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Posted: 1/11/2006 6:33:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/11/2006 7:11:41 PM EDT by lippo]
And I hope we don't get it, but this country needs that level of shock and wake up every once in a while.

With a terrorist attack or what happened on 9/11...

- More people wanted to help others, than focus on their own accumulation of "things".
- Sheeple started to wake up and realize that there "are" bad people out there.
- A lot more of the sheeple started to exercise their 2nd Amendment Right and started to wake up to the fact of why it IS important. Look at Bill O'Reilly for example.
- People showed, on both sides, that they love this country and the people in it. "Even if it was for a short period of time"
- People found out at some level that our society can be fragile.
- People found out that the government can not protect you.
- And people, that don't normally, got involved.


Without a terrorist attack, which we are at now...

- People are getting back to thinking only of themselves.
- People are starting to forget there are bad people wanting to hurt us.
- All those guns that were bought by the sheeple are back in the closet or in the chest of drawers and haven't been used in a while.
- The extremes of the liberals and conservatives are at ridiculous levels of hostility and stupidity.
- People are starting to think again..."Nothing is going to happen to us."
- And people are starting to go back into their own little worlds again.


Sad, but that's natural for human beings. So God help those that "don't" get it.
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 6:34:10 PM EDT
I kind of like how there aren't any terrorist attacks in the US. If that means the people get complacent about terrorism, so be it. Better than them learning the hard way.
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 6:35:49 PM EDT

Originally Posted By raven:
I kind of like how there aren't any terrorist attacks in the US. If that means the people get complacent about terrorism, so be it. Better than them learning the hard way.




I do too, but you don't get my point. People aren't learning at all, now.
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 6:35:51 PM EDT
Yes
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 6:38:49 PM EDT
Saadly I agree.
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 6:38:59 PM EDT

Originally Posted By lippo:

Originally Posted By raven:
I kind of like how there aren't any terrorist attacks in the US. If that means the people get complacent about terrorism, so be it. Better than them learning the hard way.




I do too, but you don't get my point. People aren't learning at all, now.



So people should die so they do? What kind of thinking is that?
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 6:39:15 PM EDT
We don't need an attack.

We need to kill ALL of the terrorists.

If any of y'all think an attack would help us learn something........volunteer your families as victims.



Not as good an idea........huh?
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 6:39:59 PM EDT
I disagree....

It would polarize even more people against Bush and damage the Republican parties philosophy that we have to take the fight to the enemy...

You think the Blame Bush Crowd is vocal now???

They think we deserved to be attacked in the first place...if we get attacked again now...they will say we deserved it even more because of out anti-world view and incursions in to Afganistan and Iraq.
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 6:41:04 PM EDT
Foxnews just reported that you are going to get your wish VERY soon.
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 6:41:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/11/2006 7:09:24 PM EDT by lippo]

Originally Posted By raven:

Originally Posted By lippo:

Originally Posted By raven:
I kind of like how there aren't any terrorist attacks in the US. If that means the people get complacent about terrorism, so be it. Better than them learning the hard way.




I do too, but you don't get my point. People aren't learning at all, now.



So people should die so they do? What kind of thinking is that?




Whoa...I didn't actually mean that. The point was that it's sad, only that level of shock get's people thinking and acting in more of a positive/proactive way. And I was looking for supportive ways to get people acting in that positive/proactive way again.

It ain't going to happen, but a guy can dream.


*The reason I framed it this way, "I knew people would look at this thread and probably post in it. Otherwise, it's just move along....nothing to see here. Just like the sheeple reaction I'm getting."
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 6:42:10 PM EDT

Originally Posted By krpind:
We don't need an attack.

We need to kill ALL of the terrorists.

If any of y'all think an attack would help us learn something........volunteer your families as victims.



Not as good an idea........huh?

