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9/16/2011 12:30:20 PM EDT

Does anyone know of a good book that outlines what antibiotic(s) to use for what type of infection ?


9/16/2011 12:46:29 PM EDT
[#2]
There is no one book that will give you all of the answers.

Sanford's Antitiotic guide is good, but you have to bring the microbiology experience and microscope.  Any given infection may be caused by a variety of organisms.  Or just throw FishMox at it; that seems to be the ar15.com panacea.
9/16/2011 1:15:35 PM EDT
[#3]


First post and all that.

Pay attention to Gray Man's posts.
9/16/2011 2:49:18 PM EDT
[#4]
Go to the book store for your local med school and you'll find a number of great pocket references.  Small, portable, easy to use and in plain English.  I'll try to scan a laminated card I picked up a while ago that's been useful.
9/16/2011 3:03:28 PM EDT
[#5]
Like this:



9/16/2011 3:09:07 PM EDT
[#6]
No, no, no and no. If you have to ask which antibiotic for which infection it means you shouldn't be prescribing yourself or others antibiotics, even if it's the end of the world.






You must know some medical personnel, a doctor, a nurse, someone. Ask them, get an educated opinion. Find a primary care provider that'll take the time and listen to you, ask the doctor about some extra prescriptions to keep on hand. Hell, tell him you'll go for a tour around the world on your sailboat.







Bottom line is educate yourself first. You can't just read about this, you have to talk to someone who knows his stuff face to face.







Antibiotics seem innocuous, hell they help you fight off germs, right? Giving a pregnant woman fish antibiotics without consulting a doctor and bam, you have a miscarriage/child born with birth defects. There are also infections which should absolutely NOT EVER be treated with SOME antibiotics. There are infections which shouldn't be treated AT ALL WITH ANY antibiotics. Seriously, you could get yourself or someone killed with something as simple as semi-synthetic penicillin. Especially if you're moving from a half educated point after looking up something without knowing what you're really reading. In some book you pick off the shelves of some medical bookstore.







Do yourself and all your loved ones a favor and talk to a doctor first.




EDIT: Use of the above chart by anyone but a doctor is EXTREMELY DANGEROUS.

 
9/16/2011 3:20:17 PM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:

EDIT: Use of the above chart by anyone but a doctor is EXTREMELY DANGEROUS.
 



Well that's not alarmist at all.
9/16/2011 3:34:13 PM EDT
[#8]
That thread linked above is 14 pages with numerous posts by several doctors.

Sigh...this is why we can't have anything nice.

9/16/2011 3:36:20 PM EDT
[#9]
hmm - some sources aside from Dave Gilbert's little book (Sanford guide) -
www.pusware.com
www.hopkinsguides.com
www.epocrates.com
www.uptodate.com

Good luck



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9/16/2011 4:48:45 PM EDT
[#10]
The Sanford Guide

9/16/2011 4:52:16 PM EDT
[#11]
This is good, up to date, and readable for a laymen

As for the guys with the microscopes, my doc has prescribed ABs without doing a culture on most occasions for me and my children (in fact, other than strep, I can't remember them ever testing). I know there is some risk/complications to doing that, but if the SHTF, there will be plenty of Docs and no meds.

http://www.amazon.com/Johns-Hopkins-ABX-Guide-Infectious/dp/0763781088
9/16/2011 6:55:01 PM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
This is good, up to date, and readable for a laymen

As for the guys with the microscopes, my doc has prescribed ABs without doing a culture on most occasions for me and my children (in fact, other than strep, I can't remember them ever testing). I know there is some risk/complications to doing that, but if the SHTF, there will be plenty of Docs and no meds.

http://www.amazon.com/Johns-Hopkins-ABX-Guide-Infectious/dp/0763781088


I can remember back when I was a kid when us kids would get sick my mom calling the doctor and getting prescriptions over the phone. It was always for things we got all the time though - ear infections mostly.

I am not a fan of amateurs dispensing presription drugs though. OTOH, I suppose there is a case to be made for someone in an isolated enough situation having some of them available just in case.

However, this is a lot like the people who insist on backfeeding their generators into their electrical system with a suicide cord. A lot of times you get away with it, so people start to think it is safe because it did not kill them.
9/16/2011 7:19:29 PM EDT
[#13]
If you are trying to learn for your yourself, start with a nursing microbiology text book geared towards RNs.  It's slightly dumbed down from the 400 level science class, and more focused on theory that applies in the real world.  (Of course this sounds like an insult to RNs, but physics major say this about engineering texts, and engineers say this about books written for machinist, ham operators,etc.)

Then everything in the Stanfords will make sense.  Then (at a minimum) copy the pages from the PDR for that particular drug.  This is the one primary source for dosing, known contraindications, side effects, drug interactions, etc.

Quoted:
Does anyone know of a good book that outlines what antibiotic(s) to use for what type of infection ?


Thats the easy part.  It's figuring the type of infection that may be hard (ie strep vs viral).  The best thing about a family doctor is the first 10 patients are gunea pigs, but they rapidly figure out what AB is good for what people in their town have.