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Posted: 1/20/2006 11:05:39 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/21/2006 9:11:22 AM EDT by EPOCH96]
Buddy of mine gave me this couple of years ago. Completely forgot about it till I was cleaning out the closet and found it.

It's pretty heavy, metal construction with a narrow hollow center. Has the following written on it..

CANISTER, COLORED SMOKE
105-MM, SHELL, M2
MIXTURE GREEN
10 21 -4 4-11

Anybody seen one of these before? The fuse is really cheap, like what you would expect on fireworks.

EPOCH

ETA: will be at least a week before I can light this thing. I live in the middle of dallas and need to find a place that will not have the fire dept/police showing up if I light it. Also need to get a digital video camera. Maybe stills would be good enough...






Link Posted: 1/20/2006 11:07:46 AM EDT
Artillery simulator?
Link Posted: 1/20/2006 11:08:11 AM EDT
Link Posted: 1/20/2006 11:09:34 AM EDT
Smoke pot.
Light it and let it burn. It's not launched out of anything.
Used lots of them in training, but never green, just white/gray.
Link Posted: 1/20/2006 11:09:38 AM EDT
light the damn fuse.
Link Posted: 1/20/2006 11:09:46 AM EDT
I bought a couple of those at a gun show years ago, TONS of smoke, like you can hide a 2 story house kind of smoke
Link Posted: 1/20/2006 11:13:45 AM EDT

Originally Posted By TheRedHorseman:
I bought a couple of those at a gun show years ago, TONS of smoke, like you can hide a 2 story house kind of smoke



SWEET...
Link Posted: 1/20/2006 11:14:16 AM EDT

Originally Posted By TheRedHorseman:
I bought a couple of those at a gun show years ago, TONS of smoke, like you can hide a 2 story house kind of smoke



That's what I'm talking about.

______________________________


Link Posted: 1/20/2006 11:15:06 AM EDT

Originally Posted By EPOCH96:

Originally Posted By TheRedHorseman:
I bought a couple of those at a gun show years ago, TONS of smoke, like you can hide a 2 story house kind of smoke



SWEET...



Light it inside
Link Posted: 1/20/2006 11:15:26 AM EDT
Good stuff. When I was in high school, one of my buddies got kicked out for setting one off in the gym. It filled the whole damn school.
Link Posted: 1/20/2006 11:16:16 AM EDT
just be aware that those things shoot about a foot of flame and sparks out of each end as it burns. and it'll stain asphalt for a looong time too
Link Posted: 1/20/2006 11:16:58 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/20/2006 11:17:49 AM EDT by Mauser101]

Originally Posted By TheRedHorseman:
I bought a couple of those at a gun show years ago, TONS of smoke, like you can hide a 2 story house kind of smoke



How much, how long ago? Did the canister get hot enough to light brush on fire? (A major concern in my area)

EDIT: My latter question appears to be answered.
Link Posted: 1/20/2006 11:17:52 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Mauser101:

Originally Posted By TheRedHorseman:
I bought a couple of those at a gun show years ago, TONS of smoke, like you can hide a 2 story house kind of smoke



How much, how long ago? Did the canister get hot enough to light brush on fire? (A major concern in my area)



probably 7-8 years ago and $10 each if memory serves. and the canister is the least of your worries for brushfires, this thing is a portable flamethrower
Link Posted: 1/20/2006 11:19:07 AM EDT

Originally Posted By 82ndAbn:
It appears to be a great device for a Fred Phelps gathering.




+ 1
Link Posted: 1/20/2006 11:20:37 AM EDT
Heheheh...I still have the recipie for MAKING those things.

Used to make them as a kid. A football size one will literally smoke out a block.

Lots and lots and lots of smoke.

I think I need to whip up another batch.
Link Posted: 1/20/2006 11:21:10 AM EDT

Originally Posted By TheRedHorseman:
just be aware that those things shoot about a foot of flame and sparks out of each end as it burns. and it'll stain asphalt for a looong time too



So setting it off on carpet would be a bad idea, then?
Link Posted: 1/20/2006 11:22:45 AM EDT

Originally Posted By blackbag223:
light the damn fuse.

+1 Light it up, and take pics!
Link Posted: 1/20/2006 11:26:43 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/20/2006 11:27:10 AM EDT by EPOCH96]

Originally Posted By SteyrAUG:
Heheheh...I still have the recipie for MAKING those things.

