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I don't suppose you would also like to kill all of the scumbags who are addicted to alcohol and nicotine, as well as the store owners who sell it, the manufactures who produce it, and the farmers who grow it, would you?

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Your tax dollars at work--either directly or through the tobacco settlement.  Sick.

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Those tobacco settlements did some good at least here in MI.  I get 1500$ a year to go to college because of the smokers.  Everytime I see someone throwing down 4.50$ for a pack of camels, I thank them.

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[b]My Solution:
Just Kill all of the scumbag drug addicts and dealers and be done with it !   (oh yeah... throw in all of the hippies and liberals too)
[/b]  [:(!]

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You are watching Fox News with a 4 year old?  I think you got off pretty light if thats all you had to explain.  

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Shock advertising. All the rage now.

Ever since those stupid "The Truth" anti-tobacco commercials

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Hmmmm...it seems to me that if I were to turn the clock back to the prohibition, and then change the "dime bag" and "pot" to "Fifth of Canadian Whiskey", the same results and conclusions would be obtained.

I don't suppose you would also like to kill all of the scumbags who are addicted to alcohol and nicotine, as well as the store owners who sell it, the manufactures who produce it, and the farmers who grow it, would you?

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I would have no problem with taking out the inconsiderate tobacco users....[x]

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What's that grant called?

I thought it was a pretty good commecial. Made a valid point.

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What point?  That drug dealers are bad people that shoot innocents?  Ok ... most people could already make that leap.

There is no cause and effect relationship between Stacey and Carla.  It's just more smoke screen junk science and shock advertising.

Ryan

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Hehehe... Sure ..  !!   Kill 'em all!  [:D]

The only dopers that I've ever encountered have been LIBERAL pieces of shit.  

How many cigarette fiends commit violent crimes in order to buy that desperately needed pack?  (As I have asthma, I do not like them smoking in my space though [;)])


As a matter of fact, the only reason that I stayed a Republican instead of switching to the Libertarian party is/was their stand on drugs.  

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In Other Words:  THIS IS DISGUSTING !   [:(!]  [:(!]  [:(!]

I was just watching Fox News with my little nephew.  He is 4 years old and quite a bright little kid.

This IDIOTIC anti-drug commercial just came on the air:


[b][/i]This is Stacey. This is the dime bag that Stacey bought. This is the dealer who sold the dime bag that Stacey bought. This is the supplier who smuggled the pot to the dealer who sold the dime bag that Stacey bought. This is Carla hit by a stray bullet from Stacey's supplier and paralyzed for life."

Tagline: "Responsibility is a bitch, isn't it, Stacey?"
[/i][/b]


My nephew keeps asking me:
- Who is Stacey?  (my answer:  a drug addicted scumbag democrat)

- What is a dime bag? (my answer:  evil drugs used by liberals and democrats)

- What is paralyzed?  (my answer: this is what crackheads do to each other for fun)


Etc....



WHY ARE THEY SHOWING THIS KIND OF CRAP ON TV????????????????    (paid for by our tax dollars no less)

There is truly no safe haven left for kids anymore.  

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My Solution:
Just Kill all of the scumbag drug addicts and dealers and be done with it !   (oh yeah... throw in all of the hippies and liberals too)
[/b]
 [:(!]

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These sorry fucks (druggies and sealers) are the ones giving libs the ammo to make "assalut weapons" (and more to come) illegal

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You're damn right they're responsible.  There's a huge difference tween cig smokin and weed smokin.

Do [b]you[/b] wnt a bunch of potheads drivin around when you take your kid to football practice or out to dinner??? (note the lack of soccer [:d]).

I wouldn't have really cared if they'd never repealed prohibition.  Sure I drink a few beers now and then, but have never drank and drove. Drinking costs more lives and $$$ than cigs can begin to cost. Cigs don't cause anyone else problems but the ones smokin (long as you're not near it).  It also would be more constitutinoal than banning guns.     Boy I'll probably get flammed for that one.

There [size=6]IS[/size=6] a very valid link between these folks. period.

My problem with libertarians: Drugs are BAD and show me where in The Constitution your right to smoke crack is protected.

I like the AD, and I'd be happy to explain to any kid what it means.

These sorry fucks (druggies and dealers) are the ones giving libs the ammo to make "assalut weapons" (and more to come) illegal

Holy Toledo! We have got to take a step back and look at the big picture here people. It is EXACTLY this sort of segregation that will seal our fate. Splitting us into these "us vs them" camps is by design.

You can not have you cake and eat it too. how can you tolerate the government usurping our right to regulate what we eat/take, yet claim they have no right to regulate firearms!

And please, lets not start with the carnage that will supposedly happen is drug prohibition is lifted. Killing some one with a car will still be just as illegal when/if drug prohibition is repealed. NEWS FLASH: ALL the people who are want to take drugs are currently doing so. There will be no mad rush to drug use. Some of you are using the anti gunners language verbatim! "There will be blood in the streets if we allow concealed carry or the return of 15 round magazines!". Sound familiar? Please people. Stop thinking emotionally and start thinking rationally.

