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Posted: 10/17/2014 7:28:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/17/2018 7:11:00 PM EDT by akethan]
1 MOA ALL DAY LONG

Alright guys and girls, to time hit the range again.

Thanks to the previous folks that worked on this in the past  Stantonizm, ARFCOM originator  BillyDoubleU and to the Sniper's Hide originator.

Old threads

Akethan's 2013-2014  GD Thread

Stantonizm's

2013   MOA Thread

BillyDoubleU's

2012  Original ARFCOM thread

ARFcom MOA history

This is the Official “How Good Are You” thread of AR15.com

What is it? It’s a challenge to all to prove how good you really are with a rifle! Not sometimes but consistently.

Keep it simple 5 shot groups, 5 groups per target

1 MOA = 100 Yards = 1.047"
––––––––-50 Yards = 0.5235"
––––––––-25 Yards = 0.26175"

Top 25 for each division

Separate list of 1 MOA shooters and a separate list for .5 MOA shooters.

REMEMBER this, all 5 groups of 5 shots must AVERAGE 1 MOA to make the list and claim the title of being a 1 MOA shooter.

Doing one .99" group and four 1.5" groups does not equal a 1 MOA shooter, it means you got lucky once and you are a 1.398 MOA shooter (assuming a 100 yard target)

This is a challenge but don't be afraid to try it out and post, every possible rifle style has been listed with a category and a distance. It's all in good fun and to be honest about your abilities.

With that in mind here are the rules.

1. ONE sheet of paper, 8.5”x11” preferred and it MUST HAVE ALL 5 targets.

Meaning 1 sheet of paper with FIVE targets. NO INDIVIDUAL TARGETS. THEY WILL NOT COUNT.

2. On that 1 sheet of paper with 5 targets you shoot 5 groups of 5 shots each. (In one day)

3. Each group is measured OUTSIDE GREASE RING TO OUTSIDE GREASE RING with calipers (preferred) or tape rule in inches. Then subtract the diameter of one bullet IE if your shooting a .223 and your 5 shot group measures 1.13" you will subtract 0.224" to get a group of 0.906". If you are shooting a .22lr you will subtract 0.223", for a 308 you will subtract 0.308" (Remember- the more precise your measurement the better)

Some common measurements:
.172" - .17 HMR
.223" - .22 Short, Long, Long Rifle
.224" - .223 Remington, .22 WMR, .22 Hornet
.243" - .243 Winchester
.284" - 7mm-08 Remington, 7mm Mag
.308" - .308 Winchester, .30-06, .300 Mag
.311" - 7.62x39 Soviet, .303 British
.338" - .338 Mag

4. NO MECHANICAL REST/SLED, NO VICE OR SIMILAR DEVICE THAT SUPPORTS THE ENITRE RIFLE, NO SHOOTING JACKETS, NO STRAPPING THE GUN INTO ANYTHING, NO LARGE REAR SANDBAG ** OR REST. SHOOTER MUST HAVE POSITIVE CONTROL OF RIFLE.

THE POINT IS TO SEE HOW GOOD YOU SHOOT, NOT HOW WELL YOU CAN MOUNT IT IN A MACHINE.

5. OK TO USE sandbag, rest, ruck, bipod, rock with a hat, sling etc. on forearm of the rifle.

**Will be OK to use a small rear sandbag (ie: sand sock or squeeze bag) or bean bag  that must require constant hand pressure to maintain hold on target.

IE. Can NOT sandbag gun in place. Shooter must maintain positive control of rifle. No formed or V-shaped rests/bags

Some approved bags

Triad Red Tac

Triad Wedgie

CrossTac Squeeze bag

Accuracy First shooting bag

*** After much gnashing of the teeth we'll set the limit of size at the largest bag on the list which is 96 C.I.  Try to stay at or below this.

But remember that there must be constant hand pressure to maintain hold on target.

IE. Can NOT sandbag gun in place. Shooter must maintain positive control of rifle. No formed or V-shaped rests/bags. I'm sure someone will IM me or bitch about this but I can't make everyone happy. Have Fun!

6. Shooting position is up to you, sitting, standing, prone.

7. Posting:

1st picture of target set at the range you are shooting. If you are shooting more than one rifle at the same range using the same pic is okay.

2nd picture with 5 groups of 5 shots each, next to them write down group size.

3rd picture with calipers (or tape rule) left in place over BEST group.

4th picture of rifle and shooting setup (ie. Sandbag, prone and so on). Post all4 pics and also type in the post your 5 group sizes and what the average is. IE. .99”, 1.5”, 1.5”, 1.5”, 1.5” add them up, equals 6.99” and divide by five. So 6.99/5 = 1.398”

You can use the MOA formula, either way I will check the math and post the MOA on the result list.

For those of you who would like to use ontarget,   http://ontargetshooting.com/

Also type up specs of your rifle and ammo IE. Rem 700 with 168gr Federal SMK or Colt AR15 18" with Wolf 55gr FMJ or AK with 125gr Hand Loads PLEASE INCLUDE AMMO USED

*** Please include result at the end of your post in the final format:

Division you wish to be listed under with range, User_Name: Rifle Manufacturer and caliber - notable customizations- Scope- Ammo. Groups: 1"/2"/3"/4"/5" = avg. 3" = .287 MOA


If you do not post in this format or leave anything out your post will not be included.

8. In each division you can only have your name up once per gun. Meaning that if you shoot the Iron Sight 22lr with your 10/22 and average a 1.65” group and lets say place 4th. If you use that same gun and do worse, even if you would place better then someone else it will not count for your group. Best group counts.

Now if you then shoot Iron Sight 22lr with your M&P 15-22 and shoot better, say 1.25” average groups and place 2nd. Both that score and the 10/22 score will remain. Different guns will be allowed for different group rankings within a division. Best group counts.

This also goes for the 1 MOA list. Meaning only your best MOA will be ranked on the 1 MOA list BUT if you also shoot 1 MOA or less with a different rifle, that will also count and your name will be added to the list for each different rifle you shoot 1 MOA or less with.

9. Remember, this is NOT a Bullseye challenge, it's a Groups challenge.

10. Any and all ammo is fine I don't care if you use Factory loads or your super secret Hand Load that Moses gave you.

11. Ties in average will go to the shooter with the smallest group.

Service Division (AR/AK/FAL/M1A1 etc style weapons)
Iron sights at 50 yards

Non-Magnified Optic at 50 yards

SPR Division (AR/AK/FAL/M1A etc WITH magnified optics) **See rule 5
100 yards

Bolt Division with magnified optics (any precision gun) ** See rule 5
100 yards

And for cheapness a 22lr Division

Any 22lr rifle with iron sights at 25 yards

Any 22lr rifle with non-magnified optic at 50 yards

Any 22lr rifle with magnified optic at 50 yards

Any 22lr rifle with magnified optic at 100 yards

Misc Small Bore Division
Any .17HMR/.17HM2/.17Fireball/.22WMR/.22 Hornet etc etc etc with any sighting system (Irons/nonmagnified/magnified) at 100 yards **See Rule 5

Unlimited Division
Catch-all class for anyone wishing to use a lead-sled, large sandbag set-up, or other assisting device prohibited from the other classes. 50yd minimum for non magnified optic rifles and 100 yd minimum for magnified optics of all calibers. Does not qualify you for MOA shooter list, but will be recognized as an MOA rifle owner. Further more if you have shot the same setup and are listed in a class you will not be eligible for unlimited. Let's not turn this into a full blown bench rest shoot.

Click to download target
Downloadable target

Small BFL Target

Modified 1MOA All Day Target MUAD hosted

ARFcom BFL w/grid target  LaRue hosted.

MOA formula

How many MOA equal 2 inches at 200 yards?
(inches / yards) x 100 = MOA
(2 inches / 200 yards) x 100 = 1 MOA

This is for those that want to put up an honest effort and show what they can do!

