I've done trigger lightening jobs on several AR's.  Trust me when I say there is no way to run an extra heavy hammer spring with a milspec geometry trigger / hammer and get it down to a 5lb pull.  You're leading people to a disappointment if you say a hammer spring capable of reliably igniting 7N6 primers will only add a half pound or so to the trigger pull. Expect a 10+ lb pull with such a hammer spring.

Just got an email notification that the BFS3 is shipping, hopefully I'm not too far down the line.

No notification here and I ordered on day one.  

They post up to the minute news on their FB page. Not here.
I have to admire them for their truthfulness and openness. Just follow their FB page for THE most current news. But, yes, FA just made their commitment to ship Gen 3 by the END of August. They did exactly that in spite of:

1) Issues with the change in metals (music wire to SS) that made their free included spring rates too low. Had to re do the SS versions so they were the CORRECT strength.
2) UPS truck broke down on exact shipment day. They sent another truck evidently.

It is all there..blow by blow:
https://www.facebook.com/franklin.armory

I didn't receive MY shipping notification, it was a buy now, they're officially shipping notification.

Eta:  I ordered about a month behind you I think.

It's why I have a gen 2 and ordered a 3. No Echo yet but probably several more 3's.

 
I've been dealing with Franklin since about 2014 when they released the F-17L in .17WSM at SHOT, and they are awesome people.




Honest, upfront, and very helpful. It's been a true pleasure for me, and I look forward to their continued success.




Here's hoping I get my hands on a full production Gen3 soon. Although, I better order some more ammo before the panic buying starts.










 

This is a long shot, but is there a trade in program? haha

I have a few Gen2s might swap out for Gen3s

 
Just got my shipping notice. Thanks

Very nice!  Can't wait to see these in action, hopefully mine isn't too far behind.

Franklin posted an awesome promo video yesterday:




Mine should ship today or early next week. I can't wait to get it!

nice



 

Oh boy, oh boy!!

Well....?  


...We're waiting...

 
Busy day at work for me, but I'm hoping to get it installed by tonight. I have a club meeting to go to tonight at the range, so I might be able to get some trigger time if all works out. We shall see.

Awesome, can't wait to see what you get out of this production unit.

 
Sneak peek:











 

does it come with the buffer spring?

 
Yes.


They are including an extra power carbine buffer spring, as well as two sets of hammer & trigger springs.

 
Mine arrived.  I started reading the install directions and decided to put it away for tonight.  This weekend is the soonest i will have time to test it out if i have time.  Reading the instructions made my head hurt.  

Really? That bad? Why so?
Any chance you can take a series of photos of the instructions to upload here?
Or you can scan them and covert to a .pdf file. My $80 printer does a brilliant job of doing just that. I can save my scans as a .jpg OR a .pdf file.
Lacking a printer that does that,  a simple photo(s) would be awesome. If you would, please.

The BFSiii manual and installation instructions are very detailed, which might make some people's heads hurt.


While I totally understand that, I personally would much rather have a very thorough set of instructions, as apposed to a cursory set.




If I can remember to do it, I'll scan mine and create a .PDF.






 

I will scan them tomorrow. It is probably a simple install, but they are detailed, the photos are tiny, and I was not in the mood.  My guess is that the instructions make it appear more complicated than it actually is.  

 

As Promised, here is the scanned copies of the manuals.  There are actually two manuals. The Franklin Armory Binary Firing System III Installation Manual  and the Franklin Armory BFSiii Manual Patent Pending

 
Thanks!








 

 
LOL!


I plan on filming my install, which I hope will help many see that it's not hard at all; just mind that IDS spring, and you're golden.

Installation video recorded.

Will hopefully have it live tomorrow.

looking forward to this



but i'm really looking forward to some more video's of the gen 3 in action



 

That's great it comes with a carbine spring, but what if you're running it rifle length?

Many thanks to onealphay2k for the scans and to FA for their link.

