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Posted: 4/15/2009 10:59:11 AM EDT
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I know that everything that I had got searched when I left Iraq and we were told specifically that we weren't allowed to have anything like that.
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Posted: 4/15/2009 11:01:36 AM EDT
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what keeps troops from mailing things straight to their doorstep?
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Posted: 4/15/2009 11:02:28 AM EDT
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what keeps troops from mailing things straight to their doorstep? The postal clerks that inspect everything you send. |
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Posted: 4/15/2009 11:02:55 AM EDT
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Was there any way that you could have mailed it to yourself? Not AKs but other stuff?
edit: too late |
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Posted: 4/15/2009 11:04:49 AM EDT
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what keeps troops from mailing things straight to their doorstep? The postal clerks that inspect everything you send. What keeps them from going to a privately owned business like fed ex and sending it? As in like i can walk into my local fed ex and mail a rifle to an ffl. |
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Posted: 4/15/2009 11:07:03 AM EDT
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My dad brought me home a chunk of the house they blew up when they killed ude and cusse...i know i didnt spell thier names right, but they dont deserve my time to even give a shit...
anyway, i also have the pic of him picking up the chunck, and the before and after pics or the house where they were killed...not worth anything, but cool as fuck to me |
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Posted: 4/15/2009 11:07:07 AM EDT
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I've always thought those gold plated guns were fuckin' sweeeet.
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Posted: 4/15/2009 11:07:12 AM EDT
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Posing with gold plated guns in photos, in Iraq, is not the same as bringing home a war trophy.
I have no idea what the regs are regarding war trophies. |
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Posted: 4/15/2009 11:07:21 AM EDT
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Dem guns prolly use fotay caliber pistol bullets.
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Posted: 4/15/2009 11:09:54 AM EDT
[#10]
DO WANT!!!!!
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Posted: 4/15/2009 11:11:00 AM EDT
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That AK with the green furniture is sexay.
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Posted: 4/15/2009 11:13:37 AM EDT
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That is pretty cool. Too bad there's not someone over there at least sending the captured furniture back off those AK's or something. Would be cool to have. |
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Posted: 4/15/2009 11:17:02 AM EDT
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It's probably a good thing I'm not over there, lest I do as my forefathers before me did and steal every fucking cool thing that wasn't nailed down and take a pry bar to what was nailed down. That's no shit. I had kin go over the Germany and Japan and send back all kinds of neat shit. Guns, militaria, china, pewter, coins, medals, bayonets, you name it.
Personally, I wouldn't care if it was against regs, I'd pull a Johnny Cash and send it home one piece at a time and reassemble once home, minus the NFA parts of course. |
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Posted: 4/15/2009 11:20:36 AM EDT
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You're not allowed war trophies and you cannot send such items back through the APO. Many have been smuggled out however in vehicles, many have been found also.
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Posted: 4/15/2009 11:22:40 AM EDT
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Warrant officer I know claims to have an RPG launcher he went back to claim after a firefight. It was special because the RPG hit his humvee but failed to detonate. I haven't seen it, and I know this sounds like major BS but this guy is a seriously bad motherfucker who was active 8 years for several deployments and only went IRR last year. He said the way to get stuff home was to get it on a plane elsewhere (he said Germany) where it was easier to move stuff to back to the US.
Again, I'm not attesting to the truth of the story, but it was firsthand from someone who certainly could have. I'll actually see if he wants to hit the range this weekend and maybe I can ask him if I can have a look-see. |
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Posted: 4/15/2009 11:23:21 AM EDT
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The green furniture AK's are not Iraqi.......they were Russian/Soviet built presentation guns awarded to Interior Ministry/Border Guards/etc.........none in Iraq.... Thread about them as we speak at the akforum......... |
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Posted: 4/15/2009 11:29:13 AM EDT
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You're not allowed war trophies and you cannot send such items back through the APO. Many have been smuggled out however in vehicles, many have been found also. So thats a no-go on the FedEx? |
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Posted: 4/15/2009 11:30:32 AM EDT
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I know someone (A Major) who has a couple Henry-Martinies and a Snider that he got from A-stan, he said getting the rifles was easy getting the correct bayonets was the tough part.
