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Posted: 6/9/2016 12:40:27 AM EDT






The trial of cesar goodson was to begin thursday, but may be dismissed now, due to a motion to dismiss due to a brady violation.
apparrently, the prosecution did not let the defense know of a 2nd interview with another prisoner being transported with grey.
it was only because the attorney for the other prisoner, saw that the prosecution had not notified the defense of the existance of the 2nd interview, that the attorney approached the court to notify them of the situation.

Many of you may remember that Donta Allen gave a statement to
detectives where he told them he heard Freddie Gray banging his head and
trying to intentionally injure himself.




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However, what was unknown, until two days ago, was another interview
with the prosecution in May 2015, where Donta gave prosecution
investigators another statement during an interview.
During the hidden May 2015 interview Donta Allen was represented by
an attorney named Jack Rubin. Prosecutor Marilyn Mosby never told the
defense of this secondary interview with Donta Allen and his attorney,
Rubin.





After waiting over a year to see if Mosby would provide the interview
to the defense (she didn’t), and noting the trial is scheduled to begin
today, attorney Rubin felt compelled as an officer of the court to
inform the defense there was an additional interview which supported
their client and was adverse to the state’s case.





https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/06/08/baltimore-six-trial-stunning-last-minute-motion-to-dismiss-due-to-severe-brady-violation/#more-117270
copy of motion at site
update - justice prevails again....
motion was denied
the protected special class wins again



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Judge Barry G. Williams denied a defense request to dismiss the
case against Officer Caesar Goodson Jr. after a hearing about whether
prosecutors wrongly withheld discussions they had with a potential
witness, as revealed in newly unsealed documents.




Williams also
ordered prosecutors to produce any other evidence in any of the cases of
the six officers charged in the arrest and death of Freddie Gray
by Monday.







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http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/freddie-gray/bs-md-ci-goodson-day-1-20160609-story.html
so the prosecution hiding evidence for the third time, isn't anything to worry about, even though this is after the prosecution had already said it wouldn't do it again after the first 2 times.
update 7/27 starts bottom page 4
 
Link Posted: 6/9/2016 12:42:36 AM EDT
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MM is a POS and should be tried for malicious prosecution.
Link Posted: 6/9/2016 12:43:35 AM EDT
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Ha!
Link Posted: 6/9/2016 12:44:28 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/9/2016 12:46:38 AM EDT
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lol.

FUCK THIS AMATEUR HOUR BITCH PROSECUTOR.
Link Posted: 6/9/2016 12:48:08 AM EDT
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looks like someone there at that site has scooped the release of this motion, as I don't see any mention of it in some of the stories related to the trial.





this will look pretty bad, if the case gets dismissed, for reason of deliberate judicial manipulation and malfeasance
Link Posted: 6/9/2016 12:58:09 AM EDT
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She did this on purpose and she has probably gotten away with it in trials with less publicity.
Link Posted: 6/9/2016 1:07:22 AM EDT
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She did this on purpose and she has probably gotten away with it in trials with less publicity.
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lol.

FUCK THIS AMATEUR HOUR BITCH PROSECUTOR.


She did this on purpose and she has probably gotten away with it in trials with less publicity.


National attention and the AAA level talent that it attracts tends to expose routine incompetence like this (although I reserve the right to think in this case it is outright malice)... happens to police departments all the time.
Link Posted: 6/9/2016 1:39:37 AM EDT
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Very interesting. I've always thought that Freddie Gray fucked himself up. I hope all officers go free.
Link Posted: 6/9/2016 1:46:23 AM EDT
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Not surprised at all with this worthless BLM prosecutor. I hope she gets prosecuted herself.
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I agree, but she would likely be pardoned by Barry on his way out.
Link Posted: 6/9/2016 1:51:28 AM EDT
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IMO, there's never an excuse for a Brady dismissal.

For fuck's sake, if there's any question at all, give it to the defense.

I guess you guys know that about three of the cop/defendants have just filed suit against Mosby, essentially for malicious prosecution. This will not help.
Link Posted: 6/9/2016 1:54:04 AM EDT
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You could tell from the beginning, that Mosby was in over her head.
Link Posted: 6/9/2016 1:56:32 AM EDT
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So, is this just normal misconduct or special misconduct just for this case in this situation?

