Posted: 10/16/2015 11:47:25 PM EDT
| Ok, so say you strike a deal, or are trying to negotiate one with a buyer/seller and they stop responding. How long after communication ceased would you wait to move on to another buyer/seller? |
| Per the rules or out of courtesy? If a deal was never finalized, you are not obligated to sell. One buyer could be negotiating a lower price when someone else agrees to your asking price in the ad. As long as you haven't made a commitment to the first guy, you could sell it to the second guy. It's your decision. |
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It's just my opinion, so you know what that's worth, but until the buyer or the seller states unequivocally "I'll take it" or substantially similar, either is free to bail out at any point.
If you're negotiating with somebody and they suddenly stop communicating, wait as long as you feel comfortable waiting... as long or as short as that may be, because see above. |
| Lol you guys are great. So here's the situation. I have a object that I wish to trade, with cash, for his item. He said that he valued my item at a lower price than I valued it at. I counter offered with a cash number and a different value for my item. He hasn't replied in 12 hours. I have found another deal to sell my item at an attractive price, but I want to be courteous to the person I dealt with first. If I were to move on and sell my item to person 2, would I be in the wrong? |
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I would say until there is an agreement, it is still for sale. For example, if you have an item up for $500 and you and buyer "A" are going back and forth on price and partial trade. A little while later, buyer "B" says he will "take it" for full asking cash price of $500. it is up to you as the seller who you accept as the buyer. But if you agreed with one buyer and committed to selling and later change your mind because another offer came up, you are in the wrong. as far as EE rules, I am not sure. But as a gentleman you are in the wrong |
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Lol you guys are great. So here's the situation. I have a object that I wish to trade, with cash, for his item. He said that he valued my item at a lower price than I valued it at. I counter offered with a cash number and a different value for my item. He hasn't replied in 12 hours. I have found another deal to sell my item at an attractive price, but I want to be courteous to the person I dealt with first. If I were to move on and sell my item to person 2, would I be in the wrong? Right wrong or indifferent, you'll probably get banned if you go to someone else. Contact staff and see what they want you to do. |
| If a deal hasn't actually been struck you are free to talk with others, I have had way to many people drop off the face of the earth, they ask for pics and maybe one other question and bam they are gone, not even a courtesy Thanks or let me consider it nothing. |
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Not from what I was told by mods. It doesn't work here like it does on other forums. One can post an "I'll take it" and seller can sell to someone else. That was per mods here. Quoted:
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"I'll take it" means you have a deal...... Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Not from what I was told by mods. It doesn't work here like it does on other forums. One can post an "I'll take it" and seller can sell to someone else. That was per mods here. Yup. Those words are simply a commonly used phrase for an offer to buy. There is no "I'll take it" rule here as some seem to think. Those three words are specifically NOT mentioned in the EE Rules. The offer has to be accepted, and price/payment/shipping terms agreed upon. Also, the absolute best place to get solid EE related advice is in the Comments & Questions forum in the Equipment Exchange. There you will get answers quickly from the EE mods and Staff, and others who know the EE culture very well. 
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If it were me, I would send a new message to him (assuming no deal has been made and from what you say, it doesn't seem like there is a deal) withdrawing my offer and thanking him for his time. Move on to the new guy once your offer has been revoked.
Might wanna run that by an EE mod though |
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Lol you guys are great. So here's the situation. I have a object that I wish to trade, with cash, for his item. He said that he valued my item at a lower price than I valued it at. I counter offered with a cash number and a different value for my item. He hasn't replied in 12 hours. I have found another deal to sell my item at an attractive price, but I want to be courteous to the person I dealt with first. If I were to move on and sell my item to person 2, would I be in the wrong? after 24 hours of no response i would move on. i understand people work and sleep but if you really want something you would find time to respond. i would let buyer #2 know that you are waiting 24 hours for buyer #1 to respond. i usually say ill take and ask for your address to get out payment in the same email. i also send payment the next day for money order or if its paypal i send it right away. i dont like stringing along people. |
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If it were me, I would send a new message to him (assuming no deal has been made and from what you say, it doesn't seem like there is a deal) withdrawing my offer and thanking him for his time. Move on to the new guy once your offer has been revoked. Might wanna run that by an EE mod though That's sound advice, and exactly what we tell people. |
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Yup. Those words are simply a commonly used phrase for an offer to buy. There is no "I'll take it" rule here as some seem to think. Those three words are specifically NOT mentioned in the EE Rules. The offer has to be accepted, and price/payment/shipping terms agreed upon. Also, the absolute best place to get solid EE related advice is in the Comments & Questions forum in the Equipment Exchange. There you will get answers quickly from the EE mods and Staff, and others who know the EE culture very well.