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Posted: 4/15/2009 11:31:51 AM EDT
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That's some fucking cool furniture w/matching mag right there! Holy shit. 
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Posted: 4/15/2009 11:32:46 AM EDT
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It is not permitted. If you get caught with one of those shiny firearms, you will get hammered. Your career will be over and you will suffer. Even those with half a brain know not to fuck around with stealing valuables from the Iraqi or Afghani theaters. The brainless who do attempt it and get caught have earned their punishment. I see it as a good, Social Darwinist type filter on our ranks. Catching dumbasses who ignore the many warnings and removing them from the military improves the quality of our fighting force.
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Posted: 4/15/2009 11:38:08 AM EDT
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Quoted: The green furniture AK's are not Iraqi.......they were Russian/Soviet built presentation guns awarded to Interior Ministry/Border Guards/etc.........none in Iraq.... Thread about them as we speak at the akforum......... Can you give me a link? I looked around, but couldn't find it. |
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Posted: 4/15/2009 11:41:47 AM EDT
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It is not permitted. If you get caught with one of those shiny firearms, you will get hammered. Your career will be over and you will suffer. Even those with half a brain know not to fuck around with stealing valuables from the Iraqi or Afghani theaters. The brainless who do attempt it and get caught have earned their punishment. I see it as a good, Social Darwinist type filter on our ranks. Catching dumbasses who ignore the many warnings and removing them from the military improves the quality of our fighting force. Are you allowed to use captured weapons while your over there? I've seen pictures of troops with AK's and shit slung over there shoulder. |
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Posted: 4/15/2009 11:44:02 AM EDT
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I've always thought those gold plated guns were fuckin' sweeeet. Right along with spinning rims, cuz 
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Posted: 4/15/2009 11:45:07 AM EDT
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IMO, taking a gun, knife or watch off a dead enemy combatant isn't looting, specially if you killed him personally. Taking artwork, jewelry, money, etc, etc from civilians or civilian buildings is looting and makes you no better than the idiots that looted NOLA. Is that how we want to be known?
Of course my opinion means nothing and I'll bow to the wisdom of our men in uniform and their code of conduct. |
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Posted: 4/15/2009 11:49:25 AM EDT
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what keeps troops from mailing things straight to their doorstep? The postal clerks that inspect everything you send. What keeps them from going to a privately owned business like fed ex and sending it? As in like i can walk into my local fed ex and mail a rifle to an ffl. not sure there are a lot of Fed Ex offices in Iraq as of yet and if there are I guarantee they inspect as well. Gulf War 1 were weren't allowed to bring back even an AK round. And if you had a sword or bayonet you wanted to bring back they cut the friggin blade off 
I did bring back a pretty nice pair of binos though |
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Posted: 4/15/2009 11:51:29 AM EDT
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It's probably a good thing I'm not over there, lest I do as my forefathers before me did and steal every fucking cool thing that wasn't nailed down and take a pry bar to what was nailed down. That's no shit. I had kin go over the Germany and Japan and send back all kinds of neat shit. Guns, militaria, china, pewter, coins, medals, bayonets, you name it. Personally, I wouldn't care if it was against regs, I'd pull a Johnny Cash and send it home one piece at a time and reassemble once home, minus the NFA parts of course. Probably a good thing you aren't over there and hopefully aren't serving. Integrity is pretty important. |
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Posted: 4/15/2009 11:52:45 AM EDT
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It is not permitted. If you get caught with one of those shiny firearms, you will get hammered. Your career will be over and you will suffer. Even those with half a brain know not to fuck around with stealing valuables from the Iraqi or Afghani theaters. The brainless who do attempt it and get caught have earned their punishment. I see it as a good, Social Darwinist type filter on our ranks. Catching dumbasses who ignore the many warnings and removing them from the military improves the quality of our fighting force. 100% agreement |
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Posted: 4/15/2009 11:55:02 AM EDT
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I know a lot of guys who just stashed shit in their unit's conex before they left theater and picked it up when they got home. Not going to say what though...
