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Entitlement? Its been standard at every school I have attended to allow those who would likely finish their requirements over the summer to walk with the class. View Quote My buddy got to walk at Graduation for his bachelor's degree. He was 1 class shy of graduating and he had already enrolled for the summer. |
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They let you walk for the photo op. you dont actually get a diploma. The dog and pony show is all just a photo op and means nothing. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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my High-School did this to me. I fell a credit short in Government because I missed one day to many. Had to take the class in the summer to get my diploma. They refused to let me walk. Such Bullshit. So they should have let you walk the stage 1 credit short, but what about the guy who was only a half credit behind you? Should he have been permitted to walk too? If so, what about the guy that was just a half credit behind him? The school didn't do anything to you. You are the one who failed to meet the minimum standard before the graduation ceremony. They let you walk for the photo op. you dont actually get a diploma. The dog and pony show is all just a photo op and means nothing. They should probably let the Olympian who finished 4th stand on the podium for the dog and pony photo op because, you know, it doesn't really matter. To the student that failed to meet the minimum standard it probably doesn't mean much or they would have met the standard, but to the students that DID meet the standard it is the distinction between being a winner and being a loser. |
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Graduating classes are organized into years that students graduate. With that being said, if she is really 1/2 credit short, there are options for the school to have her make up for it. I'm guessing there is more to the story here. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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“It’s nothing against the class of 2017,” said Krueger, “but I want to walk with my class.” Graduating classes are organized into years that students graduate. With that being said, if she is really 1/2 credit short, there are options for the school to have her make up for it. I'm guessing there is more to the story here. There is, I've seen several videos of girls in those situations. |
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My middle school gym teacher taught me that there is an exception to every rule. I had 21 credits at the end of my senior year at a school that requires 24 credits to graduate. I had transferred in at about the halfway point in the year and every other school I had attended only required 21 credits. I was granted a waiver and graduated on time with my class without having to petition the administration. Hell, we had autistic kids that only ever want to school for half days and didn't do much more than art classes that also got their diplomas on time. I understand that their diplomas will likely never mean anything (I don't intend to sound mean or rude), but it is an exception nontheless. Life and it's rules aren't quite as black and white as some of you seem to think. In the one cop thread over the last few days a LEO told us he can use his discression in anything but felonies and DV. Im not siding with the girl or the administration, I dont care enough nor do I have a horse in the race, but merely want to point out the fact that life is not so clear cut and dry. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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“It’s not that she hasn’t done the work, it’s medical,” said Gina Sheridan, Hailey’s mom, “it’s an exception.” You either finished, or you didn't, there's no in between. My middle school gym teacher taught me that there is an exception to every rule. I had 21 credits at the end of my senior year at a school that requires 24 credits to graduate. I had transferred in at about the halfway point in the year and every other school I had attended only required 21 credits. I was granted a waiver and graduated on time with my class without having to petition the administration. Hell, we had autistic kids that only ever want to school for half days and didn't do much more than art classes that also got their diplomas on time. I understand that their diplomas will likely never mean anything (I don't intend to sound mean or rude), but it is an exception nontheless. Life and it's rules aren't quite as black and white as some of you seem to think. In the one cop thread over the last few days a LEO told us he can use his discression in anything but felonies and DV. Im not siding with the girl or the administration, I dont care enough nor do I have a horse in the race, but merely want to point out the fact that life is not so clear cut and dry. It's one thing to ask for an exception to be made. It's another thing to bitch about it when you're denied that exception. If she wanted to ensure that she could walk at graduation, rather than relying on an exception to be made for her to do so, she should have completed the requirements. |
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Entitlement? Its been standard at every school I have attended to allow those who would likely finish their requirements over the summer to walk with the class. Not at my HS. My buddy was half credit short. Graduated the next year. But muh feels!!! Exactly. |
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Quoted: I want to walk with her. Or at least share the guest of honor position at the party her mom is throwing for her. I realize I don't go to school with her and it's not supposed to be my party, and honestly, I never completed high school. I'm just asking for a exception. View Quote Can I come with you.? I finished High School, got some sort of Diploma, but we did not have any sort of "Graduation Ceremony" as is custom here. Shit, you just cleaned out your locker, waved to the maintenance crew, and out the door. Get a job, go to College, whatever. So, I feel specul, can I go to graduation too? We could go shooting after. And then some drinking... |
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I owed something like $20 to my tech college and they told me that I could walk, but would get a blank piece of paper. I told them to get screwed, paid my $20 and took my diploma. I didn't give a $hit about walking.