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"I'll take it" means you have a deal...... Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Not from what I was told by mods. It doesn't work here like it does on other forums. One can post an "I'll take it" and seller can sell to someone else. That was per mods here. Yup. Those words are simply a commonly used phrase for an offer to buy. There is no "I'll take it" rule here as some seem to think. Those three words are specifically NOT mentioned in the EE Rules. The offer has to be accepted, and price/payment/shipping terms agreed upon. Also, the absolute best place to get solid EE related advice is in the Comments & Questions forum in the Equipment Exchange. There you will get answers quickly from the EE mods and Staff, and others who know the EE culture very well.
I didn't take the OP's question as asking about the site's rules but rather about how we handle our stuff. I never stated the site had any "I'll take it" rule or anything like that. My personal rule is first solid taker gets it. I've had offers for more than what I negotiated down to come in after an "I'll take it" but I won't sell to them. I understand the actual rules of the site and the way they handle deals but that's not what OP asked about. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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"I'll take it" means you have a deal. Until you have a deal it is fair game to all interested parties. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile "I'll take it" means that YOU have committed to a deal. Until both parties have reached an agreement, the deal is not complete. This particular situation sounds like it might be in something of a grey area. If you aren't even sure whether an agreement has been reached, I'd definitely recommend sending an IM/email and getting clarification before backing out. |
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"I'll take it" means that YOU have committed to a deal. Until both parties have reached an agreement, the deal is not complete. This particular situation sounds like it might be in something of a grey area. If you aren't even sure whether an agreement has been reached, I'd definitely recommend sending an IM/email and getting clarification before backing out. Quoted:
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"I'll take it" means you have a deal. Until you have a deal it is fair game to all interested parties. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile "I'll take it" means that YOU have committed to a deal. Until both parties have reached an agreement, the deal is not complete. This particular situation sounds like it might be in something of a grey area. If you aren't even sure whether an agreement has been reached, I'd definitely recommend sending an IM/email and getting clarification before backing out. lol, welcome to the new and improved ee @ arfcom OP, where you are held hostage when a buyer/seller goes dark on you. A'int it grand. |
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Quoted: Personally, I think the EE should be reserved for paying members only. It would stop a lot of the bullshit that fo's on there.  |
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So much bad information in this thread. Everyone should click on the orange "Equipment Exchange" button on the upper right corner and go to the "Comments and Questions" and/or the "Negative Feedback ONLY" sections to see how the EE really works.
ETA: bennnn is an EE Moderator and joker581 is Site Staff. I would listen to their advice. |
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lol, welcome to the new and improved ee @ arfcom OP, where you are held hostage when a buyer/seller goes dark on you. A'int it grand. Quoted:
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"I'll take it" means you have a deal. Until you have a deal it is fair game to all interested parties. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile "I'll take it" means that YOU have committed to a deal. Until both parties have reached an agreement, the deal is not complete. This particular situation sounds like it might be in something of a grey area. If you aren't even sure whether an agreement has been reached, I'd definitely recommend sending an IM/email and getting clarification before backing out. lol, welcome to the new and improved ee @ arfcom OP, where you are held hostage when a buyer/seller goes dark on you. A'int it grand. Who is being held hostage? He said clearly that he can see where the buyer may think that it's a done deal. Even I don't live and breathe Arfcom to the point that not being here for 12 hours on a Friday afternoon/evening would be considered "going dark". Maybe the guy last replied on his lunch break, then finished out a day at work, went home, and did some normal people stuff like spend time with his family, watch TV, and go to bed. If 12 hours is too long for you to wait, then this probably isn't the kind of place for you to be selling your stuff. |
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Quoted: Still no response from the 1st party, I am going to wait until 4 pm today for a response then send a I'm retracting the sale. I've already missed out on 2 deals waiting for this person. Just say "Xxxxxxx, I've tried, but I'm running out of patience with you. You've gone silent on communications since XX:XX on October 14th, and it's become apparent you're ignoring my IM's/emails. This deal is off if you don't respond by 1600 CST today" ....... or something like that. ETA: Is this the ad? The guy with 16 posts? |
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Still no response from the 1st party, I am going to wait until 4 pm today for a response then send a I'm retracting the sale. I've already missed out on 2 deals waiting for this person. Maybe he ended up going to sleep and got up and went to work? I would wait a full day. Who ever is next in line, if they are really interested will wait. |
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As long as a reasonable time has elapsed (24 ~ 72 hours, depending on your patience), this guy sounds like he's holding you up by screwing around. I'd just post a link to this thread in the ad and tell him I'm moving on to the next guy. Even if the GD mods move this, the "moved to" tag will lead him to the right place. If you don't have a second trade waiting, it's kind of your call. I understand not wanting to piss him off ... just in case he really is busy, but I'd give him some kind of deadline (publicly). |