If you post a placeholder for a future attempt, be sure and notify me if you are not updated!

If entries start coming in and you post your results back on an earlier page, I might miss it if you don't point it out.
Link Posted: 10/17/2014 7:28:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/4/2020 3:43:26 PM EDT by akethan]
SPR Division (AR/AK/FAL/M1A etc WITH magnified optics) at 100 yards........



1.Mike_P: Larue Stealth upper .223 Rem 18"/13.2" - Predatobr Black gold trigger + Atlas Bipod + A2 stock - 12x SWFA SS in LT104, 77gr FGMM, Groups 0.597 / 0.345 / 0.249 / 0.248 / 0.265 = avg .340 MOA

2. dpmmn  16" LaRue PredatAR barrel MBT Trigger Federal TRU T233F Nosler BT 55gr Bushnell 1-6.5x24 .482 .490 .582 .583.457 /.5188" =.4955 MOA

3.TheKnack: Homebuilt Larue 20" .223- Harris Bipod-Weaver 3x15-ADI 69 grain SMK: .512/.806/.272/.414/.602= avg. .521=.497 MOA

4. billyhill-, WOA Match upper 1-8" Wylde 223, RRA Lower, Weaver T-36, 21.5 gr Reloder 7 / 52 gr SMK / LC new brass / Rem 71/2, Groups: 0.425/0.515/0.469/0.716/0.801 = .702 /5 = 0.5404/1.047 = 0.516 MOA

5.AR-180 SPR Division: AR-15 from varmint 24" bull barrel kit. 3.5x21 Bushnell. 77 gr Nosler BTHP, 23.2 XBR 8208. 0.318/0.439/0.598/0.676/0.793 = avg 0.5648 = 0.5394 moa

6.Lennyo3034: Home build 223, Krieger 7.7 twist, March F 3-24X42, 77SMK over 8208. Groups: .568"/.526"/.661"/.503"/.581"= .568" average= .542 MOA

7.Mike_P: Larue Stealth barreled 20" 5.56 upper - Larue MBT Trigger + Atlas Bipod + PRS stock - 12x SWFA SS in LT104, 77gr FGMM, Groups 0.459 / 0.553 / 0.611 / 0.433 / 0.661 = avg .543 MOA

8.JPgolffl, Home built mega MKM, Larue stealth 18 inch, Leupold MK4 3.5–10, tactical yoga mat,LC Varget SMK77 handloads.0.934+0.741+0.743+0.818+0.800/5= 0.8072-0.224=0.5832/1.047=0.5570MOA

9.Mike_P: Larue 12" 5.56 Stealth with SilencerCo Specwar K - Bushnell 4.5-18x40 in an LT104, Norma 77gr Match (SMK), Groups 0.521 / 0.884 / 0.314 / 0.560 / 0.510 = avg .5578 MOA

10. Face454 20" Krieger Barrel home build .223, SWFA 20X scope, reloads: .592, .50, .657, .533, .716. Average MOA = .5727

11..Jaqufrost: Home build 5.56 - Larue 20" barrel, Larue BCG, Geissele High Speed Match- Bushnell XRS 4.5-30, H-59 reticle - 77gr SMK over 23.5gr Varget. Groups: .568"/.764"/.682"/.577"/.685" = avg. .655" =.585 MOA

12. sommere54 - SPR with magnified optic, 100 yds - LT 20" barrel, MBT, JP SCS, Burris E1 4.5-14x, - handloads: 69 SMK, 23.4 gr. 8208 XBR - Groups: 0.378" + 0.566" + 0.676" + 0.756" + 0.794" = 3.17" / 5 = 0.634 / 1.047 = 0.606 MOA

13.Potss: Home Built, 16in LW poly rifled medium , Hiperfire EDT, CAV-15 Stock, SWFA 10x42- 55gr Berger HSM loaded. Groups: 0.427"/0.462"/0.657"/0.7145"/.987" = avg. 0.6495"/1.047= .6203MOA

14.Defender3, LaRue Tactical PredatOBR in .260 Remington, Vortex Razor 4.5-27, Hornady Factory 130gr ELD-M, Atlas Bipod, AI rear bag, Groups per OnTarget: 0.664; 0.477; 0.923; 0.539 and 0.538 = 3.141/5 = 0.628MOA

15. Rowlock: AR15, Home built Rock River 24", 5.56 NATO. Leupold Mark AR MOD 1 4-12x40mm. Federal Gold Medal .223 Remington 69 grain BTHP. Groups: 0.6175" / 0.9050" / 0.3185" / 0.6170" / 0.8873" = avg. 0.6691" = 0.639 MOA

16. CoffeedrinkerinNC Rock River AR-15, 20" 1-9 barrel, handloads, LC brass, 25.5 grs varget, 69gr Nosler CC. group 1 .425, group 2 .441, group 3 .464, group 4 .555, group 5 1.379. Total is 3.264, divided by 5 equals .6528 MOA.

17 SpeyRod, SPR, LaRue Tobr 5.56, 77OTM Berger over 22.5gr Varget and Rem 7 1/2, (.649, 1.017, 1.039, .778, 1.072)=.911-.224=.687/1.047=.656moa

18.Flg23, SPR Division at 100yds, Knights Armament LPR Mod2 5.56 with NF ATACR 4-16, 0.71+0.69+0.553+0.59+0.909=3.452/5=0.6904/1.047=0.659 MOA Average

19.wiseanhyzer: 16" mid-length, DD S2W barrel, Redfield 2-7x32, LaRue MBT, 5.56 Specwar K, 50gr .223Groups: 0.4145, 0.7965, 1.0745, 0.6345, 0.5515 = 3.4715" / 5 = 0.6943 / 1.047 = 0.6631 MOA

excatm76: 6.5 Grendel AR-15 build, Saturn cut rifle 24” barrel, Seekins SP3R handguard, Geissle DMR trigger, Athlon Argos 4.5-27x50 Scope. Hornsby Black box 123 grain. .717”/.727”/.543”/.752”/.792”=.706” average =.674 MOA



20.newBMowner: Home Built, 18” Spike’s Lothar Walther .223 Wylde, Nikon Buckmaster 4.5-14x w/Aero Ultralight Mount, Geissele S3G, PRS Stock, 77gr SMK over 22.6gr Varget Groups: 0.775", 0.386”, 0.734”, 0.812”, and 0.860” = avg. 0.713" = 0.681 MOA

21.Greenheadcaller, DPMS 24 BULL .223, Vortex Crossfire 1, reloads 50g vmax H322; Groups .844"/1.02"/.478"/.821"/.406" = Ave .7138 = .682 MOA

22.akethan LaRue OBR 16" 7.62 / IOR 4-14 MP8/ 168gr GMM .673/.979/.583/.939/.285=.6918

23. lefty-weaver-g19; home built rifle CLE/Krieger 18" mid length barrel, 12X swfa optic, Timney trigger, 77 smk, h4895, rem 7 1/2, lake city virgin; Groups: 0.404 / 0.894 / 0.640 / 0.919 / 0.767 = avg 0.725 = 0.692 MOA

24. Hollywood_Shooter: LaRue Tactical .308 - Bushnell Elite Tactical 6-24x50 FFP G2DMR - 155gr HPBT SMK. 0.798"/0.792"/0.636"/0.647"/0.824" = 0.7394" AVG = 0.7062 MOA

SuperJLarge: Rainier Match 18" 1/8 223 Wylde, Geissele HSNM, Vortex PST II 5-25, ebr 2C, IMI 77gr Razorcore. Groups: 0.526 / .756 / 0.739 / 0.856 /.836= 3.713/5 = Avg .743/1.047= .709moa

25. SpeyRod, LaRue Stealth 18"/13.2 + LaRue Lower + Burris sig select 3-12, 77gr Berger over Varget, ..380/.877/.725/.940/.627= ..710 MOA

26. lb6r - Homebuild wyld .223 - Shillen 20" 1/8 twist, RRA NM upper, lower, trigger, harris brm, Gemtec Halo, Primary Arms 4x14 hudd, 77 gn Nosler 24gn varget. Groups 1.18"/ .626"/ .632"/ .347"/ .956" =avg. .7482" = .714 moa

27.InfiniteGrim: Home Build 18" LW50 5.56 / SWFA 5-20HD / Nosler 77gr Handloads: .701/.782/.580/.768/.744 = .715 MOA





28.mi650. LaRue 6.5 Grendel factory rifle, ACS stock, Sig Sauer Tango6 2-12x40 in an LT104, Harris bipod w/LT mount, Crosstac rear bag. Group 1: .6235, 2: .964, 3: .6625, 4: .774, 5: .584 = 3.608/5= .7216 average MOA.