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Krueger and her mom say this is their final plea before they move on to another option.
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Maybe if she spent less time choosing her tattoo, and more time working with the school on getting that 1/2 credit, she would be on that stage.
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So they should have let you walk the stage 1 credit short, but what about the guy who was only a half credit behind you? Should he have been permitted to walk too? If so, what about the guy that was just a half credit behind him? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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my High-School did this to me. I fell a credit short in Government because I missed one day to many. Had to take the class in the summer to get my diploma. They refused to let me walk. Such Bullshit. So they should have let you walk the stage 1 credit short, but what about the guy who was only a half credit behind you? Should he have been permitted to walk too? If so, what about the guy that was just a half credit behind him? What if all your friends are a year older and you self-identify as a person with enough credits to graduate? Are people such hateful bogota that they would deny you a proper graduation? |
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It's one thing to ask for an exception to be made. It's another thing to bitch about it when you're denied that exception. If she wanted to ensure that she could walk at graduation, rather than relying on an exception to be made for her to do so, she should have completed the requirements. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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“It’s not that she hasn’t done the work, it’s medical,” said Gina Sheridan, Hailey’s mom, “it’s an exception.” You either finished, or you didn't, there's no in between. My middle school gym teacher taught me that there is an exception to every rule. I had 21 credits at the end of my senior year at a school that requires 24 credits to graduate. I had transferred in at about the halfway point in the year and every other school I had attended only required 21 credits. I was granted a waiver and graduated on time with my class without having to petition the administration. Hell, we had autistic kids that only ever want to school for half days and didn't do much more than art classes that also got their diplomas on time. I understand that their diplomas will likely never mean anything (I don't intend to sound mean or rude), but it is an exception nontheless. Life and it's rules aren't quite as black and white as some of you seem to think. In the one cop thread over the last few days a LEO told us he can use his discression in anything but felonies and DV. Im not siding with the girl or the administration, I dont care enough nor do I have a horse in the race, but merely want to point out the fact that life is not so clear cut and dry. It's one thing to ask for an exception to be made. It's another thing to bitch about it when you're denied that exception. If she wanted to ensure that she could walk at graduation, rather than relying on an exception to be made for her to do so, she should have completed the requirements. I agree with you, but I also have first hand experience with a lot of school administrations that deserved every headache they've had to deal with, too. I just don't have the capacity to care about either of the parties involved or develop feelings either way. I just wanted to share my personal experience with some of the absolutists' we have here for some context and consideration. |
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I have no problem with not letting her walk. I also recommend skipping the stupid ceremony.
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I don't think she necessarily feels entitled. I think she just wants to share the event with the people she spent the last three (or more) years of her life with.
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I was denied graduation TWICE.
My whole life, I was taught Math at home by my father (Structural Engineer), because it was fun to me, and he liked teaching me as much as my mind could handle. We learnd several weeks and weeks ahead of my class every year. Eventually, the slow pace of the class became SO BORING - In 4th grade I was tested heavily due to boredom and disciplinary issues resulting from my boredom in class. In Math & Science I tested 2 years ahead of my class by the start of 5th grade. So... In 5th grade, I'd take 50% of my classes with friends my own age, then I'd take 1 class with "Special" kids with advanced intellect, and then I'd walk 4 blocks to the high school to take Trigonometry. I "tested out" of Algebra 1 & 2, and Pre-Calculus. I got straight A's, and took high school Science, AP Chemistry, Trigonometry, etc... While still in 5th & 6th grade. I was humiliated regularly by th 7th to 10th graders. They bullied me relentlessly! As I went into high school, I finished 10th grade, and ALMOST had enough credits to graduate... I requested 2 summer school classes so I could graduate - I was denied. School didn't want to lose out on 2 YEARS of federal funding! SO, I showed up and took one semester to finish out the last 2 classes needed for graduation! To fill in all the "down time" in 11th grade I also took Welding, Small Engine Repair, Machine Shop (Mill & Lathe, etc.), and I took 2 classes at the Tech College under Post Secondary Enrollment Option (PSEO), so I was getting college credit in 11th grade. After that 1st Semester in 11th grade - I requested approval to Graduate. - Request DENIED. School didn't want to lose out on Federal Funding! They said that since "I did not take Algebra 1, Algebra 2, and Pre-Calculus" (I tested out of them in 5th & 6th GRADE!!!) that I MUST take those course... They conveniently SCHEDULED those courses so that I could only take ONE course per semester! Meaning, I'd be stuck in that high school ANOTHER 1.5 YEARS and graduate with the rest of my "class" that ridiculed me and bullied me relentlessly! MU@#$ F@#$ FSD@#$LK:J@@T(*$@HJKL:N:K!!!! So, I continued taking Welding, Machining, Foundry (Sand Casting Aluminum), and Post Secondary college courses while in High School - and I was held behind and stuck in HIGH SCHOOL for another 1.5 years. It ***REALLY*** pissed me off at the time, but now that I work in a manufacturing field, my experience machining, stamping, sand casting, etc... Has all been incredibly beneficial to me from a technical / engineering perspective! You never know how life and fates will play out. |
