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Thanks, I'm pretty happy with the set-up, though I sometimes wish I had gone with an A1 upper instead of a FT. I don't think it would have made much of a difference in weight, just would have been a bit more KISS.
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Originally Posted By jaqufrost:
Here is my retro-ish Dissy LW build from a M16A1 parts kit. Unfortunately I don't have a scale to measure its weight. I'm hoping to get my next LW build under 4lb. I've got most the parts at my Smith's place where he's milling all the extra weight off. So far I'm planning on a 11.5" barrel with an aluminum flash hider, the gas port will be undersized for the reduced weight bcg/buffer. I'll probably use the 6oz Clarke Carbon Fiber float tube cut back to 6", buttstock is a LE entry stock tube with an A2 plate attached to the end. Sights will be a Burris Fastfire. Hopefully I'll be able to make my weight. <4lb ?? that would be impressive.. |
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Originally Posted By statuskuo:
Originally Posted By jaqufrost:
Here is my retro-ish Dissy LW build from a M16A1 parts kit. Unfortunately I don't have a scale to measure its weight. I'm hoping to get my next LW build under 4lb. I've got most the parts at my Smith's place where he's milling all the extra weight off. So far I'm planning on a 11.5" barrel with an aluminum flash hider, the gas port will be undersized for the reduced weight bcg/buffer. I'll probably use the 6oz Clarke Carbon Fiber float tube cut back to 6", buttstock is a LE entry stock tube with an A2 plate attached to the end. Sights will be a Burris Fastfire. Hopefully I'll be able to make my weight. <4lb ?? that would be impressive.. I think under 4lbs is unheard of so far, I could be wrong but I havent seen it yet myself! good luck to the builder!! ALOT of custom crazy work is involved to do a build like that. |
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Originally Posted By ARonly:
Originally Posted By statuskuo:
Originally Posted By jaqufrost:
Here is my retro-ish Dissy LW build from a M16A1 parts kit. Unfortunately I don't have a scale to measure its weight. I'm hoping to get my next LW build under 4lb. I've got most the parts at my Smith's place where he's milling all the extra weight off. So far I'm planning on a 11.5" barrel with an aluminum flash hider, the gas port will be undersized for the reduced weight bcg/buffer. I'll probably use the 6oz Clarke Carbon Fiber float tube cut back to 6", buttstock is a LE entry stock tube with an A2 plate attached to the end. Sights will be a Burris Fastfire. Hopefully I'll be able to make my weight. <4lb ?? that would be impressive.. I think under 4lbs is unheard of so far, I could be wrong but I havent seen it yet myself! good luck to the builder!! ALOT of custom crazy work is involved to do a build like that. Without the optic mine weighs in under 4 lbs. With a Leupold Delta Point, it's 4 lbs even. It's fairly useless without the optic though, no iron sights. I could easily shave off a few more ounces, but I think I'll save that for my next lightweight build. |
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Originally Posted By JoshAston: This is a picture thread - you cant go telling us about your super light rifle without letting us see the pics!!!Originally Posted By ARonly: Originally Posted By statuskuo: Originally Posted By jaqufrost: Here is my retro-ish Dissy LW build from a M16A1 parts kit. Unfortunately I don't have a scale to measure its weight. I'm hoping to get my next LW build under 4lb. I've got most the parts at my Smith's place where he's milling all the extra weight off. So far I'm planning on a 11.5" barrel with an aluminum flash hider, the gas port will be undersized for the reduced weight bcg/buffer. I'll probably use the 6oz Clarke Carbon Fiber float tube cut back to 6", buttstock is a LE entry stock tube with an A2 plate attached to the end. Sights will be a Burris Fastfire. Hopefully I'll be able to make my weight. <4lb ?? that would be impressive.. I think under 4lbs is unheard of so far, I could be wrong but I havent seen it yet myself! good luck to the builder!! ALOT of custom crazy work is involved to do a build like that. Without the optic mine weighs in under 4 lbs. With a Leupold Delta Point, it's 4 lbs even. It's fairly useless without the optic though, no iron sights. I could easily shave off a few more ounces, but I think I'll save that for my next lightweight build. |
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very nicely done, how long is the barrel? 11.5"
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Originally Posted By jaqufrost:
very nicely done, how long is the barrel? 11.5" Yes. |
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Originally Posted By Stickman:
http://stickman.rainierarms.com/galleries/Magpul%206/STKL1676-1024-Stick.jpg Question: Is there a trick to deploying the rear sight without having the rear aimpoint flip cap swing up and cover the fov? never seen that kind of setup before. thanks. |
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Originally Posted By bb2007:
Originally Posted By Stickman:
