[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Windows 8 blows (Page 1 of 4)
Posted: 11/20/2012 3:12:20 PM EDT
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I want my windows 7 back damn it.
The whole "metro" tile thing is completely useless to me. The stupid apps that it has are completely useless for a desktop or laptop. For example, the photo browser and music player are much more difficult to use than need be. And who the f––k uses bing for anything?!?!?! The scroll bars even require some stupid 2 finger trick. I'll show steve balmer where to stick that second finger. Screw microsoft. I'll pay $40 bucks plus tax just to get my damn 7 back. |
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Nope....computing devices are evolving...so are operating systems. Granted without a touch screen it isn't as convenient but I have one on my ultrabook and love Windows 8. The way it integrates disparate accounts and data is very useful. how is that? How is what? |
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The problem is they are putting a tablet OS on a desktop PC. I was at a Sony store and tried out their touch screen PC with Windows 8. It was fun for about 5 seconds. If I wanted to use touch screen I would buy a tablet. Windows 8: MS Bob for the New Millennium. |
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Nope....computing devices are evolving...so are operating systems. Granted without a touch screen it isn't as convenient but I have one on my ultrabook and love Windows 8. The way it integrates disparate accounts and data is very useful. how is that? How is what? what do you mean by "The way it integrates disparate accounts and data is very useful"? |
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Nope....computing devices are evolving...so are operating systems. Granted without a touch screen it isn't as convenient but I have one on my ultrabook and love Windows 8. The way it integrates disparate accounts and data is very useful. how is that? How is what? what do you mean by "The way it integrates disparate accounts and data is very useful"? He just thought it sounded cool to say that. 
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Nope....computing devices are evolving...so are operating systems. Granted without a touch screen it isn't as convenient but I have one on my ultrabook and love Windows 8. The way it integrates disparate accounts and data is very useful. how is that? How is what? what do you mean by "The way it integrates disparate accounts and data is very useful"? OK...examples...I can use the built in "Mail" application to access my Corporate email without having to go to Outlook Web Access in a browser, or maybe launch a published Citrix app of Outlook, and my Gmail and Live accounts are there along side in their own easy to use "bucket", but same app and same notifications for all (no Gmail notifier here, no having to lauch Outlook for work, etc). Microsoft's free "cloud storage" (term I hate, but it is what it is) is well integrated into the OS and available from all my devices. Yes, there's been other third party apps that have done similar, but not as intuitive with the OS. No, I wouldn't put any especially sensitive data that I have in it, but that doesn't really have anything to do with concerns of availability. All my OS personalization is linked to my Live account and can be sync'd to all devices. There's lots of little things that just make it "feel right" that are hard to quantify in a forum post. It's not a "tablet OS" as some like to say (can you run a couple virtual machines FROM your iPad? You can natively in Win8), though it does allow for that same ease of use with a touch screen device (like the very affordable ultrabook I just picked up last week), and it really compliments the new "Metro" interface well. Yes, if you don't have a touch screen, the new interface isn't as intuitive but there are numerous third party apps that can give you that classic "Start Menu" (Check out "Classic Shell). In my opinion, devices with touch screens will be much more common within the next year or two, and I believe the way people are using computing devices is evolving. Windows 8 is built for that. It's very different from previous versions of Windows, even more so than the difference between XP and Windows 7, so the resistance to change is understandable. I like it though. That's my opinion, and it's worth what you paid for it. 
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The problem is they are putting a tablet OS on a desktop PC. I was at a Sony store and tried out their touch screen PC with Windows 8. It was fun for about 5 seconds. If I wanted to use touch screen I would buy a tablet.
Windows 8: MS Bob for the New Millennium.
Not entirely... they evolved their desktop OS and slapped a tablet interface on it. While I may find that handy ON A TABLET, I don't want it on my desktop. I think there's a way to switch it to a more traditional desktop, but I don't have Win8 and won't be upgrading any time soon. |
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The problem is they are putting a tablet OS on a desktop PC. I was at a Sony store and tried out their touch screen PC with Windows 8. It was fun for about 5 seconds. If I wanted to use touch screen I would buy a tablet.
Windows 8: MS Bob for the New Millennium.
