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Posted: 12/21/2005 6:30:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/21/2005 6:31:49 PM EDT by snipAR_15]
Is this gun any good? It's been a while since I bought a gun. What prices do they run and are aftermarket parts easy to come by? How accurate are they (compared to the AR-15)?
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 6:31:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/21/2005 6:32:25 PM EDT by mjohn3006]
Yes. Good. Buy.

I paid $380 for mine. But that is on the low side.
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 6:32:19 PM EDT

Originally Posted By snipAR_15:
Is this gun any good? It's been a while since I bought a gun. What prices do they run and are aftermarket parts easy to come by? How accurate are they (compared to the AR-15)?



Yes. Depends on which maker. Yes. Not as accurate, but not as bad as AK.
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 6:32:22 PM EDT
My next rifle will be an FAL. It is THE battle rifle.
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 6:32:46 PM EDT
Unreliable pieces of crap with virtually no aftermarket support and mags are hard to find.
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 6:33:24 PM EDT

Originally Posted By thelastgunslinger:
My next rifle will be an FAL. It is THE battle rifle.




Why is it "THE" Battle Rifle?
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 6:34:33 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Tomislav:
Unreliable pieces of crap with virtually no aftermarket support and mags are hard to find.




+1
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 6:35:30 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Tomislav:
Unreliable pieces of crap with virtually no aftermarket support and mags are hard to find.



Link Posted: 12/21/2005 6:39:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/21/2005 6:55:58 PM EDT by BigDozer66]
It is the 'Right Arm of the Free World'!

Like all great ARFCOM traditions get more than one!

What kind are you looking at getting?

G1, Izzy, STG58, Congo or some other variant?

I love every one of my FAL's!

The DSA STG58 is a nice one...


G1's are nice also...


The Izzy is one of my favorite's.



BigDozer66
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 6:41:16 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 6:42:17 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/21/2005 6:43:13 PM EDT by legalese77]
Happiness is a warm FAL




My best Pal is a FAL
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 6:42:29 PM EDT

Originally Posted By BigDozer66:
It is the 'Right Arm of the Free World'!

Like all great ARFCOM traditions get more than one!

What kind are you looking at getting?

G1, Izzy, Congo or some other variant?

I love every one of my FAL's!


BigDozer66



What are some good cheap ones?
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 6:43:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/21/2005 6:44:20 PM EDT by VTwin60]
You must have one.....MUST
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 6:48:04 PM EDT
They are like AR's, you can't have just one.
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 6:48:54 PM EDT
FN FAL:Right Arm of the Free World,the firearm has great history and was used in Many battles across the World it's still in use.I might suggest a DSArms STG58 for the money spent mine are fine firearms the accuracey is of a 'Light Battle Rifle' but none the less so Enjoyable I could never part with mine or any of them for that matter
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 6:50:35 PM EDT
The FAL is a MUST have in any collection. It is THE Main Battle Rifle. Beats everything (even the M14) hands down. Try and get a Springfield SAR 4800 version of the FAL.

Link Posted: 12/21/2005 6:50:43 PM EDT
The FAL is 'the' battle rifle, because it was adopted by more countries than any other rifle in the '50s and 60s. It was the dominant player until the G3 started eroding its market. FALs & G3s were easy to sell as they were cash and carry for the most part. "Buying" from the US or the East Block carried WAY too much baggage.

FALs are beautiful rifles IMO, their accuracy is decent enough, but they will never win a contest against an accurized M1A or AR.

Here's an L1A1 I put together the first weekend after the ban expired. The donor was an old Century L1A1 with the terrible thumbhole. The kit is an Aussi, with a British Suit added.
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 6:51:05 PM EDT
I really like the way this one shoots/handles:
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 6:51:29 PM EDT
why are the dsa stg58 models much cheaper tha the sa58?
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 6:54:00 PM EDT

Originally Posted By torstin:
why are the dsa stg58 models much cheaper tha the sa58?



They're built off the excellent but used Austrian STG 58 kits with a new DSA reciever.
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 7:01:26 PM EDT

Originally Posted By snipAR_15:

Originally Posted By BigDozer66:
It is the 'Right Arm of the Free World'!