So, if the slave pin doesn't fall out and the sub assembly arrives intact...then the installation appears to be  very straight forward.

Three questions:

1) What is the point of going in with the two trigger pins from opposite sides of the receiver? Will it harm anything to install them both coning in from the left side like I am used to doing?

2) Is there anything special about the supplied safety detent and spring? Why supply them? Just in case we loose ours? That is thoughtful, if that is the case.

3) I wish you guys had done a short throw safety....45 degrees would be semi auto and 90 degrees would be binary. Could I have a custom drum milled (by Adco or someone..) that would accomplish this?

That YOU for your kind reply! :)
MY bad on my lazy speed reading of the safety selector portion of your great instructions. It clearly states "CUSTOMER" supplied spring and detent. I am chagrined to have missed that.

GREAT news on the short throw! I have several solutions in mind for modifying  your curved trigger to flat trigger (to fit my XL hand and fingers). So,your reply concerning the STS possibilities is fabulous news to me. You sos, once a shooter like me gets used to an STS and/or a flat bow trigger, we dont want anything else. I would do anything that it would take to have these features with your new BFS. I see this is fast becoming a reality. This is unbelievably fantastic news to me.

As for making custom short throw safety BINARY markings we have laser engraving or better yet, a bright, shiny, short throw safety (STS)  DECAL from Franklin Arms!

It is always the lawyers, isnt it? For a long time, even manufacturer of conventional short throw safetys (STS) have been concerned about stupid people doing stupid things and then trying to get money for making a stupid mistake. "Merica!  But finally other companies are coming out with safeties  that do NOT require the "lawyers tit" that is on the barrel all BadAss STS models. They are leaving it up to the owner to do the proper and safe thing.

I understand that Franklin Arms is just waiting for the first person to have a negligent discharge on the release of a trigger pull in the Binary mode. This is sad, because IMO it is 100% on the shooter to either KNOW his trigger and gun and ALSO keep his gun in 100% control at ALL times. That means NOBODY EVER picks up your gun with out permission and instructions and fires your gun. I notice that FA makes it MANDATORY for any Pro Armorer to apply this decal. This is as it should be.

I just wonder if at SOME time you might consider selling a package consisting of a STS milled safety barrel and a new sticker. With all sorts of waivers and signatures required to purchase it so you guys and your lawyers feel protected.

I dont want this to be a topic of discussion because it MAY veer OFF topic and a mod will shut this thread down. Mods, I only mention the STS as a POSSIBILITY for the new BFS trigger. I was only offering up ways that would allow this concept to be legally feasible since FA states that is mechanically possible, BUT like any responsible company does not want endanger their shooters or anyone around them.

Mods, again I beg you not to shut down this thread over my post. Legalities surrounding this trigger is real  "on topic" talking point. I prefer most people (and FA) simply think  about what I said rather than reply since I am deathly afraid to have this thread shut down because of me. It is the best thread I have ever followed on AR15.com.

ALL you members have made amazing contributions and insights concerning this ground breaking new product from Franklin Arms. I think their is more to be said still. Thanks to all you guys for helping make this the best thread ever!

 
Awesome, thanks guys!






My install video is rendering now, and then I'll start the upload. It's long, as I wanted to cover every step in detail for everyone. Once it's live, I'll be sure to drop a link here.






A couple notes:










 

perhaps this has been addressed elsewhere, but does Franklin Armory have any plans for releasing a binary trigger for alternate platforms?


I really want one for my Bulgy AKM.

why not do the AK  first? Seems like more have a AK then an HK

yeah, i am sure right after their echo ar15 trigger comes out... which i am sure will be any day now...

not the answer i was hoping for, but thanks for the clarification though.

As promised, here is my BFSiii install video:

Right after they get their sear trip approved by the ATF. That doesn't seem to be going to well. Does it?
You guys are the only ones who meet deadlines!

Outstanding and thanks for posting it up!