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Personally, I think the EE should be reserved for paying members only. It would stop a lot of the bullshit that fo's on there. that is pretty stupid. i think almost all of my feedback is from when i was a non paying member. why would you want to shrink customer base? |
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Lol you guys are great. So here's the situation. I have a object that I wish to trade, with cash, for his item. He said that he valued my item at a lower price than I valued it at. I counter offered with a cash number and a different value for my item. He hasn't replied in 12 hours. I have found another deal to sell my item at an attractive price, but I want to be courteous to the person I dealt with first. If I were to move on and sell my item to person 2, would I be in the wrong? sell it to the better offer person #1 played the negotiation / bargain lower game and LOST Best of luck with your sale |
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Person number 1 was logged in for a short amount of time about 20 minutes ago, and hadn't responded to my PMs, I sent him a pm saying this:
I am eager to get a deal struck and move this optic, I noticed that you were logged on earlier, but didn't respond to my PMs. I am trying to hold out for you ot of common courtesy, but if you don't respond by 3:00 eastern time, I will have to move on to a different deal with someone else. Thank you for your time |
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Quoted: Person number 1 was logged in for a short amount of time about 20 minutes ago, and hadn't responded to my PMs, I sent him a pm saying this: I am eager to get a deal struck and move this optic, I noticed that you were logged on earlier, but didn't respond to my PMs. I am trying to hold out for you ot of common courtesy, but if you don't respond by 3:00 eastern time, I will have to move on to a different deal with someone else. Thank you for your time If you did, would you open it and hit the "report" button so I can back you up (in case he grouches about it). |
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Right wrong or indifferent, you'll probably get banned if you go to someone else. Contact staff and see what they want you to do. Quoted:
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Lol you guys are great. So here's the situation. I have a object that I wish to trade, with cash, for his item. He said that he valued my item at a lower price than I valued it at. I counter offered with a cash number and a different value for my item. He hasn't replied in 12 hours. I have found another deal to sell my item at an attractive price, but I want to be courteous to the person I dealt with first. If I were to move on and sell my item to person 2, would I be in the wrong? Right wrong or indifferent, you'll probably get banned if you go to someone else. Contact staff and see what they want you to do. He shouldn't be banned if he moves on. All he did was make a counter offer, and it hasn't been accepted yet. Right now there is no deal. |
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Who is being held hostage? He said clearly that he can see where the buyer may think that it's a done deal. Even I don't live and breathe Arfcom to the point that not being here for 12 hours on a Friday afternoon/evening would be considered "going dark". Maybe the guy last replied on his lunch break, then finished out a day at work, went home, and did some normal people stuff like spend time with his family, watch TV, and go to bed. If 12 hours is too long for you to wait, then this probably isn't the kind of place for you to be selling your stuff. Quoted:
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"I'll take it" means you have a deal. Until you have a deal it is fair game to all interested parties. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile "I'll take it" means that YOU have committed to a deal. Until both parties have reached an agreement, the deal is not complete. This particular situation sounds like it might be in something of a grey area. If you aren't even sure whether an agreement has been reached, I'd definitely recommend sending an IM/email and getting clarification before backing out. lol, welcome to the new and improved ee @ arfcom OP, where you are held hostage when a buyer/seller goes dark on you. A'int it grand. Who is being held hostage? He said clearly that he can see where the buyer may think that it's a done deal. Even I don't live and breathe Arfcom to the point that not being here for 12 hours on a Friday afternoon/evening would be considered "going dark". Maybe the guy last replied on his lunch break, then finished out a day at work, went home, and did some normal people stuff like spend time with his family, watch TV, and go to bed. If 12 hours is too long for you to wait, then this probably isn't the kind of place for you to be selling your stuff. lol No really, lol |
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"I'll take it" means you have a deal. Until you have a deal it is fair game to all interested parties. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile "I'll take it" means that YOU have committed to a deal. Until both parties have reached an agreement, the deal is not complete. This particular situation sounds like it might be in something of a grey area. If you aren't even sure whether an agreement has been reached, I'd definitely recommend sending an IM/email and getting clarification before backing out. lol, welcome to the new and improved ee @ arfcom OP, where you are held hostage when a buyer/seller goes dark on you. A'int it grand. Who is being held hostage? He said clearly that he can see where the buyer may think that it's a done deal. Even I don't live and breathe Arfcom to the point that not being here for 12 hours on a Friday afternoon/evening would be considered "going dark". Maybe the guy last replied on his lunch break, then finished out a day at work, went home, and did some normal people stuff like spend time with his family, watch TV, and go to bed. If 12 hours is too long for you to wait, then this probably isn't the kind of place for you to be selling your stuff. lol No really, lol So how do you think it should work? |
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Ok, so say you strike a deal, or are trying to negotiate one with a buyer/seller and they stop responding. How long after communication ceased would you wait to move on to another buyer/seller? Strike a deal? I believe there's guidance. Check the faq. Negotiating? Depends on how bad I want it. |