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3/6/2014 9:21:25 AM EDT
Just picked up a SUB2000 (glock mags) in 9mm, $499 was just too tempting to pass up.   I'll have to post pics when I get off work.














Anybody have opinions on a red dot / mount?  I see Kel-Tec sells a mount so I was thinking about that, I doubt I'll go as far as a quad rail. The only red dots I have are random ones I've found at LGS's, whats a good choice for a really compact one (reflex style or whatever, not the tube one) in the $100 dollar range?















I hope this thing likes Blazer Brass...





































 
 
3/6/2014 9:25:50 AM EDT
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Whatever you do, mount it so it can still fold.
3/6/2014 9:28:14 AM EDT
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Wow- I paid $300.00 for one a few years back .  All I did was replace the front sight with a Red Lion Precision one in order to maintain the folding functionality.

The manual says no aluminum cased ammo other than that I've fed mine everything from Silver Bear to Black Hills +P- no problems.

Glock 33 round mags work great.  I was able to get a couple of cheap KCI 33 round mags working by replacing the factory springs with Wolf springs.
3/6/2014 9:30:38 AM EDT
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I only came here to shit on the SUB2000, what a waste of money. You should've spent it building a 9mm AR.
3/6/2014 9:31:23 AM EDT
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$499 was too good to pass up?
What the hell are they going for nowadays?

Got mine for half that way back when.
3/6/2014 9:33:17 AM EDT
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Yeah, that's high, but maybe the market has changed.

I think I payed $350 for mine from Hyatt's (known to be the highest price store in Charlotte) 2-3 years ago.
3/6/2014 9:34:30 AM EDT
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My LGS's sell them for 325-375- all the time.
3/6/2014 9:35:53 AM EDT
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I would shoot it a bit before you worry about trying to get a red-dot that doesn't interfere with its folding , and other  accessories.

I like mine but the novelty wore off quickly and I'm glad i didn't spend a ton of money getting extra goodies for it.

ETA: that's about what I paid, and the going rate if you REALLY want one.

Good Shooting!
3/6/2014 9:37:53 AM EDT
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Yeah for 5 bills I'd have to think twice.  People fawn over it whenever I bring it to the range though- I keep telling them it's a marginal weapon, the bare minimum I'd hand to someone I love to defend themselves with.
3/6/2014 9:39:40 AM EDT
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I had the factory quad-rail and didn't like it (took it off), but a friend has one with the Red Lion QR and it's quite nice.

Brian
3/6/2014 9:43:43 AM EDT
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The only regret I have with mine is that it uses Beretta mags rather than Glock, but when I found it in New York, beggars couldn't be choosers.

Picking up my first Glock in a few hours.
3/6/2014 9:52:39 AM EDT
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Wow- I paid $300.00 for one a few years back .  All I did was replace the front sight with a Red Lion Precision one in order to maintain the folding functionality.





The manual says no aluminum cased ammo other than that I've fed mine everything from Silver Bear to Black Hills +P- no problems.





Glock 33 round mags work great.  I was able to get a couple of cheap KCI 33 round mags working by replacing the factory springs with Wolf springs.
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I'll have to look up that front sight - the plastic one does leave something to be desired.







I put the small factory rail piece on the fore rail and hung a cheap lazer/light TLR2 clone on it with the pressure switch held to the forearm with rings of innertube. Works Rather Nicely.




I've also fed mine more Blazer Aluminum that I can bother to count. No ill effects so far. Maybe it's a bigger problem on non-9mm models?

 
3/6/2014 9:56:32 AM EDT
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Just picked up a SUB2000 (glock mags) in 9mm, $499 was just too tempting to pass up.   I'll have to post pics when I get off work.

Anybody have opinions on a red dot / mount?  I see Kel-Tec sells a mount so I was thinking about that, I doubt I'll go as far as a quad rail. The only red dots I have are random ones I've found at LGS's, whats a good choice for a really compact one (reflex style or whatever, not the tube one) in the $100 dollar range?

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There is a thread here about mounting a red dot to the stock fore end...
Thread linky...

I have one in .40.  Sweet little fun gun.

Also for replacement sights look up Tandemkross, and look on eBay and there is all kinds of accessories, including a single point metal sling mount.
3/6/2014 9:57:11 AM EDT
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Is there a 9MM AR kit that uses glock mags?
3/6/2014 9:59:54 AM EDT
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Is there a 9MM AR kit that uses glock mags?


Olympic Arms used to make one, not sure if they still do.

