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7/19/2010 9:38:40 AM EDT
On the radio.

All over the Repubs. Kicked Trent Lott's ass.

ETA: Apparently he is reading excerpts from an article from The American Spectator.

Now hammering McCain.  

Here is the link to th American Spectator document. (Servers have been inundated)

Link
7/19/2010 9:41:16 AM EDT
[#1]
I'd reset Sessions if I didn't think we might get a (D).
7/19/2010 9:43:20 AM EDT
[#2]
What, its true. D or R...it doesnt matter much anymore. Both sides forget who they answer to. Theyve got their own little exclusive "club".

Then again...seems to be alot of that going around these days.
7/19/2010 9:43:56 AM EDT
[#3]
Love it.  The ruling class is mostly lawyers.  Lawyers who have always worked in the public sector.
7/19/2010 9:51:35 AM EDT
[#4]
Sounds suspiciously like class warfare to me.

I think you guys are just jealous that these people are rich and powerful, and are using their wealth and power to their full advantage. Isn't that what America is all about? Isn't this what Neo-Conservatism teaches us? Doesn't Neo-Conservatism also teach us that spiteful envy towards those who are richer and more powerful that you is nothing more than a commie plot to destroy the fabric of American society? Shouldn't Rush be praising The Ruling Class for looking after their own self interests and using the system to elevate themselves to such lofty positions of power and wealth?
7/19/2010 9:53:05 AM EDT
[#5]
Good for Rush.   Sic 'em boy.
7/19/2010 9:53:38 AM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
Sounds suspiciously like class warfare to me.

I think you guys are just jealous that these people are rich and powerful, and are using their wealth and power to their full advantage. Isn't that what America is all about? Isn't this what Neo-Conservatism teaches us? Doesn't Neo-Conservatism also teach us that spiteful envy towards those who are richer and more powerful that you is nothing more than a commie plot to destroy the fabric of American society? Shouldn't Rush be praising The Ruling Class for looking after their own self interests and using the system to elevate themselves to such lofty positions of power and wealth?


That there's a masterpiece.

7/19/2010 9:56:32 AM EDT
[#7]


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Sounds suspiciously like class warfare to me.



I think you guys are just jealous that these people are rich and powerful, and are using their wealth and power to their full advantage. Isn't that what America is all about? Isn't this what Neo-Conservatism teaches us? Doesn't Neo-Conservatism also teach us that spiteful envy towards those who are richer and more powerful that you is nothing more than a commie plot to destroy the fabric of American society? Shouldn't Rush be praising The Ruling Class for looking after their own self interests and using the system to elevate themselves to such lofty positions of power and wealth?




That there's a masterpiece.







<Comment removed - T7>



Consider reviewing the
Code of Conduct, specifically the portion about "...hav(ing) a right to disagree, but do(ing) so in a respectful manner" before a gentle admonition becomes an officially recorded action.



-T7
7/19/2010 10:00:15 AM EDT
[#8]


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Sounds suspiciously like class warfare to me.



I think you guys are just jealous that these people are rich and powerful, and are using their wealth and power to their full advantage. Isn't that what America is all about? Isn't this what Neo-Conservatism teaches us? Doesn't Neo-Conservatism also teach us that spiteful envy towards those who are richer and more powerful that you is nothing more than a commie plot to destroy the fabric of American society? Shouldn't Rush be praising The Ruling Class for looking after their own self interests and using the system to elevate themselves to such lofty positions of power and wealth?




That there's a masterpiece.







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7/19/2010 10:02:18 AM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
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Sounds suspiciously like class warfare to me.

I think you guys are just jealous that these people are rich and powerful, and are using their wealth and power to their full advantage. Isn't that what America is all about? Isn't this what Neo-Conservatism teaches us? Doesn't Neo-Conservatism also teach us that spiteful envy towards those who are richer and more powerful that you is nothing more than a commie plot to destroy the fabric of American society? Shouldn't Rush be praising The Ruling Class for looking after their own self interests and using the system to elevate themselves to such lofty positions of power and wealth?


That there's a masterpiece.



A little sarcasm from a lefty leaner?

7/19/2010 10:05:03 AM EDT
[#10]
The "ruling class" ?

7/19/2010 10:09:11 AM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
Sounds suspiciously like class warfare to me.

I think you guys are just jealous that these people are rich and powerful, and are using their wealth and power to their full advantage. Isn't that what America is all about? Isn't this what Neo-Conservatism teaches us? Doesn't Neo-Conservatism also teach us that spiteful envy towards those who are richer and more powerful that you is nothing more than a commie plot to destroy the fabric of American society? Shouldn't Rush be praising The Ruling Class for looking after their own self interests and using the system to elevate themselves to such lofty positions of power and wealth?


