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He's hard up for money but is going to poetenially purchase a firearm....????  What am I missing......

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This is not that uncommon.

1) Pay FFL for firearm and transfer fee.

2) Have FFL ship to FFL in appropriate state

3) Recipient fills out background check

4) If it clears FFL transfers firearm

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Not legal. Don't do it.

There is a supreme court case about this

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Sounds like a variation of the fake check deposit scam but upgraded to include several violations of federal firearms laws. So goodbye to that retard, after you report him to authorities for trying to run an illegal scam.

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A guy is trying to work a trade deal with me, but is a little hard on cash right now. One idea was that he could potentially purchase a firearm for me at a local shop. But, he's in another state.  Now, it would be for me, no selling off or anything like that. But in my mind, this still sounds like a straw man sort of thing.

Can someone confirm or deny the legality of this?

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Not legal. Don't do it.

There is a supreme court case about this

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definitely a straw purchase. He is buying it for the sole purpose to give/transfer to you.

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He's hard up for money but is going to poetenially purchase a firearm....????  What am I missing......

Quoted:  I don't believe an FFL is going to accept payment from one person but transfer the firearm to another person. It would be viewed as a straw purchase.

Also, you would be lying on question 11(a) as you are NOT the actual buyer of the firearm if I understand the original post correctly.

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How could he purchase it if he is low on cash???? He could buy gift cards and give them to you or buy you a gun wherever he resides and send it to your local dealer.

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definitely a straw purchase. He is buying it for the sole purpose to give/transfer to you.

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So the guy trading the gun does not fill out a 4473. Simply pays for it and has it drop shipped from the distributor to the OP's ffl. He is therefore not buying the gun for himself is he? And if not, no strawman.
 

Quoted:  If the money comes from the other guy then the OP can't mark yes on the question that asks if he is the actual buyer.

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So on the same note (kinda) how does one buy a gun for a Christmas gift or whatever? Does it make the question on the 4473 that asks if you are the actuall transferee a lie?

Questions have arisen concerning the
lawfulness of firearms purchases from
licensees by persons who use a "straw
purchaser" (another person) to acquire
the firearms. Specifically, the actual
buyer uses the straw purchaser to execute
the Form 4473 purporting to show
that the straw purchaser is the actual
purchaser of the firearm. In some instances,
a straw purchaser is used because
the actual purchaser is prohibited
from acquiring the firearm. That is to
say, the actual purchaser is a felon or is
within one of the other prohibited categories
of persons who may not lawfully
acquire firearms or is a resident of a
State other than that in which the licensee's
business premises is located.
Because of his or her disability, the person
uses a straw purchaser who is not
prohibited from purchasing a firearm
from the licensee. In other instances,
neither the straw purchaser nor the actual
purchaser is prohibited from acquiring
the firearm.

Above paragraph does not apply to OP

In both instances, the straw purchaser
violates Federal law by making
false statements on Form 4473 to the
licensee with respect to the identity of
the actual purchaser of the firearm, as
well as the actual purchaser's residence
address and date of birth. The actual
purchaser who utilized the straw purchaser
to acquire a firearm has unlawfully
aided and abetted or caused the
making of the false statements. The
licensee selling the firearm under these
circumstances also violates Federal law
if the licensee is aware of the false
statements on the form. It is immaterial
that the actual purchaser and the straw
purchaser are residents of the State in
which the licensee's business premises
is located, are not prohibited from receiving
or possessing firearms, and
could have lawfully purchased firearms
from the licensee.

Above paragraph does not apply to OP since the buyer is not using OP's information to fill out the form

An example of an illegal straw purchase
is as follows: Mr. Smith asks Mr.
Jones to purchase a firearm for Mr.
Smith. Mr. Smith gives Mr. Jones the
money for the firearm. If Mr. Jones fills
out Form 4473, he violates the law by
falsely stating that he is the actual buyer
of the firearm. Mr. Smith also violates
the law because he has unlawfully aided
and abetted or caused the making of
false statements on the form.

Above paragraph does not apply, as OP did not ask the buyer to buy the gun for him using OP's money.

Where a person purchases a firearm
with the intent of making a gift of the
firearm to another person, the person
making the purchase is indeed the true
purchaser. There is no straw purchaser
in these instances. In the above example,
if Mr. Jones had bought a firearm
with his own money to give to Mr. Smith
as a birthday present, Mr. Jones could
lawfully have completed Form 4473.
The use of gift certificates would also
not fall within the category of straw purchases.
The person redeeming the gift
certificate would be the actual purchaser
of the firearm and would be properly
reflected as such in the dealer's records.

This would apply to OP.  The other guy is gifting a firearm to the OP as a form of payment.  Buyer fills out 4473 when he buys it.  As it is shipped across state lines, OP then fills out 4473 on his end.  ATF is happy...both parties completed the necessary paperwork and background checks.  OP answers YES on 4473 - 11(a) since he is the actual transferee of the firearm.