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Entitlement? Its been standard at every school I have attended to allow those who would likely finish their requirements over the summer to walk with the class. View Quote I agree with this. a half credit she can do over the summer. this is a standard practice not an fsa thing. a friend of mine who is completing an engineering phd at a top 10 school is walking this month even though he isn't defending his thesis until the summer (possibly later). |
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Holy fucking entitlement!!! http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/front-range/thornton/district-denies-senior-with-learning-disability-the-chance-to-walk-during-graduation-ceremony THORNTON, Colo. - A Mapleton district senior won’t be able to graduate or walk with her class just a half a credit short of meeting requirements. “It’s not like I’m asking to graduate this year,” said Hailey Krueger, who goes to the Mapleton Expeditionary School of the Arts in Thornton. “I’m just asking to walk with my class.” Krueger has epilepsy and this school year she learned she also has a learning disability. She admits her grades have gone down, along with missing school whenever she has seizures. However, with just half a credit short of meeting the requirements, she doesn’t understand why she can’t at least participate with the rest of her class as she works to complete her senior year. “It’s not that she hasn’t done the work, it’s medical,” said Gina Sheridan, Hailey’s mom, “it’s an exception.” A spokesperson issued the following statement to Denver7 through email regarding the situation: “We have a Board of Education policy (IKFB) which clearly states that only students who have completed their graduation requirements can take part in the graduation ceremony. We want all of our students to be successful, so as soon as they complete their required credits, they can graduate. The student has the option to take part in the graduation ceremony with the class of 2017 if she has completed enough credits at that time.” “It’s nothing against the class of 2017,” said Krueger, “but I want to walk with my class.” Her mom has written letters to the district, including doctor’s notes, and sought advice from the U.S. Department of Justice Civil Rights Division regarding the American Disabilities Act. “I’m not asking that she graduate,” said Sheridan, “I’m not asking that they let go of the half a credit, we’re just asking to let her walk on stage like any other teenager.” When asked whether Krueger would walk with the class of 2017, she said she isn’t sure, especially because she plans to complete her credit requirements by next fall and then head to Grand Junction for college. Krueger and her mom say this is their final plea before they move on to another option. “When she gets her diploma in October we’re going to throw her our own graduation party and our own graduation ceremony if she doesn’t get to walk ,” said Sheridan. View Quote 1/2 a credit short, and its not even a real school? Enjoy being a stripper! |
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jesus fucking christ. stop complaining. go to credit recovery or aventa and complete your credits. then go walk with your class. it's literally that easy.
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Am I the only one who finds it strange that she wasn't able to get that half credit on weekends + after school + extra work assignments?
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A friend of mine had neglected to take his state mandated english equivalency exam
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Boo fucking Hoo!! My son pulled the same shit last year. Fucked himself over because he didn't finish his online class. Thought he "did good enough" to get a passing grade. Course required completion, then it was graded. He's also too damned smart to listen to his parents that told him he fucked up, deal with it.
He had to take a summer school class at the "adult re-education center" and then walk at the "Rainbow Graduation" ceremony where all the schools from our district walk together in robes from their respective school. There was one tense moment. I thought I was going to have to blade at one bitch with the school when she said he couldn't graduate because it was the "Adult Education Center" where he completed the credit. Showed her the paperwork from the school that directed students to go there and told her to STFU and mind her own business. |
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Putting up a big stink to get a stupid piece of paper on a wooden platform?
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I can understand the sentiment of wanting to walk with the people you've spent the last 12 or more years of school with. I see a big difference between a student who is a half credit short due to medical problems vs some dumb shit with sophomore or junior credits on graduation day. If it were up to me I'd let her walk but then again my diploma came in the mail so I don't really care either way.