Used to make them as a kid. A football size one will literally smoke out a block.

Lots and lots and lots of smoke.

I think I need to whip up another batch.



[evil voice] reeeeeaaaaaaaallly... Do tell...[evil voice]
Link Posted: 1/20/2006 11:28:05 AM EDT

Originally Posted By SteyrAUG:
Heheheh...I still have the recipie for MAKING those things.

Used to make them as a kid. A football size one will literally smoke out a block.

Lots and lots and lots of smoke.

I think I need to whip up another batch.




Recipe Please!!!
Link Posted: 1/20/2006 11:31:39 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Cahill:

Originally Posted By SteyrAUG:
Heheheh...I still have the recipie for MAKING those things.

Used to make them as a kid. A football size one will literally smoke out a block.

Lots and lots and lots of smoke.

I think I need to whip up another batch.




Recipe Please!!!



Yeppers...............
Link Posted: 1/20/2006 11:33:53 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/20/2006 11:46:51 AM EDT by SteyrAUG]
Already digging it up.

Stand by.


OK, here we go. The only tough ingredient is saltpetre but I imagine that is pretty simple to find in these internet days. If I could get it at 12 we can surely find it now.

The most effective mix (from experiments at a 12 year old) is about FOUR PARTS SUGAR to SIX PARTS SALTPETRE.

Cook it on LOW until it melts into a plastic like substance with a waxlike consistency. Do this OUTSIDE in a pan you don't want anymore. You don't want to cook this shit in your kitchen and God help you if you manage to burn it (aka light it).

When it gels up nice nemove it from the heat and allow it to cool. When it cools enough to handle make your desired shapes (baseball size is good for smoke suitable for things like paintball - football size and you will smoke out a football field).

As a tip when it is still maleable dump a bunch of matchheads into the mix to help keep it burning (about 12 match heads per baseball size object). And use a cannon fuse to light (I usually use about a foot of cannon fuse with 2/3 folded into the substance and 1/3 sticking out).

The best method I found was to use aluminum pie tins as molds. Four the mixture into the pie tin (or cook it in the pie tin) until you have a pancake size amount about 3/4 of an inch thick. Then dump about a dozen match heads on the pancake and roll it up like a burrito (at the same time rolling 12 inches of cannon fuse inside it) Then fold the whole burrito shaped object over one time and mold it into something like a small football shape.

Experiment for best size to smoke results.

Enjoy.
Link Posted: 1/20/2006 11:35:35 AM EDT
I'll take that recipe as well
Link Posted: 1/20/2006 11:36:07 AM EDT
when I was younger, I made some that were salt peter and sugar melted together. the ratio was 6-4 but I dont remember if it was by weight or volume. I also dont remember what was 6 and what was 4.
Link Posted: 1/20/2006 11:39:01 AM EDT

Originally Posted By SteyrAUG:
Already digging it up.

Stand by.



you have 34 posts left to find it, make it, take pics, and get it posted for 30K.
Link Posted: 1/20/2006 11:40:13 AM EDT
I've heard about the salt peter and sugar smoke bomb. Never was able to find any salt peter though
Link Posted: 1/20/2006 11:44:03 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Kooter:
I've heard about the salt peter and sugar smoke bomb. Never was able to find any salt peter though




I got it from a pharmacy. Ive heard you can find it in gardening sections of some stores. I remember when I was going to go buy 40 lbs of it and buy tons of sugar and try to make a huge one. But I couldnt find any so ahhh no giant smoke bomb
Link Posted: 1/20/2006 11:45:32 AM EDT
salt peter =

STUMP REMOVER

at your local home depot
Link Posted: 1/20/2006 11:46:19 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/20/2006 11:46:49 AM EDT by thedoctors308]
Smoke pot

ETA: beat to it.
Standing by for recipe.
Link Posted: 1/20/2006 11:48:04 AM EDT
recipe is 9 parts salt peter (stump remover) to 1 part sugar

melt, let harder, light
Link Posted: 1/20/2006 11:48:10 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Kooter:
I've heard about the salt peter and sugar smoke bomb. Never was able to find any salt peter though



Thats it. I got it from a Soldier of Fortune issue in the late 70s IIRC.
Link Posted: 1/20/2006 11:49:15 AM EDT
Waiting to see what the great SteyrAug digs up. BTW, there are plenty of recipes on the skyligher web site.
Link Posted: 1/20/2006 11:49:27 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/20/2006 11:50:10 AM EDT by SteyrAUG]

Originally Posted By blackbag223:
recipe is 9 parts salt peter (stump remover) to 1 part sugar

melt, let harder, light




4 to 6 is the ratio.

