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Link Posted: 1/20/2006 12:33:45 PM EDT
[#1]
TAG!
Link Posted: 1/20/2006 12:35:26 PM EDT
[#2]
LIGHT THAT FUCKER!
Link Posted: 1/20/2006 12:39:48 PM EDT
[#3]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I bought a couple of those at a gun show years ago, TONS of smoke, like you can hide a 2 story house kind of smoke



How much, how long ago?  Did the canister get hot enough to light brush on fire?  (A major concern in my area)


I can tell you that it will ignite a small compact car should one somehow end up parked on top of it.
Link Posted: 1/20/2006 12:57:38 PM EDT
[#4]

Quoted:
This 4 to 6 ratio, is that by weight or by volume?

Also, how to melt?  Do you use a double boiler method for safety?

EPOCH



Volume. You could use a double broiler but I always did it one a low flame directly.
Link Posted: 1/20/2006 12:58:14 PM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
You can buy salt peter in 5 gallon kegs from Brownells, it's used for bluing guns with the molten salt method.  



Good to know.
Link Posted: 1/20/2006 1:00:48 PM EDT
[#6]
hmmm note to self get some "stump remover" and a bag of sugar.
Link Posted: 1/20/2006 1:04:23 PM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
I bought a couple of those at a gun show years ago, TONS of smoke, like you can hide a 2 story house kind of smoke



SWEET...  



Light it inside



And post pics!
Link Posted: 1/20/2006 1:07:41 PM EDT
[#8]
This one is oh so tagged.
Link Posted: 1/20/2006 1:10:08 PM EDT
[#9]
tag
Link Posted: 1/20/2006 1:10:16 PM EDT
[#10]
Wilson's stump remover.  (1lb cans)  If memory serves, it's 96% pure.  More than good enough for this purpose.

"Borrow" a mortar and pestle from your chemistry class.  The finer the mix the faster it burns.

Don't breathe it.


Link Posted: 1/20/2006 1:23:13 PM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:
Wilson's stump remover.  (1lb cans)  If memory serves, it's 96% pure.  More than good enough for this purpose.

"Borrow" a mortar and pestle from your chemistry class.  The finer the mix the faster it burns.

Don't breathe it.






Ummmm, you cook it into a gel.
Link Posted: 1/20/2006 2:34:03 PM EDT
[#12]
t
Link Posted: 1/20/2006 3:11:38 PM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:

Quoted:
This 4 to 6 ratio, is that by weight or by volume?

Also, how to melt?  Do you use a double boiler method for safety?

EPOCH



Volume. You could use a double broiler but I always did it one a low flame directly.


www.unitednuclear.com/smoke.htm
weight

Start by making a small size batch (50 grams total). Measure out 30 grams of Potassium Nitrate and 20 grams of Sugar into a small cup. For those of you who cut math class, 30 grams of Potassium Nitrate and 20 grams of Sugar is still a 60% / 40% mixture. If you make a batch larger than 50 grams, it will be very difficult to mix and heat evenly. You can always make more, so don't mix up a giant batch.
Link Posted: 1/20/2006 3:17:24 PM EDT
[#14]
Tag. I can always use another idea to get myself into trouble....
Link Posted: 1/20/2006 3:23:05 PM EDT
[#15]
Oh this will be good.....

Link Posted: 1/20/2006 3:57:44 PM EDT
[#16]
I know this is a dumb question but where can I get/how can I make some M-80's?  (real ones, not the M-88/M98's that are just wolfpacks in a bigger tube)
Link Posted: 1/20/2006 3:59:42 PM EDT
[#17]

Quoted:
I know this is a dumb question but where can I get/how can I make some M-80's?  (real ones, not the M-88/M98's that are just wolfpacks in a bigger tube)



its easy, just hop in the car and drive to mexico
Link Posted: 1/20/2006 4:01:51 PM EDT
[#18]
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Link Posted: 1/20/2006 4:09:54 PM EDT
[#19]
I am pretty sure that is the smoke canister from the M84 105mm arty smoke round.  Each round had 3 in it, some former artillery observers might remember while adjusting non-M825 smoke you requested "Smoke repeat" to ensure you didn't have bouncing canisters prior to FFE.
Link Posted: 1/20/2006 4:21:38 PM EDT
[#20]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I know this is a dumb question but where can I get/how can I make some M-80's?  (real ones, not the M-88/M98's that are just wolfpacks in a bigger tube)



its easy, just hop in the car and drive to mexico




Haha I dont think anyone is going to post it here. But it can be found on the net. Just do a search. Everything can be shipped to your house to make one but I wouldnt do it. Heard way too many stories of people mixing some up and blowing their hands off. Best thing to do it ask around before the 4th if july and find someone local thats selling. I would high reccomend that you do not try to make them yourself.
Link Posted: 1/20/2006 4:32:52 PM EDT
[#21]
Well shit, if stump remover is almost 100% pure salt peter, can it be used to make gun powder?

