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6/14/2011 6:58:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: fredshort][Edited] [#1]
tag for work


Boy, this is late.



Bushmaster Carbon 15, Leupold 1-4x20 scope. 6.5 pounds, loaded.
6/14/2011 8:19:27 PM EDT
[#2]
6/14/2011 9:29:21 PM EDT
[#3]
Originally Posted By ARonly:
Originally Posted By blackfly53:
Originally Posted By ARonly:
Originally Posted By blackfly53:
Bumping thread with a lighter stock. Found a YHM on the EE here. 6pds even without mag.

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee110/blackfly53/043-1.jpg
]


very cool, think this one has a long lost twin though lol

let me know how she shoots, i like the stock too ive never seen that till now


I shot it last week with the other stock on, not that I would expect a big difference with the new one. It is a little smoother than my carbine lengths just as I suspected. More of a "push" to the shoulder rather than a jolt compared to carbines.  



yeah my soon to be next build ill be buying a LW Middy upper and just Magpul MOEing everything out for something simple & my 1st Middy.

do you think you could lighten her up more with a LW bolt carrier and buffer or would that be asking for problems on a middy without an adjustable gas block ?



This is my first midlength so I havent done my homework on different buffers, carriers and such. I picked up the slickside carrier and it is an M16 carrier. Works good. Im sure someone may shed more light on your question.

You can cage an animal but you can't take away the rage..
6/15/2011 12:44:41 AM EDT
[#4]
Not to be a snob, but I don't think M4 profile barrels qualify as "light weight".  To me light weight refers to light weight barrel aka pencil profiles.  But I guess whatever.
"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

-Ben Franklin
6/15/2011 1:34:38 AM EDT
[#5]
Originally Posted By chewbacca:
Not to be a snob, but I don't think M4 profile barrels qualify as "light weight".  To me light weight refers to light weight barrel aka pencil profiles.  But I guess whatever.


+1, I was thinking, am I in the thread? AZHONKY
6/18/2011 2:43:04 AM EDT
[#6]
Originally Posted By chewbacca:
Not to be a snob, but I don't think M4 profile barrels qualify as "light weight".  To me light weight refers to light weight barrel aka pencil profiles.  But I guess whatever.


If you could use an M4 barrel and still make it 6lbs or under it would be a lightweight AR plain and simple.

Lightweight to me is the weight but i can see where your coming from, still people with lightweight barrels tack on a bunch of crap and have a non lightweight gun.

pointless argument i guess LOL

6/18/2011 2:54:43 AM EDT
[Last Edit: ARonly][Edited] [#7]
Originally Posted By blackfly53:
Originally Posted By ARonly:
Originally Posted By blackfly53:
Originally Posted By ARonly:
Originally Posted By blackfly53:
Bumping thread with a lighter stock. Found a YHM on the EE here. 6pds even without mag.

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee110/blackfly53/043-1.jpg
]


very cool, think this one has a long lost twin though lol

let me know how she shoots, i like the stock too ive never seen that till now


I shot it last week with the other stock on, not that I would expect a big difference with the new one. It is a little smoother than my carbine lengths just as I suspected. More of a "push" to the shoulder rather than a jolt compared to carbines.  



yeah my soon to be next build ill be buying a LW Middy upper and just Magpul MOEing everything out for something simple & my 1st Middy.

do you think you could lighten her up more with a LW bolt carrier and buffer or would that be asking for problems on a middy without an adjustable gas block ?



This is my first midlength so I havent done my homework on different buffers, carriers and such. I picked up the slickside carrier and it is an M16 carrier. Works good. Im sure someone may shed more light on your question.



the mil spec bolt carrier weighs 9.6oz, the JP LMOS bolt carrier is 5.3oz & the standard rifle length buffer is 5.5oz, the JP LMOS rifle buffer is 3oz

so doing that swap would lower your weight by 6.8oz and it would have alot less kick going back and forth, the only thing is that im not sure if it would run correctly with a midlength gas system, runs great on my carbine gas. you could try going with an adjustable front site like the one you have ?

im going to be dropping my Eotech 511 and hooking up a front and rear Magpul MBUS and im hoping itll be under 5lbs in the high 4s, I gotta put a small front rail on my CF free float though which is going to be crucial placement.

6/18/2011 9:21:05 AM EDT
[#8]
wow, nice light weight rifles.
6/18/2011 9:28:26 AM EDT
[Last Edit: YWHIC][Edited] [#9]
DPMS 5.56 Oracle w/16" Lite Barrel.. Hogue Grip, UAG 11.4oz Quad, & MagPul MBUS setup..  KISS..

should be <= 7 lbs..




still waiting to test the ULTRA short sight radius (12" post-post).. hoping for DOA target at 50 & 100 yards..

again.. super KISS..
6/18/2011 11:36:59 AM EDT
[#10]

My lightest AR15. A 14.5" BCM I had built for my wife.