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Posted: 4/15/2009 11:55:08 AM EDT
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It is not permitted. If you get caught with one of those shiny firearms, you will get hammered. Your career will be over and you will suffer. Even those with half a brain know not to fuck around with stealing valuables from the Iraqi or Afghani theaters. The brainless who do attempt it and get caught have earned their punishment. I see it as a good, Social Darwinist type filter on our ranks. Catching dumbasses who ignore the many warnings and removing them from the military improves the quality of our fighting force. Yeap. Didnt an Admiral get busted for a bring back AK from Grenada, or was it Panama? |
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Posted: 4/15/2009 11:55:15 AM EDT
[#30]
after that guys acog got repoed by the FBI after he posted it on here i would be careful about admitting having anything
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Posted: 4/15/2009 11:56:15 AM EDT
[#31]
They wouldn't let me bring this one back
  I did get a bunch of cool trophies when I came back in 05, but leaving in 08 they really cracked down hard. |
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Posted: 4/15/2009 11:57:06 AM EDT
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It is not permitted. If you get caught with one of those shiny firearms, you will get hammered. Your career will be over and you will suffer. Even those with half a brain know not to fuck around with stealing valuables from the Iraqi or Afghani theaters. The brainless who do attempt it and get caught have earned their punishment. I see it as a good, Social Darwinist type filter on our ranks. Catching dumbasses who ignore the many warnings and removing them from the military improves the quality of our fighting force. Are you allowed to use captured weapons while your over there? I've seen pictures of troops with AK's and shit slung over there shoulder. Ask Captain Chontosh.
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Posted: 4/15/2009 11:58:10 AM EDT
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Quoted: Ask Captain Chontosh. Good answer  |
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Posted: 4/15/2009 12:00:55 PM EDT
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I've always thought those gold plated guns were fuckin' sweeeet. Right along with spinning rims, cuz http://pix.motivatedphotos.com/2009/2/21/633708056774609810-theyseemerollintheyhatin.jpg Sometimes its fun to have flashy shit. Everyone at the range would be jealous as fuck, I know I would lol. 
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Posted: 4/15/2009 12:04:46 PM EDT
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I know someone (A Major) who has a couple Henry-Martinies and a Snider that he got from A-stan, he said getting the rifles was easy getting the correct bayonets was the tough part. I know a contractor that brought back a Martini-Henry. I was okay to do so: it also has something to do with the age of the firearm and the availability of ammo |
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Posted: 4/15/2009 12:04:47 PM EDT
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what keeps troops from mailing things straight to their doorstep? The postal clerks that inspect everything you send. What keeps them from going to a privately owned business like fed ex and sending it? As in like i can walk into my local fed ex and mail a rifle to an ffl. sure, the next time im cruising through baghdad ill just look up fedex on the nuvi. I think there is one right next to mcdonalds and home depot. afterwords ill just hit wingstop and have a few beers and baskets while watching the game.
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Posted: 4/15/2009 12:07:42 PM EDT
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It is not permitted. If you get caught with one of those shiny firearms, you will get hammered. Your career will be over and you will suffer. Even those with half a brain know not to fuck around with stealing valuables from the Iraqi or Afghani theaters. The brainless who do attempt it and get caught have earned their punishment. I see it as a good, Social Darwinist type filter on our ranks. Catching dumbasses who ignore the many warnings and removing them from the military improves the quality of our fighting force. Are you allowed to use captured weapons while your over there? I've seen pictures of troops with AK's and shit slung over there shoulder. ummm...define "use". if by that you mean carry one around as my duty weapon then no, unless there are special provisions on a MiTT team (which I have seen). if by that you mean grab one when absolutely necessary and use it to accomplish the mission,and after which turning it over to your S-2, then yes. see avatar. |
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Posted: 4/15/2009 12:08:14 PM EDT
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brought back AK from iraq: I guess because it was automatic and not registered...but if it was registered could he have kept it?