Not entirely... they evolved their desktop OS and slapped a tablet interface on it. While I may find that handy ON A TABLET, I don't want it on my desktop. I think there's a way to switch it to a more traditional desktop, but I don't have Win8 and won't be upgrading any time soon. Yes, you can install a third party start menu. I find it odd the recoil people have from the traditional star menu being gone...I always have made a desktop shortcut or pinned to the task bar any app I use frequently and rarely use the start menu anyway. The new interface is much more useful to me. |
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The part that gets me is that, in reality, all of these operating systems we bitch so hard over are fucking incredible.
Go lock yourselves in a DOS 6.22 emulator for a few weeks and get back to me. Anyone that has had to change jumpers to resolve an IRQ conflict is, of course, exempt. |
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Nope....computing devices are evolving...so are operating systems. Granted without a touch screen it isn't as convenient but I have one on my ultrabook and love Windows 8. The way it integrates disparate accounts and data is very useful. how is that? How is what? what do you mean by "The way it integrates disparate accounts and data is very useful"? OK...examples...I can use the built in "Mail" application to access my Corporate email without having to go to Outlook Web Access in a browser, or maybe launch a published Citrix app of Outlook, and my Gmail and Live accounts are there along side in their own easy to use "bucket", but same app and same notifications for all (no Gmail notifier here, no having to lauch Outlook for work, etc). Microsoft's free "cloud storage" (term I hate, but it is what it is) is well integrated into the OS and available from all my devices. Yes, there's been other third party apps that have done similar, but not as intuitive with the OS. No, I wouldn't put any especially sensitive data that I have in it, but that doesn't really have anything to do with concerns of availability. All my OS personalization is linked to my Live account and can be sync'd to all devices. There's lots of little things that just make it "feel right" that are hard to quantify in a forum post. It's not a "tablet OS" as some like to say (can you run a couple virtual machines FROM your iPad? You can natively in Win8), though it does allow for that same ease of use with a touch screen device (like the very affordable ultrabook I just picked up last week), and it really compliments the new "Metro" interface well. Yes, if you don't have a touch screen, the new interface isn't as intuitive but there are numerous third party apps that can give you that classic "Start Menu" (Check out "Classic Shell). In my opinion, devices with touch screens will be much more common within the next year or two, and I believe the way people are using computing devices is evolving. Windows 8 is built for that. It's very different from previous versions of Windows, even more so than the difference between XP and Windows 7, so the resistance to change is understandable. I like it though. That's my opinion, and it's worth what you paid for it. you are smoking crack. I had some poor user on the phone today who bought a machine with this turd of an OS on it. she couldn't figure out how to do anything on it. I told her to return i for windows 7. before she got off the phone, she says "i have an iPad, what do you think of apple?" i get that last question ALOT lately. Win 8 is going to drive people to: keep using 7 just like vista made people use XP buy a mac |
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I want my windows 7 back damn it. The whole "metro" tile thing is completely useless to me. The stupid apps that it has are completely useless for a desktop or laptop. For example, the photo browser and music player are much more difficult to use than need be. And who the f––k uses bing for anything?!?!?! The scroll bars even require some stupid 2 finger trick. I'll show steve balmer where to stick that second finger. Screw microsoft. I'll pay $40 bucks plus tax just to get my damn 7 back. Why in the fucking fuck did you leave 7 which most prolly the best OS ever ? |
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I want my windows 7 back damn it. The whole "metro" tile thing is completely useless to me. The stupid apps that it has are completely useless for a desktop or laptop. For example, the photo browser and music player are much more difficult to use than need be. And who the f––k uses bing for anything?!?!?! The scroll bars even require some stupid 2 finger trick. I'll show steve balmer where to stick that second finger. Screw microsoft. I'll pay $40 bucks plus tax just to get my damn 7 back. Why in the fucking fuck did you leave 7 which most prolly the best OS ever ? Because I suck. |
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The part that gets me is that, in reality, all of these operating systems we bitch so hard over are fucking incredible. Go lock yourselves in a DOS 6.22 emulator for a few weeks and get back to me. Anyone that has had to change jumpers to resolve an IRQ conflict is, of course, exempt. 
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my favorite was downloading a "start" button so I could find the tools & accessories and the other programs. Just following apple's lead where you have to download add-on apps to do things such as resize windows from anywhere other than the lower right corner. |
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The part that gets me is that, in reality, all of these operating systems we bitch so hard over are fucking incredible. Go lock yourselves in a DOS 6.22 emulator for a few weeks and get back to me. Anyone that has had to change jumpers to resolve an IRQ conflict is, of course, exempt. I'm not bitching about these modern operating systems.