Brian
3/6/2014 10:02:04 AM EDT
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bought mine for 325, sold it for 425. guy who bought it was happy and i was happy. ok gun, but not really better than my 9mm ar or my uzi rifle.
3/6/2014 10:03:23 AM EDT
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Olympic Arms used to make one, not sure if they still do.

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Is there a 9MM AR kit that uses glock mags?


Olympic Arms used to make one, not sure if they still do.

Brian


Still listed MSRP $1,157.
3/6/2014 10:07:47 AM EDT
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OP, I have plenty of toys in the safe. . . and the Sub 2000 is one of my favorites.

It doesn't jam, it shoots great out of the box, and it takes glock mags. . . what more do you want?

the one and only downside is that it gets really dirty really quickly, and the bolt has to weigh like 8lbs haha.

You'll love it, good choice.
3/6/2014 10:09:48 AM EDT
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Tiny pic of my sub2k w/ redlion rail and PA micro dot.   I love it.  Spent about 5 bills on the rifle w/ the forearm already installed.



I had a 9mm AR (pistol) but sold it.  Cost twice as much to put together, weighed twice as much, and was meh. I like this light weight carbine better.
3/6/2014 10:10:08 AM EDT
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bought mine for 325, sold it for 425. guy who bought it was happy and i was happy. ok gun, but not really better than my 9mm ar or my uzi rifle.
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It's half the weight of either of those, and folds to 16".



I'm not saying it is better, but it definitely isn't comparable.



 
3/6/2014 10:21:30 AM EDT
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Is there a 9MM AR kit that uses glock mags?


Olympic Arms used to make one, not sure if they still do.

Brian


And it folds in half to hide in any laptop case, like the Sub2K does?
3/6/2014 10:42:32 AM EDT
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I wrote a thread about my solution for mounting a red dot to my Sub2000. S2K Red Dot solution
3/6/2014 11:00:37 AM EDT
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This company makes some upgrades for KelTecs, inclusing useful stuff for the Sub.
I picked up their screw kit and the folding metal rear sight. What a difference that has made!


I have the .40 (wish it was the 9mm but got it last summer during the scare) that uses Glock mags, Red Lion forend and will probably throw my PA Micro on it.


http://www.tandemkross.com/
3/6/2014 11:02:27 AM EDT
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I wish the 9mm Glock 19 compatible ones were more common, I'd love one as a truck gun that could take my handgun mags.
3/6/2014 11:59:05 AM EDT
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None of the S2K's are plentiful, however the Glock 17 version seems to be one of the most plentiful of the S2K's being produced. You can cut the grip from the Glock 17 version down to fit 19 mags easily. Lots of how-to threads and videos out there.
3/6/2014 5:00:21 PM EDT
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I know there will always be "cheap gun haters" so that doesn't surprise me lol. I guess $499 isn't a steal but they are pretty hard to find lately.











Big dumb magazine lol, dude at the shop said it's not junk, we will see.








Even let them rip me off on some ammo! Lol




It seems cool so far, and I don't even own a 9mm so I figured fuck it why not. I agree I'm gonna try out this funny pink sight before I fuck with a red dot. Hopefully take it out to Guns Plus Saturday.






3/6/2014 5:21:52 PM EDT
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Was the $499 including the drum mag?
3/6/2014 5:30:43 PM EDT
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I picked one up as a range toy. Wife, who never got comfortable with handguns, fell in love with it. Light, stubby, easy to shoot, easy to hit with... the poor man's MP-5. It became her bedroom gun, and I picked up another for the 'Mumbai kit' I keep stashed in the truck.

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3/6/2014 5:30:54 PM EDT
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It's a good gun.  I've fed my Glock 9mm Sub-2000 all sorts of hollowpoint and FMJ ammo and never had a hiccup.  The folding in half part is the real key to its value.
3/6/2014 5:32:32 PM EDT
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Better yet did $499 include two guns?
3/6/2014 5:40:12 PM EDT
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I saw them priced as high as 1K not that long ago so what you paid might be more than suggested retail, but if you're good with it who really cares what anyone else thinks.

If want to check out a Kel-tec specific site with good sub2000 info go to ktog.com forum. There's some good info there.

They are very unique and a handy carbine. The early ones were all aluminum but are pretty hard to find.

Congrats and enjoy!

ILB
3/6/2014 6:11:29 PM EDT
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Yeah, that's high, but maybe the market has changed.

I think I payed $350 for mine from Hyatt's (known to be the highest price store in Charlotte) 2-3 years ago.
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$499 was too good to pass up?
What the hell are they going for nowadays?

Got mine for half that way back when.


Yeah, that's high, but maybe the market has changed.

I think I payed $350 for mine from Hyatt's (known to be the highest price store in Charlotte) 2-3 years ago.