POPULIST!!!!!!!!!!
How DARE you take the side of the Masses against the ruling elite.
Dont you realise that Democracy doesn't work? Its the angry mob.
Its clear that Tyranny by the majority doesn't work, Tyranny by the minority is better. See how that works?
If we DON'T allow a small elite to gather up all the power and wealth together and leave the rest without, we'll end up like some wacky south American country.

PS- does anyone have a link or a title for the article from the American spectator that he is reading from?
7/19/2010 10:10:14 AM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
Sounds suspiciously like class warfare to me.

I think you guys are just jealous that these people are rich and powerful, and are using their wealth and power to their full advantage. Isn't that what America is all about? Isn't this what Neo-Conservatism teaches us? Doesn't Neo-Conservatism also teach us that spiteful envy towards those who are richer and more powerful that you is nothing more than a commie plot to destroy the fabric of American society? Shouldn't Rush be praising The Ruling Class for looking after their own self interests and using the system to elevate themselves to such lofty positions of power and wealth?

Good point - one day he's attacking the left for its envy, its desire to tear down the successful and restrain their freedom in the name of equality, and the next day he's in full populist form, attacking the pinheaded elitists for the sake of the downtrodden masses who tune in to EIB.
7/19/2010 10:19:01 AM EDT
[#13]



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Sounds suspiciously like class warfare to me.



I think you guys are just jealous that these people are rich and powerful, and are using their wealth and power to their full advantage. Isn't that what America is all about? Isn't this what Neo-Conservatism teaches us? Doesn't Neo-Conservatism also teach us that spiteful envy towards those who are richer and more powerful that you is nothing more than a commie plot to destroy the fabric of American society? Shouldn't Rush be praising The Ruling Class for looking after their own self interests and using the system to elevate themselves to such lofty positions of power and wealth?


I think you're missing the point. He is railing on those that use us, the taxpayer, to reach their ends. Doing it on their own would be one thing. Only through hard work on your own and the choice of others to use what you have employed.

 



What Rush is going off on is the crony-capitalists, control freaks, and social engineering minded assholes.
7/19/2010 10:29:47 AM EDT
[#14]



Quoted:


Sounds suspiciously like class warfare to me.



I think you guys are just jealous that these people are rich and powerful, and are using their wealth and power to their full advantage. Isn't that what America is all about? Isn't this what Neo-Conservatism teaches us? Doesn't Neo-Conservatism also teach us that spiteful envy towards those who are richer and more powerful that you is nothing more than a commie plot to destroy the fabric of American society? Shouldn't Rush be praising The Ruling Class for looking after their own self interests and using the system to elevate themselves to such lofty positions of power and wealth?


You miss the point.  Today's episode started out with the high school clique analogy.  The "clique of power" is EXCLUSIONARY in nature.  Conservatives welcome anyone willing to do the hard work.  Meritocracy compared to oligarchy.
 
7/19/2010 10:30:34 AM EDT
[#15]
Welcome to yesterday Rush.
7/19/2010 10:32:05 AM EDT
[#16]
It’s a shame this isn’t getting more attention.

I admit I was astonished to hear it from Rush.  I have been listening to him on and off for years and I always felt that he just didn’t get it. He would always end up in defense of poor republican behavior.  He has changed since Obama has been in office and the change is dramatic in this last year.


For those that haven’t listened to todays show, it really is a must for any republican. It does a good job of explaining why it is that Dems always are the ones that set the agenda and that republicans are always the ones that have to compromise.


. The ruling class is liberalism, it is the academia, the media, the power brokers, to be part of the ruling class, you have to talk the talk and walk the walk.   You have to as Lindsey Graham did, accept Global Warming, you have to as John McCain did, be nice and lose gracefully to the anointed one.  You have to play the game and be a liberal if you want to be in the in crowd.  Republicans are really just dems that cant be elected in republican distracts, states without being republicans.

The Republicans as Trent Lott himself exposed are scared of a real populist movement and admit that it must be co-opted and had major concern with a Tea party caucus  “Congress cant have any more Jim Dement’s.”

It was a great show, I was only able to listen to the first hour. I wish all Republicans could have heard it.


Rush is indeed late to the party, however I am glad that he has finally arrived.. its a lot better then were he was not long ago, toting the line with W.
7/19/2010 10:34:06 AM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Sounds suspiciously like class warfare to me.

I think you guys are just jealous that these people are rich and powerful, and are using their wealth and power to their full advantage. Isn't that what America is all about? Isn't this what Neo-Conservatism teaches us? Doesn't Neo-Conservatism also teach us that spiteful envy towards those who are richer and more powerful that you is nothing more than a commie plot to destroy the fabric of American society? Shouldn't Rush be praising The Ruling Class for looking after their own self interests and using the system to elevate themselves to such lofty positions of power and wealth?