Wow.
Link Posted: 6/9/2016 2:00:07 AM EDT
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Time to go re-watch all seasons of The Wire now.
Link Posted: 6/9/2016 2:00:24 AM EDT
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My prediction is that if Mosby can't hang something on Goodson; she's not going to hang anything on any of the six cops.
Link Posted: 6/9/2016 2:02:06 AM EDT
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Prosecution deliberately withholding exculpatory evidence should get a dismissal and a sanction. Needs a hearing before the BAR association. And a brake check for good measure.
Link Posted: 6/9/2016 2:05:42 AM EDT
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You don't prosecute a piece of shit.  You just flush it down the toilet.
Link Posted: 6/9/2016 2:06:14 AM EDT
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Should be dismissed with prejudice.  

Will be given a mistrial and will get dragged out for years...waiting on the publicity to die down.

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That's racist








































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IMO, there's never an excuse for a Brady dismissal.



For fuck's sake, if there's any question at all, give it to the defense.



I guess you guys know that about three of the cop/defendants have just filed suit against Mosby, essentially for malicious prosecution. This will not help.
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Now Goodsen can also sue her for violating his 5th amendment rights.  



 
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She did this on purpose and she has probably gotten away with it in trials with less publicity.
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FUCK THIS AMATEUR HOUR BITCH PROSECUTOR.


She did this on purpose and she has probably gotten away with it in trials with less publicity.





Shitbirds being shitbirds
Link Posted: 6/9/2016 7:46:13 AM EDT
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Moseby was trying to use Gray's death as a springboard to higher office. But her follow through is giving future opponents lots of ammo against her. Hope she chokes on it.

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Link Posted: 6/9/2016 7:47:31 AM EDT
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lol.



FUCK THIS AMATEUR HOUR BITCH PROSECUTOR.




She did this on purpose and she has probably gotten away with it in trials with less publicity.
IN this case there is also the angle of trying to help black lives matter by deliberately prosecuting and throwing what she knows is a bad case to further

 



the agenda of "SEE!! Black people can't get a fair trial in America!!!"
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I don't think any of this is the result of incompetence.






Link Posted: 6/9/2016 7:56:35 AM EDT
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Yeah, isn't that like the first lecture you get in law school?  She should be disbarred and monetarily sanctioned.
Link Posted: 6/9/2016 8:07:26 AM EDT
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Tough sheet for the prosecution.
Link Posted: 6/9/2016 8:09:58 AM EDT
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If she were a white male, she'd be Nifong'ed.

But dat racial privilege...
Link Posted: 6/9/2016 8:12:15 AM EDT
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FPNI
Link Posted: 6/9/2016 8:12:37 AM EDT
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Rubin just scored YUUUUUGE points with the Baltimore PD.  There's nothing like when a criminal defense attorney steps up to save a police officer's bacon to get everyone's attention.  Good for him.  Right is right after all.  
Link Posted: 6/9/2016 8:54:16 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/9/2016 8:56:43 AM EDT
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Treu, but dismissal isn't the proper remedy. The defense knows about the 2d interview now, so at most a continuance might be required to correct the misdeed.
Link Posted: 6/9/2016 9:05:07 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/9/2016 11:45:47 AM EDT
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updated in op and here
update - justice prevails again....
motion was denied
the protected special class wins again









<time datetime="2016-06-09T11:14:00EDT" data-dt="June 9, 2016, 11:14
AM" class="trb_ar_dateline_time"
itemprop="datePublished"></time>
 

   
           
                   
                       
                         
     


Judge Barry G. Williams denied a defense request to dismiss the
case against Officer Caesar Goodson Jr. after a hearing about whether
prosecutors wrongly withheld discussions they had with a potential
witness, as revealed in newly unsealed documents.








Williams also
ordered prosecutors to produce any other evidence in any of the cases of
the six officers charged in the arrest and death of Freddie Gray
by Monday.





.....
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/freddie-gray/bs-md-ci-goodson-day-1-20160609-story.html
so the prosecution hiding evidence for the third time, isn't anything to
worry about, even though this is after the prosecution had already said
it wouldn't do it again after the first 2 times.





edit  - I saw bama put this in the other thread, I'll put this update there, and refer everyone to that thread to consolidate



https://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1875542_Baltimore_cops_sue_State_Attorney_for_malicious_prosecution_in_Freddie_Gray_case.html
 
Link Posted: 6/9/2016 12:05:59 PM EDT
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Along with Obstruction of Justice, Tampering with Evidence, and Contempt of Court.

