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Posted: 10/16/2002 3:14:51 PM EDT
that the witness who saw the rifle is definetley,absolutely,positively sure it was an AK-74. fwiw
Link Posted: 10/16/2002 3:17:41 PM EDT
Plastic or wood furniture?
Link Posted: 10/16/2002 3:21:00 PM EDT
Plastic VEPR looking stock, Bakelite Mag...and a launcher of some sort...
Link Posted: 10/16/2002 3:24:44 PM EDT
Romanian or Bulgarian?
Link Posted: 10/16/2002 3:28:09 PM EDT
5.45X39? I don't see how the ATF could confuse a 5.45x39 bullet with a .223 Remington. Do I hear SAR-3?
Link Posted: 10/16/2002 3:33:40 PM EDT
Really? [:\] And he got out of the van, walked ___ and shot? And where did the ejected brass go? I don't think so. --LS
Link Posted: 10/16/2002 3:40:46 PM EDT
Originally Posted By longshot_va: Really? [:\] And he got out of the van, walked ___ and shot? And where did the ejected brass go? I don't think so. --LS
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I agree........ But these guys DO NOT want to get caught. Therefore Its easy to say that he may have disabled his gas system. Doesn't take much to do that.
Link Posted: 10/16/2002 4:20:51 PM EDT
Damn Commie rifle.
Link Posted: 10/16/2002 4:29:14 PM EDT
"Madame, I may be drunk, but you are ugly. And I will be sober in the morning." - Winston Churchill I think that was W. C. Fields
Link Posted: 10/16/2002 4:33:17 PM EDT
Originally Posted By longshot_va: "Madame, I may be drunk, but you are ugly. And I will be sober in the morning." - Winston Churchill I think that was W. C. Fields
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Have you got a source? My understanding is that this was said by Churchill to Lady Astor when she accused him of being drunk.
Link Posted: 10/16/2002 4:37:28 PM EDT
Link Posted: 10/16/2002 4:38:00 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Tactical_Jew: that the witness who saw the rifle is definetley,absolutely,positively sure it was an AK-74. fwiw
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In my humble multiple state away view, If he was close enough to ID the rifle, he was close enough to get a shot off himself. Carry a gun, damnit!
Link Posted: 10/16/2002 4:40:08 PM EDT
[b]longshot_va wrote: Really? And he got out of the van, walked ___ and shot? And where did the ejected brass go? I don't think so.[/b] It is possible that the terrorist is useing some sort of brass catcher! It could be some sort of a home made cloth type brass catcher that is smaller then the ones that one can usually buy! What I am finding interesting is that the media is not saying that the witnesses both have said that the terrorist is a male and his skin color is not white! That the skin color is a darker skin color! hmm makes me wonder! Also in previous shootings the police had eluded to that they had information of the ethniticity of the shooter, but they refused to release that information based on that they did not want to cause alarm and to offend a certain racial population! I say government cover up on the racial issue of the shooter! The police and federal agencies dont want us whities to go around and rouse the muslim communites!
Link Posted: 10/16/2002 4:42:26 PM EDT
I saw Furman on Fox last night. He tried to say it was an AK but each time they cut him off. Seemed like he really wanted to get that bit of info out. Whew, sure am glad it wasn't an AR. Guess you AK guys are in for more trouble. [rolleyes]
Link Posted: 10/16/2002 4:42:51 PM EDT
why is it that all Villians are in love with the AK. i've asked people what an assualt rifle is and everyone always says, "its one of those...ak47things i think." i have come to the conclustion that an AR15 is not an assualt rifle, but the Sport Utillity Rifle (AR15) is actually in an class all of its own! so take that FOXS NEWS!
Link Posted: 10/16/2002 4:45:10 PM EDT
It makes perfect sense that if this is a foreign terrorist of arabic decent, that he is more familiar with an AK than any other rifle and that this would be his choice of weapon.
Link Posted: 10/16/2002 4:53:38 PM EDT
definitely a good argument for why people should carry. and this one was in VA wasn't it? isn't carry legal in VA?
Originally Posted By Spade:
Originally Posted By Tactical_Jew: that the witness who saw the rifle is definetley,absolutely,positively sure it was an AK-74. fwiw
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In my humble multiple state away view, If he was close enough to ID the rifle, he was close enough to get a shot off himself. Carry a gun, damnit!