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| I'm not quite a fan yet (especially on a desktop/laptop), but it doesn't seem that awful either. I've been able to adjust to it fairly well. I should say though that I'm running it as a VM along with Windows 7, XP and Ubuntu all on the same machine. They all have their purposes and I'll get used to it. I'm kinda liking Media Center on it. |
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The problem is they are putting a tablet OS on a desktop PC. I was at a Sony store and tried out their touch screen PC with Windows 8. It was fun for about 5 seconds. If I wanted to use touch screen I would buy a tablet.
Windows 8: MS Bob for the New Millennium.
No, they're running a desktop OS with a tablet front end. Notice how when you go to the desktop it's basically like win7 in almost every way? |
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The problem is they are putting a tablet OS on a desktop PC. I was at a Sony store and tried out their touch screen PC with Windows 8. It was fun for about 5 seconds. If I wanted to use touch screen I would buy a tablet.
Windows 8: MS Bob for the New Millennium.
No, they're running a desktop OS with a tablet front end. Notice how when you go to the desktop it's basically like win7 in almost every way? Exactly.... Here is a screenshot of my Windows 8 desktop - I have all the same functionality I had with Windows 7, minus the "Start menu" I never really used anyway, but with a bunch of really cool and useful new features. And with a tiny, simple, and quick little third party application install, the "Start menu" you desire is right back. So you can use that as a "crutch" or "training wheel", until you get used to the next Windows operating system. 
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my favorite was downloading a "start" button so I could find the tools & accessories and the other programs. I work in IT and that's one of the first thing I'm hearing people do after installing Windows 8. This better be successful for Microsoft's sake, they are going all in on it. |
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my favorite was downloading a "start" button so I could find the tools & accessories and the other programs. I work in IT and that's one of the first thing I'm hearing people do after installing Windows 8. This better be successful for Microsoft's sake, they are going all in on it. It's not a "fix" though, it's a "crutch" for people unwilling to learn and adapt to change. Seriously, do you really expect Windows 7 to be "the" operating system for the next 20 years? Computers are changing, the way they're being used are changing, and the operating systems must change. If you're set in your ways and unwilling to change, let's call it what it is. That being said, the "Modern Interface" as Microsoft calls it is easier and intuitive on a touch screen device. Microsoft is betting that is the future of computers. Maybe they'll be wrong, but I doubt it. Instead of having a table that runs Android or iOS, a laptop that runs a completely different interface, and a phone with another, they've made it possible to have a consistent experience across all devices. Even my XBOX 360 has the Window panes. |
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Quoted: The part that gets me is that, in reality, all of these operating systems we bitch so hard over are fucking incredible. Go lock yourselves in a DOS 6.22 emulator for a few weeks and get back to me. Anyone that has had to change jumpers to resolve an IRQ conflict is, of course, exempt. Probably this is the best post in this thread so far. It used to be killer for me as a support guy. And I started with DOS 1.0. I used to have to do that shit a lot. Windows 8 hasn't caused me any real problems yet. But I am not sold enough yet to deploy it to my users either. |
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my favorite was downloading a "start" button so I could find the tools & accessories and the other programs. I work in IT and that's one of the first thing I'm hearing people do after installing Windows 8. This better be successful for Microsoft's sake, they are going all in on it. It's not a "fix" though, it's a "crutch" for people unwilling to learn and adapt to change. Seriously, do you really expect Windows 7 to be "the" operating system for the next 20 years? Computers are changing, the way they're being used are changing, and the operating systems must change. If you're set in your ways and unwilling to change, let's call it what it is. That being said, the "Modern Interface" as Microsoft calls it is easier and intuitive on a touch screen device. Microsoft is betting that is the future of computers. Maybe they'll be wrong, but I doubt it. Instead of having a table that runs Android or iOS, a laptop that runs a completely different interface, and a phone with another, they've made it possible to have a consistent experience across all devices. Even my XBOX 360 has the Window panes. Whatever gets santa's elves making toys man... Whatever. I'll paint it on their screens with whiteout if it shuts them up. |
