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Posted: 8/26/2018 3:08:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: SuperJlarge]
[#1]
Dude is a beast.
Extremely fast follow up shots, suppressor resting on the ruck, and still puts out impressive groups. Where’s that barrel pointed..... Mike_P, non magnified  Mike_P shooting MOA all day for AR15.com |
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Posted: 8/28/2018 8:14:21 PM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By akethan: IIRC Mike-P also did some shooting for the Army. |
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Posted: 8/31/2018 12:36:15 PM EDT
[#3]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GAhunter95:
I'm not a precision shooter. I am the host and range owner for the GA HTF MOA shoot. A week before the first MOA shoot, I realized that I may not have an AR15 rifle that would shoot sub MOA. As the host, I felt I better have the hardware on hand to do the challenge successfully. LaRue Tactical had graciously offered to sponsor the shoot, and I probably should have asked for a loaner upper to be used during the shoot, but by the time I figured this all out, it was one week until show time. There was no guarantee I could get a barrel or an upper in a week. So off to the EE I went, and it was the only upper FS at that time that was proven to be sub MOA. I wasn't looking for the #1 upper from the challenge, but there it was, and I was running out of time. At MOA #1 there were 10 or 12 people who were unable to shoot sub MOA with their own gear but were able to with this upper using different types of ammo. I have shot the upper at each MOA shoot and have been sub MOA. I've shot for groups 4 times in 3 years. My 5th time will be in 2 months. It's nice having an upper that makes MOA stupid simple though  Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GAhunter95:
Originally Posted By winddummy82:
@GAhunter95 what is the best 5 round MOA group you got out of it? At MOA #1 there were 10 or 12 people who were unable to shoot sub MOA with their own gear but were able to with this upper using different types of ammo. I have shot the upper at each MOA shoot and have been sub MOA. I've shot for groups 4 times in 3 years. My 5th time will be in 2 months. It's nice having an upper that makes MOA stupid simple though A LOT of people borrowed that upper that day to shoot with it. Many of us didn't have good equipment at the time but have since upgraded in the following years. A bunch of the people that shot it that day used FGMM 77, the same match ammo MikeP apparently used. A lot of folks shot sub MOA but nobody got close to a .340 average completed target. I'd love to take another crack at it with that upper and FGMM or similar. |
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MN, USA
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Posted: 9/15/2018 7:12:37 PM EDT
[#4]
Brewing up one for the wall of claim
https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/Heavy-barrels-are-the-next-obsolete-firearm-feature-Convince-me-I-m-wrong-/5-2146921/ |
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Posted: 9/16/2018 3:48:22 PM EDT
[#5]
The LaRue hosted target link in the OP is dead. I found the target here:
https://www.larue.com/downloads/target-4up-download/target-1-moa-arfcom/ |
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Posted: 9/17/2018 7:12:05 PM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NotUrLawyer:
The LaRue hosted target link in the OP is dead. I found the target here: https://www.larue.com/downloads/target-4up-download/target-1-moa-arfcom/ |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 9/27/2018 3:02:10 PM EDT
[Last Edit: jpgolffl]
[#7]
I can't resist the Valkyrie anymore. Selling my Larue 5.56 barrel that sits at #8 on the board to make the switch. Who wants to beat me with my own barrel?
https://www.ar15.com/forums/equipment-exchange/WTS-Larue-18-Stealth-8-on-MOA-all-day-comp-/159-1807432/ |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 10/2/2018 8:42:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AZ-AR15]
[#8]
Failed attempt today. Didn't do all five since it wasn't good enough and these rounds are $1.50 a pop. That... and the ungodly flyer in the center bolt face from group 3
 Started in top right and worked counter-clockwise. I clearly rushed groups 2 and 3. Next time.
Upper is a 16" Teppo Jutsu 458 w/ a 1-4 AccuPower on a LaRue mount. Lower is sporting the Vltor A5 buffer system and a MBT. Barne's 300 TAC-TX over Lil Gun. Harris Bipod and Crosstac rear bag. Yes, I'm trimming my nails tonight.   
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Posted: 10/2/2018 8:57:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: GAhunter95]
[#9]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AZ-AR15:
Failed attempt today. Didn't do all five since it wasn't good enough and these rounds are $1.50 a pop. That... and the ungodly flyer in the center bolt face from group 3 Started in top right and worked counter-clockwise. I clearly rushed groups 2 and 3. Next time.