You miss the point.  Today's episode started out with the high school clique analogy.  The "clique of power" is EXCLUSIONARY in nature.  Conservatives welcome anyone willing to do the hard work.  Meritocracy compared to oligarchy.


 


So an average guy, like say a grunt fresh from Afghanistan or Iraq can't run for Congress and win? I think that there are more than a couple of members of the current Congress who would disagree with you quite vigorously.
7/19/2010 10:42:17 AM EDT
[#18]
with a few exceptions


these people have never created anything , never had a job outside of
the public arena



they have never created jobs, they have never engaged in capitalism


only thing most have done outside the govt arena is be a parasite and sue or blackmail actual capitalists





they are fucking clueless and absolutely detached from reality



Let them eat cake is in full effect



 
7/19/2010 10:42:41 AM EDT
[#19]
What do a lot of the elite have in common?
7/19/2010 10:43:21 AM EDT
[#20]
Fuck the Democrats .
7/19/2010 10:45:14 AM EDT
[#21]



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Sounds suspiciously like class warfare to me.



I think you guys are just jealous that these people are rich and powerful, and are using their wealth and power to their full advantage. Isn't that what America is all about? Isn't this what Neo-Conservatism teaches us? Doesn't Neo-Conservatism also teach us that spiteful envy towards those who are richer and more powerful that you is nothing more than a commie plot to destroy the fabric of American society? Shouldn't Rush be praising The Ruling Class for looking after their own self interests and using the system to elevate themselves to such lofty positions of power and wealth?


You miss the point.  Today's episode started out with the high school clique analogy.  The "clique of power" is EXCLUSIONARY in nature.  Conservatives welcome anyone willing to do the hard work.  Meritocracy compared to oligarchy.





 




So an average guy, like say a grunt fresh from Afghanistan or Iraq can't run for Congress and win? I think that there are more than a couple of members of the current Congress who would disagree with you quite vigorously.


They are not part of the "ruling class".  The one common denominator is the JD and admission to the bar.  While the RC doesn't require this, it is a fast ticket to membership.  Senator McCain is one example, of course they have access to the skeletons in his closet (Keating Five), this is why he has strong populist intentions.



Ronald Reagen is the prime example of how outsiders are treated.



 
7/19/2010 10:45:48 AM EDT
[#22]



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What do a lot of the elite have in common?


A Juris Doctorate degree and admission to the bar.  



 
7/19/2010 10:48:16 AM EDT
[#23]
To simplify,,,,this wagon puller is gonna climb up in the seat and have a "chat" with the driver.
7/19/2010 10:50:24 AM EDT
[#24]
Quoted:
Sounds suspiciously like class warfare to me.

I think you guys are just jealous that these people are rich and powerful, and are using their wealth and power to their full advantage. Isn't that what America is all about? Isn't this what Neo-Conservatism teaches us? Doesn't Neo-Conservatism also teach us that spiteful envy towards those who are richer and more powerful that you is nothing more than a commie plot to destroy the fabric of American society? Shouldn't Rush be praising The Ruling Class for looking after their own self interests and using the system to elevate themselves to such lofty positions of power and wealth?


If you read the article you'd realize this isn't about capitalism/communism.  It does not advocate 'redistribution' of wealth or any of that shit.  It's more a criticism of big government and RINO's who continue to support its expansion in exchange for a piece of the money pie.


ETA:   Further distinguishing the piece in the spectator from 'class warfare', the author points out that you can't buy your way into this new 'ruling class'.  The only way to get in is to put some work in for the elite already in power, and to embrace their ideals and generally agree to tow the 'party line'.  You can see this very well with all the representatives and political appointees who have no qualifications and sub-grade school understandings of world geography.  They aren't rich, they aren't smart, they are just good at doing what they are told and fill some niche roll required by those who are really pulling the strings, ie Shelia Jackson Lee(mentioned since we had a thread about her a few days back).
7/19/2010 10:51:04 AM EDT
[#25]
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What do a lot of the elite have in common?

A Juris Doctorate degree and admission to the bar.  
 


Any internet colleges that can grant a JD?
7/19/2010 10:52:11 AM EDT
[#26]
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Sounds suspiciously like class warfare to me.

I think you guys are just jealous that these people are rich and powerful, and are using their wealth and power to their full advantage. Isn't that what America is all about? Isn't this what Neo-Conservatism teaches us? Doesn't Neo-Conservatism also teach us that spiteful envy towards those who are richer and more powerful that you is nothing more than a commie plot to destroy the fabric of American society? Shouldn't Rush be praising The Ruling Class for looking after their own self interests and using the system to elevate themselves to such lofty positions of power and wealth?