SuperJLarge, LaRue UU 22” 6.5Creedmoor, MBT-2S, 1x Hornady brass, H4350, Fed210M, 140 ELD-M’s, TBAC 30p-1 Suppressor, 5-25 PST II EBR-2C, .502”+.552”+.807”+.711”+1.216”= 3.78” ave /5 = .7576 /1.047 = 0.723 Moa  



29.FALARAK: Self built Krieger .223 20" LaRue Rail, LaRue MBT  PRS - Leupold VariX-III 6.5x20 in LaRue LT-104 - 77gr SMK handload 24.5gr Varget CCIBR - Groups 1.017 / 0.823 / 0.792 / 0.573 / 0.576 = avg .756" = .723 MOA

30.JessBrie. Larue Predatar barrel, geissele free float rail mil spec trigger bushnell DMR 3.5-21 in ADM mount Black Hills 77 grain TMK 401/.696/.836/.941/.911=3.785/5=.757 0.757" / 1.047 = 0.723 MOA

31.patchouli, 6.5grendel Frankenbuild 24" Groups: .602"/.720"/ .582"/ .720"/ 1.193" (avg =.7634") (.729MOA)

32.TZLVredmist: NEMO Arms Factory XO PROOF 20" 6.5cm 1/8 twist, Nightforce ATACR F1 25x, Factory Hornady 140grn ELD M, Groups: .738/.555/1.027/.836/.697 = avg. .771 = .736 MOA

33. lefty-weaver-g19. Built by me. Black hole custom barrel, vltor upper, timney trigger, SWFA fixed 10X mrad scope. Hand loaded 69 grain smk H4895 .811, .640, .361, 1.044, .834, average .738

34.SuperDutyMikeMc / YHM lower (franken-AR) / .223 / 18" Larue Stealth Barrel / Viper PSTG1 SFP 6-24x50 /SiCo Omega Suppressor / Atlas Bipod / 69GR TMK over 23.1 8208XBR @ 2704FPS / Groups: .282 / .869 / 1.409 / .485 / .856 = Avg .780" = .745 MOA

sea2summit, Larue OBR, Larue. 260 barrel, MBT, Tranquilo, Bushnell DMR2, Hornady 130 ELDM. .836”+.846”+.976”+.436”+.596= 3.69” ave /5 = .738 /1.047 = 0.748 MOA

35. Draconis, LaRue 5.56- 20" Stealth barrel on Stealth upper /LaRue PredatAR lower with MBT and Vltor A5 Vortex Viper HST 6-24X50 -Handloaded 69 grain SMK HPBT Norma brass 24.9 gr Reloder 15, 2.22 COAL Groups: .684"/.728"/1.002"/.711"/.813" = avg. 3.938" = .7516 MOA

34. ean: Larue Stealth 18" Barrel, Larue MBT trigger, Vortex Viper PST 6-24x50 - Federal GMM 77 grain. Groups: .523" / .91" / .692" / .999" / .821" = avg. .789" = .753 MOA

36. Mike_P: Larue 18" 7.62 PredaTobr with SilencerCo Saker 7.62 - Vortex Razor HD 5-20x in an LT135, FG.MM 168gr, Fed AE M1A, BH 168gr Match, Groups 0.966 / 0.843 / 0.879 / 0.637 / 0.458 = avg .756 MOA

37.dangerranger61007  AR15. Larue 18" Stealth barrel, Larue trigger, Bushnell Elite Tactical 3.5-21. Shooting 77gr GMM Groups: .673, 1.034, .709, .658, .894 = .7936"CTC / 0.758 MOA

38. MORifleman, SPR Division, magnified optics Groups .953/.719/.336/1.272/.871 = .8302" average. MOA at 104 yards = .7623

39.GaJeep94YJ: Larue stealth upper 18", RRA lower with Larue MBT with the A2 stock. Nightforce 5.5-22x NP-R1. Winchester Match HPBT 69 gr., 0.829", 0.9995", 0.627", 0.813", 0.563" / 5 = 0.7663"

MJMJR1312: ADCO built mk12 mod0 223 - WOA barrel, Form 1 Suppressor, MBT- Leupold MK4 3-10x40- 77gr SMK over 23gr 8208 XBR - Groups: 0.827"/0.889"/0.721"/0.596"/0.977" = avg. 0.802" = 0.766 MOA

40. akethan 18" LaRue OBR .556 75gr Hornady .771 .462 .948 .846.814 = .768

41.Larue_Tactical tOBR 16" 556/ 77gr GMM .617 .623 .657 .969 .979= .769

42.Sgwlower: KAC Sr25 ECC w/Mams .308 win. + Leupold Mark 6 3-18 TMR, Knights 34mm mount + Harris Bipod/Larue QD mount + Accuracy 1st rear bag., Hornady .308 168gr BTHP match, Groups .901/ .944/ .980/ .923/ .652= .880 Avg= .7708 MOA

43. MDMOORE99: Olympic Arms K8 5.56 - Primary Arms 4-14X44 Mil FFP Scope - Handloads. Groups .562/.876/.736/1.171/.724=avg .8138" = .777 MOA

44.Lennyo3034: Home build 223, Douglas SPR barrel with CLE chamber, Bushnell Elite SMRS 1-8.5X24, 69SMK over 8208. Groups: .989"/.612"/.673"/866"/.924"= avg. .813"= .777 MOA

45.CastorTroy: Home Built, 20" Shilen Match 6.5 Grendel, Vortex PST 6-24x50, Geissele Hispeed DMR, 123gr .264 Hornady SSTGroups: .325" + .536" + .876" + 1.174" + 1.162" = 4.073" /5 = .8146" /1.047 = .778 MOA



newBMowner: Home Built, Aero M5 with 20” Lilja .308 Barrel (& YHM Phantom LT), Vortex Viper PST 2.5-10x w/ADM Mount, Geissele S3G,  178gr ELD-Match over 41.9gr Varget, Groups: 0.612"/0.523"/0.708"/0.594"/1.650" = avg. 0.817”/1.047 =0.781 MOA



46. EXCATM76: Home built AR-15, 5.56mm - 18" LaRue Stealth barrel, Geissele B-G2S-E Trigger, Vortex Viper 6.5-20x44 Mildot, Bobro mount - 77 grain SMK over 4895. Groups: .929"/.945"/.532"/.815"/.936" = Average .831" = .794 MOA

47.Skg_Mre_Lght: : DPMS Classic 20, Modified- Vortex PST 4-16x EBR-1 -Geiselle trigger- Handloads. Groups: .556"/ 1.261"/ .938"/ .582"/ .683"/ avg .927"= .8038 MOA

:GAHunter95 /22” WOA, 224 Valk, rifle gas, Vltor Mur-1A upper, 17.25” JP mkiii handguard, Geissele Hi-spd NM trigger, SAS barricade , Vortex AMG 6-24 , factory 90gr FGMM, squeeze bag filled with beans/ 0.75 + 0.67 + 0.97 + 0.96 +0.86 = 4.21" / 5 = 0.842 / 1.047 = 0/8042 MOA48.

