You can blame the right wing religious nuts that took away womens rights ,that really pissed off the young people, got them out to vote

Such a stupid money grabbing BULLSH*T measure!!

You can blame the right wing religious nuts that took away womens rights ,that really pissed off the young people, got them out to vote

12 years and 23 posts on ARF and you come here to post this?

Wife's family lives near Redmond and we visit often. I go shooting out on BLM land almost every time I'm there since her family's property buts up against it.

So some random sheriff rolls up on me now and I have to prove I've had my mags for X years AND I can be guilty of "importing" illegal firearm accessories?

Just curious since I haven't read this shit

What are you perfectly-accurately insinuating, Donut777?

Two More Eastern Oregon Counties Vote to Join ‘Greater Idaho’

I totally agree. Why the heck would they even being it up before the midterms is beyond me. I know that is why the Demos got it.

This thread is about gun control.  

Stay on topic.

No, you can blame the government that allowed this to happen in the first place. For lack of a better explanation, the government has been forcing us to stand on the sidelines while kids get shot. While communists run rampant and terrorize shop owners. While it's ok to riot, but not ok to go to church, or school, or even to a bar.

While it's not ok to tell the truth.

The framers warned us that the government would eventually do something like this. Government is inherently evil. With all of the tools in our possession to stop this, with the training, the gear, the discipline, and the respect for the law that the lion's share of us hold, the government came out on the side of a bunch of foreign flag waving commies who were allowed to attack the people unabated.

I don't actually believe the government intended to do things that way. I don't think they saw what was coming, and they were pretty much taken by surprise. For what it's worth, I think training is a good idea. I also think that instead of attacking the government, which our foreign flag waving commie buds would love for nothing more than, we should defend the government, broach this subject, and look at it more objectively. After all, democracy in this country is supposed to be representative government, with constraints. The main constraint being the constitution, and the bill of rights.

Something is seriously wrong with this picture. It's not ok to murder kids, or shoppers, or people in church. It's also not ok to murder somebody over a traffic offense. There's no law, no rule of law, that would support that idea. Yet, for some odd reason, it's playing out that way. We need to face that. We need to talk about it, and mostly, we need to do something to stop it. Like it or not, it has fallen to us to talk some sense into these people.

The government wants us disarmed, and they rile up their rabid base of commies with their rhetoric. They intend for this to happen. Maybe not initially, but they've come to support it.

They keep pushing the same policies that have been shown to not work. Being lenient on violent crime, pushing anti-American propaganda in schools, ignoring mental illnesses or even embracing it, and getting people to rely on them to "help" them live comfortably... they support the collapse of morals and culture because it benefits them.

They want more control over our lives, and every time someone murders a bunch of kids they jump with glee and scream "muh gun control" because it helps convince the idiots to rely on daddy government to take care of their problems.

If you speak up, no matter how reasonable your argument or grievances, they lable you as an extremist. If you do your own thing and ignore them, they can choose to gun you down (think Ruby Ridge and Waco). If you support their ideology you're allowed to violently "protest" their opposition, if you don't then just peacefully standing with a sign is labeled domestic terrorism.

The two parties try damned hard to keep anyone running against their ideologies from succeeding, because it threatens their control. And that's all it's about. Power and control.

They hate our guts because we don't want to rely on them.


Yes training is important, but forcing a mandatory training on folks who cannot afford it just prevents them from exercising their rights. Its another way to circumvent the second amendment.

If you have to force training, why not allow firearm training in schools? Teach the value life during the process.

That's one thing that's been missing for a long time. The value of life. All life is sacred, but that teaching has been washed away.

Instead kids learn how to hate based on twisted versions of history. We teach them to hate because someone thinks differently. Yet if you look close, we're not all that different. We're all capable of good and bad. But our .gov controlled schools only teach the bad, because it benefits them.

Dont forget, the commies that support the current regime also work for the regime. It may not have been the case a few decades ago, but it is now.

Human nature makes me sad.

People suck.

I'm so sorry for our brothers in Oregon... these asshole west coast governors have an informal pact to follow the same policies in a variety of issues and areas rather than running their states independently for their people... this means California runs them all essentially... they're all straight up betrayers of our constitutions, both state and federal..

They do. As with everything there are exceptions. Portland is not an exception though.

If they want guns banned so badly, just ban them in the city. At least 87% of us have no reason or desire to go there anyway.

Let them fester in their crime and garbage with no way to defend themselves. Just leave us out of it.

They are related, thus still on topic.

Nothing was taken away...scotus just said it's up to the states.

Nobody gives a flying fuck around baby killing until they started allowing infanticide IOWs late term abortion.

And fuck off DMs and emailing me about it.....fuck faces if you don't like my opinion.

Dumb fuck leftist cunts on ARFCOMS..DM me about this and that.

Fuck off..you are on my ignore for a reason.

As for me...I'm gonna keep doing my thing....
If I'm caught..I'm caught and I'll just show proof..

I've survived Commiefornias SB23 and their nazi gestapo shit at Angeles Shooting range...I still have my receipts from B And B guns in north Hollywood for all of my magazines.