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my favorite was downloading a "start" button so I could find the tools & accessories and the other programs. I work in IT and that's one of the first thing I'm hearing people do after installing Windows 8. This better be successful for Microsoft's sake, they are going all in on it. It's not a "fix" though, it's a "crutch" for people unwilling to learn and adapt to change. Seriously, do you really expect Windows 7 to be "the" operating system for the next 20 years? Computers are changing, the way they're being used are changing, and the operating systems must change. If you're set in your ways and unwilling to change, let's call it what it is. That being said, the "Modern Interface" as Microsoft calls it is easier and intuitive on a touch screen device. Microsoft is betting that is the future of computers. Maybe they'll be wrong, but I doubt it. Instead of having a table that runs Android or iOS, a laptop that runs a completely different interface, and a phone with another, they've made it possible to have a consistent experience across all devices. Even my XBOX 360 has the Window panes. Windows 8 sales are horrible and Microsoft is already in full panic mode. Word is that SP1 will include a Start button. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Originally Postedin By hammet: Quoted: Nope....computing devices are evolving...so are operating systems. Granted without a touch screen it isn't as convenient but I have one on my ultrabook and love Windows 8. The way it integrates disparate accounts and data is very useful. how is that? How is what? what do you mean by "The way it integrates disparate accounts and data is very useful"? OK...examples...I can use the built in "Mail" application to access my Corporate email without having to go to Outlook Web Access in a browser, or maybe launch a published Citrix app of Outlook, and my Gmail and Live accounts are there along side in their own easy to use "bucket", but same app and same notifications for all (no Gmail notifier here, no having to lauch Outlook for work, etc). Microsoft's free "cloud storage" (term I hate, but it is what it is) is well integrated into the OS and available from all my devices. Yes, there's been other third party apps that have done similar, but not as intuitive with the OS. No, I wouldn't put any especially sensitive data that I have in it, but that doesn't really have anything to do with concerns of availability. All my OS personalization is linked to my Live account and can be sync'd to all devices. There's lots of little things that just make it "feel right" that are hard to quantify in a forum post. It's not a "tablet OS" as some like to say (can you run a couple virtual machines FROM your iPad? You can natively in Win8), though it does allow for that same ease of use with a touch screen device (like the very affordable ultrabook I just picked up last week), and it really compliments the new "Metro" interface well. Yes, if you don't have a touch screen, the new interface isn't as intuitive but there are numerous third party apps that can give you that classic "Start Menu" (Check out "Classic Shell). In my opinion, devices with touch screens will be much more common within the next year or two, and I believe the way people are using computing devices is evolving. Windows 8 is built for that. It's very different from previous versions of Windows, even more so than the difference between XP and Windows 7, so the resistance to change is understandable. I like it though. That's my opinion, and it's worth what you paid for it. you are smoking crack. I had some poor user on the phone today who bought a machine with this turd of an OS on it. she couldn't figure out how to do anything on it. I told her to return i for windows 7. before she got off the phone, she says "i have an iPad, what do you think of apple?" i get that last question ALOT lately. Win 8 is going to drive people to: keep using 7 just like vista made people use XP buy a mac Sticking with win 7 because of the app store in win 8. No PEGI-18+ content (every major game in the last 5 years) and no side loading of win 8 apps. So gamers will be stuck with the desktop and unable to use win 8 optimazations. Steam is even trying to pport all of it's games to LINUx. Either windows wises up or they could be driving their customers to other OSes. |
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The part that gets me is that, in reality, all of these operating systems we bitch so hard over are fucking incredible. Go lock yourselves in a DOS 6.22 emulator for a few weeks and get back to me. Anyone that has had to change jumpers to resolve an IRQ conflict is, of course, exempt. Imagine if BMW built sophisticated, refined, superb-quality cars, but (1.) insisted on relocating the steering wheel to a different passenger's location every few years, (2.) swapped the location of the brake and accelerator pedals on a random basis, and (3.) decided that their engines would run on some new, previously unknown fuel every model year. You might still call their cars "fucking incredible" - but mean it an entirely different way... 
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I bought my wife a new notebook Friday night and it has Windows 8. It's a little different and I was cussing it for awhile but Im getting used to it, however I am getting tired of typing in a password every time I open the lid. Does anybody know how to make this thing auto login?