The NFA registry was closed in 1986. No machine guns not registered by that time can be registered. |
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Posted: 4/15/2009 12:09:01 PM EDT
[#39]
Some guys get their Iraqi terps to DHL stuff home from BIAP, or so I hear.
A Marine in a firend's unit sent home a bunch of cash, a few pistols, and grenades inside a TV. Then he ran his suck about it at the DFAC, and ATF was waiting for it in the states. Hello prison time! |
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Posted: 4/15/2009 12:11:25 PM EDT
[#40]
Yes, Chontosh gave the arms he took back to the Iraqi's, one bullet at a time
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Posted: 4/15/2009 12:11:46 PM EDT
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I know someone (A Major) who has a couple Henry-Martinies and a Snider that he got from A-stan, he said getting the rifles was easy getting the correct bayonets was the tough part. I know a contractor that brought back a Martini-Henry. I was okay to do so: it also has something to do with the age of the firearm and the availability of ammo pre-1898 are non-firearms, and not current military issue. you can buy them and send them home straight from the bazaars on post. in iraq anything of military nature was not allowed to be sent back at all without a memorandum signed by an 0-5, which wasnt going to happen. it sucks, because I could have traded a leatherman for 4 brand new russian laminate and hungarian blonde AK stock sets with a local sheik at one point. |
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Posted: 4/15/2009 12:12:24 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: I know someone (A Major) who has a couple Henry-Martinies and a Snider that he got from A-stan, he said getting the rifles was easy getting the correct bayonets was the tough part. I know a contractor that brought back a Martini-Henry. I was okay to do so: it also has something to do with the age of the firearm and the availability of ammo Pre 1898 is considered "antique". Beat by 38 seconds. |
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Posted: 4/15/2009 12:12:44 PM EDT
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Its a shame they don't allow us to bring hardly anything home.
We had to fill out a lot of paperwork just to bring home AK bayonets and other stuff that we found, or bartered with the IA. Really wish we could bring home firearms, even if they were limited to SA. |
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Posted: 4/15/2009 12:14:45 PM EDT
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http://images.ibox.bg/2006/12/15/16736/256x192.jpg That's some fucking cool furniture w/matching mag right there! Holy shit. Looks like it'd color coordinate perfectly with the right bowling ball. |
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Posted: 4/15/2009 12:16:14 PM EDT
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Its a shame they don't allow us to bring hardly anything home. We had to fill out a lot of paperwork just to bring home AK bayonets and other stuff that we found, or bartered with the IA. Really wish we could bring home firearms, even if they were limited to SA. no shit, I could have gotten some nice toks, tariqs, helwans, star B and BM's, and even old beretta 92's with the euro heel mag release for dirt cheap. I saw a lot of semi stuff, like an SVT-40, sks rifles, and SVD's. |
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Posted: 4/15/2009 12:17:27 PM EDT
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Saw a lot of Sterling SMGs there. Brand new, too.
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Posted: 4/15/2009 12:18:54 PM EDT
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War Trophies are against GO-1A.
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Posted: 4/15/2009 12:22:08 PM EDT
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There are small air freight companies which go between Baghdad and here some folks may use to move trophies, that bypass a number of inspections
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Posted: 4/15/2009 12:31:14 PM EDT
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Brought home a collapsible stock off an MP5 that had been demilled and a spade grip for a DshK. The spade grip was for the DshK we had brought back from Astan the year before, it was going to be put in front of battalion when it finally got all dressed up. I left before that happened. Both had higher up approval.
My leaving country was delayed a few days as my section leader (an E-6 who thought he knew more about guns and NFA than me) decided to mail some pistols back to his wife and hide 5 AK's and a couple FN MAG's inside the fuel tank of his humvee. A brilliant move considering we were doing long range patrolling and his truck seemed to always run out before making it back, despite everyone topping off before leaving. Last I heard he was spending some time in Leavenworth. |
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Posted: 4/15/2009 12:37:29 PM EDT
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I heard anitques in a-stan were cool but pretty much nothing else firearm wise. The rules are stupid grenades i can see full auto's sure but pistols, semi auto guns, bolt actions etc that can all be bought legally here i have no problem with its been done in every war since the beginning.
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