6/18/2011 12:35:01 PM EDT
[#11]
newest toy, DD M4 V5 LW

i had a spare optic so i bought another AR for it

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6/18/2011 6:28:20 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Fooboy][Edited] [#12]




Where did you buy those standard middy handgaurds are how would you rate them?  I think that rifle looks awesome.
6/18/2011 7:40:27 PM EDT
[#13]
JT 16" LW carbine kit on CavArms lower


JT LW Commando kit on Essential lower

6/18/2011 8:33:55 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Lancelot][Edited] [#14]
Originally Posted By Fooboy:




Where did you buy those standard middy handgaurds are how would you rate them?  I think that rifle looks awesome.




Actually those, to the best of my knowledge, are made by Rock River. When I got my first middy, it had no handguards, so Jeff (USMC03) donated those to the cause.

Here she is without the DD BUIS and a BCM carry handle in place.


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6/18/2011 9:41:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Fooboy][Edited] [#15]
The mind says go with MOE handgaurds but my heart says "go classic" - on account that your rifle looks so awesome.

Have you handled MOE stuff - which would you go with and why?
6/18/2011 10:12:46 PM EDT
[#16]
Originally Posted By benelliwangM3:
http://i960.photobucket.com/albums/ae87/benelliwang/Light%20Weight%20AR/CIMG8303.jpg

Plum Crazy Lower
CAR Stock & Buffer tube instead of M4
Slick side upper
Carbon Fiber handguard
5lbs empty


i like the looks, and the light weight. carbon fiber handguard is outstanding. may i ask where you got the handguard? that's exactly what i'm looking for, for my next build.
6/18/2011 11:11:50 PM EDT
[#17]
Originally Posted By ARonly:
Originally Posted By chewbacca:
Not to be a snob, but I don't think M4 profile barrels qualify as "light weight".  To me light weight refers to light weight barrel aka pencil profiles.  But I guess whatever.


If you could use an M4 barrel and still make it 6lbs or under it would be a lightweight AR plain and simple.

Lightweight to me is the weight but i can see where your coming from, still people with lightweight barrels tack on a bunch of crap and have a non lightweight gun.

pointless argument i guess LOL



I guarantee thats not 6 or under...
6/18/2011 11:35:48 PM EDT
[#18]
Originally Posted By Fooboy:
The mind says go with MOE handgaurds but my heart says your go classic - on account that your rifle looks so awesome.

Have you handled MOE stuff - which would you go with and why?




Actually I have MOE's for it. This is a gun that I'm doing a test on to see if it will work as a police car gun. A leave it in the car and forget it gun. An issued as opposed to personally owned gun. One of the reasons for the thin hand guards is because that's what the current carbines have. The other is because the thin hand guards are what fits in the electric gun lock/racks in the cars.

That being said, I agree. It looks cool, and it handles well. I need to get it on a scale.

And to answer your question, I like them both. My working gun has MOE's on it, but its not lightweight. This test may change that.
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6/20/2011 1:48:21 AM EDT
[#19]
Originally Posted By erne75:
JT 16" LW carbine kit on CavArms lower
http://guns.valtamtechnologies.com/jt2-6-small.jpg



Do you have the weight on this?
6/21/2011 10:55:39 AM EDT
[#20]
Originally Posted By Lancelot:
Originally Posted By Fooboy:




Where did you buy those standard middy handgaurds are how would you rate them?  I think that rifle looks awesome.




Actually those, to the best of my knowledge, are made by Rock River. When I got my first middy, it had no handguards, so Jeff (USMC03) donated those to the cause.

Here she is without the DD BUIS and a BCM carry handle in place.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2558/5830990028_f7823ea56d_z.jpg


Whats the weight of your rig? AZHONKY
6/21/2011 8:30:22 PM EDT
[#21]
Originally Posted By AZHONKY:
Originally Posted By Lancelot:
Originally Posted By Fooboy:




Where did you buy those standard middy handgaurds are how would you rate them?  I think that rifle looks awesome.




Actually those, to the best of my knowledge, are made by Rock River. When I got my first middy, it had no handguards, so Jeff (USMC03) donated those to the cause.

Here she is without the DD BUIS and a BCM carry handle in place.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2558/5830990028_f7823ea56d_z.jpg


Whats the weight of your rig? AZHONKY


Don't know. I'll find a scale.
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6/21/2011 9:51:18 PM EDT
[#22]
Originally Posted By desertmoon:
http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=574


We have a WINNER!
6/21/2011 11:13:41 PM EDT
[#23]
Placeholder for DD LW 14.5 with pinned BC 1.5 ... on it's way to me now
6/22/2011 3:10:21 AM EDT
[Last Edit: ARonly][Edited] [#24]
Originally Posted By Lancelot:
Originally Posted By AZHONKY:
Originally Posted By Lancelot:
Originally Posted By Fooboy:




Where did you buy those standard middy handgaurds are how would you rate them?  I think that rifle looks awesome.