Upper is a 16" Teppo Jutsu 458 w/ a 1-4 AccuPower on a LaRue mount. Lower is sporting the Vltor A5 buffer system and a MBT. Barne's 300 TAC-TX over Lil Gun. Harris Bipod and Crosstac rear bag. Yes, I'm trimming my nails tonight. https://i.imgur.com/sTeDOKd.jpg?1https://i.imgur.com/eMK1gEa.jpg?1https://i.imgur.com/TQ6LNw6.jpg?1 |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 10/2/2018 9:27:36 PM EDT
[#10]
The rifle is certainly capable. Me, on the other hand... 
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Posted: 10/3/2018 8:25:57 AM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AZ-AR15:
The rifle is certainly capable. Me, on the other hand... |
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Posted: 10/30/2018 11:07:50 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GAhunter95: I'm guessing that has to be the first 458 socom attempting the challenge!
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Posted: 11/25/2018 10:15:58 PM EDT
[#13]
Might get out to the range again next month to give it another go.
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Posted: 2/6/2019 5:59:31 PM EDT
[#14]
Hello,
Considering purchasing a Harris S-BRM bipod which I often see in the Moa all day threads. I watched a YouTube video on Bipod use and he had an atlas ($$$) but explained loading the bipod showing how the rifle can move back and forward on with the legs remaining in one position and explained the impact of this on how the rifle handles recoil when used with the rifle in a forward position relative to the feet at the shot. Does the Harris S-BRM also load in this manner? |
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Posted: 2/6/2019 11:17:55 PM EDT
[#15]
@riflenoob
You can load either bipod, but the Atlas is easier. I’ve shot sub .2moa groups with both, and it usually comes down to trigger control and good fundamentals over equipment. |
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Posted: 2/9/2019 5:29:55 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SuperJlarge:
@riflenoob You can load either bipod, but the Atlas is easier. I’ve shot sub .2moa groups with both, and it usually comes down to trigger control and good fundamentals over equipment. |
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Posted: 2/17/2019 7:50:21 PM EDT
[#17]
Is it time for a new thread? Seems like the updates have slowed down in the results thread.
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Posted: 2/17/2019 8:27:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: akethan]
[#18]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SuperJlarge:
Is it time for a new thread? Seems like the updates have slowed down in the results thread. |
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Posted: 2/17/2019 9:51:18 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By akethan: LOL, shoot more. You had the only entry in January. |
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Posted: 2/17/2019 10:11:50 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SuperJlarge: Yea, but I’m curious if a new thread, without the previously discussed issues would change that. |
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Posted: 2/17/2019 10:15:57 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By akethan:
It is what it is. If you don't want to post up that is up to you. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By akethan:
Originally Posted By SuperJlarge: Yea, but I’m curious if a new thread, without the previously discussed issues would change that. |
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Posted: 2/17/2019 10:26:34 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SuperJlarge: Guess we could test the theory and just start a new thread.
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Posted: 2/17/2019 10:30:52 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SuperJlarge:
Guess we could test the theory and just start a new thread. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SuperJlarge:
Originally Posted By akethan:
Originally Posted By SuperJlarge: Yea, but I'm curious if a new thread, without the previously discussed issues would change that. 
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Posted: 2/17/2019 10:41:50 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By akethan:
That's a great way to become #1. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By akethan:
Originally Posted By SuperJlarge: Guess we could test the theory and just start a new thread. But..isn’t that how Mike_P got to the top in the challenge? LOL
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Posted: 2/17/2019 10:48:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: slappomatt]
[#25]
go or no go?
 after reading through more of the thread I am thinking probably no, Ill have to get a smaller squeeze bag. |
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Posted: 2/28/2019 10:20:54 AM EDT
[#26]
if someone would make this hot please. great article about barrel accuracy. ENJOY!