+1
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 6:43:57 PM EDT
We are victims of our own success.
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 6:45:52 PM EDT
Uh count me in for one who thinks that we don't need another terrorist attack. Hell it took the economy 4 years to get back on its feet. Not to mention the 3,000 who died. Fuck that.
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 6:46:03 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Johnny_Reno:
We are victims of our own success. Islam

Link Posted: 1/11/2006 6:47:13 PM EDT

Originally Posted By FatCobra:
Foxnews just reported that you are going to get your wish VERY soon.




Link?
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 6:51:08 PM EDT
Jesus, some of the wacky shit posted here...


Originally Posted By krpind:
We don't need an attack.

We need to kill ALL of the terrorists.

If any of y'all think an attack would help us learn something........volunteer your families as victims.



Not as good an idea........huh?



+1
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 6:52:47 PM EDT

Originally Posted By go3:
Jesus, some of the wacky shit posted here...


Originally Posted By krpind:
We don't need an attack.

We need to kill ALL of the terrorists.

If any of y'all think an attack would help us learn something........volunteer your families as victims.



Not as good an idea........huh?



+1







Did you read it? Or just look at the thread title and form your conclusion before you read the posts?
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 6:53:06 PM EDT

Originally Posted By krpind:

If any of y'all think an attack would help us learn something........volunteer your families as victims.

Not as good an idea........huh?



Very well said!

I, for one, can go a lifetime without having to endure another 9/11...
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 6:54:41 PM EDT
Whoever thinks we need another terrorist attack to occur is a fucking idiot. Like someone said, offer yourself or your family up for slaughter if you feel so strongly about it.

Unbelievable.
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 6:56:16 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 6:56:32 PM EDT

Foxnews just reported that you are going to get your wish VERY soon.

I have it on in the background and didn't hear anything like that.
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 6:57:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/11/2006 6:57:57 PM EDT by pale_pony]
September 11th was America's wake-up call...

and in true liberal fashion, the dimocraps promptly hit the snooze bar and went right back to sleep.
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 7:05:19 PM EDT

Originally Posted By VTHOKIESHOOTER:
Uh count me in for one who thinks that we don't need another terrorist attack. Hell it took the economy 4 years to get back on its feet. Not to mention the 3,000 who died. Fuck that.



a very big and very sad +1.

we don't need that kind of crap. We do need to keep eliminating the asswipes that do this sort of thing but we are still recovering from sept 11th economically.

The sheep will never be awakened. Count them amongst the enemy and adjust your activities so.
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 7:10:07 PM EDT


Do you people actually understand what you are reading?
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 7:10:54 PM EDT



The sheep will never be awakened. Count them amongst the enemy and adjust your activities so.

In the Revolutionary War only 30% of the colonists approved of Independance. Who cares if 45% are complacent. That is an improvement!
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 7:12:43 PM EDT

Originally Posted By VTHOKIESHOOTER:



The sheep will never be awakened. Count them amongst the enemy and adjust your activities so.

In the Revolutionary War only 30% of the colonists approved of Independance. Who cares if 45% are complacent. That is an improvement!




They say only 2 to 3% actually acted in it.
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 7:13:57 PM EDT

Originally Posted By lippo:

Do you people actually understand what you are reading?



Try and get a clue before you post a moronic thread like this.

You said, and I quote:


And I hope we don't get it, but this country needs that level of shock and wake up every once in a while.


We need dead Americans and a collapsing stock market that only now (almost 4 and a half years later) can be considered recovered?

Un-fucking-believeable.
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 7:14:28 PM EDT
we need another terrorist attack (cliche coming) like we need a hole in the head.

i believe there have been thwarted attacks the public just does not know about. that is a good thing.
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 7:17:13 PM EDT

Originally Posted By lippo:

Originally Posted By FatCobra:
Foxnews just reported that you are going to get your wish VERY soon.




Link?



Just poked around Fox a bit and cant find it. It was either today or yesterday (one runs into another for me and I cant keep track). Basically they said they have a pattern established and one is due in the next 30 days.
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 7:20:11 PM EDT

Originally Posted By roboman:

Originally Posted By lippo:

Do you people actually understand what you are reading?