You miss the point.  Today's episode started out with the high school clique analogy.  The "clique of power" is EXCLUSIONARY in nature.  Conservatives welcome anyone willing to do the hard work.  Meritocracy compared to oligarchy.
Sarah Palin too  


So an average guy, like say a grunt fresh from Afghanistan or Iraq can't run for Congress and win? I think that there are more than a couple of members of the current Congress who would disagree with you quite vigorously.

They are not part of the "ruling class".  The one common denominator is the JD and admission to the bar.  While the RC doesn't require this, it is a fast ticket to membership.  Senator McCain is one example, of course they have access to the skeletons in his closet (Keating Five), this is why he has strong populist intentions.

Ronald Reagen is the prime example of how outsiders are treated.
 


7/19/2010 10:54:55 AM EDT
[#27]
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Sounds suspiciously like class warfare to me.

I think you guys are just jealous that these people are rich and powerful, and are using their wealth and power to their full advantage. Isn't that what America is all about? Isn't this what Neo-Conservatism teaches us? Doesn't Neo-Conservatism also teach us that spiteful envy towards those who are richer and more powerful that you is nothing more than a commie plot to destroy the fabric of American society? Shouldn't Rush be praising The Ruling Class for looking after their own self interests and using the system to elevate themselves to such lofty positions of power and wealth?

You miss the point.  Today's episode started out with the high school clique analogy.  The "clique of power" is EXCLUSIONARY in nature.  Conservatives welcome anyone willing to do the hard work.  Meritocracy compared to oligarchy.


 


So an average guy, like say a grunt fresh from Afghanistan or Iraq can't run for Congress and win? I think that there are more than a couple of members of the current Congress who would disagree with you quite vigorously.

They are not part of the "ruling class".  The one common denominator is the JD and admission to the bar.  While the RC doesn't require this, it is a fast ticket to membership.  Senator McCain is one example, of course they have access to the skeletons in his closet (Keating Five), this is why he has strong populist intentions.

Ronald Reagen is the prime example of how outsiders are treated.
 


What about W? He was a member of the ruling class if ever there was one. Member of a historically rich and powerful family with strong ties to government for at least three generations, Ivy League education and he is a member of a known "ruling class" secret society. I don't think that there has been a more hated president in the last 100 years, except for maybe Nixon.
7/19/2010 10:57:18 AM EDT
[#28]



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Sounds suspiciously like class warfare to me.



I think you guys are just jealous that these people are rich and powerful, and are using their wealth and power to their full advantage. Isn't that what America is all about? Isn't this what Neo-Conservatism teaches us? Doesn't Neo-Conservatism also teach us that spiteful envy towards those who are richer and more powerful that you is nothing more than a commie plot to destroy the fabric of American society? Shouldn't Rush be praising The Ruling Class for looking after their own self interests and using the system to elevate themselves to such lofty positions of power and wealth?


You miss the point.  Today's episode started out with the high school clique analogy.  The "clique of power" is EXCLUSIONARY in nature.  Conservatives welcome anyone willing to do the hard work.  Meritocracy compared to oligarchy.





 




So an average guy, like say a grunt fresh from Afghanistan or Iraq can't run for Congress and win? I think that there are more than a couple of members of the current Congress who would disagree with you quite vigorously.


They are not part of the "ruling class".  The one common denominator is the JD and admission to the bar.  While the RC doesn't require this, it is a fast ticket to membership.  Senator McCain is one example, of course they have access to the skeletons in his closet (Keating Five), this is why he has strong populist intentions.



Ronald Reagen is the prime example of how outsiders are treated.

 






Exactly.



They still, to this day, try to make it appear Renaldo was just not quite as smart as they.




Small problem though was when Renaldo's writings were released.




After reading those, I never thought again about his previous life as just as Actor.




His grasp of Civics and History was incredible.




I'm sure the left, tree swinging Neanderthals will be along shortly to dispute this.










 
7/19/2010 10:57:59 AM EDT
[#29]
Rush was bang-on 100%.  The government is a big bloated pile of shit.
7/19/2010 11:04:16 AM EDT
[#30]
This is something I've been saying for a while.  Much of the division in this country is between upper class values (liberal) versus middle class values (conservative).  Now, the democrats are firmly in the upper class values camp and have been since the riots at the Chicago convention.  Republicans, while nominally the party of middle class values, are typically represented by people who, deep down, often have upper class values.  Why is this?  Because in a Republic of this size you need massive concentrations of wealth in order to be elected.  It takes millions of dollars to run for the House or Senate, and hundreds of millions to run for President.  Concentrations of wealth of this magnitude are most often found amongst urban elites, who are liberals.  When someone like Reagan gets elected it tends to be the exception rather than the rule.  This is why Republicans are always worried about their politicians going wobbly on them in a way liberals aren't.  
7/19/2010 11:04:45 AM EDT
[#31]
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Rush was bang-on 100%.  The government is a big bloated pile of self serving shit.