Muad: Home-built SPR - LaRue MBT-2S - 20" LW barrel - Bushnell 6-24x50mm FFP, ADI 55gr BlitzKings. Groups: 1.099"/0.687"/0.628"/0.681"/1.125"/ avg. 0.844" = 0.806 MOA

49..Eric802:18" BHW barrel, PA 4-16x44 scope, 75gr BTHP handloads (LC brass, RE-15): .912, .731, 1.158, .720, .779; avg. .860", .821 MOA.

50. MadCowRacer, Rifle: 25DTI upper, Nikon 4-16 Monarch, Ammo: .257 caliber. 90Gr Sierra Game Kings. in 6.8SPC brass. Groups: (.642+ .753+ .883+ .883+ .948)/5= .8218

51. Redbirdxx :Home built AR15, 20" Larue Stealth, SSA-E, Vortex 6-24 PST, Luth-AR stock, Harris bipod, 69 grain SMK handloads. Groups: 1.103"/.561"/.1.101"/.799"/.717" = avg. .861" = .823 MOA

52.BuickDan/AR-15 18" SPR homebrew .223/RRA 2-stage trigger/Mueller APT 4.5-14X40/Hornady 55 gr V-max handloads Groups: .744" .864" .716" .885" 1.101" Avg= .862" .8231MOA

53.amannamedjed, stock PSA rifle with 20” Larue Stealth barrel, Larue MBT, UTG 4-16x44, Harris bipod, sock beans, IMI 77gr SMK OTM razor core: 0.9100”, 0.8355”, 0.7520”, 1.0465”, 0.7920” = 4.3360 / 5 = 0.8672 in / 1.047 = 0.8283 MoA

54. JohnTlag: Knights LPR - Leupold CQBSS - Handloads: 25 grains BLC-2 with 77 grain SMK's in LC brass.. .736,.726,.581,1.030,1.070 = .829 MOA

55.Southerncross  Larue Stealth 20" barrel/Stealth upper, Larue PredatAR lower with MBT Vortex Viper 6/24x50 Groups: .601, .716, .776, .859, 1.406 AVG size .8716 x 1.047 = .8324 MOA

56..lb6r DPMS 24" Stainless steel, JP trigger, ADM Mount and UsOptics SN3, Harris Bipod, Gemtech Sandstorm. 175 SMK over 44 Varget Win caseGroups .58"/.62"/.98"/.95"/1.21" = Avg .868" = .83moa

Chrazy-Chris: DPMS MK12 5.56 Barrel/Young MFG BCG/PSA Receivers/JoeBob Matrix HG/SWFA 5-25/Hornady 75gr BTHP/IMR8208XBR/SSA Brass. 1.049"/.803"/.888"/.766"/.668" = avg .835" = .835MOA



57.jaqufrost: Home built, 5.56 - 1:14 twist Green Mountain Rifle Barrel, CMMG trigger- Weaver 2-10x36 MDR- Federal 50gr Polymer Tip. Groups: 1.342"/1.251"/.832"/.762"/.495" = avg. .936" = .836 MOA

58. Marcdjudge: LaRue OBR .308 16" - Geissele SSA-E + LaRue/Harris bipod + STR - Vortex Viper PST 4-16x in LT mount, 168gr FGMM, Groups .724 / .923 / .97 / .471 / 1.314 = 4.412 divided by 5/1.047 = .8427 average

59. tweeter, assembled 5.56mm 416R stainless 1:8 w/ Geissele SSA-E, Vortex PST 1-4x, handloaded Barnes 69gr over IMR 4320. 0.823"/ 0.919"/ 0.895"/ 0.877"/ 0.746" = 0.852" AVG.

60. H60Hdrvr, SunDevil-built lefty upper with 20" 1-8 LW match barrel, homebrew lower with Geissele SSA-E, Nikon M223 3-12x42, IMI Razor Core 77gr Match; groups: .992"/.696"/.966"/.949"/.870", avg .895"= .855 MOA

61. JoeyS, Larue stealth upper 18", RRA lower with Larue MBT with the A2 stock. Nightforce 5.5-22x NP-R1 Groups: .863"/ .849"/ .856"/ 1.053"/ .859" = avg. .896" = .856 MOA

62. MrsExCatm: Home built AR-15, 5.56mm - 18" LaRue Stealth barrel, Geissele B-G2S-E  - Vortex Viper 6.5-20x44 Mildot, Bobro mount - 77 grain SMK over 4895. Groups:1.046"/1.239"/.766"/.682"/.766" = Average .8998" = .859 MOA

63.GardensandGuns: BCM 18" upper/Stag Lower 5.56- G2S Trigger, Harris Bipod-Vortex Pst 4-16x, Hornady 55gr V-Max Varget. Groups: .871"/.896"/.954"/1.018"/.776" =Avg.903" = .8624 MOA

64.steelheadr BCM 875-.224 = .651 1.263-.224 =1.039 1.369-.224 =1.145 1.025-.224 = .801 1.105-.224 = .881 =4.517/5=.9034/1.047=.863

65.Mister_H: Home built AR15 White Oak SPR profile Wilson barrel 1/7 twist, Leupold mk4 4.5-14x, IMI 77grn “Razorcore”, Groups: .959/.776/1.029/.706/.983 = avg. .891 = .866 MOA  

66. EVR: ArmaLite M15NM 5.56 - Factory Condition {polished trigger} - Redfield 4-12 scope PA Mount - Groups: 1.016/.852/1.079/.853/.733 = avg. .9066" = .866 MOA

67.ean: HCS/Douglas 18" SPR Barrel, Geissele SSA-E trigger, Vortex Viper PST 6-24x50 - Federal GMM 77 grain. Groups: .457" / 1.294" / 1.186" / .821" / .821" = avg. .9158" = .875 MOA

68 steelheadr: Larue 20" barrel, handguard, Spike's upper, 80% lower, Luth Stock, Larue MBT Trigger, BCM lower parts, Leupold Mark 4 4.5-14-40 LR/T, Top 2 targets IMI 69grn and center and bottom 2 targets Australian Outback 69grn Groups:0.942/0.814/0.981/0.675/0.969=avg .876 MOA

69..Lennyo3034: LRB M25 in .308, Krieger barrel, Vortex Razor 5-20X50, Federal GMM 168grain. Groups: .983", .849", .706", .909", 1.167"= .922" average= .881 MOA

70.Face454 26" 6.5 Grendel Bartlien Barreled Precision Firearms Upper Nightforce 8-32x56, 123gr Hornady AMAX: 1.018, .692, 1.248, 1.065, .602 AVG: .925", .883 MOA

71.AR-180: Stag Lower with a Varmint parts kit, Bushnell Scope, 0.618" / 0.994" / 0.560" / 1.143" / 1.116" = 4.431" / 5 = 0.8862"

72. arzombie: Frankengun .223 - 13.7" Rainier Arms Ultramatch- Vortex 2.5-10x32- 69gr SMK, IMR 3031 - Groups: 1.407"/1.284"/.830"/.639"/.939" = avg. 1.0198" = 0.893 MOA

73. trobertson5-0:Knight's Armament SR15 5.56- Kreiger barrel- Leupold MK 1.5-5 SPR- MK262 76 gr. Groups: .889"/ 1.449"/ 1.04"/ .419"/ .924"/ avg .944 = .901 MOA

74.sgwlower 16" Larue Predatobr with NF 2.5-10X24 77 gr FGMM Bipod, rear bag .855 moa,.841 moa,.917 moa,1.011 moa, .895 moa AVG MOA: .903 moa

75.Draconis: Larue stealth upper 18", 1/8 twist, RRA lower Nightforce 5.5-22x NP-R1. Hornady Match HPBT 75 gr.,0.807", 1.069", 1.097", 0.727", 1.037" = 4.737" / 5 = 0.9474" = .905 MOA