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my High-School did this to me. I fell a credit short in Government because I missed one day to many. Had to take the class in the summer to get my diploma. They refused to let me walk. Such Bullshit. View Quote So you repeatedly skipped school and flunked your class and did not meat the requirements to graduate and it's the SCHOOL'S fault they wouldn't let you graduate? Hell, my school was retarded and fucked up my schedule EVERY semester, by that I mean they would "forget" to schedule half my classes then run out when I'de try to get it fixed. My "class" for a couple of semesters was helping the janitors because they ran out of seats in every possible class. How the fuck do you "forget" to schedule a students classes, and make the same mistake, with the same student, every single semester? But despite all that I STILL graduated on time. So that tells me you were what? A D average and flunked half your classes? My schedule was crap and I was harassed by the ghetto rat punks the whole time yet I still managed to get good grades and graduate like I was supposed to, what's your excuse? |
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My niece has severe learning disabilities. Low IQ certainly and diagnosed with mental retardation Now lives in a trailer next to her parents house. Will never be able to function independently Of course, struggled through school. But she was, by gosh, there every day, tried her best. Hour bus ride there. Hour bus ride back Never in trouble. Never missed a day. Meek and horribly shy Poor thing has absolutely no self esteem due to her limitations But by law she HAD to attend. They kept passing her through to the next grade Found out after 12 yrs of this that they wouldn't let her graduate I think for students with THOSE type of disabilities, they should participate in the ceremonies Maybe put some kind of grade on the diploma View Quote A diploma is not a participation trophy, you either meet the requirements or you don't. It sounds like she worked hard and I applaud her for that, but as you say it was just a legal thing and makes no difference, she did her part, that is all. You don't get a diploma just for showing up, you have to pass. If she can get a diploma then what about the next person who simularly failed the requirements do they get one too? How about the next person? Why even bother showing up and trying if they are just giving out diplomas regardless? The diploma would become meaningless. |
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I finished high school a year early and had 30 college credits to my name before ever donning the cap and gown. There is virtually zero excuse to not graduating with the number of credits required. On the other hand... A girl I knows completely retarded, vegetative state sister (Rett Syndrome), "graduated" with her and walked. Seeing as she cannot speak and demonstrates zero learning capability- I'm not sure what she accomplished while "in school". Public school is such a sham that if she has intentions to finish- I don't see the harm. High school is an exceptionally meaningless circle jerk anymore that means next to nothing in the real world. I didn't even want to go to my graduation because I thought the celebration of the mediocre was stupid, but was forced because my mother would have thrown a fit had I not walked. |
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I didn't go to my HS graduation. I hated every goddamned motherfucking second in that place, from the other students who bullied me to the teachers who would grade according to how much they liked you to the dipshit administrator who put me in a week of ISS because I needed to change my pad and the sub wouldn't let me go to the bathroom to do so (and so I ran to the bathroom anyway). The second I learned I never had to go back, I didn't.
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She is an Honorary PhD for organizational skills in her future. People with more debilitating issues than she has, have done more.
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Quoted: I agree. Don't give her the leather bound folder with her diploma in it yet though. Pin this on her gown. http://gretachristina.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341bf68b53ef0148c6912f37970c-800wi View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: They should let her walk. I agree. Don't give her the leather bound folder with her diploma in it yet though. Pin this on her gown. http://gretachristina.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341bf68b53ef0148c6912f37970c-800wi It's high school. Most of the schools in my area let the dumb kids who need an extra summer walk with everyone else. It's really not a big deal, especially for someone with documented health issues and is only 1/2 a credit short. |
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My sister in law walked even though she was flunking out at UCSD. Even got a big graduation party thrown for her.
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Entitlement? Its been standard at every school I have attended to allow those who would likely finish their requirements over the summer to walk with the class. I'm on board with this comment. You have a student with a significant medical condition who needs a half credit to graduate. It does not seem unreasonable to allow her to walk during the graduation ceremony. I agree under the circumstances. If the kid was just a douche, no love. |
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Who the hell wants to? It's a fucking joke, I skipped my college graduation because college was a joke too.
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my High-School did this to me. I fell a credit short in Government because I missed one day to many. Had to take the class in the summer to get my diploma. They refused to let me walk. Such Bullshit. View Quote No. It is not called bullshit. They are called requirements. You either meet the requirements or you do not meet the requirements. 9.5 is not 10. 10 is 10. Pull your big girl panties up and deal with it. This is a shining example of why we are in the sad shape we are in as a nation today. We are no longer in the age of reason. We are now in the age of feelings and "micro aggression" where everyone is a victim... |
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you can literally make up an entire semester's worth of credits in a week using computer based credit recovery
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I went to an ABC,F High school. Meaning there was no D you got a C or you failed. Lots of kids didn't make the grade and were pushed on to other schools. The minimum credits to graduate basically allowed you to fail a class or two every semester though. So it took quite a bit not to make it.