7/19/2010 11:10:02 AM EDT
[#32]



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Sounds suspiciously like class warfare to me.



I think you guys are just jealous that these people are rich and powerful, and are using their wealth and power to their full advantage. Isn't that what America is all about? Isn't this what Neo-Conservatism teaches us? Doesn't Neo-Conservatism also teach us that spiteful envy towards those who are richer and more powerful that you is nothing more than a commie plot to destroy the fabric of American society? Shouldn't Rush be praising The Ruling Class for looking after their own self interests and using the system to elevate themselves to such lofty positions of power and wealth?


You miss the point.  Today's episode started out with the high school clique analogy.  The "clique of power" is EXCLUSIONARY in nature.  Conservatives welcome anyone willing to do the hard work.  Meritocracy compared to oligarchy.





 




So an average guy, like say a grunt fresh from Afghanistan or Iraq can't run for Congress and win? I think that there are more than a couple of members of the current Congress who would disagree with you quite vigorously.


They are not part of the "ruling class".  The one common denominator is the JD and admission to the bar.  While the RC doesn't require this, it is a fast ticket to membership.  Senator McCain is one example, of course they have access to the skeletons in his closet (Keating Five), this is why he has strong populist intentions.



Ronald Reagen is the prime example of how outsiders are treated.

 




What about W? He was a member of the ruling class if ever there was one. Member of a historically rich and powerful family with strong ties to government for at least three generations, Ivy League education and he is a member of a known "ruling class" secret society. I don't think that there has been a more hated president in the last 100 years, except for maybe Nixon.


Not even close.  Never a member of the bar, never a senator.  Elected to first political position as governor of Texas.  



Hated?  Only by the insane left.  Or anti-war communists.





 
7/19/2010 11:10:31 AM EDT
[#33]
Quoted:
with a few exceptions
these people have never created anything , never had a job outside of the public arena
they have never created jobs, they have never engaged in capitalism
only thing most have done outside the govt arena is be a parasite and sue or blackmail actual capitalists

they are fucking clueless and absolutely detached from reality

Let them eat cake is in full effect
 


Wow when you put it that way they almost sound like radio talk show propaganda / agitators!

By any sane measurement, Rush Limbaugh is a relatively high ranking member of the "ruling class."



7/19/2010 11:12:00 AM EDT
[#34]
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.................What about W? He was a member of the ruling class if ever there was one. Member of a historically rich and powerful family with strong ties to government for at least three generations, Ivy League education and he is a member of a known "ruling class" secret society. I don't think that there has been a more hated president in the last 100 years, except for maybe Nixon.


Bush 43's  inaugural speech had tones of Wilsonian Progressivism (America cannot be free until the whole world is free). Nation building, "make the world safe for democracy", blah, blah, blah. It all runs together, what?

These people aren't content to prod our asses up to the "shining city on the hill." They must drag the rest of the planet along for the ride.

Not to worry. They'll bankrupt the country with their schemes. When the populace realizes the inevitable outcome is upon it, perhaps they'll drag the lot of them out of DC by the scruff of their meddling necks.

7/19/2010 11:12:22 AM EDT
[#35]



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with a few exceptions

these people have never created anything , never had a job outside of the public arena

they have never created jobs, they have never engaged in capitalism

only thing most have done outside the govt arena is be a parasite and sue or blackmail actual capitalists



they are fucking clueless and absolutely detached from reality



Let them eat cake is in full effect

 




Wow when you put it that way they almost sound like radio talk show propaganda / agitators!



By any sane measurement, Rush Limbaugh is a relatively high ranking member of the "ruling class."


He is.



 
7/19/2010 11:14:20 AM EDT
[#36]
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Sounds suspiciously like class warfare to me.

I think you guys are just jealous that these people are rich and powerful, and are using their wealth and power to their full advantage. Isn't that what America is all about? Isn't this what Neo-Conservatism teaches us? Doesn't Neo-Conservatism also teach us that spiteful envy towards those who are richer and more powerful that you is nothing more than a commie plot to destroy the fabric of American society? Shouldn't Rush be praising The Ruling Class for looking after their own self interests and using the system to elevate themselves to such lofty positions of power and wealth?

You miss the point.  Today's episode started out with the high school clique analogy.  The "clique of power" is EXCLUSIONARY in nature.  Conservatives welcome anyone willing to do the hard work.  Meritocracy compared to oligarchy.


 


So an average guy, like say a grunt fresh from Afghanistan or Iraq can't run for Congress and win? I think that there are more than a couple of members of the current Congress who would disagree with you quite vigorously.