76.Dangerranger61007: built AR15, Rainier Ultramatch 18" SPR barrel, Larue MBT Bushnell DMR 3.5-21x in a Larue LT158 mount. 77gr SMK (23.2gr XBR 8208) Groups: 0.749, 1.059, 1.122, 0.96, 0.854 = avg 0.9488 AVG 0.906 MOA"

77. doc540: Anderson 5.56/.223, 16", stock 6lb 13oz trigger, 1/8 twist, Mueller 8.5x25x50, 50gr Hornady Vmax, handloads, GROUPS: .716 / 1.08 / .726 / 1.52 / .686 = .948 avg or .909 MOA

78. Gahunter95. Larue Stealth upper 18", 223, RRA lower with Larue MBT with A2 stock, Atlas bipod. Nightforce 5.5-22x NP-R1. FGMM 77gr. Groups 1.405, 0.642, 0.679, 1.225, 0.829. = 4.780 / 5 = 0.956. 0.913 MOA

79.DeltaFINN: Rainier Arms medcon select 18", Geissele SSA-E, Nightforce nxs 2.5-10x32, Federal GMM 69gr SMK, bipod and rear bag Groups: 1.126" .925" .990" .593" 1.156" = avg .958" divide by 1.047 = .914 MOA

80.RLR350, AR in 5.56 builtWilson Combat 18", 1/ 8, rifle gas, SPR barrel, RRA match trigger, billet upper /lower, Leupold 1-9x40 scope..loads: Hornady 68g BTHP/24g Varget. Groups: 1.177"/.952"/.625"/.1.107"/.718" Average: .9158" MOA

81.Ronnl001/Les Baer thunder ranch ar15/.596+.625+.965+1.023+1.168+1.392"/6=.9615" = .918 MOA AVERAGE.

82HighpowerRifleBrony: Plucky Carbine - UTG freefloat rail, DPMS 2-stage trigger - Nikon 3x32 - 25gr Varget/moly'd 68gr BTHP. Groups: 0.96"/0.78"/1.56"/0.59"/0.90" = avg. 0.96" = 0.92 MOA75.

83.jaqufrost: home built 5.56 - DPMS MK12 barrel, Geissele SD-C - Vortex Viper HS-T 5-15x - 77gr SMK 23.4gr Varget/23.5gr Varget. Groups: .636"/.888"/1.407"/1.555"/1.158" = avg. 1.1288" =.921 MOA

84.Meme,  LaRue 20" Stealth upper  Vortex Viper HST 6-24X50  LT845-QD Handloaded 69 grain SMK Groups.867 + 1.468 + .698 + .626 + 1.173 = 4.832 / 5 = .9664.9664 / 1.047 = .923

85GAHunter95. RRA Predator upper 20", Vortex Viper 6-24x50, LaRue SPR-1.5 mount, Atlas bipod, MBT trigger. Hornady Black 75gr BTHP. 223. 1.368 + 1.079 + 0.907 + 0.675 + 0.815 = 4.844 / 5 = 0.968" average = 0.9253 MOA
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86.themagikbullet. .223 SPR upper built by Ayan at boltcarrier.com. Geissele SD-E trigger. SWFA 5-20x50. Black Hills 77gr. 1.397, .707, .777, .812, .941. Average .926"
87. VBC.223 AR-15. 22" SS bull bbl. Geissele G2S trigger. Zeiss Victory FL 6-24x56mm. 53 gr. SMK (#1400) over 27.2 gr. of Varget 1.146, 0.596, 0.926, 1.256, 0.936. Avg = 0.972" or 0.928 MOA
88.itgoesboom, Larue Stealth 5.56, SSA-E Trigger, Leupold VX-R 3-9X on 9 power, 77gr Noslers over H322 handloads. Groups: 1.021, 1.004, 1.003, 1.094, 0.754 = 4.876/5 = 0.975/1.047 = .931 MOA
89. L_JE: Noveske w/.223 18" WOA barrel - Vortex PST 2.5-10x - Black Hills 77SMK .223. Groups: 0.651"/0.651"/1.026"/1.026"/1.526" = avg 0.976" = 0.932 MOA
90.Steelhead43 .741 1.235 1.096 1.076 .530 .678 =.9356 BMC receiver, Rainier UM SPR barrel, 69SMK's with W748 and 77SMK's with CFE22382.
91.Jaqufrost- Home build .223 Wylde - Green Mountain 18" 1:5 twist barrel, 80% lower, AIM Low Mass BCG, Blue trigger  built by RISE Armament)- Vortex Viper 6-24, 80gr Sierra Matchking, 21.5gr Varget. Groups: .623"/1.043"/1.214"/1.356"/1.553" = avg. 1.158" =.945MOA
92. wiseanhyzer: Larue stealth upper 18", RRA lower with Larue MBT  RRA lower RRA 2 stage varmit trigger. Nightforce 5.5-22x NP-R1. ADI 69gr ammo.1.012", 1.088", 0.922", 1.2378", 0.75" = 5.009" / 5 = 1.0018" x 1.047 = 0.9568 MOA
93. MrZeat: RRA Varmint EOP 16" .223 Rem - Aero Lower Geissele SSA-E - Leupold Mark AR MOD 1 6-18x40mm - Handloads. Groups: .741/.935/1.357/1.042/.984 = avg 1.048 = .966 MOA

NotUrLawyer: PSA 18" SS 1/7 .233 Wylde upper w/bipod & 80% lower w/MBT - Leupold vx6hd 3-18x50 - Hornady Black .223 75gr. BTHP. Groups: 0.929 / 1.194 / 0.853 / 0.965 / 1.118" = avg. 1.0118" = 0.966 MOA

