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Posted: 12/21/2015 7:29:43 PM EDT
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Gent's,
Thinking about adding my 1st piston AR to the stable. Looking for feedback either positive and/or negative as the price of admission is 2k+. Thanks! |
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Appreciate all the feedback boys...I'll keep this thread updated. Decisions, decisions, I think I'm going with an IC-SPR but, do I want a 14.7" w/permanent attached flash hider or, do I go with a standard 16.1" barrel. What is your primary use for this rifle? If it's mostly target shooting then the 16.1", if it's something you'll be hauling around, HD or SHTF, the 14.7" would be better. It's all a matter of personal preference. My M6IC is a 14.7", UCIW is a 8.5" & the REPR is a 14.7". |
| I've shot most of the various piston operated AR's on the market and LWRC is definitely one of the top out there. I own two LWRC's as well as a LMT MRP Piston and I haven't had a single malfunction to date with either of them. I'd guess I have about 12K rounds collectively through all of them. Just a small sample size but, having owned more than two dozen AR's, I have to spread the love... |
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The epic Henderson Defense thread specifically points out none of the piston AR's hold up except for the HK 416 and one of it's clones(don't remember which company). That contradicts every claim LWRC makes about their rifles being superior to DI guns, and at 2-3 times the price of a decent DI AR.
I did own one of their uppers, don't remember which one. It was heavy, recoiled more than a DI AR, and had a proprietary rail system. Sold it after a couple range trips, took a bath on it. |
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The epic Henderson Defense thread specifically points out none of the piston AR's hold up except for the HK 416 and one of it's clones(don't remember which company). That contradicts every claim LWRC makes about their rifles being superior to DI guns, and at 2-3 times the price of a decent DI AR. I did own one of their uppers, don't remember which one. It was heavy, recoiled more than a DI AR, and had a proprietary rail system. Sold it after a couple range trips, took a bath on it. IIRC he said no piston guns that they tried with the exception of the HK. I'm not discounting what you're saying but I would like to hear some manufacturers named. I do understand, however, that that's not in his best interest to disclose that information. If I'm mis-remembering please point me to the page, I'd like to know if they tried LWRC. ETA: I've actually been very interested in exactly this ever since that post, I just absolutely did not want to get that shitstorm started in such an epically awesome thread. |
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IIRC he said no piston guns that they tried with the exception of the HK. I'm not discounting what you're saying but I would like to hear some manufacturers named. I do understand, however, that that's not in his best interest to disclose that information. If I'm mis-remembering please point me to the page, I'd like to know if they tried LWRC. ETA: I've actually been very interested in exactly this ever since that post, I just absolutely did not want to get that shitstorm started in such an epically awesome thread. Quoted:
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The epic Henderson Defense thread specifically points out none of the piston AR's hold up except for the HK 416 and one of it's clones(don't remember which company). That contradicts every claim LWRC makes about their rifles being superior to DI guns, and at 2-3 times the price of a decent DI AR. I did own one of their uppers, don't remember which one. It was heavy, recoiled more than a DI AR, and had a proprietary rail system. Sold it after a couple range trips, took a bath on it. IIRC he said no piston guns that they tried with the exception of the HK. I'm not discounting what you're saying but I would like to hear some manufacturers named. I do understand, however, that that's not in his best interest to disclose that information. If I'm mis-remembering please point me to the page, I'd like to know if they tried LWRC. ETA: I've actually been very interested in exactly this ever since that post, I just absolutely did not want to get that shitstorm started in such an epically awesome thread. Several years ago at SHOT, LWRC introduced regular Stoner gas system AR15's. I just saw an ad in American Rifleman from Barrett for a "Rec7 DI". |
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Quoted: Several years ago at SHOT, LWRC introduced regular Stoner gas system AR15's. I just saw an ad in American Rifleman from Barrett for a "Rec7 DI". Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: The epic Henderson Defense thread specifically points out none of the piston AR's hold up except for the HK 416 and one of it's clones(don't remember which company). That contradicts every claim LWRC makes about their rifles being superior to DI guns, and at 2-3 times the price of a decent DI AR. I did own one of their uppers, don't remember which one. It was heavy, recoiled more than a DI AR, and had a proprietary rail system. Sold it after a couple range trips, took a bath on it. IIRC he said no piston guns that they tried with the exception of the HK. I'm not discounting what you're saying but I would like to hear some manufacturers named. I do understand, however, that that's not in his best interest to disclose that information. If I'm mis-remembering please point me to the page, I'd like to know if they tried LWRC. ETA: I've actually been very interested in exactly this ever since that post, I just absolutely did not want to get that shitstorm started in such an epically awesome thread. Several years ago at SHOT, LWRC introduced regular Stoner gas system AR15's. I just saw an ad in American Rifleman from Barrett for a "Rec7 DI". Not sure what this adds to the question(s) of what specific claims were made, what specific tests were done, what specific companies conducted the test(s), where is the documentation, etc, etc Here is the bottom line - IF Company X makes a claim and its competitor can actually prove that company X is full of shit - the competitor would PUBLISH THE SHIT OUT OF THE FINDINGS - its called business and market share. So unless a company is willing to publicly, shows the tests they performed, have results that are repeatable and have the data available for review by everyone - Then what you have are opinions, rumors and internet experts Someone please insert the pic of that ancient aliens guy ---> HERE |
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Not sure what this adds to the question(s) of what specific claims were made, what specific tests were done, what specific companies conducted the test(s), where is the documentation, etc, etc Here is the bottom line - IF Company X makes a claim and its competitor can actually prove that company X is full of shit - the competitor would PUBLISH THE SHIT OUT OF THE FINDINGS - its called business and market share. So unless a company is willing to publicly, shows the tests they performed, have results that are repeatable and have the data available for review by everyone - Then what you have are opinions, rumors and internet experts Someone please insert the pic of that ancient aliens guy ---> HERE Quoted:
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The epic Henderson Defense thread specifically points out none of the piston AR's hold up except for the HK 416 and one of it's clones(don't remember which company). That contradicts every claim LWRC makes about their rifles being superior to DI guns, and at 2-3 times the price of a decent DI AR. I did own one of their uppers, don't remember which one. It was heavy, recoiled more than a DI AR, and had a proprietary rail system. Sold it after a couple range trips, took a bath on it. IIRC he said no piston guns that they tried with the exception of the HK. I'm not discounting what you're saying but I would like to hear some manufacturers named. I do understand, however, that that's not in his best interest to disclose that information. If I'm mis-remembering please point me to the page, I'd like to know if they tried LWRC. ETA: I've actually been very interested in exactly this ever since that post, I just absolutely did not want to get that shitstorm started in such an epically awesome thread. Several years ago at SHOT, LWRC introduced regular Stoner gas system AR15's. I just saw an ad in American Rifleman from Barrett for a "Rec7 DI". Not sure what this adds to the question(s) of what specific claims were made, what specific tests were done, what specific companies conducted the test(s), where is the documentation, etc, etc Here is the bottom line - IF Company X makes a claim and its competitor can actually prove that company X is full of shit - the competitor would PUBLISH THE SHIT OUT OF THE FINDINGS - its called business and market share. So unless a company is willing to publicly, shows the tests they performed, have results that are repeatable and have the data available for review by everyone - Then what you have are opinions, rumors and internet experts Someone please insert the pic of that ancient aliens guy ---> HERE It was a machine gun rental range, he seemed hesitant to say anything negative about particular manufacturers. I actually own and love three LWRC's, also, their customer service is excellent. They even made my newborn daughter a couple onesies. Great buy OP, you're going to love the shit out of that rifle. |
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