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You're damn right.  There's a huge difference tween cig smokin and weed smokin.

Do [b]you[/b] wnt a bunch of potheads drivin around when you take your kid to football practice or out to dinner??? (note the lack of soccer [:d]).

I wouldn't have really cared if they'd never repealed prohibition.  Sure I drink a few beers now and then, but have never drank and drove.  Boy I'll get flamme for that one.

There [size=6]IS[/size=6] a very valid link between these folks. period.

My problem with libertarians: Drugs are BAD and show me where in The Constitution your right to smoke crack is protected.

I like the AD, and I'd be happy to explain to any kid what it means.

These sorry fucks (druggies and sealers) are the ones giving libs the ammo to make "assalut weapons" (and more to come) illegal

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[size=6]FUCKOFF!!![/size=6]
Are you a member of the ACLU???

You can't justify using/selling drugs, period.

That is like the guy at work that tried to tell me that there was no difference in being in the military and killing the enemy; verses a lawyer lying his ass off to get the child molesters off (knowing he was guilty) just because it was his job....

We are the Govt (don't laugh), and if we (and I think the overwhelming majority of everyone in the country would agree) any way if [b]WE[/b] think drugs should be illegal, then [b]we[/b] have the right to make them illegal.

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I call your attention to your own signature line.



Do you do smoke, drink, chew, or drink coffee? have you ever taken medication...  If so your hypocrisy is overwhelming.  



no its not.



Then by the same token if your we vote your house is better used by the people as a bingo parlor then we can vote to take it away from you.  How about we vote and make it legal to rape all the hot women in town?  Majority rules right?  

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How many cigarette fiends commit violent crimes in order to buy that desperately needed pack?  (As I have asthma, I do not like them smoking in my space though [;)])

You're damn right they're responsible.  There's a huge difference tween cig smokin and weed smokin.

Do [b]you[/b] wnt a bunch of potheads drivin around when you take your kid to football practice or out to dinner??? (note the lack of soccer [:d]).

I wouldn't have really cared if they'd never repealed prohibition.  Sure I drink a few beers now and then, but have never drank and drove. Drinking costs more lives and $$$ than cigs can begin to cost. Cigs don't cause anyone else problems but the ones smokin (long as you're not near it).  It also would be more constitutinoal than banning guns.     Boy I'll probably get flammed for that one.

My problem with libertarians: Drugs are BAD and show me where in The Constitution your right to smoke crack is protected.

These sorry fucks (druggies and dealers) are the ones giving libs the ammo to make "assalut weapons" (and more to come) illegal

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[size=6]FUCKOFF!!![/size=6]
Are you a member of the ACLU???

We are the Govt (don't laugh), and if we (and I think the overwhelming majority of everyone in the country would agree) any way if [b]WE[/b] think drugs should be illegal, then [b]we[/b] have the right to make them illegal.

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You consider smokin crack a freedom????

If recreational drugs were worth defending, Ole Ben, Thomas, and pals would've mentioned them in the Constitution or Madison would've added them into the Bill O' Rights.  The same could be said for alcohol if one wanted to take it that far.

I'm still waiting to see where soemone can point out where it says "The right to smoke and inject mind altering drugs shall not be infringed....

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I was just watching Fox News with my little nephew.  He is 4 years old and quite a bright little kid.

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You consider smokin crack a freedom????

If recreational drugs were worth defending, Ole Ben, Thomas, and pals would've mentioned them in the Constitution or Madison would've added them into the Bill O' Rights.  The same could be said for alcohol if one wanted to take it that far.





I'm still waiting to see where soemone can point out where it says "The right to smoke and inject mind altering drugs shall not be infringed....

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"The Enemy Is Us" is a critical analysis of the United States' War on Drugs to enforce prohibition. The author makes a cogent case for control of drugs by returning to a legal, state-regulated, private-sector drug market as existed before Prohibition. He focuses on the facts of history to justify his position and to identify the bureaucratic blunders that led to drug prohibition.
Few Americans today realize that all narcotics were legal from the beginning of this nation until the imposition of Prohibition in 1920. During the first 144 years of this nation anyone could purchase opium, heroin, morphine and cocaine-even from the Sears Roebuck catalog. Yet, despite the ready availability of legal drugs, the percentage of addicts in America's population was steadily declining for two decades before prohibition. Drug crime was negligible. But more important, by the government's own calculations, the percentage of addicts has quadrupled under prohibition. Crime associated with illegal drug trafficking menaces our society. This being true, what purpose does prohibition serve?

Based on results achieved, the anti-drug bureaucracy cannot justify itself. The only beneficiaries of prohibition have been the illegal drug cartels and the federal drug warriors. The livelihood of both depend on the drug war continuing. Everyone else suffers, especially inner city juveniles.

President Clinton told his Mexican audience in the summer of 1997, "America's problem is we comprise less than 5% of the world's population, but consume nearly half of the world's illegal drugs." Obviously, the problem is American's demand for illegal drugs, but the government tries to dry up the supply of drugs to enforce abstinence. However, in 78 years of drug prohibition, nary a soul has been saved from the drug habit for a lack of illegal drugs for sale.