94. TheKnack: Home built Lothar Walther 18" .223-Harris Bipod-Primary Arms 4-14x FFP-ADI 69 grain SMK. .846"/ 1.08"/ 1.12"/ .670"/ 1.35"=avg. 1.01"=.968" MOA
95.goloud - 17.3" MicroMOA bbl, G-SDE Trigger, 69gr Federal Gold Medal Match - 0.67 + 0.946 + 0.936 + 0.986 + 1.036 = 4.574/5 = .915/0.942 = 0.971 MOA
96.castlebravo84: LaRue 18" Stealth barrel build, Viper PST 6-24x50mm, 77gr SMK over 23.4g XBR - Groups=1.336"/1.413"/0.745"/0.898"/0.723" Average = 1.023" MOA = 0.977
97. UtahShotgunner: DPMS Heavy barreled custom 5.56 - Tasco 8-32X- Handloads. Groups: .781"/ 1.186"/ .955"/ 1.129"/ 1.099"/ avg. 1.03" = .984 MOA
98.RolandDeschain: Larue stealth upper 18", RRA lower with Larue MBT with the A2 stock. Nightforce 5.5-22x NP-R1. Hornady Match HPBT 75 gr 1.109" 0.6855" 1.295" 1.3355" 0.507" /5 = 0.9864 MOA
99. Old_Painless: DPMS AR-15 5.56, Leupold 6.5 X 20, Handloads. .97"/ 1.24"/1.31"/1.09"/.56"= Avg. 1.034" = .988 MOA
100. Mister_H: Home built AR15 White Oak SPR profile Wilson barrel 1/7 twist, Leupold mk4 4.5-14x, IMI 77grn “Razorcore”, Groups: .1.003/1.094/.878/1.260/.987 = avg. 1.044 = .998 MOA
101.big_tex78, LaRue stealth upper 18", RRA lower with Larue MBT, Ace skeleton, LaRue scope mount. Nightforce 5.5-22x NP-R1  0.7955"/ 0.9030"/ 1.5030"/1.1195 "/ 0.8840" = avg.=1.041" = 0.9943 MOA
102.Flg23 Sr25 APC with KAC bipod and S&B 5-20 shooting M118LR 0.713/1.513/0.909/0.738/1.333=5.206/5=1.041/1.047=0.994MOA
103. Northfork, Factory new RRA 204 with the varmit trigger option on the 2 stage trigger. Win 34gr JHP. BSA 6-24x30mm. Groups. 0.560, 0.596, 0.442, 0.450, 0.563 = 2.611/5 = 0.522 x 2 = 1.044 = 0.997 MOA
104.mathecb. Custom built SPR (LMT lower, Douglas 18" barrel and bolt, Noveske NSR, DD Upper), Nightforce 2.5-10x32 in JP mount. Ammo: Handloads (load development) 1.476 + .908 + 1.047 + 1.158 + 1.037 = 1.075"
105.amannamedjed, PSA .223 Wylde SS 18” freefloat, Larue MBT, UTG 4-16x44, sock beans, IMI 77gr SMK OTM razor core: 0.944”, 1.135”, 0.935”, 1.402”, 1.079” = 5.495” / 5 = 1.099” avg. = 1.05 MoA
106. ean: HCS/Douglas 18" SPR Barrel, Geissele SSA-E trigger, Vortex Viper PST 6-24x50 - Federal GMM 69 grain. Groups: .878" / 1.572" / 1.279" / .857" / 1.063" = avg. 1.1298" = 1.08 MOA
107.wiseanhyzer: Home built with 20" LaRue Stealth barrel. Vortex Viper 6.5-20x50 in LT104. FGMM77gr. Groups: 0.793", 1.426", 0.975", 0.437", 1.674" = 1.061" = 1.013 MOA
108. DeltaFINN: Rainier Arms Ultramatch 18", Geissele SSA-E, SWFA SS10x42, Blackhills 77gr TMK, bipod and rear bag Groups: .904" 1.346" 1.109" .879" 1.494" = avg 1.147" divide by 1.047 = 1.094 MOA
109 Logicgear: AR-15 HomeBuilt .223 Rem 16", Vortex Viper HS 4-16x44, 69gr SMK handloads 1.426"/1.008"/1.199"/.894"/1.313" AVG=1.168" MOA=1.116"
110.jself24: AA 24" 6.5 Grendel, Vortex Viper PST 6 X 24, Handloads. 1.043/ 1.186/.737"/1.360"/1.525"/avg. 1.170" = 1.117 MOA
112.Redbirdxx: Homebrew AR15, 20" Larue Stealth barrel + Geissele SSA-E + Harris bipod  handloads- 69 grain SMK, Varget, IMI brass, Groups 1.008 / .978 / 1.367 / 1.015 / 1.243 = avg 1.122 MOA
113. M4A1Carbine: Home build with 18" Faxon barrel / Nikon M-223 3-12x42SF / PPU 69gr .223. Groups: 0.594"/1.0"/.937"/1.625"/1.812" = avg 1.1936" = 1.14
114.Draconis: Colt LE6920, 16" chrome lined 1/7 twist barrel Leapers 4-16X44 Compact scope, stock trigger, handloaded .223 ammo with Nosler CC HPBT 69 gr. over 23.6 gr. Reloader 15 in Norma brass, 0.909", 1.723", 0.928", 1.523", 1.715"=6.809"/5=1.3618" = 1.300 MOA
115. mnandy, home built ar15 w/ White Oak barrel, .223, Weaver tactical 3-10 scope, 68 grain hand loads, 1.777/.977/1.577/1.527/.977= 1.367 average = 1.306 moa
116.Holden_McRoyne: Homebuilt .223 AR - Noveske 18.5" SPR barrel, Geissele S3G, 762-SDN-6 - SWFA 1-6 in Bobro mount - Fed GMM 77gr. Groups: 1.470" / 1.293" / 1.797" / 1.379" / 0.918" = avg 1.371" = 1.310 MOA
117. Pacs : Sig 516 : Nikon 4X16 : Hornady 68g BTHP Match : 23g Bench mark : 2.355" OAL 2.078/1.323/1.305/1.160/.945/ = 6.811/5= 1.3622" + 1.3010 MOA
118. MSC182: BCM/PSA 5.56 16" middy build-HTG ARIS suppressor-Leupold VX-R Patrol scope-Hornady Steel Match 55 gr. HP. Groups: 1.143/2.349/1.330/1.550/.659 = Avg 1.406 = 1.34 MOA
119.TX_Critter: Palmetto State 16" Midlength - YHM phantom stainless can - 3-9x40 Nikon Scope, 55gr Hornady SP Handloads, Groups 0.914" / 1.831" / 1.525" / 1.584" / 1.051" = avg 1.381" = 1.381 MOA
120 Muad: Home built ADCO 18" SPR barrel - Bushnell 6-24x50mm - 77gr SMK BH 5.56mm loads - 100 yards. Groups: 1.689"/1.046"/0.947"/2.113"/1.262"/avg. 1.4114" = 1.35 MOA
121. Jaqufrost- Home build .223 Wylde - Green Mountain 18" 1:6 twist barrel, RRA 2 stage Varmint trigger - Vortex Viper 6-24, 80gr SMK 22.5gr Varget 2.55 OAL, Groups: .670"/.836"/1.216"/1.794"/1.941" = avg. 1.2914" =1.153 MOA
122.Hossolo: BCM 16" LW BFH in 5.56mm - KMR13, Geissele SSA-E - TA33-8 - Australian Outback .223 69gr SMK BTHP. Groups: 1.07"/1.12"/1.81"/1.92"/2.19" = avg. 1.622" = 1.54MOA
123. jwatts, Spike's Midlength 16" AR .5.56- Geiselle 2 stage trigger- Burris Fullfield 2 3-9x40- Handloaded 77gr Nosler Custom Comp HPBT. Groups: 2.823/1.402/2.049/1.14/1.09 = Average of 1.7008"= 1.624MOA
124. excatm76, AR-15 Armalite Lower/Stag 3G Upper 5.56mm, Leupold VX-R Patrol 1.25-4x Bobro mount, Geco 55 grain .223, Groups: 1.161"/1.561"/1.725"/2.645"/1.479" Average= 1.637 MOA
125 EVR: ArmaLite AR10A4 Factory Condition/Non-freefloat barrel .308 - Redfield 3-9 - Handload. 1.428/1.851/2.038/1.568/2.032 = avg. 1.7834" = 1.7033 MOA
126 MRW: BCM 5.56 20" Gov't upper, SWFA Super Sniper 10x scope, Hornady 55 gr Steel Match. Groups:1.720/1.365/1.938/2.315/2.036 Ave: 1.8748" MOA: 1.72
127. maxxmojo: Norinco NDM-86 7.62 NATO - 8x42D POSP scope - Georgia Arms 168gr. HPBT Canned Heat - Groups: 2.505"/2.2"/1.44"/2.307"/1.7395"/ avg 2.0383" = 1.9468 MOA
128. LuckyDucky: Palmetto State Armory/Anderson Mfg. - Hornady 6.8mm SPC 110 gr V-MAX - Redfield Revolution 4-12x - Groups: 2.982"/2.253"/1.697"/2.447"/2.548" = avg. 2.385" = 2.278 moa
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Bolt Division with magnified optics (any precision gun) at 100 yards ...........