Try and get a clue before you post a moronic thread like this.

You said, and I quote:


And I hope we don't get it, but this country needs that level of shock and wake up every once in a while.


We need dead Americans and a collapsing stock market that only now (almost 4 and a half years later) can be considered recovered?

Un-fucking-believeable.




Say "anything" you want. The point of the thread was... PEOPLE ARE SLEEPING AGAIN AND IT'S GOING TO TAKE A MAJOR LEVEL OF SHOCK TO WAKE THEM UP...AND THAT IS SAD!

Do you "honestly" believe I'd want 3,000 people to die like that?

On the other hand, a lot more people than that die of smoking and driving their cars drunk EVERY DAY...and people don't do ANYTHING to help others out. See an old woman pass out on the street and it takes 15 people to see it, before ONE person will step up to help. Sad! Just plain sad!

But right after a terrorist attack, I'd bet at least 10 of those people would get involved. That's my point.

What are you a hater tonight?
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 7:21:07 PM EDT

Originally Posted By FatCobra:

Originally Posted By lippo:

Originally Posted By FatCobra:
Foxnews just reported that you are going to get your wish VERY soon.




Link?



Just poked around Fox a bit and cant find it. It was either today or yesterday (one runs into another for me and I cant keep track). Basically they said they have a pattern established and one is due in the next 30 days.

Link Posted: 1/11/2006 7:30:40 PM EDT

Originally Posted By pale_pony:
September 11th was America's wake-up call...

and in true liberal fashion, the dimocraps promptly hit the snooze bar and went right back to sleep.



Very well put, sir. And the theme of the thread.
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 7:34:00 PM EDT
Bad idea though I at least understand the point you are trying to get across rather than ranting like an asshat.

I agree with the poster who said the Sheeple will never wake up. Hell, some used 9/11 as a way to destroy America from within. We had people on airplanes then cower while their planes were flown into the WTC, etc, killing both them and thousands more. Next time around I suspect that some would try to fight and that some of their fellow passengers would turn against them.

Consider them informers and a 5th Column for our enemies, plan accordingly.
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 7:52:41 PM EDT
I personally said on about Sept 12th that this country would not finish war this unless we are hit again and I still believe it. We do not, as a country, have the will to prosecute this war to the end, based only on Sept11.

Thats my opinion.
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 7:56:14 PM EDT

Originally Posted By lippo:

Originally Posted By raven:
I kind of like how there aren't any terrorist attacks in the US. If that means the people get complacent about terrorism, so be it. Better than them learning the hard way.




I do too, but you don't get my point. People aren't learning at all, now.



They really weren't learning then.

Everyone gets pissed for a day or so and then it is right back to Oprah.
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 7:58:08 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 7:59:24 PM EDT

Originally Posted By -Duke-Nukem-:
I sorta hope that the Oscars get hit with a suicide bomb. Is that wrong?




If Michael Moore throws himself on the bomber, no one else would get hurt. In fact, you wouldn't hear the explosion at all.
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 8:01:00 PM EDT

Just poked around Fox a bit and cant find it. It was either today or yesterday (one runs into another for me and I cant keep track). Basically they said they have a pattern established and one is due in the next 30 days.

There's been one "expert" or another claiming that since 9/11. I don't buy it. It's the same as the people wearing signs around their necks in the street saying the end is nigh.

Link Posted: 1/11/2006 8:02:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/11/2006 8:03:35 PM EDT by hughjafj]

I sorta hope that the Oscars get hit with a suicide bomb. Is that wrong?

Wishing for fellow americans to die because you don't like some of their viewpoints?
Yeah, I'd say that's pretty fucked up. How about we just hope it happens in your town, entirely localised in your living room, in your easy chair?

Link Posted: 1/11/2006 8:02:54 PM EDT

Originally Posted By _RAGNAR_:
I personally said on about Sept 12th that this country would not finish war this unless we are hit again and I still believe it. We do not, as a country, have the will to prosecute this war to the end, based only on Sept11.