Washington's anti-drug bureaucrats make the self-serving claim that legalizing narcotics and cocaine will vastly increase the percentage of addicts in the population. As noted above, historical evidence ridicules that position.

The government fails to recognize the effectiveness of thousands of motivated illegal drug entrepreneurs who borrowed the Amway Corporation's successful pyramid marketing strategy to spread drug use throughout the country. Illegal drug trafficking exacts a terrible cost in lives and money. Conversely, America experiences a steady decline in the per capita consumption of nicotine and alcohol. Little crime is associated with this legitimate market. But, illegal drug profits have created the world's greatest criminal enterprise which has corrupted every institution of this nation.

Alcohol prohibition was determined to be a failure and repealed after 13 years. With repeal, Al Capone, bootleggers, hijackers, Tommy-guns, moonshiners, speakeasies and "flaming youth" all faded from the scene. America will experience a similar return to normalcy with drug legalization.

Colonel Dowd presents a bold plan to lead America out of its drug morass and presents historical evidence to verify his strategy. The book refutes the government's self-serving declaration that only prohibition can control drugs. Read the facts and draw your own conclusions. "The Enemy Is Us" unveils the enemy at home and calls for an end to the government's mad rush toward a police state. No bureaucrat can save your children from the drug habit-only they can do that for themselves.

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Paradoxical, is the most apt way to describe Colonel Dowd. A retired career Air Force officer, conservative, Republican with deep moral convictions, he is not the typical advocate for legalizing drugs. However, he presents a well researched book that reaches logical conclusions that contradict the central thinking of Washington's policy makers.

He spent 6 years researching and writing "The Enemy Is Us." His efforts have produced a thoughtful, intelligent and logical plan that every American...

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Why is it every time a debate breaks out about illicit drug use, someone has to compare it to gun rights?  Guns are fundamental to self defense and keeping the federal government in line.  Illicit drugs fuck you up and eventually kill you.  Sure, do with your body as you see fit, but don't say smoking your crack rock is the same as carrying a gun for self defense.

Seems to me that the people who get so defensive about illicit drugs are the ones who use them.  Get a life or just put a gun to your head and do the rest of us a favor.  Junkies, crackheads, stoners...if I come across you while you're fucked up and messing with my stuff, I'm gonna kick your teeth in!  Then when you come out of your stooper, maybe it will hit you that you're a screw up and need to stop abusing your body.

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Why is it every time a debate breaks out about illicit drug use, someone has to compare it to gun rights?  Guns are fundamental to self defense and keeping the federal government in line.  Illicit drugs fuck you up and eventually kill you.  Sure, do with your body as you see fit, but don't say smoking your crack rock is the same as carrying a gun for self defense.

Seems to me that the people who get so defensive about illicit drugs are the ones who use them.  Get a life or just put a gun to your head and do the rest of us a favor.  Junkies, crackheads, stoners...if I come across you while you're fucked up and messing with my stuff, I'm gonna kick your teeth in!  Then when you come out of your stooper, maybe it will hit you that you're a screw up and need to stop abusing your body.

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In light of all the emotion that has circulated around this thread I almost forgot:

RBAD Quit watching TV! [:)]

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Jeez... you sure are painting with a mighty big brush.  I drink a few beers, sip some bourbon and scotch.  Hell, on the 10th of November I get DRUNK OFF MY ASS!! (I spend the 11th nursing a terrible hangover and remembering my fellow veterens.)  The only time I use tobacco is during Mess Night, when I light a cigar to honor those who could not attend.  I have no desire for any other mind altering or addictive substance, and I am hardly addicted to alcohol.  Yes, I have seen the consequences of addiction, but there is no law that can prevent such tragedies.  What about gambling and porn?  Those are two of the most addictive habits known to mankind, but since they are taxed and regulated, Uncle Sugar turns a blind eye.  The same applies to alcohol and tobacco, and can be applied to other drugs as well.

Don't forget about the alcoholics and the nicotine fiends when you start kicking teeth in.  Or by chance,if they, the Rummies and the Nicos, were messing with your stuff, or were sober as a Saint, it would be then be OK to mess with your stuff?

If I didn't know better I might begin to think a few of our members had escaped from DU, considering all of the emotional pillow biting and hand wringing present in this thread.

I'm STILL waiting for a LOGICAL presentation on the CONSTITUTIONAL authority to ban drugs.  I am not saying these so called illegal drugs are harmless, they do destroy many, many lives.  But so do those drugs that have government approval.

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EXCUSE ME !!! ???!!!!

Have you ever SEEN Jane Skinner / Laurie Dhue / Kiran Chetry ????  [:P]

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maybe we need a poll...just to see how far off I am.

Giving that same logic as I've seen, I suppose you boys think prostitution should be be legal too...and abortion.  Hey who are we to point our "moral compass at others"

Fuck the baby, that woman has a right to shurk her responsibilities...