Like all great ARFCOM traditions get more than one!

What kind are you looking at getting?

G1, Izzy, Congo or some other variant?

I love every one of my FAL's!


BigDozer66



What are some good cheap ones?





Don't go "cheap", spend the money and get something you can be proud of. You don't have to dump a lot to get a good FAL. Say $750-$1200, depending on what you "need".

AB
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 7:06:52 PM EDT
An Fal is a good weapon but your seriously delusional if you think it's better than an M1a.
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 7:16:42 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/21/2005 7:27:43 PM EDT by VTwin60]

Originally Posted By MadBodhi:
An Fal is a good weapon but your seriously delusional if you think it's better than an M1a.


And those 90+ other NATO/UN/Non WARSAW nations with exception to Taiwan must've been delusional too right? All the proof one really needs is the fact that it was a mechanized firearm that even the Brits could make.
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 7:17:26 PM EDT

Originally Posted By DriftPunch:
Here's an L1A1 I put together the first weekend after the ban expired. The donor was an old Century L1A1 with the terrible thumbhole. The kit is an Aussi, with a British Suit added.
img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/DriftPunch/l1a1lowres.jpg



Nice!
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 7:17:56 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Tomislav:
Unreliable pieces of crap with virtually no aftermarket support and mags are hard to find.



To which I can only add make sure not to buy a DSA, all other makers are pretty good.

Link Posted: 12/21/2005 7:20:06 PM EDT

Originally Posted By VTwin60:

Originally Posted By torstin:
why are the dsa stg58 models much cheaper tha the sa58?



They're built off the excellent but used Austrian STG 58 kits with a new DSA reciever.



And in case anyone is wondering I cannot get one to out perform the other in a side by side.

The only difference is finish (the SA58 is nicer). So unless you want a pretty gun, the Stg58 is the "best buy."
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 7:23:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/21/2005 7:24:34 PM EDT by Eagle374]
From what ive read their is of alot rubbish l1a1's and such mixed to shit in the US (century), in NZ dont get any of that. Guess decent one cost more too

I have a Aussy L1A1, Ex NZ army. They go for around 500-600 USD here in NZ
my L1A1 does 3" grouping at 100m. I like the feel of them more than the M1A having a pistol grip and they have the adjustable gas system which is good too.
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 7:26:20 PM EDT
The FAL is the most affordable .308 battle rifle you're going to find (in terms of kits), and is fairly easy to assemble when compared with it's other contemporaries...

It's no AR-10, but then again you can't get an AR-10 for $400-500

I just got one myself... Will see how it shoots Friday...

Link Posted: 12/21/2005 7:28:35 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Eagle374:
From what ive read their is of alot rubbish l1a1's and such mixed to shit in the US (century), in NZ dont get any of that. Guess decent one cost more too

I have a Aussy L1A1, Ex NZ army. They go for around 500-600 USD here in NZ
my L1A1 does 3" grouping at 100m. I like the feel of them more than the M1A having a pistol grip and they have the adjustable gas system which is good too.



Century did some odd stuff with their rifles, mixing metric & inch parts, and calling it a 'L1A1'...

The end product was a true 'franken-FAL', with a metric reciever (Imbel), an inch lower, and in some cases an inch upper-parts kit as well...
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 7:29:31 PM EDT
I have 2 and enjoy shooting them, Ergos are better on an AR but the FAL uses a real round [] is better for thumping someone with, and are a nice easy shooting .308. Not as accurate as an AR, but they do fine. Stay away from Century FALS tho.
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 7:32:01 PM EDT
I would strongly encourage anyone interested in a FAL to buy a DSA.

If you buy CAI, HESSE, etc. you will simply end up selling it at a loss so you can get a DSA.

It is true you can build a decent one yourself with a good receiver (Imbel, DSA, etc.) and a Steyr kit but for the money you save you won't have a DSA warranty and I don't think that the savings.

The only real reason to build one is if you really know how to do it and enjoy it.
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 7:37:21 PM EDT
Here's my Imbel/G1 build. Did it all myself

Link Posted: 12/21/2005 7:39:49 PM EDT

Originally Posted By mjohn3006:
Yes. Good. Buy.