Thats my opinion.



Agreed. My quote was that we don't have the stomach for it.
I don't even think another attack, even a worse one, would be enough. Half of this country would blame America, balme conservatives and want us to appease our enemies.
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 8:05:55 PM EDT
Yeah, I agree with Djar. All an attack would do is give the liberals ammo to use against us.

Shit many of them act like the reason for every attack is all our fault anyway, they'll just say it was caused by Iraq, even though we didn't need to be in Iraq for 9/11 to happen.
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 8:08:32 PM EDT

Originally Posted By hughjafj:

Just poked around Fox a bit and cant find it. It was either today or yesterday (one runs into another for me and I cant keep track). Basically they said they have a pattern established and one is due in the next 30 days.

There's been one "expert" or another claiming that since 9/11. I don't buy it. It's the same as the people wearing signs around their necks in the street saying the end is nigh.





Well...if you know and believe in the bible, you'll see that we "are" in the last days period. For the FIRST time in history, technologically, everything that is about the last days is possible. Tracking of humans, tracking of travel, having to make a purchase by using a chip implanted in the hand or forehead, destruction of 1/3 of the world's population by nuclear war, the middle east having an Islamic leader with a nuclear bomb, Israel becoming a state in 1948, etc., etc. We ARE at a time when the end could be close. How close? Who knows. NOBODY but the Father. But "technologically" we are at a point, where it could happen. As far as the infrastructure making it possible to track all humans left and controlling all of their purchases? I think we still have some time, but I can't make a prediction. I just know, we DO have the technology to make EVERYTHING in the bible happen, just like it says. For the first time in history, we ARE at that point.
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 8:13:06 PM EDT

Originally Posted By hughjafj:
Yeah, I agree with Djar. All an attack would do is give the liberals ammo to use against us.




Well, it would give them ammo to try with. We don't have to accept their bullshit anymore. In past decades conservatives had NO voice thanks to an overwhelmingly socialist MSM. That has changed. In the 60's and 70's conservative men in this country just knuckled under. We don't have to repeat that mistake. Personally, I'd be willing to fight them in the media, politically and on the battlefield if it comes down to it. Enough appeasement, enough knuckling under to the PC thugs, enough of watching our nation being destroyed from within by the socialist 5th column.
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 8:13:28 PM EDT

Originally Posted By hughjafj:
Yeah, I agree with Djar. All an attack would do is give the liberals ammo to use against us.

Shit many of them act like the reason for every attack is all our fault anyway, they'll just say it was caused by Iraq, even though we didn't need to be in Iraq for 9/11 to happen.




Act? According to them, it IS our fault.

And to tell the truth, if you know anything about our foreign policy in regards with our corporations and how our government/corporations act towards and with foreign interests, I can understand why the liberals DO think it's our fault. I don't agree with it, and I don't think it's an all encompassing thought process, but I "can" understand why they have a point. A SMALL point, but a point never the less.


Link Posted: 1/11/2006 8:15:27 PM EDT

Originally Posted By drjarhead:

Originally Posted By hughjafj:
Yeah, I agree with Djar. All an attack would do is give the liberals ammo to use against us.




Well, it would give them ammo to try with. We don't have to accept their bullshit anymore. In past decades conservatives had NO voice thanks to an overwhelmingly socialist MSM. That has changed. In the 60's and 70's conservative men in this country just knuckled under. We don't have to repeat that mistake. Personally, I'd be willing to fight them in the media, politically and on the battlefield if it comes down to it. Enough appeasement, enough knuckling under to the PC thugs, enough of watching our nation being destroyed from within by the socialist 5th column.




That's why I was so happy to see Alan Spector bitch slap Ted Kennedy back to the corner of the room.
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 8:16:35 PM EDT
The next terrorists attack will only insure further trampling of our rights.


Who here wants to lose the priveledged liberties they have left?

Raise your hand!!!
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 8:17:32 PM EDT
No. we don't.

Frankly NOTHING will wake the goddamn sheep from their slumber, so why wish an attack on us.