You will need 3 chemicals to make Black Powder, they are: Potassium Nitrate, Sulfur and Charcoal. Stay away from very low grade materials like "Dusting Sulfur" and Bar-B-Que Charcoal Briquettes. The Charcoal you use in a BBQ is not pure Charcoal. It contains other materials and chemicals that are designed to keep the material burning evenly and for a long time, but it will make lousy Black Powder. If you use low quality chemicals, you will undoubtedly get low quality Black Powder.
All chemicals necessary to make Black Powder can be found on our Chemical & Metals supply page. The following is the standard formula for Black Powder:

Black Powder :  
Potassium Nitrate- 150 grams
Charcoal Powder-30 grams
Sulfur-20 grams




Open the lid to your Ball Mill and add the following:  150 grams of Potassium Nitrate, 30 grams of Charcoal Powder, and 20 grams of Sulfur ( if your lead balls are not already in the tumbling barrel, go ahead and put them in now ). Remember that ONLY lead balls can be used because they are completely non-sparking.
When complete, this will make 200 grams of Black Powder ( a little under 1/2 pound ). You can make larger or smaller batches, just keep the percentages of all the chemicals the same. You MUST use an accurate scale to weigh your chemicals, preferably one that is accurate to 1/10th of a gram. If you do not have access to an accurate scale, you can find some for sale on our site here.



With all 3 chemicals and the lead balls inside, put the lid on the tumbling barrel and seal it, then set it in the Mill.
Turn on your Ball Mill and let it rotate for 2 to 4 hours. As the Ball Mill rotates, the lead balls will crush the chemicals together and reduce them into a super fine powder. The longer you let it grind, the stronger your Black Powder will be. Let the Ball Mill do its grinding in an uninhabited area, not in a place like your bedroom. Although the chance of accidental ignition is very remote, it is wise to put your mill in the garage, or better yet, outside to do its work.




At the end of a couple of hours stop the mill. Lay out a sheet of paper ( newspaper will work fine ). Open the lid to the barrel, and dump the entire contents ( lead balls and all ) into a spaghetti strainer over your sheet of paper. The strainer will catch the lead balls and with a little shaking, all the Black Powder will filter through onto your paper sheet. When Black Powder is in a fine "dust-like" state like this, it is called "Meal Powder". The Meal Powder you just made can now be used as-is in a variety of formulas and projects. By adding a little water and Dextrin to it, you can easily make Black Match Fuse or Quickmatch. See our section on making Black Match Fuse & Quickmatch.

http://www.unitednuclear.com/bp.htm


Hmm....sounds like fun
Link Posted: 1/20/2006 4:37:44 PM EDT
[#22]
tag...I want to see what he does with it.
Link Posted: 1/20/2006 4:39:40 PM EDT
[#23]
I say let it off in your local Zombie Congregation Center...
Link Posted: 1/20/2006 4:47:10 PM EDT
[#24]
Hmmmm......more fun things to get from the local farm supply store.


And just in time for the weekend too!
Link Posted: 1/20/2006 5:15:39 PM EDT
[#25]
Tag for the inevitable AZ or NV member lighting off a 55 gallon smoke bomb!
Link Posted: 1/20/2006 5:22:40 PM EDT
[#26]
Can't wait to see it!
Link Posted: 1/20/2006 9:26:18 PM EDT
[#27]
We will need video, not just pics btw : )
Link Posted: 1/20/2006 9:35:53 PM EDT
[#28]
gat
Link Posted: 1/20/2006 9:37:17 PM EDT
[#29]
tag
Link Posted: 1/20/2006 9:53:29 PM EDT
[#30]
tag

and Steyr thanks for the recipe
Link Posted: 1/20/2006 10:07:36 PM EDT
[#31]
Tagged,  I lit one of these a few years ago on a hot humid day and that smoke was really really thick and dense
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 6:21:11 AM EDT
[#32]
This thread is oh so tagged.  

Light the damned fuse and record it and post it!
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 6:27:59 AM EDT
[#33]
Aww what the heck.

Tag for video.

Link Posted: 1/21/2006 6:56:58 AM EDT
[#34]
Waiting for the video.





still waitnig...
What's the matter? R Ya  Sceered?

Link Posted: 1/21/2006 7:13:05 AM EDT
[#35]
Light it and post video.
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 7:14:31 AM EDT
[#36]

Quoted:
It appears to be a great device for a Fred Phelps gathering.  



Just make sure you're close enough so that you can find the fuckers and.......................
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 7:32:37 AM EDT
[#37]
VIDEO

Sean
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 7:35:04 AM EDT
[#38]
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 7:42:32 AM EDT
[#39]
tag, gonna make me some for the next arfcom shoot .
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 7:43:19 AM EDT
[#40]
Tag for later
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 7:44:02 AM EDT
[#41]
tagged
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 7:46:46 AM EDT
[#42]

Quoted:
It appears to be a great device for a Fred Phelps gathering.  


+1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 7:59:13 AM EDT
[#43]
taggage
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 8:19:55 AM EDT
[#44]
Taggage!
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 8:49:02 AM EDT
[#45]
Waiting for the video.
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 8:55:17 AM EDT
[#46]
BTT
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 9:05:53 AM EDT
[#47]
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 9:12:28 AM EDT
[#48]
Update from 1st post, sorry guys might be a while


ETA: will be at least a week before I can light this thing.  I live in the middle of dallas and need to find a place that will not have the fire dept/police showing up if I light it.  Also need to get a digital video camera.  Maybe stills would be good enough...
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 9:28:20 AM EDT
[#49]
tagged
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 9:39:23 AM EDT
[#50]
This oughta be good
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