http://stickman.rainierarms.com/galleries/Magpul%206/STKL1676-1024-Stick.jpg Question: Is there a trick to deploying the rear sight without having the rear aimpoint flip cap swing up and cover the fov? never seen that kind of setup before. thanks. Looks to me like the cover isn't actually in the way of the hinge itself, just covers the front portion of the sight, not the part that flips up. |
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Originally Posted By JoshAston:
Originally Posted By ARonly:
Originally Posted By statuskuo:
Originally Posted By jaqufrost:
Here is my retro-ish Dissy LW build from a M16A1 parts kit. Unfortunately I don't have a scale to measure its weight. I'm hoping to get my next LW build under 4lb. I've got most the parts at my Smith's place where he's milling all the extra weight off. So far I'm planning on a 11.5" barrel with an aluminum flash hider, the gas port will be undersized for the reduced weight bcg/buffer. I'll probably use the 6oz Clarke Carbon Fiber float tube cut back to 6", buttstock is a LE entry stock tube with an A2 plate attached to the end. Sights will be a Burris Fastfire. Hopefully I'll be able to make my weight. <4lb ?? that would be impressive.. I think under 4lbs is unheard of so far, I could be wrong but I havent seen it yet myself! good luck to the builder!! ALOT of custom crazy work is involved to do a build like that. Without the optic mine weighs in under 4 lbs. With a Leupold Delta Point, it's 4 lbs even. It's fairly useless without the optic though, no iron sights. I could easily shave off a few more ounces, but I think I'll save that for my next lightweight build. i stand corrected kinda because we both do not have BUIS, so.... my gun weighs in at 5lbs 4ozs with a 7.5oz Eotech. If i drop that Eotech and add a front rail, front MBUS & rear MBUS do you think id be under 5lbs? i do not know until i do it i guess. same way with yours if you add up BUIS systems do you think youd be over the weight youre already at? btw this has nothing to do with "my gun is better than yours" AT ALL in fact all your posts helped me with my build. |
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Originally Posted By ARonly:
i stand corrected kinda because we both do not have BUIS, so.... my gun weighs in at 5lbs 4ozs with a 7.5oz Eotech. If i drop that Eotech and add a front rail, front MBUS & rear MBUS do you think id be under 5lbs? i do not know until i do it i guess. same way with yours if you add up BUIS systems do you think youd be over the weight youre already at? btw this has nothing to do with "my gun is better than yours" AT ALL in fact all your posts helped me with my build. [/div] The MBUS set only weighs a couple ounces, but I'm not sure how much the rail would weigh. The DeltaPoint with mount comes in right at 2 ounces. Mounting a rail and iron sights would definitely put mine over the current weight. I had to use a lot of non-standard parts to get that light, but I'm hoping to get the next one down to 3.5 lbs. |
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Originally Posted By ThatGuy91K:
Originally Posted By Scotter260:
Top: -6520 lower with DD 14.5" lightweight/pinned BC 1.5 -Colt "N" CAR stock -A1 grip -pretty much gutted M4 handguards -UWL -Colt sling -TLR-1 on a Streamlight mount http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-10/1100114/Anicepair1.JPG I really like that top carbine. I'm going to build another LW midlength since I've got a spare set of coyote brown midlength handguards laying around that are going to sprout into another rifle. After that I'm going to build a couple of LW carbines and I think I'm gonna copy that top one. That looks like a handy little gun. Top: 14.5 CMMG light weight with perm'd phantom Armalite lower MOE furniture GG&G single point sling Readi-Mag Surefire G2 LED conversion with VLTOR off-set mount Matech BUIS http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/kendall1911/guns/DSC00212.jpg Bottom: Kiss 14.5 BCM Lightweight with perm'd A2X Rock River lower Cav Arms handguards More pics of the bottom one please. ETA I cleaned up your images the best I could with only a few minutes. http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5307/5761653830_c9c1ea4812_z.jpg http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3064/5762977673_a6ab69d2f2_z.jpg . Sure, I tried to clean it up a little in photobucket. And here it is wearing FDE furniture. I bought this extra set from Cav Arms and I'm going to build another LW midlength for it to go on. |
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Originally Posted By blackfly53:
My attempt at a lightweight build. I just wanted something lighter than my other AR's and much simpler. I believe I have acheived that. It came in at 6.8 pds w/o mag. My goal was 6 pds even but the stock is killing me there. Oh well, It will do for now. http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee110/blackfly53/020-1.jpg http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee110/blackfly53/013.jpg http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee110/blackfly53/021-1.jpg I really like the carbon fiber FF tube. With a different stock choice such as a old style CAR fiberite, I wonder what the weight would be then. |
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What kind of carbon fiber handguard is that?
