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Posted: 1/7/2006 10:44:22 AM EDT
I've heard in various places the proper terminology is Former Marine, not Ex-Marine.

What's the reasoning behind this? Thanks
Link Posted: 1/7/2006 10:44:57 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/7/2006 10:45:24 AM EDT by Barrelburner]
"There are no 'ex-Marines'"

Once a Marine, always a Marine.
Link Posted: 1/7/2006 10:45:05 AM EDT
it has to do with the "once a Marine, always a Marine" mentality
Link Posted: 1/7/2006 10:47:52 AM EDT
Though I have heard of dishonorably discharged Marines referred to as "ex-Marines". Dunno what the rule is for them.
Link Posted: 1/7/2006 11:14:28 AM EDT

Originally Posted By absit:
Though I have heard of dishonorably discharged Marines referred to as "ex-Marines". Dunno what the rule is for them.



You might as well call yourself a Felon if you received a dishonorable. You can't own a firearm and can't vote in most states.
Link Posted: 1/7/2006 11:16:26 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Interceptor_Knight:

Originally Posted By absit:
Though I have heard of dishonorably discharged Marines referred to as "ex-Marines". Dunno what the rule is for them.



You might as well call yourself a Felon if you received a dishonorable. You can't own a firearm and can't vote in most states.

Yup, the military only gives dishonorable discharges for really really really bad stuff, usually amounting to felonies.
Link Posted: 1/7/2006 11:29:35 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Barrelburner:
"There are no 'ex-Marines'"

Once a Marine, always a Marine.



Roger that. Semper Fi!
Link Posted: 1/7/2006 11:29:40 AM EDT

Originally Posted By DAC_2141:
I've heard in various places the proper terminology is Former Marine, not Ex-Marine.

What's the reasoning behind this? Thanks



Because the Marine Corps is a brotherhood. Everyone goes through the same shit in boot camp, and there are only 2 places to go, so the training is almost the same.

It has to do with the pride of being a Marine. you don't capitalize solider, sailor, or airman, but you do Marine.

Until you go through it, you don't understand.

And the only ex-Marines are DD's & BCD.
Link Posted: 1/7/2006 11:36:13 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/7/2006 11:36:51 AM EDT by bulldog1967]

Originally Posted By Barrelburner:
"There are no 'ex-Marines'"

Once a Marine, always a Marine.



Yes there are:



Link Posted: 1/7/2006 12:00:29 PM EDT

Originally Posted By bulldog1967:

Originally Posted By Barrelburner:
"There are no 'ex-Marines'"

Once a Marine, always a Marine.



Yes there are:

www.nndb.com/people/067/000039947/murtha-sized.jpg
www.abc.net.au/sydney/stories/Scott_Ritt_m829960.jpg
www.simonsays.com/assets/isbn/0743235355/C_0743235355.jpg




Link Posted: 1/7/2006 12:11:09 PM EDT
Explain please??? Im curious???



Originally Posted By bulldog1967:

Originally Posted By Barrelburner:
"There are no 'ex-Marines'"

Once a Marine, always a Marine.



Yes there are:

www.nndb.com/people/067/000039947/murtha-sized.jpg
www.abc.net.au/sydney/stories/Scott_Ritt_m829960.jpg
www.simonsays.com/assets/isbn/0743235355/C_0743235355.jpg

Link Posted: 1/7/2006 12:13:51 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Barrelburner:
"There are no 'ex-Marines'"

Once a Marine, always a Marine.



Even Oswald and Swafford?
Link Posted: 1/7/2006 12:14:22 PM EDT
I worked with a guy that was in the USMC. I always called him an ex Marine. It never failed to get him worked up.
You would think after 10 years he would finally get the idea I was fucking with him.
Link Posted: 1/7/2006 12:15:33 PM EDT

Originally Posted By WildBoar:

Originally Posted By Barrelburner:
"There are no 'ex-Marines'"

Once a Marine, always a Marine.



Even Oswald and Swafford?



IIRC, it has been explained that the only EX-Marine is Lee Harvey Oswald.
Link Posted: 1/7/2006 12:16:13 PM EDT

Originally Posted By WildBoar:
Even Oswald and Swafford?



Why would you group Oswald and Swafford together? What did Swafford do that was so terrible? Oswald never stood trial...
Link Posted: 1/7/2006 12:22:11 PM EDT

Originally Posted By FREEFALLE7:
Explain please??? Im curious???



Murtha

Ritter: Link

"US defeat in Iraq 'inevitable'
26/03/2003 16:03 - (SA)

Lisbon - The United States does not have the military means to take over Baghdad and will lose the war against Iraq, former UN weapons inspector Scott Ritter said.

"The United States is going to leave Iraq with its tail between its legs, defeated. It is a war we can not win," he told private radio TSF in an interview broadcast here on Tuesday evening.

"We do not have the military means to take over Baghdad and for this reason I believe the defeat of the United States in this war is inevitable," he said.

War 'already lost'

"Every time we confront Iraqi troops we may win some tactical battles, as we did for ten years in Vietnam, but we will not be able to win this war, which in my opinion is already lost," Ritter added.

Link Posted: 1/7/2006 12:29:10 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Interceptor_Knight:

Originally Posted By WildBoar:
Even Oswald and Swafford?