We're fucked.

SG
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 8:19:10 PM EDT

Originally Posted By lippo:
And I hope we don't get it, but this country needs that level of shock and wake up every once in a while.

With a terrorist attack or what happened on 9/11...

- More people wanted to help others, than focus on their own accumulation of "things".
- Sheeple started to wake up and realize that there "are" bad people out there.
- A lot more of the sheeple started to exercise their 2nd Amendment Right and started to wake up to the fact of why it IS important. Look at Bill O'Reilly for example.
- People showed, on both sides, that they love this country and the people in it. "Even if it was for a short period of time"
- People found out at some level that our society can be fragile.
- People found out that the government can not protect you.
- And people, that don't normally, got involved.


Without a terrorist attack, which we are at now...

- People are getting back to thinking only of themselves.
- People are starting to forget there are bad people wanting to hurt us.
- All those guns that were bought by the sheeple are back in the closet or in the chest of drawers and haven't been used in a while.
- The extremes of the liberals and conservatives are at ridiculous levels of hostility and stupidity.
- People are starting to think again..."Nothing is going to happen to us."
- And people are starting to go back into their own little worlds again.


Sad, but that's natural for human beings. So God help those that "don't" get it.



Link Posted: 1/11/2006 8:20:16 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Mattl:
The next terrorists attack will only insure further trampling of our rights.


Who here wants to lose the priveledged liberties they have left?

Raise your hand!!!



+1.

This guy gets it.

SG
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 8:22:24 PM EDT

And to tell the truth, if you know anything about our foreign policy in regards with our corporations and how our government/corporations act towards and with foreign interests, I can understand why the liberals DO think it's our fault. I don't agree with it, and I don't think it's an all encompassing thought process, but I "can" understand why they have a point. A SMALL point, but a point never the less.


Nothing we have done in the world makes us deserve 9/11, not a fucking thing. The only ones at fault are the assholes striking against us because they are too fucked in the head or too yellow to change shit in their own country, which is what they claim to be doing. Their society is fucked because of ther own actions, not ours.
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 8:37:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/11/2006 8:39:20 PM EDT by Mattl]

Originally Posted By lippo:
And I hope we don't get it, but this country needs that level of shock and wake up every once in a while.

With a terrorist attack or what happened on 9/11...

- More people wanted to help others, than focus on their own accumulation of "things".
- Sheeple started to wake up and realize that there "are" bad people out there.
- A lot more of the sheeple started to exercise their 2nd Amendment Right and started to wake up to the fact of why it IS important. Look at Bill O'Reilly for example.
- People showed, on both sides, that they love this country and the people in it. "Even if it was for a short period of time"
- People found out at some level that our society can be fragile.
- People found out that the government can not protect you.
- And people, that don't normally, got involved.


Without a terrorist attack, which we are at now...

- People are getting back to thinking only of themselves.
- People are starting to forget there are bad people wanting to hurt us.
- All those guns that were bought by the sheeple are back in the closet or in the chest of drawers and haven't been used in a while.
- The extremes of the liberals and conservatives are at ridiculous levels of hostility and stupidity.
- People are starting to think again..."Nothing is going to happen to us."
- And people are starting to go back into their own little worlds again.


Sad, but that's natural for human beings. So God help those that "don't" get it.




You remember what the terrorists hate us for our freedom, our gluttony, and our excess. Remember the tape of Osama after 9/11 where he talked specificly about the Patriot Act? He said we our fools to hand over our freedom and except any loss of the rights/priveledges we had. Long story short they forced us to except change in the form of our Government further infringing on our rights and sacrificing our liberty for false security. That idea sound familiar at all???? It should, tragicly it is lost on most, Americans especially.

HE ESSENTIALLY CALLED US MORONIC FUCKING SHEEP


And you believe another terrorists attack will change something for the better and somehow unify us on the right path? Furthermore you want our Government to take more authority and gain more reach into our day to day life?

It pains me to say it but Osama is right.
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