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Originally Posted By jhc:
What kind of carbon fiber handguard is that? I think it's the Clark carbon fiber tube. Blackfly, how do you like it? I have been tossing around the idea of putting one on a LW 20" build. |
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I think it is a DPMS but Im not sure. I bought it off the EE here. I havent shot it yet but just handling it I like it.
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I was looking at that stock originally. Do you know how much the ACE stock weighs? I cant believe yours weighs less than mine with that M4 barrel on there and mine being a lightweight, though it is .750 at the sight base.
Originally Posted By camoman33935:
Here's my contribution to the thread. Upper Specs: BCM 16" M4 upper Rainier Arms Auto BCG WOA Charging Handle Magpul MOE Handguards Magpul MBUS Rear Sight Lower Specs: STAG Arms lower DPMS LPK ACE Skeleton 9.9" Stock Olympic Rifle Buffer Olympic Reciever Extension DPMS Buffer Spring Weight Unloaded - 5lbs 12.8oz Loaded (PMAG 30rounds) - 7lbs 3.2oz Here she is just got her all together today http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae75/camoman33935/IMG_1552-1.jpg |
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No sir I don't know how much it weighs without taking it off the rifle. I'm not sure how accurate the weight is but I weighed myself on the scale and then grabbed the rifle and weighed myself again and did the math. If I remember correctly the stock doesn't weigh as much as you'd think it does. I can take it off tomorrow and see if I can get a weight for you tomorrow if you'd like.
Originally Posted By blackfly53:
I was looking at that stock originally. Do you know how much the ACE stock weighs? I cant believe yours weighs less than mine with that M4 barrel on there and mine being a lightweight, though it is .750 at the sight base. Originally Posted By camoman33935:
Here's my contribution to the thread. Upper Specs: BCM 16" M4 upper Rainier Arms Auto BCG WOA Charging Handle Magpul MOE Handguards Magpul MBUS Rear Sight Lower Specs: STAG Arms lower DPMS LPK ACE Skeleton 9.9" Stock Olympic Rifle Buffer Olympic Reciever Extension DPMS Buffer Spring Weight Unloaded - 5lbs 12.8oz Loaded (PMAG 30rounds) - 7lbs 3.2oz Here she is just got her all together today http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae75/camoman33935/IMG_1552-1.jpg |
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Well I sure would like to know but you certainly dont have to trouble yourself. Up to you. I also weighed mine the same way!
Originally Posted By camoman33935:
No sir I don't know how much it weighs without taking it off the rifle. I'm not sure how accurate the weight is but I weighed myself on the scale and then grabbed the rifle and weighed myself again and did the math. If I remember correctly the stock doesn't weigh as much as you'd think it does. I can take it off tomorrow and see if I can get a weight for you tomorrow if you'd like. Originally Posted By blackfly53:
I was looking at that stock originally. Do you know how much the ACE stock weighs? I cant believe yours weighs less than mine with that M4 barrel on there and mine being a lightweight, though it is .750 at the sight base. Originally Posted By camoman33935:
Here's my contribution to the thread. Upper Specs: BCM 16" M4 upper Rainier Arms Auto BCG WOA Charging Handle Magpul MOE Handguards Magpul MBUS Rear Sight Lower Specs: STAG Arms lower DPMS LPK ACE Skeleton 9.9" Stock Olympic Rifle Buffer Olympic Reciever Extension DPMS Buffer Spring Weight Unloaded - 5lbs 12.8oz Loaded (PMAG 30rounds) - 7lbs 3.2oz Here she is just got her all together today http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae75/camoman33935/IMG_1552-1.jpg |
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I weighed the rifle again this morning and it came in at a conistent 6.8lbs so the same as yours.