Why would you group Oswald and Swafford together? What did Swafford do that was so terrible? Oswald never stood trial...



I just thought that the consensus here was that Swafford was a piece of Crap that crapped on his brothers with his book.
Link Posted: 1/7/2006 12:30:13 PM EDT

Originally Posted By WildBoar:

Originally Posted By Interceptor_Knight:

Originally Posted By WildBoar:
Even Oswald and Swafford?



Why would you group Oswald and Swafford together? What did Swafford do that was so terrible? Oswald never stood trial...



I just thought that the consensus here was that Swafford was a piece of Crap that crapped on his brothers with his book.



You'd be right.
Link Posted: 1/7/2006 12:32:41 PM EDT
Dimebag's murderer is an Ex-Marine.
Link Posted: 1/7/2006 4:14:42 PM EDT

Originally Posted By bulldog1967:

Originally Posted By WildBoar:

Originally Posted By Interceptor_Knight:

Originally Posted By WildBoar:
Even Oswald and Swafford?



Why would you group Oswald and Swafford together? What did Swafford do that was so terrible? Oswald never stood trial...



I just thought that the consensus here was that Swafford was a piece of Crap that crapped on his brothers with his book.



You'd be right.



It isn't my "consensus" as I don't care. Opinions, his or anyone's, are free for the givin' and takin'.
Link Posted: 1/7/2006 6:02:58 PM EDT

Originally Posted By WildBoar:

Originally Posted By Interceptor_Knight:

Originally Posted By WildBoar:
Even Oswald and Swafford?



Why would you group Oswald and Swafford together? What did Swafford do that was so terrible? Oswald never stood trial...



I just thought that the consensus here was that Swafford was a piece of Crap that crapped on his brothers with his book.

He did shit on the Marine Corps with his book, but it takes worse than that for the Corps to turn it's back on you.
Link Posted: 1/8/2006 10:05:15 AM EDT

Originally Posted By 20iner:
Dimebag's murderer is an Ex-Marine.



+1
Link Posted: 1/8/2006 11:26:21 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/8/2006 12:01:14 PM EDT by Barrelburner]
You do realize that Marines are technically squids, right?

ETA to add the smiley...don't take me too seriously.
Link Posted: 1/8/2006 11:27:45 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Barrelburner:
You do realize that Marines are technically squids, right?



No.

The Marines are a department of the Navy alright....the MEN'S department!
Link Posted: 1/8/2006 11:46:32 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Barrelburner:
"There are no 'ex-Marines'"

Once a Marine, always a Marine.

What he said! While in various guard units,there were lots of Former Marines,a real good group. Only bad thing about them was that I never kept in contact with them all. (Bruce Hodgeson, Gary Davis;wounded in Viet Nam, Kevin Eddy, Larry"Cuz" Smith, John Gauthier in San Diego, and there's more I can't remember off hand)
Link Posted: 1/8/2006 11:58:51 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Barrelburner:
You do realize that Marines are technically squids, right?


No....I'm afraid I didn't realize that. When I went thru Parris island in 1995, at no time was I referred to as a "sailor", nor was I referred to as "sailor" at any time since, so technically you're WRONG. If I had wanted to be a sailor, I would have joined the Navy. No disrespect to the Navy intended.
Link Posted: 1/8/2006 12:23:49 PM EDT
"EX-" implies seperation with abandonment.

"Former" implies you are just not doing it anymore.

Kinda like a former girlfriend and an EX-girlfriend.

No Expert
Link Posted: 1/8/2006 12:48:02 PM EDT
If the statement "once a marine, always a marine" is true, then there should be no former marines either, since "former" and "ex" are synonyms. Oh well, it is just one more meaningless issue of semantics that people (in this case marines) choose to get worked up about for a lack of anything useful to do with their time.
Link Posted: 1/8/2006 1:38:09 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Barrelburner:
"There are no 'ex-Marines'"

Once a Marine, always a Marine.



Semper Fi Forever!!!!
Link Posted: 1/8/2006 5:37:13 PM EDT

Originally Posted By zonan:
If the statement "once a marine, always a marine" is true, then there should be no former marines either, since "former" and "ex" are synonyms. Oh well, it is just one more meaningless issue of semantics that people (in this case marines) choose to get worked up about for a lack of anything useful to do with their time.



MArine is spelled with a capital M. Learn it, live it, love it.
Link Posted: 1/8/2006 6:34:57 PM EDT

Originally Posted By zonan:
If the statement "once a marine, always a marine" is true, then there should be no former marines either, since "former" and "ex" are synonyms. Oh well, it is just one more meaningless issue of semantics that people (in this case marines) choose to get worked up about for a lack of anything useful to do with their time.



I sincerely hope you are bullshitting us.

My closest friend is a Marine (got out in 93) I am a former soldier. The ribbing knows no bounds between us. One thing I can count on is his loyalty to me and the knowledge that he would spare nothing to save my ass if I was in a bind. (Hence the Motto: Semper Fidelis).

As I understand it, Being a marine is a committment for life. Once you commit to the Corps, the Corps will take you into its arms forever. You could be broke and homeless on the streets devoid of all material things the one thing you do have is the Corps.

To minimize thier title is unjustifiable. It is a right you have not earned.
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