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Entitlement? Its been standard at every school I have attended to allow those who would likely finish their requirements over the summer to walk with the class. View Quote same here. We had three kids who were not quite done who had to take a single credit of summer school to finish that all walked with us. They got the little leather binder, but no diploma inside was all. Was not a big deal, and I don't see why they are making it one. Just let her walk with the rest since it's a medical issue. |
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You did not meet the requirements for graduation so you did not graduate with your class, and therefore you were not allowed the privilege of participating in the graduation ceremony. Yeah, such bullshit. Want to guess why schools have to draw lines regarding the number of days missed or number of credits required? Do you know that there are actually students that graduate with more than the minimum number of credits required? Do you know there are students that have enough foresight to not wait until the last minute before they address a problem and then expect special accommodations for their lack of planning? If they let this student walk in the ceremony, will she wear a cap and gown like the rest? What does that say to the rest of the class that actually had their shit together? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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my High-School did this to me. I fell a credit short in Government because I missed one day to many. Had to take the class in the summer to get my diploma. They refused to let me walk. Such Bullshit. You did not meet the requirements for graduation so you did not graduate with your class, and therefore you were not allowed the privilege of participating in the graduation ceremony. Yeah, such bullshit. Want to guess why schools have to draw lines regarding the number of days missed or number of credits required? Do you know that there are actually students that graduate with more than the minimum number of credits required? Do you know there are students that have enough foresight to not wait until the last minute before they address a problem and then expect special accommodations for their lack of planning? If they let this student walk in the ceremony, will she wear a cap and gown like the rest? What does that say to the rest of the class that actually had their shit together? When they made it clear I couldn't walk I didn't argue it. I drove to Chicago and partied all night with another friend who didnt get to walk. 20 years later I have a successful business built from scratch built by Obama/Government.. [WRONG].and never thought of it again until I read this thread. (sorta - my son graduates in two weeks and I was glad to know I would see him walk - that may have been the only other time this issue hit my mind) |
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So you repeatedly skipped school and flunked your class and did not meat the requirements to graduate and it's the SCHOOL'S fault they wouldn't let you graduate? Hell, my school was retarded and fucked up my schedule EVERY semester, by that I mean they would "forget" to schedule half my classes then run out when I'de try to get it fixed. My "class" for a couple of semesters was helping the janitors because they ran out of seats in every possible class. How the fuck do you "forget" to schedule a students classes, and make the same mistake, with the same student, every single semester? But despite all that I STILL graduated on time. So that tells me you were what? A D average and flunked half your classes? My schedule was crap and I was harassed by the ghetto rat punks the whole time yet I still managed to get good grades and graduate like I was supposed to, what's your excuse? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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my High-School did this to me. I fell a credit short in Government because I missed one day to many. Had to take the class in the summer to get my diploma. They refused to let me walk. Such Bullshit. So you repeatedly skipped school and flunked your class and did not meat the requirements to graduate and it's the SCHOOL'S fault they wouldn't let you graduate? Hell, my school was retarded and fucked up my schedule EVERY semester, by that I mean they would "forget" to schedule half my classes then run out when I'de try to get it fixed. My "class" for a couple of semesters was helping the janitors because they ran out of seats in every possible class. How the fuck do you "forget" to schedule a students classes, and make the same mistake, with the same student, every single semester? But despite all that I STILL graduated on time. So that tells me you were what? A D average and flunked half your classes? My schedule was crap and I was harassed by the ghetto rat punks the whole time yet I still managed to get good grades and graduate like I was supposed to, what's your excuse? Good for you. Maybe you should have learned to fucking read. You assume a lot. Its not hard to get A's and B's in Highschool. Shit- I could have went two days a week and still had a B average. It was a attendance thing only.I didn't complain but still felt it was bullshit. I misjudged my missed days and it bit me. I can guarantee you not one person in my class would have cared if they let me walk- and then received my Diploma after retaking the class and making the hours. I had passed the class - it was high school government/constitution, just missed one day to many. |
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What a joke let the girl walk. My school let anyone walk at commencement ID they finished, or were projected to finish from Dec-Aug.
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