Edit: Nevermind, I finally figured it out on my own
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The part that gets me is that, in reality, all of these operating systems we bitch so hard over are fucking incredible. Go lock yourselves in a DOS 6.22 emulator for a few weeks and get back to me. Anyone that has had to change jumpers to resolve an IRQ conflict is, of course, exempt. Also add changing DIP switches to set IO addresses. That was helped with Plug and Play and the PCI bus. It wasn't anything Microsoft did.z |
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The part that gets me is that, in reality, all of these operating systems we bitch so hard over are fucking incredible. Go lock yourselves in a DOS 6.22 emulator for a few weeks and get back to me. Anyone that has had to change jumpers to resolve an IRQ conflict is, of course, exempt. Imagine if BMW built sophisticated, refined, superb-quality cars, but (1.) insisted on relocating the steering wheel to a different passenger's location every few years, (2.) swapped the location of the brake and accelerator pedals on a random basis, and (3.) decided that their engines would run on some new, previously unknown fuel every model year. You might still call their cars "fucking incredible" - but mean it an entirely different way... Oh come on. Are you REALLY that dense that to you the changes from windows 95 through Windows 7 are equal to what you just suggested? Windows 8 is the biggest change so far, and if you take half an hour to familiarize yourself with it, you'll find that it can be used/run nearly the same as windows 7. At least Vista got knocked for actually being a buggy OS (initially) that required more RAM than was in the typical low end computer. All this Win8 bashing is pathetic. And FTR, I don't care for Win8 interface that much either... but it's nothing to whine and cry about, nor make up stupid baseless arguments/comparisons about. Just admit you don't like the "full screen start menu" and stick with some other OS (or download classic shell). |
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The part that gets me is that, in reality, all of these operating systems we bitch so hard over are fucking incredible. Go lock yourselves in a DOS 6.22 emulator for a few weeks and get back to me. Anyone that has had to change jumpers to resolve an IRQ conflict is, of course, exempt. Imagine if BMW built sophisticated, refined, superb-quality cars, but (1.) insisted on relocating the steering wheel to a different passenger's location every few years, (2.) swapped the location of the brake and accelerator pedals on a random basis, and (3.) decided that their engines would run on some new, previously unknown fuel every model year. You might still call their cars "fucking incredible" - but mean it an entirely different way... Oh come on. Are you REALLY that dense that to you the changes from windows 95 through Windows 7 are equal to what you just suggested? Windows 8 is the biggest change so far, and if you take half an hour to familiarize yourself with it, you'll find that it can be used/run nearly the same as windows 7. At least Vista got knocked for actually being a buggy OS (initially) that required more RAM than was in the typical low end computer. All this Win8 bashing is pathetic. And FTR, I don't care for Win8 interface that much either... but it's nothing to whine and cry about, nor make up stupid baseless arguments/comparisons about. Just admit you don't like the "full screen start menu" and stick with some other OS (or download classic shell). This ffs. If you're on something that isn't a touchscreen you shouldn't be using your mouse in the Start menu anyways, Win 7 included. |
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The part that gets me is that, in reality, all of these operating systems we bitch so hard over are fucking incredible. Go lock yourselves in a DOS 6.22 emulator for a few weeks and get back to me. Anyone that has had to change jumpers to resolve an IRQ conflict is, of course, exempt. Imagine if BMW built sophisticated, refined, superb-quality cars, but (1.) insisted on relocating the steering wheel to a different passenger's location every few years, (2.) swapped the location of the brake and accelerator pedals on a random basis, and (3.) decided that their engines would run on some new, previously unknown fuel every model year. You might still call their cars "fucking incredible" - but mean it an entirely different way... Oh come on. Are you REALLY that dense that to you the changes from windows 95 through Windows 7 are equal to what you just suggested? Windows 8 is the biggest change so far, and if you take half an hour to familiarize yourself with it, you'll find that it can be used/run nearly the same as windows 7. At least Vista got knocked for actually being a buggy OS (initially) that required more RAM than was in the typical low end computer. All this Win8 bashing is pathetic. And FTR, I don't care for Win8 interface that much either... but it's nothing to whine and cry about, nor make up stupid baseless arguments/comparisons about. Just admit you don't like the "full screen start menu" and stick with some other OS (or download classic shell). Sure, you and I can figure it out pretty quick, but my mom can't, and there's twice as many of her (baby-boomers) as there are of you. That's where the failure starts to show up. |