I paid $380 for mine. But that is on the low side.



... For a true Fabrique Nationale (FN)?

... You got a deal no matter when you bought it!
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 7:55:31 PM EDT

Originally Posted By USGI_45:

Originally Posted By Tomislav:
Unreliable pieces of crap with virtually no aftermarket support and mags are hard to find.




+1



What rock you two been under?? What kind of aftermarket support are you seeking? DSA, makes railed handguards so you bling bling lovers can hand your aftermarket wizzbang shit off of it. Crapco used to make junk for it.
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 8:04:42 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 762minigun2:

Originally Posted By USGI_45:

Originally Posted By Tomislav:
Unreliable pieces of crap with virtually no aftermarket support and mags are hard to find.




+1



What rock you two been under?? What kind of aftermarket support are you seeking? DSA, makes railed handguards so you bling bling lovers can hand your aftermarket wizzbang shit off of it. Crapco used to make junk for it.



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Link Posted: 12/21/2005 8:20:30 PM EDT
Is metric pattern more common than inch pattern?

Link Posted: 12/21/2005 8:23:24 PM EDT

Originally Posted By snipAR_15:

Originally Posted By BigDozer66:
It is the 'Right Arm of the Free World'!

Like all great ARFCOM traditions get more than one!

What kind are you looking at getting?

G1, Izzy, Congo or some other variant?

I love every one of my FAL's!


BigDozer66



What are some good cheap ones?




"Good" and "cheap" don't go together... Get a DSA FAL...
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 8:54:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/21/2005 8:55:27 PM EDT by Eagle374]
guess metric would be more common than inch in the US. L1A1 can use both metric and inch mags
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 9:01:34 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Tomislav:
Unreliable pieces of crap with virtually no aftermarket support and mags are hard to find.






Link Posted: 12/21/2005 10:21:16 PM EDT

Originally Posted By snipAR_15:
Is metric pattern more common than inch pattern?




Metric.

Link Posted: 12/21/2005 10:50:00 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Elite-Soldier:

Originally Posted By Tomislav:
Unreliable pieces of crap with virtually no aftermarket support and mags are hard to find.









Link Posted: 12/21/2005 10:52:53 PM EDT
steyr stg58 kit on imbel receiver

YAY for $5 mags at gunshow!
Link Posted: 12/22/2005 2:29:31 AM EDT
SAR-48 (Imbel) owner here. A well built FAL will serve you well. Mine is consistently prints right at 2-2.5 MOA but you have to overcome the hard trigger. The rifle is very simple, rugged, and easily maintained. Spare parts are easy to find as well. Of all the mags I have, to never paid more than $10 for any and those were some NIW ones I bought but could have found cheaper. Most of my mags are used and gave around $5 each for them.
Link Posted: 12/22/2005 2:41:31 AM EDT
FAL +10, YOU'LL LIKE IT
Link Posted: 12/22/2005 3:54:58 AM EDT
Link Posted: 12/22/2005 4:13:17 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Hawkeye:
I love my DSA.

img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/Hawkeye1/Guns/FAL18.jpg

Awww man that is sharp. I want one!
Link Posted: 12/22/2005 4:17:16 AM EDT

Originally Posted By MadBodhi:
An Fal is a good weapon but your seriously delusional if you think it's better than an M1a.


The M1A is a fine rifle. Among the best .308 battle rifle copies out there. The FAL is a better all-around rifle, IMO.

Praising the FAL does not equal denigrating the M1A.
Link Posted: 12/22/2005 4:19:28 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Dave_A:
The FAL is the most affordable .308 battle rifle you're going to find (in terms of kits), and is fairly easy to assemble when compared with it's other contemporaries...

It's no AR-10, but then again you can't get an AR-10 for $400-500


Agreed. It's better.
Link Posted: 12/22/2005 4:20:49 AM EDT
Link Posted: 12/22/2005 4:22:37 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Hawkeye:


If you have a gun battle in your living room, that camo job would be the shiznit.
Link Posted: 12/22/2005 4:33:04 AM EDT
My FAL came to work with me one day because it was lonely.

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