What's the charge for abusing one's position as a prosecutor?
Link Posted: 6/9/2016 1:56:53 PM EDT
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Along with Obstruction of Justice, Tampering with Evidence, and Contempt of Court.

What's the charge for abusing one's position as a prosecutor?
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MM is a POS and should be tried for malicious prosecution.


Along with Obstruction of Justice, Tampering with Evidence, and Contempt of Court.

What's the charge for abusing one's position as a prosecutor?


Misconduct in public office in Wisconsin. Still waiting for the Milwaukee DA to be charged for going after conservatives.
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Along with Obstruction of Justice, Tampering with Evidence, and Contempt of Court.

What's the charge for abusing one's position as a prosecutor?
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MM is a POS and should be tried for malicious prosecution.


Along with Obstruction of Justice, Tampering with Evidence, and Contempt of Court.

What's the charge for abusing one's position as a prosecutor?

For MM?  Probably election as state attorney general.
Link Posted: 6/10/2016 3:15:07 AM EDT
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Along with Obstruction of Justice, Tampering with Evidence, and Contempt of Court.



What's the charge for abusing one's position as a prosecutor?


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MM is a POS and should be tried for malicious prosecution.




Along with Obstruction of Justice, Tampering with Evidence, and Contempt of Court.



What's the charge for abusing one's position as a prosecutor?


promotion to judge

 
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If they dismiss the case that does not clear the officer. I say proceed and enter in the new evidence of prosecutor misconduct.
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That is the proper course of action.
Link Posted: 6/10/2016 3:19:36 AM EDT
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That judge is a douche bag, should have ended that trail with motion.
Link Posted: 6/10/2016 7:51:50 AM EDT
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+1
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You could tell from the beginning, that Mosby was in over her head merely following orders to promote O'Blamers' racially divisive agenda
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updated in op and here




update - justice prevails again....

motion was denied

the protected special class wins again



<time datetime="2016-06-09T11:14:00EDT" data-dt="June 9, 2016, 11:14 AM" class="trb_ar_dateline_time" itemprop="datePublished"></time>  
                                                                                           Judge Barry G. Williams denied a defense request to dismiss the case against Officer Caesar Goodson Jr. after a hearing about whether prosecutors wrongly withheld discussions they had with a potential witness, as revealed in newly unsealed documents.


Williams also ordered prosecutors to produce any other evidence in any of the cases of the six officers charged in the arrest and death of Freddie Gray by Monday.


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http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/freddie-gray/bs-md-ci-goodson-day-1-20160609-story.html


so the prosecution hiding evidence for the third time, isn't anything to worry about, even though this is after the prosecution had already said it wouldn't do it again after the first 2 times.


edit  - I saw bama put this in the other thread, I'll put this update there, and refer everyone to that thread to consolidate

https://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1875542_Baltimore_cops_sue_State_Attorney_for_malicious_prosecution_in_Freddie_Gray_case.html


 
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Most judges will give a chance for disclosure if there are Brady issues, but this is a bit problematic.
Link Posted: 6/14/2016 2:37:12 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/14/2016 9:24:01 PM EDT
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I don't understand something. Goodson is charged with the depraved heart 2nd degree murder, and 3 counts of manslaughter. How many times did he kill old Freddy?


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Prosecutors did not ask Boyd to describe the manner in which Goodson was driving the van.

On Tuesday, Goodson's attorney did.

Attorney Matthew Fraling asked Boyd whether he saw any evidence that Goodson made an abrupt stop, start or turn while Gray was in the van.

"No, sir," Boyd said.

The testimony stood out in a case that has so far touched little on the prosecution's theory that Goodson gave Gray what's known as a "rough ride" in the van last April.



Goodson is charged with second-degree depraved-heart murder in Gray's death. In his opening statement last week, Chief Deputy State's Attorney Michael Schatzow told Circuit Judge Barry G. Williams that Gray was "injured because he got a 'rough ride'" and "because of the way the officer transported him."

During the trial, prosecutors have introduced a video of Goodson rolling through a stop sign making a wide right turn.


