[ARCHIVED THREAD] - .375 Reaper (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 7/2/2014 9:25:18 AM EDT
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I find myself ever so slightly aroused. Because, why not?
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/06/27/another-new-ar15-round-375-reaper/ ETA: I searched for dupes. |
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OK I am in. But not as a full replacement for 5.56 or anythign, just because once I got into 300AAC loading, its sort of fun to make loads and that .375 has some potential for heavier subsonic shooting or hunting larger game.
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I find myself ever so slightly aroused. Because, why not? http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/06/27/another-new-ar15-round-375-reaper/ ETA: I searched for dupes. |
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I'm highly sceptical that they get a 200gr bullet @ 2400 fps out of that case with safe pressures. Larger bores reduce pressure so you can get higher velocities out of them at lower pressures. A 45-70 can fire a 300 grain projectile at over 2400fps at pressures safe for an 1895 Marlin, while a 35 Whelen needs much higher pressure to launch a lighter 280 grain bullet much slower than 2400fps. |
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lol you guys trip me out......its sorta funny how many Black gun guys really have no clue as to what they are talking about when it comes to how and why 300 aac became so popular and what those velocities and energy was created from via such a little platform with pistol powders and no concept of ballistic coefficients ect. The round I developed is not only poor man friendly just as 300 aac with all the common components and ability to make your own parent cases ect... but also is a heavy hitter into the 400 grain sub sonic community with precise accuracy and distance over the 300 aac and .458 socom. When a fella like Dave Kiff gets excited about it and hes a guy that has seen it all in the last 30 yrs, and you get phone calls from guys in the know about testing your stuff for operational use, we take that as a compliment because that speaks volumes.
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lol you guys trip me out......its sorta funny how many Black gun guys really have no clue as to what they are talking about when it comes to how and why 300 aac became so popular and what those velocities and energy was created from via such a little platform with pistol powders and no concept of ballistic coefficients ect. The round I developed is not only poor man friendly just as 300 aac with all the common components and ability to make your own parent cases ect... but also is a heavy hitter into the 400 grain sub sonic community with precise accuracy and distance over the 300 aac and .458 socom. When a fella like Dave Kiff gets excited about it and hes a guy that has seen it all in the last 30 yrs, and you get phone calls from guys in the know about testing your stuff for operational use, we take that as a compliment because that speaks volumes. Hmmm... __________________________________________________________________ Cross-platform electronic bound book (original thread). PGP public key. «nolite confidere in principibus, in filiis hominum quibus non est salus» |
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lol you guys trip me out......its sorta funny how many Black gun guys really have no clue as to what they are talking about when it comes to how and why 300 aac became so popular and what those velocities and energy was created from via such a little platform with pistol powders and no concept of ballistic coefficients ect. The round I developed is not only poor man friendly just as 300 aac with all the common components and ability to make your own parent cases ect... but also is a heavy hitter into the 400 grain sub sonic community with precise accuracy and distance over the 300 aac and .458 socom. When a fella like Dave Kiff gets excited about it and hes a guy that has seen it all in the last 30 yrs, and you get phone calls from guys in the know about testing your stuff for operational use, we take that as a compliment because that speaks volumes. Can't speak for anybody else, but I posted this thread because I thought the round looked like fun. Obviously not something to replace all my 5.56 ARs (which I'm sure wasn't the intention), but like an adult version of the 300bo. More variety=more awesome. Keep it coming. |
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Can't speak for anybody else, but I posted this thread because I thought the round looked like fun. Obviously not something to replace all my 5.56 ARs (which I'm sure wasn't the intention), but like an adult version of the 300bo. More variety=more awesome. Keep it coming. Quoted:
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lol you guys trip me out......its sorta funny how many Black gun guys really have no clue as to what they are talking about when it comes to how and why 300 aac became so popular and what those velocities and energy was created from via such a little platform with pistol powders and no concept of ballistic coefficients ect. The round I developed is not only poor man friendly just as 300 aac with all the common components and ability to make your own parent cases ect... but also is a heavy hitter into the 400 grain sub sonic community with precise accuracy and distance over the 300 aac and .458 socom. When a fella like Dave Kiff gets excited about it and hes a guy that has seen it all in the last 30 yrs, and you get phone calls from guys in the know about testing your stuff for operational use, we take that as a compliment because that speaks volumes. Can't speak for anybody else, but I posted this thread because I thought the round looked like fun. Obviously not something to replace all my 5.56 ARs (which I'm sure wasn't the intention), but like an adult version of the 300bo. More variety=more awesome. Keep it coming. I like it because I reload and am invested in the AR-15 platform. It could be neat for hunting hogs, deer, etc. |
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Quoted: I like it because I reload and am invested in the AR-15 platform. It could be neat for hunting hogs, deer, etc. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: lol you guys trip me out......its sorta funny how many Black gun guys really have no clue as to what they are talking about when it comes to how and why 300 aac became so popular and what those velocities and energy was created from via such a little platform with pistol powders and no concept of ballistic coefficients ect. The round I developed is not only poor man friendly just as 300 aac with all the common components and ability to make your own parent cases ect... but also is a heavy hitter into the 400 grain sub sonic community with precise accuracy and distance over the 300 aac and .458 socom. When a fella like Dave Kiff gets excited about it and hes a guy that has seen it all in the last 30 yrs, and you get phone calls from guys in the know about testing your stuff for operational use, we take that as a compliment because that speaks volumes. Can't speak for anybody else, but I posted this thread because I thought the round looked like fun. Obviously not something to replace all my 5.56 ARs (which I'm sure wasn't the intention), but like an adult version of the 300bo. More variety=more awesome. Keep it coming. I like it because I reload and am invested in the AR-15 platform. It could be neat for hunting hogs, deer, etc. And thus my interest in this round too. But I already have two other rifles for hunting. I do think there should be more options for the AR platform, but I hate how the ammo still remains expensive. 300 Blackout, I really do like the caliber and was planning on using it in my AR for hunting, but I just don't see the reasoning for it when I already have a 308 and 300 Savage that will do a better job than that round.  |
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And thus my interest in this round too. But I already have two other rifles for hunting. I do think there should be more options for the AR platform, but I hate how the ammo still remains expensive. 300 Blackout, I really do like the caliber and was planning on using it in my AR for hunting, but I just don't see the reasoning for it when I already have a 308 and 300 Savage that will do a better job than that round.
Not trying to shit on it, but I just don't want to invest money in a round that is vague and still is $20 a box for 20. Quoted:
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lol you guys trip me out......its sorta funny how many Black gun guys really have no clue as to what they are talking about when it comes to how and why 300 aac became so popular and what those velocities and energy was created from via such a little platform with pistol powders and no concept of ballistic coefficients ect. The round I developed is not only poor man friendly just as 300 aac with all the common components and ability to make your own parent cases ect... but also is a heavy hitter into the 400 grain sub sonic community with precise accuracy and distance over the 300 aac and .458 socom. When a fella like Dave Kiff gets excited about it and hes a guy that has seen it all in the last 30 yrs, and you get phone calls from guys in the know about testing your stuff for operational use, we take that as a compliment because that speaks volumes. Can't speak for anybody else, but I posted this thread because I thought the round looked like fun. Obviously not something to replace all my 5.56 ARs (which I'm sure wasn't the intention), but like an adult version of the 300bo. More variety=more awesome. Keep it coming. I like it because I reload and am invested in the AR-15 platform. It could be neat for hunting hogs, deer, etc. And thus my interest in this round too. But I already have two other rifles for hunting. I do think there should be more options for the AR platform, but I hate how the ammo still remains expensive. 300 Blackout, I really do like the caliber and was planning on using it in my AR for hunting, but I just don't see the reasoning for it when I already have a 308 and 300 Savage that will do a better job than that round.