They are not part of the "ruling class".  The one common denominator is the JD and admission to the bar.  While the RC doesn't require this, it is a fast ticket to membership.  Senator McCain is one example, of course they have access to the skeletons in his closet (Keating Five), this is why he has strong populist intentions.

Ronald Reagen is the prime example of how outsiders are treated.
 


What about W? He was a member of the ruling class if ever there was one. Member of a historically rich and powerful family with strong ties to government for at least three generations, Ivy League education and he is a member of a known "ruling class" secret society. I don't think that there has been a more hated president in the last 100 years, except for maybe Nixon.

Not even close.  Never a member of the bar, never a senator.  Elected to first political position as governor of Texas.  

Hated?  Only by the insane left.  Or anti-war communists.

 


So then how did he get to be the most powerful man in the world for 8 years?
7/19/2010 11:20:47 AM EDT
[#37]
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Sounds suspiciously like class warfare to me.

I think you guys are just jealous that these people are rich and powerful, and are using their wealth and power to their full advantage. Isn't that what America is all about? Isn't this what Neo-Conservatism teaches us? Doesn't Neo-Conservatism also teach us that spiteful envy towards those who are richer and more powerful that you is nothing more than a commie plot to destroy the fabric of American society? Shouldn't Rush be praising The Ruling Class for looking after their own self interests and using the system to elevate themselves to such lofty positions of power and wealth?

You miss the point.  Today's episode started out with the high school clique analogy.  The "clique of power" is EXCLUSIONARY in nature.  Conservatives welcome anyone willing to do the hard work.  Meritocracy compared to oligarchy.


 


So an average guy, like say a grunt fresh from Afghanistan or Iraq can't run for Congress and win? I think that there are more than a couple of members of the current Congress who would disagree with you quite vigorously.

They are not part of the "ruling class".  The one common denominator is the JD and admission to the bar.  While the RC doesn't require this, it is a fast ticket to membership.  Senator McCain is one example, of course they have access to the skeletons in his closet (Keating Five), this is why he has strong populist intentions.

Ronald Reagen is the prime example of how outsiders are treated.
 


What about W? He was a member of the ruling class if ever there was one. Member of a historically rich and powerful family with strong ties to government for at least three generations, Ivy League education and he is a member of a known "ruling class" secret society. I don't think that there has been a more hated president in the last 100 years, except for maybe Nixon.

Not even close.  Never a member of the bar, never a senator.  Elected to first political position as governor of Texas.  

Hated?  Only by the insane left.  Or anti-war communists.

 


Not even close to what?

George W Bush was and is a very model member of the American Ruling Class, his father was VP and President of the United States, he went to Yale, his grandfather was a senator, his brother was a governor.

A JD is not in the least bit required to be part of the "ruling class," which consists just as much of the people who set the agenda as the people who carry it out.

Political action is funded by the wealthy, who give money with the expectation that their own political beliefs will be promoted by the recipients.

These people are as much the 'ruling class' as the legislators and their staffs, if not more-so, on account of their permanent positions.

Rush Limbaugh is one of the good guys, a staunch republican, but if he's got some wild hair up his ass about lawyer apparatchiks ruling the country, he's off base.

7/19/2010 11:20:50 AM EDT
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Sounds suspiciously like class warfare to me.



I think you guys are just jealous that these people are rich and powerful, and are using their wealth and power to their full advantage. Isn't that what America is all about? Isn't this what Neo-Conservatism teaches us? Doesn't Neo-Conservatism also teach us that spiteful envy towards those who are richer and more powerful that you is nothing more than a commie plot to destroy the fabric of American society? Shouldn't Rush be praising The Ruling Class for looking after their own self interests and using the system to elevate themselves to such lofty positions of power and wealth?




Ya we're jealous of all those banker pigs who keep stealing our tax dollars in the form of government bail outs.
7/19/2010 11:25:01 AM EDT
[#39]



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Sounds suspiciously like class warfare to me.



I think you guys are just jealous that these people are rich and powerful, and are using their wealth and power to their full advantage. Isn't that what America is all about? Isn't this what Neo-Conservatism teaches us? Doesn't Neo-Conservatism also teach us that spiteful envy towards those who are richer and more powerful that you is nothing more than a commie plot to destroy the fabric of American society? Shouldn't Rush be praising The Ruling Class for looking after their own self interests and using the system to elevate themselves to such lofty positions of power and wealth?


You miss the point.  Today's episode started out with the high school clique analogy.  The "clique of power" is EXCLUSIONARY in nature.  Conservatives welcome anyone willing to do the hard work.  Meritocracy compared to oligarchy.