That's what I paid for mine at a gun show, it's a .40 S&W though. Fun little gun to shoot.
3/6/2014 6:15:06 PM EDT
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I have a Red Lion rail and front sight with Larue QD mount and T1 on mine

With Glock 19 for scale:

3/6/2014 6:35:20 PM EDT
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Those things are awesome for what they are:  An emergency, easily foldable/concealable 9mm carbine.  You simply can't compare it to a semi-auto Uzi or other pistol-caliber carbine since it's not being used for the same purpose.
3/6/2014 6:44:10 PM EDT
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I just cut my grip down.
3/6/2014 6:47:50 PM EDT
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$500!!!



I know they can be hard to find at times, but damn.





3/6/2014 8:23:37 PM EDT
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Those things are awesome for what they are:  An emergency, easily foldable/concealable 9mm carbine.  You simply can't compare it to a semi-auto Uzi or other pistol-caliber carbine since it's not being used for the same purpose.
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That's it. When they weren't sure where the Boston bombers went, when they could even have come up the 3 corridor, mine was tucked in my laptop bag. The world has some dangerous times now even here, and that fits the bill for a just in case that doesn't scare the liberals.
3/7/2014 9:27:24 AM EDT
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No the drum was $75
3/8/2014 3:48:34 AM EDT
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As much as I think people have way too much rail on their rifles vs what they actually use,  I wish they put a small section of rail under the front for a light.
3/8/2014 5:29:47 AM EDT
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ide like one but i wont pay what they go for and seeing as no place ever stocks them i guess i wont ever be getting one..
3/8/2014 5:35:53 AM EDT
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Lone Wolf makes a dedicated Glock mag AR lower.

jonblack
3/8/2014 5:37:05 AM EDT
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BAM!
3/8/2014 5:40:04 AM EDT
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I've had 3 over the years, they're crappy, and fun
None would ever feed any hollow point
3/8/2014 5:49:12 AM EDT
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You're a genius. Thanks!
3/8/2014 7:11:07 AM EDT
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Lone Wolf makes a dedicated Glock mag AR lower.

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Lone Wolf makes a dedicated Glock mag AR lower.

jonblack


Get both ! Seriously, they are different enough to need/ want both.

The sub2k is something that looks like it came from Mattel toys but it's still a pretty neat little folder upper. Maybe someone that has an early aluminum model will post a pic. They should make those again.
3/8/2014 7:16:48 AM EDT
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I had heard they changed the ramp design on the Glock models to make them feed more reliably. Mine is a S&W mag sort, and it's never had any issues.
3/8/2014 7:24:24 AM EDT
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Love mine.  It has never once FTE/FTF.  And I never clean the damn thing.  RLP parts can be hard to get a hold of (just requires some patience) but very solid additions.

3/8/2014 7:26:13 AM EDT
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Have a couple of Sub2K's.
Shot 'em a lot.

Carry one in the truck.

But the LATEST Glock-mag carbine is the Mech-Tech. You use your Glock 'lower' and slide it into a 16" Mech-Tech upper...They even have a 10mm model!!!

Build it all up right with BUIS and an empty extension tube and CTR stock (M4 style stock of your choice) and you have a great, RELIABLE, carbine that'll run on Glock mags because it IS A GLOCK.

My 'new' 10mm Mech-Tech has bee 100% reliable and accurate for the first 1000+ rounds! Can't stop shootin the thing and my teenagers love it.

Hog hunting in it's future.
3/8/2014 7:28:53 AM EDT
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Have a couple of Sub2K's.
Shot 'em a lot.

Carry one in the truck.

But the LATEST Glock-mag carbine is the Mech-Tech. You use your Glock 'lower' and slide it into a 16" Mech-Tech upper...They even have a 10mm model!!!

Build it all up right with BUIS and an empty extension tube and CTR stock (M4 style stock of your choice) and you have a great, RELIABLE, carbine that'll run on Glock mags because it IS A GLOCK.

My 'new' 10mm Mech-Tech has bee 100% reliable and accurate for the first 1000+ rounds! Can't stop shootin the thing and my teenagers love it.

Hog hunting in it's future.
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Again, and that one folds to vanish into any laptop bag...?
3/8/2014 7:29:59 AM EDT
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Love mine.  It has never once FTE/FTF.  And I never clean the damn thing.  RLP parts can be hard to get a hold of (just requires some patience) but very solid additions.

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The Red Lion stuff looks very well made, I saw their products over on ktog first, in fact the folks over there helped him with feed back if I remember right.

BTW your sig line cracked me up...
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