Not trying to shit on it, but I just don't want to invest money in a round that is vague and still is $20 a box for 20. On the other hand, if you reload, this one uses .308/7.62 brass and .375 projectiles, neither of which are particularly boutique. |
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Quoted: On the other hand, if you reload, this one uses .308/7.62 brass and .375 projectiles, neither of which are particularly boutique. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: lol you guys trip me out......its sorta funny how many Black gun guys really have no clue as to what they are talking about when it comes to how and why 300 aac became so popular and what those velocities and energy was created from via such a little platform with pistol powders and no concept of ballistic coefficients ect. The round I developed is not only poor man friendly just as 300 aac with all the common components and ability to make your own parent cases ect... but also is a heavy hitter into the 400 grain sub sonic community with precise accuracy and distance over the 300 aac and .458 socom. When a fella like Dave Kiff gets excited about it and hes a guy that has seen it all in the last 30 yrs, and you get phone calls from guys in the know about testing your stuff for operational use, we take that as a compliment because that speaks volumes. Can't speak for anybody else, but I posted this thread because I thought the round looked like fun. Obviously not something to replace all my 5.56 ARs (which I'm sure wasn't the intention), but like an adult version of the 300bo. More variety=more awesome. Keep it coming. I like it because I reload and am invested in the AR-15 platform. It could be neat for hunting hogs, deer, etc. And thus my interest in this round too. But I already have two other rifles for hunting. I do think there should be more options for the AR platform, but I hate how the ammo still remains expensive. 300 Blackout, I really do like the caliber and was planning on using it in my AR for hunting, but I just don't see the reasoning for it when I already have a 308 and 300 Savage that will do a better job than that round. Not trying to shit on it, but I just don't want to invest money in a round that is vague and still is $20 a box for 20. On the other hand, if you reload, this one uses .308/7.62 brass and .375 projectiles, neither of which are particularly boutique. Which has a plus going for it, like the 300 Blk. But in the meantime, I'll just stand by and wait for there to be more ammo and lower prices. |
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**Update:**
Got US Army witnessed testing of very light powder charged 235 grain Barnes TSX projos this morning at Fort Benning. 21 grains of h110 2000 fps Keep in mind that this case holds way more than that in capacity and is considered a very low charged case at 21 grains of h110. Other witnessed tests are coming with the normal loads and 1680 looks to be the real winner in powder so far. 2400 fps with a 200 grain projo is a cake walk and will be verified and posted as soon as the boys in Green get jiggy with it again in the next few days. |
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200 grains at 2400fps, and still supersonic at 600yd? Sure thing. I'll believe it when I see it. ETA, why use this over 6.8? 300BLK exists and makes sense because of the whole subsonic suppressed thing. People aren't lining up to shoot supersonic 300BLK. I do, especially when it is cheap range ammo or the Barnes Vor-TX hunting ammo. It demolishes deer. So far it is my favorite hunting round and caliber that I own. ETA: I thought .308 brass didn't eject very well out of a 5.56 upper. The article says the only differences are a barrel/bcg swap. Wouldn't you need to open up the ejection port as well? |
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200 grains at 2400fps, and still supersonic at 600yd? Sure thing. I'll believe it when I see it. ETA, why use this over 6.8? 300BLK exists and makes sense because of the whole subsonic suppressed thing. People aren't lining up to shoot supersonic 300BLK. speak for yourself. |
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200 grains at 2400fps, and still supersonic at 600yd? Sure thing. I'll believe it when I see it. ETA, why use this over 6.8? 300BLK exists and makes sense because of the whole subsonic suppressed thing. People aren't lining up to shoot supersonic 300BLK. speak for yourself. Yeah, supersonic 300blk is a deadly round. Very capable cartridge. |
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Dumb question but what silencer would you use? I know you could use a .40 or .45 pistol can with a fixed piston for subs, but what if you want to run a rifle can? Does anybody make a rifle can larger than .30 other than a BMG can? I'm sure there's a couple more but Wilson makes one for the 458 socom Here |
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No need to open ejection port cover......that only applies to the .458 Socom. It functions flawlessly ...no pressure issues either. We tested this and witnessed with the US Army on Fort Benning this morning. Got any ballistic details? Bullet weights and velocities and such? And barrel length tested as well. |
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New update from Fort Benning
