Posted: 8/10/2011 9:46:37 AM EDT
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It happens to me a lot; I author a work of sarcasm and it is too subtle to be perceived by most. There is a reason for this; I always though sarcasm was best when it was just barely perceptible, too obvious and it looses all its charm and impact. That it should try and convey the full flavor of the fallacy, sophism, or idiocy that inspired it.
So the question is what is good satire? The response to this post prompted this thread. |
Sarcasm, to me at least, is easier perceived when spoken than written.
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It happens to me a lot; I author a work of sarcasm and it is too subtle to be perceived by most. There is a reason for this; I always though sarcasm was best when it was just barely perceptible, too obvious and it looses all its charm and impact. That it should try and convey the full flavor of the fallacy, sophism, or idiocy that inspired it. So the question is what is good satire? The response to this post prompted this thread. A very insightful post. You make several good points. |
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It happens to me a lot; I author a work of sarcasm and it is too subtle to be perceived by most. There is a reason for this; I always though sarcasm was best when it was just barely perceptible, too obvious and it looses all its charm and impact. That it should try and convey the full flavor of the fallacy, sophism, or idiocy that inspired it. So the question is what is good satire? The response to this post prompted this thread. Isn't that the point, though? For it to release all of its charm and impact? |
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It happens to me a lot; I author a work of sarcasm and it is too subtle to be perceived by most. There is a reason for this; I always though sarcasm was best when it was just barely perceptible, too obvious and it looses all its charm and impact. That it should try and convey the full flavor of the fallacy, sophism, or idiocy that inspired it. So the question is what is good satire? The response to this post prompted this thread. You failed, it wasn't even a respectable effort at sarcasm. |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm
Understanding
Understanding the subtlety of this usage requires second-order interpretation of the speaker's intentions. This sophisticated understanding can be lacking in some people with certain forms of brain damage, dementia and autism,[11] and this perception has been located by MRI in the right parahippocampal gyrus.[12][13] This explains a lot. |
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It happens to me a lot; I author a work of sarcasm and it is too subtle to be perceived by most. There is a reason for this; I always though sarcasm was best when it was just barely perceptible, too obvious and it looses all its charm and impact. That it should try and convey the full flavor of the fallacy, sophism, or idiocy that inspired it. So the question is what is good satire? The response to this post prompted this thread. Isn't that the point, though? For it to release all of its charm and impact? The OP might have missed that one. I hate when I do that. I feel like such a looser. |
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It happens to me a lot; I author a work of sarcasm and it is too subtle to be perceived by most. There is a reason for this; I always though sarcasm was best when it was just barely perceptible, too obvious and it looses all its charm and impact. That it should try and convey the full flavor of the fallacy, sophism, or idiocy that inspired it. So the question is what is good satire? The response to this post prompted this thread. Isn't that the point, though? For it to release all of its charm and impact? The OP might have missed that one. I hate when I do that. I feel like such a looser. *GASP!!* I was only being sarcastic. Calm down. |
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Here's a tip: Repeating an opinion some dolts actually have - not sarcasm, unless the reader knows who the hell you are and that it's impossible you would hold this opinion. Here is a very slight rewrite of your statement in the other thread that might not have confused as much. I think the key is to include references to facts that are obviously untrue - as opposed to opinions you might have. Economy is _not_ recovering All Obama did was...nothing. Obama has no plan The rich pay most taxes, certainly more than their "fair share" etc... It is without question that the so called "tea-bagger party" hacks are actively trying to damage our obviously recovering economy simply so they can delight in saying "neener neener neeener" to the American people. President Obama narrowly brought us back from the brink of disaster today due to his verbal restraint and patient inactivity. The carefully detailed and cunningly crafted plan he has presented the American people will see us through the coming decades in prosperity - we can _all_ be rich, not just fat cats with corporate jets who don't pay their fair share. ... |
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Here's a tip: Repeating an opinion some dolts actually have - not sarcasm, unless the reader knows who the hell you are and that it's impossible you would hold this opinion. Here is a very slight rewrite of your statement in the other thread that might not have confused as much. I think the key is to include references to facts that are obviously untrue - as opposed to opinions you might have. Economy is _not_ recovering All Obama did was...nothing. Obama has no plan The rich pay most taxes, certainly more than their "fair share" etc... It is without question that the so called "tea-bagger party" hacks are actively trying to damage our obviously recovering economy simply so they can delight in saying "neener neener neeener" to the American people. President Obama narrowly brought us back from the brink of disaster today due to his verbal restraint and patient inactivity. The carefully detailed and cunningly crafted plan he has presented the American people will see us through the coming decades in prosperity - we can _all_ be rich, not just fat cats with corporate jets who don't pay their fair share. ... Fantastic! |