But over four days of testimony from 19 witnesses, prosecutors have presented little other evidence to support the theory.

On Tuesday afternoon, Williams allowed the defense to call two witnesses, both medical experts who questioned the autopsy finding that Gray's death was a homicide.


Even under the prosecution's understanding of the facts, Arden said, he did not believe Gray was injured until the final leg of the van transport — after Goodson and other officers had checked on him multiple times.

Arden said Gray's injuries would have caused immediate paralysis to his lower extremities and "at best" significant impairment to his higher extremities.

Gray would have had a "very difficult time breathing, much less talking," he said.

Prosecutors have alleged Goodson was negligent and careless in not providing medical assistance at the earlier stops. But Arden testified that such attention would not have helped Gray because Gray was not injured at those stops.

The defense also called Dr. Joel Winer, a neurosurgery expert who testified that Gray's injury "isn't something that occurs through evolution," but would have been immediate — leaving Gray "floppy like a dish rag or a jellyfish" and unable to sit up, as Porter has testified he did at the fourth and fifth stops.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/freddie-gray/bs-md-ci-goodson-trial-day4-20160614-story.html
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Prosecutors did not ask Boyd to describe the manner in which Goodson was driving the van.

On Tuesday, Goodson's attorney did.

Attorney Matthew Fraling asked Boyd whether he saw any evidence that Goodson made an abrupt stop, start or turn while Gray was in the van.

"No, sir," Boyd said.

The testimony stood out in a case that has so far touched little on the prosecution's theory that Goodson gave Gray what's known as a "rough ride" in the van last April.



Goodson is charged with second-degree depraved-heart murder in Gray's death. In his opening statement last week, Chief Deputy State's Attorney Michael Schatzow told Circuit Judge Barry G. Williams that Gray was "injured because he got a 'rough ride'" and "because of the way the officer transported him."

During the trial, prosecutors have introduced a video of Goodson rolling through a stop sign making a wide right turn.


But over four days of testimony from 19 witnesses, prosecutors have presented little other evidence to support the theory.

On Tuesday afternoon, Williams allowed the defense to call two witnesses, both medical experts who questioned the autopsy finding that Gray's death was a homicide.


Even under the prosecution's understanding of the facts, Arden said, he did not believe Gray was injured until the final leg of the van transport — after Goodson and other officers had checked on him multiple times.

Arden said Gray's injuries would have caused immediate paralysis to his lower extremities and "at best" significant impairment to his higher extremities.

Gray would have had a "very difficult time breathing, much less talking," he said.

Prosecutors have alleged Goodson was negligent and careless in not providing medical assistance at the earlier stops. But Arden testified that such attention would not have helped Gray because Gray was not injured at those stops.

The defense also called Dr. Joel Winer, a neurosurgery expert who testified that Gray's injury "isn't something that occurs through evolution," but would have been immediate — leaving Gray "floppy like a dish rag or a jellyfish" and unable to sit up, as Porter has testified he did at the fourth and fifth stops.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/freddie-gray/bs-md-ci-goodson-trial-day4-20160614-story.html




What do they have that they think is their ace in the hole?


Is this the official Freddie Gray thread for now?


Makes sense.
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IN this case there is also the angle of trying to help black lives matter by deliberately prosecuting and throwing what she knows is a bad case to further  

the agenda of "SEE!! Black people can't get a fair trial in America!!!"
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lol.

FUCK THIS AMATEUR HOUR BITCH PROSECUTOR.


She did this on purpose and she has probably gotten away with it in trials with less publicity.
IN this case there is also the angle of trying to help black lives matter by deliberately prosecuting and throwing what she knows is a bad case to further  

the agenda of "SEE!! Black people can't get a fair trial in America!!!"


I don't think she's throwing it, but isn't it funny how the left always puts themselves in win-win situations. I know they haven't done any terrorism yet, but he keeps bringing Syrian refugees over. Their kids will be US citizens and vote Democrat, of course. Eventually, when one of them goes sudden Jihad, the left can call for gun control and more domestic spying. Win-win, there is never a downside. Maliciously prosecute BS BLM stuff and you can just further your career/agenda by doubling down on BLM.
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Beyond a reasonable doubt, has already been reached.


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I understand that. I'm trying to think about what they think they've got.
It's like understanding a delusional defendant in reverse.
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