Actually those, to the best of my knowledge, are made by Rock River. When I got my first middy, it had no handguards, so Jeff (USMC03) donated those to the cause.

Here she is without the DD BUIS and a BCM carry handle in place.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2558/5830990028_f7823ea56d_z.jpg


Whats the weight of your rig? AZHONKY


Don't know. I'll find a scale.


i bought this scale from this ebay seller and have zero complaints on it, cheap, accurate, fast shipping & his customer service is great!!

Im not affiliated with the guy either, I was just real happy with the purchase, ive weighed every little part i can think of for my LW build.
http://cgi.ebay.com/75-lb-Digital-Postal-Postage-Shipping-Bench-Scale-NEW-/380349418267?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item588e978b1b#ht_3745wt_1141

7/27/2011 11:08:08 AM EDT
[#25]
any new ultralights?
7/27/2011 12:41:01 PM EDT
[#26]
With no magazine it weighed in at 6.2 pounds.





























DD Lightweight 14.5" CHF barrel and upper





BCM BCG and charging handle





Battlecomp 1.5





Mega lower





Geissele SSA trigger





Moe handguards,grip and stock





Mbus 2








Still need a sling and H-1
7/27/2011 8:27:12 PM EDT
[#27]
Back in the land of Waffle House and sweet tea!!!
7/27/2011 8:52:19 PM EDT
[#28]
Crappy cell pic


BCM lower
ADCO upper sports DD CHF barrel....FSB shaved down
BC 1.0
Centurion Arms 11in rail
Troy front sight/Diamondhead rear
BCM Mod 4 CH
Magpul Miad with spare bolt and firing pin
Vltor IMOD with spare batteries and oil in stock
Israeli 2 point sling with (2) LMT QC swivels
Geiselle SSA trigger
T1 on Larue
Magpul ladder rail covers
Magpul polymer trigger guard

total weight unloaded.......7.3 lbs





7/28/2011 2:33:33 AM EDT
[Last Edit: mvician][Edited] [#29]
Colt 6520 upper/Stag lower




7/28/2011 4:36:51 AM EDT
[#30]
Tag
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8/23/2011 8:07:22 PM EDT
[#31]
ADCO built 9mm RRA slickside upper receiver, 14.5" DD LW CHF midlength barrell, 1.5" Battlecomp, WOA BCG
Cav Arms lower
5.8lbs on bathroom scale without mag and light

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q25/alwayzbroken/DSC01087.jpg
8/23/2011 8:30:56 PM EDT
[#32]
DD 11.5" LW CHF Barrel - KAC URX II

7.5 lbs with empty PMAG


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8/23/2011 9:06:47 PM EDT
[#33]


"When Z-day comes, I'm gonna trap and release zeds after putting kevlar helmets on them, just to fuck with you guys." -DDiggler
8/23/2011 9:30:10 PM EDT
[#34]
Is this thread a sticky yet?
8/31/2011 6:34:25 PM EDT
[#35]
Not the lightest, but turned out how I wanted.


Pretty much all Spike's except DD 16" LW middy barrel and BAD ASS selector.

7lbs 10oz no mag
8lbs 10oz w/ 30 round Pmag
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9/6/2011 8:15:42 AM EDT
[#36]
I am dying to post pics of my lightweight build but I am still waiting on parts. Got the Cav Arms lower and a DPMS slick slide upper but I am waiting on the Bushy pencil barrel I have had it on order for months and when I call they have no answer as to when they are going to ship. What other pencil barrel options are there? Anyone have any experience with any carbon hand guards other than Clark?


Betrayal is the hidden blade.
9/6/2011 9:27:22 AM EDT
[#37]
Needs a sling and perhaps a Krylon paint job.

9/6/2011 9:40:38 AM EDT
[Last Edit: thornejc][Edited] [#38]
Bushmaster XM15 Lower Reciever
Palmetto State Armory (PSA) upper reciever
14.5" Bushmaster Barrel w/ 2" Phantom Flash Suppressor
Trijicon ACOG TA31 (M150)
PSA Trigger Grouping
Daniel Defense BCG
Titanium Firing Pin
Troy VG
Surefire Mini Scout m300a
Hogue Monogrip
Midwest Industries Gen2 Drop In rail (carbine length gas system)
Magpul MBUS  that needs to get to replaced in favor of a Troy
Magpul MOE stock

Weight Loaded: 9.2
Weight Unloaded w/PMAG: 8.4


9/6/2011 10:43:06 AM EDT
[Last Edit: soupy][Edited] [#39]


7lb 7oz unloaded
8lb 7.5oz fully loaded

Not super light, but not too bad I'd say considering it has a SS barrel + 12" rails
9/6/2011 5:14:42 PM EDT
[#40]
Some of you guys have a funny idea of "lightweight".
9/6/2011 5:47:20 PM EDT
[#41]
Originally Posted By chibajoe:
Some of you guys have a funny idea of "lightweight".