 




So an average guy, like say a grunt fresh from Afghanistan or Iraq can't run for Congress and win? I think that there are more than a couple of members of the current Congress who would disagree with you quite vigorously.


They are not part of the "ruling class".  The one common denominator is the JD and admission to the bar.  While the RC doesn't require this, it is a fast ticket to membership.  Senator McCain is one example, of course they have access to the skeletons in his closet (Keating Five), this is why he has strong populist intentions.



Ronald Reagen is the prime example of how outsiders are treated.

 




What about W? He was a member of the ruling class if ever there was one. Member of a historically rich and powerful family with strong ties to government for at least three generations, Ivy League education and he is a member of a known "ruling class" secret society. I don't think that there has been a more hated president in the last 100 years, except for maybe Nixon.


Not even close.  Never a member of the bar, never a senator.  Elected to first political position as governor of Texas.  



Hated?  Only by the insane left.  Or anti-war communists.



 




So then how did he get to be the most powerful man in the world for 8 years?


Because the other choices were inferior.



 
7/19/2010 11:25:10 AM EDT
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This is something I've been saying for a while.  Much of the division in this country is between upper class values (liberal) versus middle class values (conservative).  Now, the democrats are firmly in the upper class values camp and have been since the riots at the Chicago convention.  Republicans, while nominally the party of middle class values, are typically represented by people who, deep down, often have upper class values.  Why is this?  Because in a Republic of this size you need massive concentrations of wealth in order to be elected.  It takes millions of dollars to run for the House or Senate, and hundreds of millions to run for President.  Concentrations of wealth of this magnitude are most often found amongst urban elites, who are liberals.  When someone like Reagan gets elected it tends to be the exception rather than the rule.  This is why Republicans are always worried about their politicians going wobbly on them in a way liberals aren't.  


I wonder if, in the age of the internet, this paradigm could shift?
7/19/2010 11:25:57 AM EDT
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Sounds suspiciously like class warfare to me.

I think you guys are just jealous that these people are rich and powerful, and are using their wealth and power to their full advantage. Isn't that what America is all about? Isn't this what Neo-Conservatism teaches us? Doesn't Neo-Conservatism also teach us that spiteful envy towards those who are richer and more powerful that you is nothing more than a commie plot to destroy the fabric of American society? Shouldn't Rush be praising The Ruling Class for looking after their own self interests and using the system to elevate themselves to such lofty positions of power and wealth?

You miss the point.  Today's episode started out with the high school clique analogy.  The "clique of power" is EXCLUSIONARY in nature.  Conservatives welcome anyone willing to do the hard work.  Meritocracy compared to oligarchy.


 


So an average guy, like say a grunt fresh from Afghanistan or Iraq can't run for Congress and win? I think that there are more than a couple of members of the current Congress who would disagree with you quite vigorously.

They are not part of the "ruling class".  The one common denominator is the JD and admission to the bar.  While the RC doesn't require this, it is a fast ticket to membership.  Senator McCain is one example, of course they have access to the skeletons in his closet (Keating Five), this is why he has strong populist intentions.

Ronald Reagen is the prime example of how outsiders are treated.
 


What about W? He was a member of the ruling class if ever there was one. Member of a historically rich and powerful family with strong ties to government for at least three generations, Ivy League education and he is a member of a known "ruling class" secret society. I don't think that there has been a more hated president in the last 100 years, except for maybe Nixon.

Not even close.  Never a member of the bar, never a senator.  Elected to first political position as governor of Texas.  

Hated?  Only by the insane left.  Or anti-war communists.

 


The part that I heard was not endearing to the Bushes based on what happened with them at the helm after Reagan.
7/19/2010 11:26:13 AM EDT
[#42]
If you look at the elite in both political parties, Wall Street and the Main Stream Media, their backgrounds are amazingly similar.
7/19/2010 11:26:44 AM EDT
[#43]
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Sounds suspiciously like class warfare to me.

I think you guys are just jealous that these people are rich and powerful, and are using their wealth and power to their full advantage. Isn't that what America is all about? Isn't this what Neo-Conservatism teaches us? Doesn't Neo-Conservatism also teach us that spiteful envy towards those who are richer and more powerful that you is nothing more than a commie plot to destroy the fabric of American society? Shouldn't Rush be praising The Ruling Class for looking after their own self interests and using the system to elevate themselves to such lofty positions of power and wealth?


People should enjoy their own wealth

The ruling class however should not shit on the American people with fucked up laws and restrictions that ensure the top 2% have their interests served but the remaining 98% get raped in the ass
7/19/2010 11:27:52 AM EDT
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What do a lot of the elite have in common?

A Juris Doctorate degree and admission to the bar.  
 


Ivy League education in many cases too.

