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12/16/2004 4:03:51 PM EDT
hey guys, had my first FTF tonight.....

Was at the local range having some fun on teh 200yd line, and fired a round, next one didn't feed. Look in the chamber and it looks like it just hung up a bit on the front of the mag. Pull the charging handle back and let go, no dice. Look close and it looks like i had inadvertantly loaded an empty casing, pull the charging handle and press the mag release and have my shooting buddy pull the mag. He pulls it, looks me in the eye and tells me how lucky i am.


This is what was in the mag....

http://www.pbase.com/spirit03/image/37571838.jpg
Left - Good Round, Middle - Round that jammed, Right - Empty case



and after shaking all the powder out and pulling the bullet as far as it would go by hand..
http://www.pbase.com/spirit03/image/37571840.jpg


Ammo was Black Hills 68gr Match. First time something like this has happened to me, some of you more experienced AR shooters may not think much of it but it has me a little bit shaken up. Just thought i'd pass the message.
12/16/2004 4:20:37 PM EDT
[#1]
Yeah, that can happen with loading/reloading for a semi auto.
Gotta crimp the bullet tight.
Was it Blue or Red box Black Hills?
12/16/2004 4:20:39 PM EDT
[#2]
Was it REmanufactured ammo?...Black Hills is normally good stuff.
12/16/2004 4:31:18 PM EDT
[#3]
Same thing happened to me with some white box winchester's. Got rid of that stuff and bought some XM-193.
12/16/2004 4:34:51 PM EDT
[#4]

Quoted:
Same thing happened to me with some white box winchester's. Got rid of that stuff and bought some XM-193.


No kiddin', Longtrail...which type of Winchester? ...I hope it was'nt Q3131a...I've got a 1,000 rounds on order.
12/16/2004 4:35:51 PM EDT
[#5]
The bullet getting reamed back into the cassing happened to me as well.  But that was due to the very tip of the bullet catching just a hair below the barrel's feed ramp and not skipping up into the chamber. So when the bolt slams forward it just smacks the bullet into the casing.  If it happens to you again, kep note which side of the magazine it happened to.  Or better yet, take a look at your mag and see if the lips were dented any.   I touched up my feed ramps so that I rounded out the edge just bellow the ramps so that rounds won't get caught at that flat spot anymore.  see HERE for more info.  Good mags in good repair are always best.  But I like to be able to feed crap mags in disrepair....
12/16/2004 4:35:59 PM EDT
[#6]
I've only had that happen in my shitty steel mag
12/16/2004 4:36:27 PM EDT
[#7]
notify black hills asap.

have lot no info handy etc.

they should be notfied.

I only had that happen with 38 spec cci blazer 158 lead crap in a tublar mag on a marlin.
12/16/2004 5:45:46 PM EDT
[#8]
'Twas Black Hills remanufactured stuff. Thats all our local store carries as far as BH ammo goes. Besides that lil incident though had a freat night at the range. Was particularly suprised by teh american eagle flat base HP's i bought...

the 3 headshots and 2 centermass shots were all 50gr FBHP's. All of the shoulder shots were 68gr BTHP's aimed at the head http://www.pbase.com/spirit03/image/37571843.jpg


and i guess i'd better give the obligatory shot of teh weapon....
http://www.pbase.com/spirit03/image/37571854.jpg
12/16/2004 6:16:05 PM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Same thing happened to me with some white box winchester's. Got rid of that stuff and bought some XM-193.


No kiddin', Longtrail...which type of Winchester? ...I hope it was'nt Q3131a...I've got a 1,000 rounds on order.


No, this was the 40 round wal-mart stuff. Varmit pack, I think. The Q 3131A stuff is supposed to be good, I wouln't hesitate to buy that at all.
12/16/2004 8:15:23 PM EDT
[#10]
M4 extended ramps are nonsense ????
12/18/2004 5:34:37 AM EDT
[#11]
This happened to a friend of mine when his front takedown pin came partway out.  The tip of the rounds started hitting jut below the (non M4) feedramps.  The ammo was South African surplus.  I hate to think what would of happened if one of these got chambered and fired  Be careful.
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