Funny you say that because I was kinda thinking the same. I am only halfway done with my lightweight build so I don't know what it will end up weighing but I would think that a lightweight would be 6 lbs. or less without a magazine. Mags are all different weights empty and depending what they are loaded to at the time it can be confusing. Weighing without a mag removes one more variable and gives a better idea of what the gun really feels like. Is a stock M4 like just under 8 lbs.?

Either way there are some nice rifles posted here.


Betrayal is the hidden blade.
9/6/2011 6:00:37 PM EDT
[#42]
Originally Posted By Gacksnabbit:
Originally Posted By chibajoe:
Some of you guys have a funny idea of "lightweight".


Funny you say that because I was kinda thinking the same. I am only halfway done with my lightweight build so I don't know what it will end up weighing but I would think that a lightweight would be 6 lbs. or less without a magazine. Mags are all different weights empty and depending what they are loaded to at the time it can be confusing. Weighing without a mag removes one more variable and gives a better idea of what the gun really feels like. Is a stock M4 like just under 8 lbs.?

Either way there are some nice rifles posted here.


around 6.36lbs empty, according to wikipedia.
Nothing worth having comes easy.
9/6/2011 6:49:13 PM EDT
[#43]
I consider lightweight rifles to be more than just having a lightweight barrel profile. Im guessing anything under 7lbs could be a "lightweight".
You can cage an animal but you can't take away the rage..
9/6/2011 6:58:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: DocBach][Edited] [#44]


Closest thing I've got to a lightweight build now is my wife's AR I just finished today; Spike's 14.5" Lightweight Midlength barrel with permanent attached Dynacomp Muzzle Break, Micro Gas Block, Spike's 9" SAR rail, ACOG TA33R-G, Spike's NIB Bolt Carrier Group, Spike's Battle Trigger, Tango Down Battlegrip, Magpul MOE buttstock.
"Soldier, you need to turn your ACOG off before the batteries die." - PMI Instructor, subject matter expert
9/7/2011 10:46:17 AM EDT
[#45]
Originally Posted By blackfly53:
I consider lightweight rifles to be more than just having a lightweight barrel profile. Im guessing anything under 7lbs could be a "lightweight".


Yeah, I'm thinking that if a rifle weighs more than 7 pounds with a 30 round mag, it's no longer falls into the lightweight category.  That's not to say that there arn't some really nice rifles in this thread, but they probably should go into one of the other picture threads.
9/7/2011 1:44:35 PM EDT
[#46]
14.5" BCM lightweight Midlength - If you remove the Aimpoint it's pretty light. The PT-2L only weighs 4.6 ounces with the Mount-N-Slot.

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9/8/2011 12:10:26 AM EDT
[#47]



Originally Posted By chibajoe:



Originally Posted By blackfly53:

I consider lightweight rifles to be more than just having a lightweight barrel profile. Im guessing anything under 7lbs could be a "lightweight".




Yeah, I'm thinking that if a rifle weighs more than 7 pounds with a 30 round mag, it's no longer falls into the lightweight category.  That's not to say that there arn't some really nice rifles in this thread, but they probably should go into one of the other picture threads.


While it's very possible to get an AR down to 7 lbs loaded, I don't recall ever seeing a fully-equipped carbine (optic, weaponlight, sling, back up irons) that was anywhere close to 6 lbs. unloaded.  The one below now sports a CTR stock and weighs in at 7.1 lbs empty, and feels perfectly balanced.  As pictured it's probably 7 lbs even.







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9/8/2011 2:05:10 AM EDT
[#48]


Weight?

Please.
9/8/2011 2:19:13 AM EDT
[#49]

Minus the loaded magazine my son's RRA middy is 7lbs 15oz.
"The fullsize A2 with a 20 inch barrel is the end of a long historical line of weaponry where the shooter was a real rifleman and not just some guy popping off rounds at 25 yards while looking through a magic looking glass." - JBnTX
9/8/2011 2:56:14 AM EDT
[#50]
NoDak A1 Upper with J&T 14.5 pencil barrel (Pinned Phantom) 5.6lbs  As shown with empty 20rd mag and sling.



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