1.Lennyo3034: Ruger Precision Rifle with Patriot Valley barrel. Gen2 Razor. 139 Scenars over H4350. Groups: .178"/.298"/.204"/.559"/.569"= .362" average= .345 MOA



Curt1521: DesertTech SRS-A1 6.5 CM - Silencerco Omega- Scope- Tangent Theta 5-25x56 Ammo - Berger 140 HVLD - H4350. Groups: 0.359/0.334/0.345/0.477/0.306 = avg. 1.821" /5 = .364 / 1.047 = .3477 MOA2. trobertson5-0: Raven Rifles M40A5 .308- Leupold 6.5-20 -Surefire suppressor- Handloads. Groups: .381"/ 132"/ .451"/ .582"/ .435"/ avg .3962" = .378 MOA

3.cms81586; Sako TRG-22 in .308 Win; Factory rifle with no modifications; US Optics SN-3 3.7x17x44 mil/mil with GAP reticle; Handloads using TAA 7.62 brass, 178gr BTHP, 43.0gr Varget, Fed 210M primers; Groups: 0.397"/0.269"/0.472"/0.597"/0.462" = avg. 0.439" = 0.419 MOA



SuperJLarge, R700 223, Timney CE, Bartlein 1:8 twist, 75 eld-m, Varget, Sig Brass, SAS Barricade suppressor, 6-24x50 Vortex AMG, .456”+.318”+.347”+.413”+.708= 2.242” ave /5 = .4484 /1.047 = 0.4282 MOA



4. chocolateisyummy2: Custom Remington 700 6.5 Creedmoor - Scope: Kahles K624i SKMR3 - Ammo: Handloads 140 gr ELD-M - Groups: .280"/.361"/.426"/.462"/.716" = avg. .449" = .429 MOA

5.lefty-weaver-g19: 260 Remington semi-custom-26" McGowen barrel-timney calvin elite trigger-139 grain lapua scenar hand loads-Groups: 0.437 / 0.373 / 0.469 / 0.583 / 0.458 = avg. 0.464 = 0.443 MOA

6. OH58DViper: Stiller Spectre 6creed 22" Bartlein, Bushnell 4.5-30 in Badger Rings, 42.2 H4350, 105 Hybrids, groups .651" / .522" / .495" / .364" / .313" = .469" = .447 MOA

7. Tunabomber: Remington 700 5R Milspec .308 - Manners T4A with mini-chassis, AAC Cyclone, 18" barrel - Nightforce 12-42x56 benchrest scope - Handloads 0.293"/0.472 /0.435"/0.371"/0.773" = Average 0.469" = .448 MOA

8. Pacs : Remingtom 700 : .308 : Nikon 4X16 : Remington brass : Sierra 175g HPBT Matchking : 39.6g Benchmark : OAL 2.830.Mister_H:R700 Bartlien 6.5cm 1/8 twist, Leupold mk6 3-18x, Hornady 140grn ELD, Groups: .667/.526/.340/.424/.430 = avg. .477 = .4556 MOASuperJLarge: R700, 223,75 eld-M, MPA chassis, SAS Barricade suppressor, Vortex AMG scope: .281",.551",.480",.547",.606""= .493" average=.47 MOA.10.Nick Forney: GAP hospitaller .308 bushnell 4.5-30 43.3 varget 175 smk win brass .410, .391, .543, .562, .530 avg .487= .465MOA9.OH58DViper: Surgeon 591 .308 20" border - Bushnell 4.5-30 in Badger Rings, 44.3gr varget, 175 TMK's, .085 off, groups .758" / .592" / .446" / .403" / .260" = .491" = 469 MOA

11. Goldeyeslayer: Winchester 70 Heavy Varmint .308 - SWFA SS 10x42 -Handloads. Groups: .525"/.558"/.558"/.470"/.377"/ avg .4976"=.475MOALennyo3034: Christensen MPR 6.5CM, Huber trigger, Bushnell LRHS Groups: .513",.829", .351", .539", .374"= .521" average = .498 MOA.

12. Kahntrol Solutions: Remington SPS-V , .308win, Bushnell Elite Tactical 10x, Kahntrol Brake, Handloads. (200yds) Groups: 1.757"/1.026"/.626"/1.103"/.754"=5.269"=1.0538"=.503MOA

13. taco2000, SSG3000 - Precision Armament muzzle break - Ammo168gr SMK+ Varget 44.5gr. Groups: 0.41"/0.54"/0.84"/0.42"/0,43" = avg. 53" = .51

14.SuperJLarge: LRI 260. NF ATACR 5-25x56, R700, bartlein M24 contour,h4350, Fed210M primers, SAS Ti Reaper suppressorGroups: 0.664", 0.539", 0.538", 0.510", 0.476" = 0.545" /1.047= 0.520 MOA

15Robpiat: Tikka CTR 6.5 Creedmoor- Sightron S-TAC 4-20x - Handloads 140 ELD . Groups: .291 .381 .812 .581 .688 = avg. .5506" = .5258 MOA

16.Spartacus2002: SM Custom Rifles LLC in .308, 26” Shilen barrel, Manners T4 stock with aluminum bedding chassis – Vortex 2-10x PST scope – Black Hills 175gr HPBT Match. Groups: .380”/.516”/.523”/.653”/.737” = avg .567” = .537 MOA

17. 7: WAR Custom 308 Rifle - Brux 22" Barrel- USOptics ER25 scope - Sierra 168gr SMK. Groups: .309" / .673" / .562" / .845" / .469"/avg .5716" = .546 MOAAKH223: Savage Tactic 10FP, 223, 53gr Nosler Varmageddons, Bell & Carlson Stock, Nightforce BR scope: .90", .61", .42", .41", .55""= .578" average=.552 MOA.18.  MikeDeltaFoxtrot: Remington 700 Varmint - .308 Win.- Leupold Mark 4 LR/T 4.5-14x40 Mil Dot groups: 0.399”/ 0.767”/ 0.834”/ 0.494”/ 0.814” = avg. 0.662” = 0.553 MOA

19.  Neopo8 Trued Remington 700 2oz Jewel trigger 6mm BR lapua. .272 neck Shilen 26 in barrel 8 twist.Groups : 1=.507/ 2=.806/ 3=.300/ 4=.610/ 5=.560. AVG=.556

20.Assaultdog0351. Savage 12LRP true reciever, glass bed, barrel nut, griffin brake. Vortex Razor Gen 2, handloads. Sand in sock101yd..3775", .7960", .7915", .7055", .3360" = Average .6013" / .574 MOA

21. Stantonizm: Winchester M70 Heavy Varmint- Schneider barrel- Nightforce 3.5-15X- TBAC 30BA- Handloads. Groups: .688"/.622'/ .368"/ .540"/ .79"/ avg .6016" = .575 MOA

22.Keyst0ne: 2012 Accuracy International AX 6.5 Creedmoor - Vortex Razor Gen II 4.5-27 - Hornady 147gr ELD-M. Groups: 0.834"/0.832"/0.411"/0.547"/0.544" = avg. 0.634" = 0.581 MOA

mangle: Desert Tech SRS A2 - stock, Thunderbeast Brake - Kahles K525 - Hornady 6.5 Creedmoor 147 ELD-M. Groups: 1.086/.780/.955/.759/.834, -.2644 = avg .6184" = .5906 MOA


23.castlebravo84 Savage Stealth 6.5 CM - 147g ELD-M Lapua brass CCI 450 47.1g to 47.9g RL26 - Groups: 0.534" 0.652" 0.486" 0.735" 0.673" Avg MOA = 0.58818M4A1Carbine: Remington 700 SPS Tactical .308 - Nikon Monarch 2.5-10x42 - 155gr Hornady Steel Match. Group: .6295" = .6011MOA

24.SuperJLarge: Large Customs 260. Vortex Razor Gen 2- 4.5-27x56, Deviant tactical, bartlein gap#6 contour, Manners T4A elite, sierra 142smk handloads, h4350, lapua brass, Fed210 primers. Groups: 0.423", 0.499", 0.524", 0.850", 0.953" = 0.649" /1.047= 0.620 MOA

25.sommere54 - Savage Model 10 FP-SR - Primary Arms 4-14x FFP - 69 SMK, CCI 400, 23.0 gr. 8208 XBR - Groups: 0.453, 0.549, 0.989, 0.403, 0.857 - Avg Group = 0.6502" - Avg MOA = 0.621