https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2019/02/matt-sandy/the-best-ar-15-barrels-and-makers/?fbclid=IwAR3MvRfLul9J4pqqOkNLXQA23s2ICGPMfc45rvbfb8hwh2q35PK1Kd6RsG8 |
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Posted: 3/5/2019 10:48:27 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By slappomatt:
go or no go? https://media.mwstatic.com/product-images/880x660/Primary/923/webp/923713.webp after reading through more of the thread I am thinking probably no, Ill have to get a smaller squeeze bag. |
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Posted: 3/9/2019 12:32:08 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SuperJlarge:
Is it time for a new thread? Seems like the updates have slowed down in the results thread. That should make it easier to get my name close to the top. That is after all what this is about, not a friendly competition. Just trying to understand... |
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Posted: 3/9/2019 6:48:29 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SpeyRod: Just so I understand, when the competition gets tough we start a new thread? That should make it easier to get my name close to the top. That is after all what this is about, not a friendly competition. Just trying to understand... And, the backhanded comments by 2 LT fanboys is hilarious. The thing that you are stating, the moving of a name to the top, is exactly what AKETHAN did with Mike_P and his LT..or what he purports as being his 100yd groups. If it was friendly competition, and had no bearings on potential marketing, the questionable results would have been removed long ago. The results that clearly violated the rules would have also been removed, but they were not. |
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Posted: 3/9/2019 9:56:59 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SuperJlarge: You’re not understanding. The thread isn’t really getting a lot of attention, so I figured that a new thread may increase the participation. You know, kind of how the previous threads were superseded by that one. It had nothing to do with the blatant bias that that thread commonly showed. And, the backhanded comments by 2 LT fanboys is hilarious. The thing that you are stating, the moving of a name to the top, is exactly what AKETHAN did with Mike_P and his LT..or what he purports as being his 100yd groups. If it was friendly competition, and had no bearings on potential marketing, the questionable results would have been removed long ago. The results that clearly violated the rules would have also been removed, but they were not. If you had a beef with his entry you should have spoke up when it was made not years after. The first thread lasted 109 days and the second 93 days. Today makes 2,037 days since I was given custody. Hundreds of folks have been added since then of all makes and models. |
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USA
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Posted: 3/21/2019 11:41:04 AM EDT
[Last Edit: greenheadcaller]
[#31]
So much whining ..... either shoot and let the guy running it decide and live with it it or don't shoot it
If someone thinks the whole thing is BS, don’t submit an entry, move along, and be happy. If you think it’s BS, and you’ve already shot it... ask the man to disregard your entry (pretty sure he offered to do so) move along, and be happy. I have less faith in the intestinal fortitude of some in the shooting community every day lately, hopefully this will pass. It’s an honor system shoot, not the holy grail. (Although it would be the holy grail if I were #1) = humor intended |
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USA
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Posted: 3/21/2019 12:05:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: greenheadcaller]
[#32]
Speaking of humor ..... here is another Wall of Claimer
Claimant is Trollslayer Post #5 in this linked thread Originally Posted By Trollslayer: .........Every time I test, Varget yields better accuracy than TAC (1/2 MOA vs 3/4 MOA at 200 yards)....... Originally Posted By Trollslayer: ......Accuracy without annealing is as good or better than I can shoot (<1/2 MOA). I don't make bad ammo ........... the 20th post in the same thread Originally Posted By Trollslayer: My rifle shoots reloads with up to ten sizings into 1/2 MOA at 200 yards without annealing. Originally Posted By Trollslayer: ...In my own shooting without annealing, I see no accuracy loss over time (changes with increasing number of reloads). The rifle and shooter get 1/2 MOA on first firing and with as many as ten reloads later, I'm still seeing 1/2 MOA... Oh, and 1/2 MOA if he's shooting his 200 yard Varget test load. Priceless. Look out top five, you have some competition. (I don't know if Trollslayer shoots a Larue, will have to wait and see) |
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Posted: 3/21/2019 2:28:11 PM EDT
[#33]
Realistically, that's probably an average (say 0.25-0.75). But TS likely has a die fit to his chamber, so I ain't putting money against him.
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USA
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Posted: 3/21/2019 3:11:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: greenheadcaller]
[#34]
Originally Posted By HighpowerRifleBrony:
Realistically, that's probably an average (say 0.25-0.75). But TS likely has a die fit to his chamber, so I ain't putting money against him. I do agree with you though HPRBro.... it really shouldn't be hard for him, all he's gotta do is use one of his varget loads, easy peasy ...... after all HE says "EVERY TIME" he tests it, its 1/2 MOA at 200...... Post #5 linked above. In the linked post, he even went so far as to note his accuracy tests are typically around 100 round tests (at 200 yds of course). Originally Posted By Trollslayer:
The accuracy and SD numbers given above are for large sample tests (# of samples, n>20, typically about 100 samples). Every Stinkin Time, Varget, 200 yards, 1/2 MOA..... never a mistake.....now that's impressive. Must be one heck of a wind doper, or shooting in a tube. Every Time |
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Posted: 3/23/2019 12:06:15 AM EDT
[#35]
Waiting to shoot my new Bergara XLR B17 LRP 6 mm creed mounted w/ MK5 HD 5-25 TMR.....I’m still on the wall of shame
 Are we still bipod only, no rear support? What is monopod verdict? |
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Posted: 3/23/2019 12:19:25 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AmericanCheese:
Waiting to shoot my new Bergara XLR B17 LRP 6 mm creed mounted w/ MK5 HD 5-25 TMR.....I’m still on the wall of shame Are we still bipod only, no rear support? What is monopod verdict? |
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Posted: 3/27/2019 10:12:24 AM EDT
[Last Edit: erud]
[#37]
Hey guys,
I don't ever shoot at 100, so this isn't the approved target or COF. Just wanted to see what you think of this target I shot from prone with a sling (no bipod, sandbags, etc) last night at 600 yards with my old iron-sighted .308 and Sierra 2156's. It's the NRA MR1 target, so the X-ring is a 6" circle. I had 3 shots out of the 22 that were out of the x-ring that kept it from being sub-MOA, but I thought it was still pretty decent. 
