weapon.

Anyone know some good sources for short-barrelled uppers in variant calibers?



Tim Hicks (Cardinal Armory) used to be a good source for short-barrelled uppers in 6.8SPC, but he's been out of business for a while now...

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Need to clean up the links.

And if you havent heard, Kurt died.  Great man, did great work and his absence is a great loss to the community.

IIRC J&T makes some great low-prices units

i was looking at a J&T 7.5" pistol kit. what twist rate are their barrels? I'm looking for a 7.5" with a 1x7 twist. i can build one, but if i can buy a kit cheaper then i will go that route.

Rainier Arms, LLC

Very nice pistol upper:

Rainier Arms UltraMatch Upper - Pistol 7.5"

black hole weaponry makes pistol barrels in different lengths:  www.blackholeweaponry.com

http://cardinalarmory.com/

Noveske with their Diplomat offerings in 5.56 and 6.8 SPC