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11/28/2013 4:36:52 PM EDT
Brand new to the site and already my second post in a day.

I've always been a stalker to the forums, but I figured it's time to pop my head up. ANYWAYS!

I've been looking to get a new middy ar and have narrowed it down to these. DTI Evo vs BCM Mid-16 Mod 0

Del-Ton Evolution. Site says it's mil-spec, has a good number of extras (Samson rail looks pretty awesome). and a price point of 1100. Any thoughts? I've also got my eye on a BCM Mod 0 mid-16.

What's so much better about the BCM opposed to the DTI Evo if both are mil-spec? Has anyone had any experience with the DTI evo?

PS. will be used for HD, recreational, and also planning on taking a vacation to an instructor lead rifle/pistol course this summer in Colorado.
11/28/2013 4:48:50 PM EDT
[#1]
I know three people who had Del-Tons with had being the operative word. They all got rid of them in less than six months and went with other brands. The parts on a Del-Ton may be mil spec but the workmanship, at least on the three examples that I'm familiar with, is sub par. On two of them, the staking on the castle nut was done by alcoholic monkeys and it was nonexistant on the third. The gas key staking on all three was pretty shoddy and one of the screws actually started backing out on one. Save yourself some headaches and go with the BCM. I have a Mid-16 Mod 0 and have had zero issues through about 2,000 rounds.
11/28/2013 5:03:06 PM EDT
[#2]
I was afraid of that

I've heard BCM is lacking in the customer service department though? have you ever even needed them with your middy?
11/28/2013 5:24:23 PM EDT
[#3]
I have no experience with BCM's customer service, my rifle has been flawless and I haven't needed it. Also, I have no idea about Del-Ton's customer service because the problems that my friends had weren't big enough to warrant contacting them. It was just a culmination of a lot of little, agravating problems that led them to get rid of them.
11/28/2013 5:58:32 PM EDT
[#4]

I have no experience with Del-Ton complete rifles, but I have two of their lowers, and they are GTG.

Ironically Both lowers have BCM uppers.

That rifle has a hefty price tag attached.  I don't know, but I hear that Colts are selling for less, and if I were to make that choice....guess which one I'd choose.

11/28/2013 6:27:48 PM EDT
[#5]
Yeah, probably just going with BCM.

Did you build both lowers from a kit, or were they complete? Is it pretty difficult to build one from a kit? Sorry, kind of a noob when it comes to projects like this as I've always just bought and added.

When shopping around, if I built the same complete rifle with a complete lower and a BCM upper the price ends up exceeding the price of the complete rifle. But I've seen those DTI lower kits for pretty cheap and would end up saving me some money, but I've never built a lower before.
11/29/2013 3:47:30 PM EDT
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Yeah, probably just going with BCM.

Did you build both lowers from a kit, or were they complete? Is it pretty difficult to build one from a kit? Sorry, kind of a noob when it comes to projects like this as I've always just bought and added.

When shopping around, if I built the same complete rifle with a complete lower and a BCM upper the price ends up exceeding the price of the complete rifle. But I've seen those DTI lower kits for pretty cheap and would end up saving me some money, but I've never built a lower before.
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I built my lowers.  I bought the lowers at a gun show, the MOE lower build kits from Palmetto State Armory.  A build kits includes all the parts, including stock need to assemble a lower.

No, it's not difficult to build a lower, but it does require a few tools to do it right.

Here's a link on how to build.  Read the stickies, there is a wealth of info.

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