I'll survive this one just fine but I ain't leaving Oregon.

Thats not going to happen here.. the law is UNENFORCABLE and gun shops will even tell you that. They just want to make it hard/impossible for new mags to come in.  Most of our police do not like the leadership anyways.

got thinking today, and man this puts a crimp in concealed carry. Unless you can find a few 10 round magazines.

I can find them, as I CC a G19. But don't want to go out of my way to buy them.

Sheriff Sickler stated

We can't count on the courts. NJ has had this system in place since the 60s and the courts haven't helped us at all.

LOL, blame misplaced.  
If the government ran schools weren't indoctrinating little commies, you might have a point.
But the government keeps on pushing how evil guns are, and parents keep on sacrificing their kids on the alter of government ran public indoctrination camps.
So if you really want to place blame, the parents that send their kids to the government ran schools are the ones you should be pointing at.

Im pretty sure the younger generation isnt thinking.  I want to kill humans in the womb.  If I can't do that I will ban guns.

A lot of sheriffs won't enforce this, the state police will, so fish cops will be cruising the hills looking for people to jack up. Not sure what federal leo like BLM Rangers will do.

OSP is stretched pretty damn thin..as it is.

They are so rich that they left over 300 rounds of 6.5CM brass at my range in Albany.
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BTW they shoot a Sig 716 whatever as their snapper raffle.

I hardly see osp anymore. They used to pull people over for nonexistent driving infractions all the time. Now they rarely do anything here that doesn't involve warrant or 20 over.

They are going to be stretched even thinner with the licensing and training scheme.

Informal nothing they are related by blood and marriage.

Luckily I have many receipts for standard cap mags. But CC does concern me.

Fortunately I carry G27,23,22 and am able to easily get 10 capacity mags for these. I don’t trust our courts should the need arise to “use a 10 rounder” vs. “standard”.  Trial by media seems all the rage.

I trained extensively at Oregon Firearms Academy and am well versed in mag changes.

Gun mag warehouse FWIW

Yeah, I'm doing a lot of thinking on how to handle that.
I have some 10rd G23 mags laying around. Going to use those in a .357 Sig converted G23. Should work for most situations.
There's also the option of not complying, but I'm not admiting to anything on a public internet forum.

Thanks to the two members who corrected me on the "just carry some range gear idea". I really should have read it thoroughly before posting. Been a shitty week.

How do you think us 9mm guys feel. All that useless empty space in the mag well

but the state popo, forest service and medford PD will.

@FZK556

What is the “carry some range gear” idea?

Thanks

Time to break out the 45 USP. Bought it during the ban 96 ish. Came with 10 rounders.

Staties are spread thin already too. More so if they have to rearrange personnel to comply with the mandates of the measure.

I avoid medford as much as possible. I do have a .380 with single stack mags if I have to go.

Mostly leaves forest service to worry about. For me anyway.

That's my fallback option. I regularly carry a 19x and was looking forward to carrying my G45 with an optic this winter.
This is far worse than the 94 AWB. At least this won't survive a court challenge, but it's going to be kind of sketchy until then.
And thanks for you guys keeping this thread going. I'm passing on info to people as fast as I can, this has been a Hell of a good resource.

Gun owners are our own worst enemies

From Oregon Public Broadcasting
What kind of sick fudd logic is this?

Like an idiot, I just skimmed through the bill. I missed the part about "high" cap mags needing to be in a locked box, and thought you could get away with carrying range gear and just saying you were coming/going to the range if you were carrying standard mags.
Smarter members corrected me. Part of the reason I love this place; do something stupid and you'll get called out real quick.

That's just being a retard.

And having shitty taste in concealed carry gear. Even my smallest carry gun holds 12+1.

If you are afraid of being outgunned, it would make more sense to carry MORE ammo. That's why when I go somewhere I don't trust, I carry my G19 with 2 reloads of quality +p hollow points.

I don't see how making it difficult for law abiding folk to purchase firearms and standard capacity mags will stop criminals from carrying "high capacity" mags in their illegally purchased guns

Here in Oregon you can kill your baby right up to birth

Pretty sure there are more kids dying here by abortion than firearms as well

That's my thoughts. If I were afraid of being out gunned you better bet you would see me with an AR or PCC or even belt fed. If I go someplace sketchy I roll with an AR and several mags. That is in addition to the BHP with 17rnd mags I EDC. If I'm carrying a G26 it's gonna be a 12 (10+2) end and a Magpul 20rnd or a factory 33rnd minimum.

God gave us SBRs for our backpacks!

Sadly I ran into a wall doing CQB training and blew the sights off my G19 so I can't carry that for a while now.

And you can load up your truck with hundreds of 30 round mags and there's not one fucking thing anyone can do about.

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exactly, not Constitutional

LOL

I rolled with my 11.5 wedged between the passenger seat and center console during the summer of love. Mag down was a good fit.

A bit of a pain hitting 5th or 6th gear if it sits wrong. But that's because I daily a compact with a stick. Still worth it.

You only need 8 rounds of the lord's caliber

Fucking moron.