Did anyone else notice how contemptuous the elites are over Sarah Palin's public university education?  That tells you something right there...
7/19/2010 11:29:32 AM EDT
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Ronald Reagan is the prime example of how outsiders are treated.
 


No accident that the best President of out lifetimes was a graduate of Eureka College.
7/19/2010 11:32:19 AM EDT
[#46]
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Sounds suspiciously like class warfare to me.

I think you guys are just jealous that these people are rich and powerful, and are using their wealth and power to their full advantage. Isn't that what America is all about? Isn't this what Neo-Conservatism teaches us? Doesn't Neo-Conservatism also teach us that spiteful envy towards those who are richer and more powerful that you is nothing more than a commie plot to destroy the fabric of American society? Shouldn't Rush be praising The Ruling Class for looking after their own self interests and using the system to elevate themselves to such lofty positions of power and wealth?

You miss the point.  Today's episode started out with the high school clique analogy.  The "clique of power" is EXCLUSIONARY in nature.  Conservatives welcome anyone willing to do the hard work.  Meritocracy compared to oligarchy.


 


So an average guy, like say a grunt fresh from Afghanistan or Iraq can't run for Congress and win? I think that there are more than a couple of members of the current Congress who would disagree with you quite vigorously.

They are not part of the "ruling class".  The one common denominator is the JD and admission to the bar.  While the RC doesn't require this, it is a fast ticket to membership.  Senator McCain is one example, of course they have access to the skeletons in his closet (Keating Five), this is why he has strong populist intentions.

Ronald Reagen is the prime example of how outsiders are treated.
 


What about W? He was a member of the ruling class if ever there was one. Member of a historically rich and powerful family with strong ties to government for at least three generations, Ivy League education and he is a member of a known "ruling class" secret society. I don't think that there has been a more hated president in the last 100 years, except for maybe Nixon.

Not even close.  Never a member of the bar, never a senator.  Elected to first political position as governor of Texas.  

Hated?  Only by the insane left.  Or anti-war communists.

 


Not even close to what?

George W Bush was and is a very model member of the American Ruling Class, his father was VP and President of the United States, he went to Yale, his grandfather was a senator, his brother was a governor.

A JD is not in the least bit required to be part of the "ruling class," which consists just as much of the people who set the agenda as the people who carry it out.

Political action is funded by the wealthy, who give money with the expectation that their own political beliefs will be promoted by the recipients.

These people are as much the 'ruling class' as the legislators and their staffs, if not more-so, on account of their permanent positions.

Rush Limbaugh is one of the good guys, a staunch republican, but if he's got some wild hair up his ass about lawyer apparatchiks ruling the country, he's off base.



I don't think that the JD is the sole determining factor. It is just, perhaps, an easier way in for those who do not begin, as W did, born into the "ruling class". Keith is right in that other choices were inferior, but W with his "compassionate conservatism" is not cut from the whole conservative cloth that Reagan and Goldwater were cut from. He may have cloaked himself in it but he was not and is not a Goldwater acolyte, nor a true conservative.

Beats the shit out of what would have happened with Gore at the helm. For that I am thankful.

7/19/2010 11:33:44 AM EDT
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Ronald Reagan is the prime example of how outsiders are treated.
 


No accident that the best President of out lifetimes was a graduate of Eureka College.


As much as I would like to see an Aggie in the White House, the closest one with a chance (Perry) makes me nervous.
7/19/2010 11:34:28 AM EDT
[#48]
Quoted:Did anyone else notice how contemptuous the elites are over Sarah Palin's public university education?  That tells you something right there...


Important point!

The "Best and Brightest" my ass...
7/19/2010 11:34:34 AM EDT
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He was probably riffing on this piece by Angelo Codevilla:

http://spectator.org/archives/2010/07/16/americas-ruling-class-and-the/print


Today's ruling class, from Boston to San Diego, was formed by an educational system that exposed them to the same ideas and gave them remarkably uniform guidance, as well as tastes and habits. These amount to a social canon of judgments about good and evil, complete with secular sacred history, sins (against minorities and the environment), and saints. Using the right words and avoiding the wrong ones when referring to such matters –– speaking the "in" language –– serves as a badge of identity. Regardless of what business or profession they are in, their road up included government channels and government money because, as government has grown, its boundary with the rest of American life has become indistinct. Many began their careers in government and leveraged their way into the private sector. Some, e.g., Secretary of the Treasury Timothy Geithner, never held a non-government job. Hence whether formally in government, out of it, or halfway, America's ruling class speaks the language and has the tastes, habits, and tools of bureaucrats. It rules uneasily over the majority of Americans not oriented to government.
7/19/2010 11:35:43 AM EDT
[#50]
Its long over due to throw all the self center bums out in washington.  It seems to little matter any more whether their names have a D or R after them.  I have become a firm believer in term limits.
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