Unless of course stump remover isn't pure salt petre in which case you might be right.
Link Posted: 1/20/2006 11:55:46 AM EDT
You can buy salt peter in 5 gallon kegs from Brownells, it's used for bluing guns with the molten salt method.
Link Posted: 1/20/2006 11:56:21 AM EDT
Tagged for the carnage potential.
Link Posted: 1/20/2006 11:58:00 AM EDT
This 4 to 6 ratio, is that by weight or by volume?

Also, how to melt? Do you use a double boiler method for safety?

EPOCH
Link Posted: 1/20/2006 11:59:18 AM EDT
Link Posted: 1/20/2006 11:59:58 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/20/2006 12:01:05 PM EDT by Ring]
www.unitednuclear.com/smoke.htm


ebay has Potassium Nitrate
Link Posted: 1/20/2006 12:01:31 PM EDT
tag
Link Posted: 1/20/2006 12:02:21 PM EDT

Originally Posted By SteyrAUG:

Originally Posted By blackbag223:
recipe is 9 parts salt peter (stump remover) to 1 part sugar

melt, let harder, light




4 to 6 is the ratio.

Unless of course stump remover isn't pure salt petre in which case you might be right.



you are right. thats the ratio for tannerite
Link Posted: 1/20/2006 12:03:07 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/20/2006 12:12:05 PM EDT
if you light that thing and take pics of it and post them it would be the coolest thing in weeks
Link Posted: 1/20/2006 12:12:05 PM EDT
if you light that thing and take pics of it and post them it would be the coolest thing in weeks
Link Posted: 1/20/2006 12:16:05 PM EDT
I think sugar and salt peter will make rocket fuel if cast in the right purportion
Link Posted: 1/20/2006 12:19:36 PM EDT
I call bullshit on this entire thread.

Any self respecting ARFcomer would have posted "What WAS this thing" and told how he set it off in his house, or better yet his parent's house or even an apartment.

Bonus points for posting pics which show nothing but smoke.

But this "what do I have" crap is for pussies.

Light that thing and YOU tell US what it is/was.
Link Posted: 1/20/2006 12:23:51 PM EDT

Originally Posted By CITADELGRAD87:
I call bullshit on this entire thread.

Any self respecting ARFcomer would have posted "What WAS this thing" and told how he set it off in his house, or better yet his parent's house or even an apartment.

Bonus points for posting pics which show nothing but smoke.

But this "what do I have" crap is for pussies.

Light that thing and YOU tell US what it is/was.



How true, how true.
Link Posted: 1/20/2006 12:24:04 PM EDT

Originally Posted By CITADELGRAD87:
I call bullshit on this entire thread.

Any self respecting ARFcomer would have posted "What WAS this thing" and told how he set it off in his house, or better yet his parent's house or even an apartment.

Bonus points for posting pics which show nothing but smoke.

But this "what do I have" crap is for pussies.

Light that thing and YOU tell US what it is/was.



+1

Link Posted: 1/20/2006 12:25:51 PM EDT

Originally Posted By CITADELGRAD87:
I call bullshit on this entire thread.

Any self respecting ARFcomer would have posted "What WAS this thing" and told how he set it off in his house, or better yet his parent's house or even an apartment.

Bonus points for posting pics which show nothing but smoke.

But this "what do I have" crap is for pussies.

Light that thing and YOU tell US what it is/was.



HAHAHAHA! That is the best advice I've heard this year.
Link Posted: 1/20/2006 12:27:35 PM EDT
Only way to find out is to light it and see!
Link Posted: 1/20/2006 12:30:59 PM EDT
tag
Link Posted: 1/20/2006 12:31:46 PM EDT
Hopefully FLAL1A will come along and try this out at his church parking lot..
Link Posted: 1/20/2006 12:33:02 PM EDT
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