barrel tested was a 16 inch barrel on the AR15 platform 2,365 fps out of 26 grains of h110 pushing the Barnes 235 grain TSX Witnessed and confirmed by US Army personnel. ..... Also in tial reports are that the 250 grain Sierra game king will be pushing this at 2200 fps with a whopping 2900 foot pounds of energy! ! Good enough for any large game on the North American Continent!!! |
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New update from Fort Benning barrel tested was a 16 inch barrel on the AR15 platform 2,365 fps out of 26 grains of h110 pushing the Barnes 235 grain TSX Witnessed and confirmed by US Army personnel. ..... Also in tial reports are that the 250 grain Sierra game king will be pushing this at 2200 fps with a whopping 2900 foot pounds of energy! ! Good enough for any large game on the North American Continent!!! Holy hell....that's a thumper. Looking forward to updates. |
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lol you guys trip me out......its sorta funny how many Black gun guys really have no clue as to what they are talking about when it comes to how and why 300 aac became so popular and what those velocities and energy was created from via such a little platform with pistol powders and no concept of ballistic coefficients ect. The round I developed is not only poor man friendly just as 300 aac with all the common components and ability to make your own parent cases ect... but also is a heavy hitter into the 400 grain sub sonic community with precise accuracy and distance over the 300 aac and .458 socom. When a fella like Dave Kiff gets excited about it and hes a guy that has seen it all in the last 30 yrs, and you get phone calls from guys in the know about testing your stuff for operational use, we take that as a compliment because that speaks volumes. No need to be racist about it, Sir |
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Quoted: I am fucking sick of wildcat cartridges. Just pick a heavy hitting AR variant and stick with it. I vote for 458 SOCOM because it fucks up bears and pigs. |
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I am fucking sick of wildcat cartridges. Just pick a heavy hitting AR variant and stick with it. I vote for 458 SOCOM because it fucks up bears and pigs. Don't like it, don't buy it. But quit bitching about more options, you can never have too many options. You probably would have bitched when we switched from muzzle loaders too huh? |
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Quoted: Don't like it, don't buy it. But quit bitching about more options, you can never have too many options. You probably would have bitched when we switched from muzzle loaders too huh? Quoted: Quoted: I am fucking sick of wildcat cartridges. Just pick a heavy hitting AR variant and stick with it. I vote for 458 SOCOM because it fucks up bears and pigs. Don't like it, don't buy it. But quit bitching about more options, you can never have too many options. You probably would have bitched when we switched from muzzle loaders too huh? 14'ers gonna 14'er.  |
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Quoted: New update from Fort Benning barrel tested was a 16 inch barrel on the AR15 platform 2,365 fps out of 26 grains of h110 pushing the Barnes 235 grain TSX Witnessed and confirmed by US Army personnel. ..... Also in tial reports are that the 250 grain Sierra game king will be pushing this at 2200 fps with a whopping 2900 foot pounds of energy! ! Good enough for any large game on the North American Continent!!! Indulge me, why is the Army interested? |
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If I have my physics right. A bullet is like a piston. The larger the diameter the easier it is to push it.
So It would make sense that pressures would drop with that larger bore. Meaning you could load more aggressively and not go over pressure. I like the fact that it uses a readily available case. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: New update from Fort Benning barrel tested was a 16 inch barrel on the AR15 platform 2,365 fps out of 26 grains of h110 pushing the Barnes 235 grain TSX Witnessed and confirmed by US Army personnel. ..... Also in tial reports are that the 250 grain Sierra game king will be pushing this at 2200 fps with a whopping 2900 foot pounds of energy! ! Good enough for any large game on the North American Continent!!! Indulge me, why is the Army interested? |
| Anybody who wants witnessed Data to include the man who pulled the trigger for that round of testing can feel free to Contact Pat Felix in Cusetta Georgia at Felix Custom Guns and Danny Cooper of Cooper Cartridge Company who's rifle Pat was shooting. As for the military interest the big Army isn't Interested......it's tier 1 units that are interested and for damn good reason. It's that simple/stupid and cheaper than what is available and performs better to boot. |
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Quoted: Anybody who wants witnessed Data to include the man who pulled the trigger for that round of testing can feel free to Contact Pat Felix in Cusetta Georgia at Felix Custom Guns and Danny Cooper of Cooper Cartridge Company who's rifle Pat was shooting. As for the military interest the big Army isn't Interested......it's tier 1 units that are interested and for damn good reason. It's that simple/stupid and cheaper than what is available and performs better to boot. Further search shows Cooper Cartridge to be a commercial reloader. According to a year and a half old thread in the Georgia HTF, he's running 4 1050's and a 650. Some interesting results on the web about his ammo quality. |