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Link Posted: 10/16/2002 5:40:39 PM EDT
Yes it is legal to carry in VA both open and concealed...that is what I have been preaching to all of my friends, guns save lives
Originally Posted By sharky30: definitely a good argument for why people should carry. and this one was in VA wasn't it? isn't carry legal in VA?
Originally Posted By Spade:
Originally Posted By Tactical_Jew: that the witness who saw the rifle is definetley,absolutely,positively sure it was an AK-74. fwiw
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In my humble multiple state away view, If he was close enough to ID the rifle, he was close enough to get a shot off himself. Carry a gun, damnit!
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Link Posted: 10/16/2002 5:58:14 PM EDT
Originally Posted By longshot_va: Really? [:\] And he got out of the van, walked ___ and shot? And where did the ejected brass go? I don't think so. --LS
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Maybe there was brass found but the ministry of truth doesn't want you to know what kind.
Link Posted: 10/16/2002 6:27:07 PM EDT
Marvl Sir Winston, You are drunk! Yes, and you are ugly. But tomorrow morning I will be indisputably sobor. Sir Winston Spencer Churchill Anyone that hates kids, cats, and dogs can't be all bad. When offered a glass of water, he replied, "ugh! Fish phuque in it! and It was a woman that led me to drink. I never did write her to thank her. W.C. Fields
Link Posted: 10/16/2002 6:38:30 PM EDT
Originally Posted By MrP: 5.45X39? I don't see how the ATF could confuse a 5.45x39 bullet with a .223 Remington. Do I hear SAR-3?
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Are we not talking about the BATF= Bureau of Antiquated Technical Findings? There's your answer! Isn't it interesting that they want to jump on the AR15's ?? With the WEST NILE VIRUS going around, I ASK YOU, how in the hell are they supposed to EAT CROW NOW?
Link Posted: 10/16/2002 6:52:20 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Spade:
Originally Posted By Tactical_Jew: that the witness who saw the rifle is definetley,absolutely,positively sure it was an AK-74. fwiw
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In my humble multiple state away view, If he was close enough to ID the rifle, he was close enough to get a shot off himself. Carry a gun, damnit!
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I AGREE about carrying a gun. Just think for a minute though with our perverse and twisted judicial system. If a "CIVILIAN" shot and killed this bastard,instead of being some sort of hero,he would be charged with murder himself! He(the good guy)would be crucified in Maryland- THE FREE STATE ,considering we don't have a RIGHT TO CARRY law here!
Link Posted: 10/16/2002 9:08:05 PM EDT
Virginia is a "shall issue" state. If you qualify to buy a gun and have had minimal training, a 6 hour course, an NRA competitor card, Pistol,High power rifle etc. Then you get a permit to carry concealed. Carry any hand gun you want to, the type or caliber is not listed on the permit. This law has been in effect since July 1995 with only one local shooting by a permit holder that I know about. A liquor store robber shot at a customer that was trying to hide behind a counter and the customer shot back a lot of times with a Glock. I understand no charges were filed. The robber's family was talking about suing, but I never heard anything about the suit.The bad guy is taking a "Dirt Nap"
Link Posted: 10/17/2002 12:51:39 AM EDT
Originally Posted By RELOADER-BOB: Virginia is a "shall issue" state. If you qualify to buy a gun and have had minimal training, a 6 hour course, an NRA competitor card, Pistol,High power rifle etc. Then you get a permit to carry concealed. Carry any hand gun you want to, the type or caliber is not listed on the permit. This law has been in effect since July 1995 with only one local shooting by a permit holder that I know about. A liquor store robber shot at a customer that was trying to hide behind a counter and the customer shot back a lot of times with a Glock. I understand no charges were filed. The robber's family was talking about suing, but I never heard anything about the suit.[blue] The bad guy is taking a "Dirt Nap"[/blue]
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Excellent!
Link Posted: 10/17/2002 12:58:08 AM EDT
Are there really any REAL AK74's in the country that are transferable to civilians?
Link Posted: 10/17/2002 12:59:57 AM EDT
Yeah, there are a few but they're all dealer samples.
Link Posted: 10/17/2002 1:40:58 AM EDT
Link Posted: 10/17/2002 1:55:46 AM EDT
Originally Posted By raven: Yeah, there are a few but they're all dealer samples.
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Just as I suspected. So it's one of those wannabe AK74's. Blundering news media.
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