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Any chance you can link those videos because that is not at all what we were told. Don't get me wrong I think it should be that way but many of the stores here that is a absolute no go.
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Quoted: But in OP's scenario he is filling out 4473 while other guy pays for it.
That's fine, as long as OP is the one ending up w/ the gun. A straw purchase would occur if OP filled out the 4473, the other guy paid for it, and the OTHER GUY ended up w/ the gun.
In ATF's own instructional videos for gun dealers, they explicitly state it's ok for someone else to pay @ the register, as long as the person who's ending up w/ the gun did the 4473.
Any chance you can link those videos because that is not at all what we were told. Don't get me wrong I think it should be that way but many of the stores here that is a absolute no go.
Sorry, they were training videos I had to watch in order to work behind the gun counter. They were marked BATFE & were part of their "Don't lie for the other guy" program, as far as I know. We regularly allow other customers to pay for the gun that someone else filled out the 4473 on. Usually husbands and wives, but also father/children, etc.
It's a no go for me if it's clear that the gun is for X, and Y says he'll fill out the paper work. If it's for X, X fills out the paperwork, and I don't care if Y, Z, or K pays.
I'm not understanding why OP's debtor doesn't just give the cash to OP, and let OP do w/ it what he likes. However, as I understand it, if X & OP are in the same state, there's no problem @ all if OP fills out the 4473 & receives the gun, and X pays for it. OP is the actual transferee @ that point.