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Posted: 3/27/2019 2:35:09 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By erud:
Hey guys, I don't ever shoot at 100, so this isn't the approved target or COF. Just wanted to see what you guys think of this target I shot from prone with a sling last night at 600 yards with my old iron-sighted .308 and Sierra 2156's. It's the NRA MR1 target, so the X-ring is a 6" circle. I had 3 shots out of the 22 that kept it from being MOA, but I thought it was still pretty decent. http://i63.tinypic.com/2q87i93.png |
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Posted: 11/20/2019 8:29:03 AM EDT
[#39]
Not necessarily a submission but I shot this 52 yard group yesterday while testing SK Standard in the Vudoo 22LR rifle, bipod, rear squeeze bag.
 Attached FileBottom two groups were included even though they are larger due to scope adjustments. I'm going to give it a go at 100 sometime soon. |
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Posted: 11/20/2019 12:10:02 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sigman68:
Not necessarily a submission but I shot this 52 yard group yesterday while testing SK Standard in the Vudoo 22LR rifle, bipod, rear squeeze bag. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/26010/20191119_145921_jpg-1167429.JPG Bottom two groups were included even though they are larger due to scope adjustments. I'm going to give it a go at 100 sometime soon. |
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Posted: 12/15/2019 8:46:49 PM EDT
[#41]
LaRue's Siete, Not too shabby
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Posted: 12/21/2019 8:51:20 PM EDT
[Last Edit: doc540]
[#42]
Bone stock, cheap Anderson with a 6lb 13oz trigger and a used, $150 Mueller scope
still #77 with a .909 after all these years 
 Attached FileThe Simple Life  Attached File |
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Posted: 12/23/2019 10:25:59 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lug1:
LaRue's Siete, Not too shabby https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/333874/larue-1197466.jpg |
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Posted: 1/9/2022 12:15:40 PM EDT
[#44]
Quite a few non-entry posts in the challenge thread lately, so I'll bump this.
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Posted: 1/9/2022 5:34:23 PM EDT
[#45]
I was looking for this as well. Been working on thing to make an entry in the bolt gun division. Here are two of my recent targets.
 Attached File Attached FileKind of waiting for a sub .5” target… |
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Posted: 1/9/2022 5:36:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: SpeyRod]
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Posted: 1/21/2023 9:37:32 PM EDT
[#47]
I am still working on shooting a sub .5 moa target. Playing with neck tension today shot these. Three groups with 1.5 thou tension and two with 3 thou tension. The gap seams to like less tension. Center group was clean cold bore. Group above, one of my best, was the second group. All 5 shot groups with the 139 Scenar over H4350. These targets suck for measuring groups but these 5 figure to about .524 moa. I definitely need a mirage cover for the can! Got very challenging after the third group!
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Posted: 1/28/2023 7:34:47 PM EDT
[#48]
And another. Should have skipped the coffee this am. Might have broken the elusive.5 moa.
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Posted: 5/13/2023 5:32:07 PM EDT
[#49]
This is my humble first attempt at working up a load to attempt the MOA challenge. Homemade rifle with a Larue 18” Predatar barrel, MBT, and a 5-25X56 Vortex Venom. Hand loaded 62gr FMJBT over 748. I doubt this combination is optimal for precision shooting but it’s what I had on hand. Not sure what happened at 23.1.
Is it worth chasing MOA All Day with this bullet and powder combo, or should I order some 77s and Varget? Or something else?  Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 5/13/2023 6:35:12 PM EDT
[#50]
Nice shooting
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