Originally Posted By blackfly53:
Well I sure would like to know but you certainly dont have to trouble yourself. Up to you. I also weighed mine the same way! Originally Posted By camoman33935:
No sir I don't know how much it weighs without taking it off the rifle. I'm not sure how accurate the weight is but I weighed myself on the scale and then grabbed the rifle and weighed myself again and did the math. If I remember correctly the stock doesn't weigh as much as you'd think it does. I can take it off tomorrow and see if I can get a weight for you tomorrow if you'd like. Originally Posted By blackfly53:
I was looking at that stock originally. Do you know how much the ACE stock weighs? I cant believe yours weighs less than mine with that M4 barrel on there and mine being a lightweight, though it is .750 at the sight base. Originally Posted By camoman33935:
Here's my contribution to the thread. Upper Specs: BCM 16" M4 upper Rainier Arms Auto BCG WOA Charging Handle Magpul MOE Handguards Magpul MBUS Rear Sight Lower Specs: STAG Arms lower DPMS LPK ACE Skeleton 9.9" Stock Olympic Rifle Buffer Olympic Reciever Extension DPMS Buffer Spring Weight Unloaded - 5lbs 12.8oz Loaded (PMAG 30rounds) - 7lbs 3.2oz Here she is just got her all together today http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae75/camoman33935/IMG_1552-1.jpg |
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What sling mount are you using on your MOE handguard?
Originally Posted By Freakinout:
BCM BHF 16 Midlength lightweight profile http://www.poteau-oil.com/photography/firearm2011/bcm0611-01.jpg http://www.poteau-oil.com/photography/firearm2011/bcm0611-02.jpg http://www.poteau-oil.com/photography/firearm2011/bcm0611-03.jpg |
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Originally Posted By David14:
What sling mount are you using on your MOE handguard? Originally Posted By Freakinout:
BCM BHF 16 Midlength lightweight profile http://www.poteau-oil.com/photography/firearm2011/bcm0611-01.jpg http://www.poteau-oil.com/photography/firearm2011/bcm0611-02.jpg http://www.poteau-oil.com/photography/firearm2011/bcm0611-03.jpg It is the IWC Mount-N-Slot mount. You can see it in the IWC area on the Industry forum. It is a modification to the standard MOE handguards. |
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Originally Posted By blackfly53:
Bumping thread with a lighter stock. Found a YHM on the EE here. 6pds even without mag. http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee110/blackfly53/043-1.jpg ] very cool, think this one has a long lost twin though lol let me know how she shoots, i like the stock too ive never seen that till now |
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Originally Posted By ARonly:
Originally Posted By blackfly53:
Bumping thread with a lighter stock. Found a YHM on the EE here. 6pds even without mag. http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee110/blackfly53/043-1.jpg ] very cool, think this one has a long lost twin though lol let me know how she shoots, i like the stock too ive never seen that till now I shot it last week with the other stock on, not that I would expect a big difference with the new one. It is a little smoother than my carbine lengths just as I suspected. More of a "push" to the shoulder rather than a jolt compared to carbines. |
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Originally Posted By blackfly53:
Originally Posted By ARonly:
Originally Posted By blackfly53:
Bumping thread with a lighter stock. Found a YHM on the EE here. 6pds even without mag. http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee110/blackfly53/043-1.jpg ] very cool, think this one has a long lost twin though lol let me know how she shoots, i like the stock too ive never seen that till now I shot it last week with the other stock on, not that I would expect a big difference with the new one. It is a little smoother than my carbine lengths just as I suspected. More of a "push" to the shoulder rather than a jolt compared to carbines. yeah my soon to be next build ill be buying a LW Middy upper and just Magpul MOEing everything out for something simple & my 1st Middy. do you think you could lighten her up more with a LW bolt carrier and buffer or would that be asking for problems on a middy without an adjustable gas block ? |
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