26.Flg23: Surgeon CSR .308, Atlas Bipod, Triad bag, NF ATACR 4-16 in LT111, 175gr FGMM, Groups 0.482" / 0.537" / 0.536" / 0.80" / 0.872" = avg .622 MOA

27.reshp1: Savage 11 Hog Hunter .223 - Primary Arms 4-14x44 FFP - Hand loads: Groups - 0.760"/0.545"/0.712"/0.567"/0.674" = 0.622 MOA

28.HKocher: HS Precision Pro 2000 HTR, .308 168gr FGMM, Leupold Mk 4 LR/T 3.5-10x40mm M1.Groups: .755"/.890"/.822"/.480"/.318" = Average .653" = .624 MOASuperJLarge, Large Customs 6 Creedmoor, Impact 737, Bartlein 1:7.5 twist, TriggerTech Diamond, 0x fired Lapua brass, H4350, Berger 105 hybrid, SAS Reaper Suppressor, 7-35 NF ATACR Mil-C, .886”+.552”+.438”+.679”+.765= 3.29” ave /5 = .658 /1.047 = 0.628 MOA29.Redarts : Savage FCPK10 308 Win - XLR element stock, timney trigger, harris bipod - Vortex PST 6-24x50 - 168 SMK Handloads - 0.945"/ 0.854"/0.804"/ 0.675"/0.555" = 0.767" = 0.636 MOA

30. Old_Painless: Savage 12BVSS .223 - Leupold VX-3 6.5-20 - Handloads. Groups: .56"/ .67"/ .85"/ .65"/ .61" = avg .667" = .637 MOA

31.Keyst0ne: 2017 Accuracy International AX 6.5 Creedmoor - Thunderbeast Ultra 7 6.5 - Kahles 624i (SKMR3) - Hornady 147gr ELD-M. Groups: 1.033"/0.867"/0.421"/0.696"/0.478" = avg. 0.699" = 0.640 MOA

32. popnfresh Remington 700 sps tac.308Leupold MK4 mil/milM5 3.5-10x40 TMR Handloads .576/.658/.830/ .622/ .528 = .643moa

33. Curt1521: Mausingfield 22-250 home build - Silencerco Omega- Scope- Tangent Theta 5-25x56 Ammo - Hornady 75gr Amax. Groups: 0.568/0.806/0.974/0.372/0.55 = avg. 3.27" /5 = .654 MOA

34. Old_Painless: Accuracy International .308- (scope unknown)- Handloads. Groups: .420"/ .688"/ 1.02"/ .660"/ .650"/ avg .688" = .657 MOA

35.03PSD: HD Rifles M700 Custom - AI Chassis, Rock 11 Twist Barrel, Jewell Trigger- Vortex Viper PST 6-24x FFP - Handloads 168g SMK 43.0gr IMR 4064 FC 2x Brass CCI 200 Primers, 2.8945" COAL. Groups: .638 / .763 / .725 /.744 / .571 = avg. .6883 = 657 MOA

36.Kuraki, R700 6.5x55 home built - NXS 3.5-15x56 - 120 gn Sierra BTHP 47 gn RL22. Groups: 0.668/0.602/0.615/1.041/0.587 = avg 0.702 = 0.671 MOA

37. Kuraki: Sako 25-06 - heavy barrel, glass bedded - Zeiss Conquest 4-14 - Handload 100 grain Sierra 44 grain Varget - Groups: 0.865/ 0.680/ 0.620/ 0.432/ 0.93/ Avg. .7054 = .674 MOA

38wiseanhyzer: Tikka CTR 308. Trijicon RS22 2.5-10x56.  FGMM 168gr. Groups: 0.405", 0.817", 0.783", 0.647", 0.917" = 0.713" = 0.681 MOA

39. HighpowerRifleBrony, VZ24 Mauser in .308 - 1919BMG barrel, Timney trigger, cheap scope on 24x, 168gr BTHP handloads. Groups: 0.482, 0.944, 0.712, 0.667, 0.78 = 3.585/5 = 0.717/1.047 = 0.685 MOA

40. Defender3, Bolt Division, Magnified Optic, 100 yards, Ruger Precision Rifle in .308, Vortex Razor HD 5-20x50 MOA, 168gr GMM Groups: (TL = 0.620MOA; TR= 0.472MOA; BL = 0.672MOA; BR = 0.782MOA and C = 0.927MOA = 0.694MOA

41.SuperJLarge: Long Rifles Inc 260. NF ATACR 5-25x56, R700, bartlein M24 contour, Manners T4A, sierra 142smk handloads, h4350, 7x fired lapua brass, Fed210 primers. Groups: 0.562", 0.572", 0.746", 0.779", 0.991" = 0.730" /1.047= 0.697 MOA

42. indianapwns: Remington 40-X .22-250 -15x Unertl Ultra Varmint - Hornady 50gr V-Max. Groups: 0.779"/0.425"/0.658"/0.650"/1.159" = avg. 0.7342" = .7011 MOA

43. Defender3, Mausingfield in .308, 20" KP Barrel, Huber Trigger, Vortex Razor 5-20x50, various commercial loads, Groups: 0.800/0.687/0.560/1.03/0.591 = 3671/5 = 0.734/1.047 = 0.701MOA

44.Face454 Sako Trg 42 .338 LM with 250 SMK reloads. Nightforce 5-25x. Groups: .4855",.657", .783", .908", .860"; Average= .7055 MOA

45.newBMowner: Savage Stealth, 22” 6.5CM, Vortex Viper PST 4-16x SFP, Harris Bipod, 140gr Hornady BTHP Handloads, Groups: 1.074"/0.791"/0.562"/0.672"/0.636" = avg. 0.747" = 0.713MOA

46. TeeRex: Ruger Precision Rifle .243 Win - Bugholes Bugbrake, Tab Gear Rear Bag, Magnetospeed V3, Razor Gen II 3-18 - Hornady 105 BTHP with varying charges of H4350 .848 / .696 / .329 / 1.200 / .668 = .7482" avg. = 0.7144 moa

47. jKahntrol_Solutions: Savage- Walking varminter .223" - Bushnell elite tactical 10x fixed - Bipod- Kahntrol Solutions brake- Handloads. Groups: 575"/.721"/.949"/.904"/.706"=3.855=avg.750"=.717 MOA

48. Sgtmack122: Savage 112 in .223. Tasco 4.5-10x scope, 62g Nosler bullets over 26.5g Varget. .720,.619,.677,.614,1.126 = 3.756/5 = .7512/1.047 = .717MOA.newBMowner: Savage Stealth, 22” 6.5CM, Vortex Viper PST 4-16x SFP, Harris Bipod, 140gr Hornady BTHP Handloads, Groups: 0.562"/1.021"/0.770"/0.732"/.671" = avg. 0.751" = 0.717 MOA
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49.D60, Savage FCV 22-250-- box stock. Weaver Tactical 4-20X ffp, Hand loads Winchester brass, cci-200 primers, RL-15 powder, 50 grain A-Max.

Groups: .515", .892", .748", .790", .832". Average .755" = .721 MOA

50. CLICKBANGBANG Ruger RPR 6.5 Creedmoor. Sightron SII 4x16x42 MD. Copper Creek 130g Berger Hunter..592/.649/1.169/.847/.374= .726 average.

51. MB121: Remington 700 5r .308 win- Manners TF1A w/ BDM- Leupold Mk4 10x M1- Reloads: 175 SMK, 41.5 gr IMR 4064, 210M primer, 2.800 COAL. Groups: 0.738"/0.763"/0.694"/0.748"/0.919"= Average 0.772"= .737 MOA



Badass03 Ruger American Predator 6.5 Creedmoor Athlon Argos 6x24 Harris Bipod Boyds Stock Hornady Precision Hunter 143grn ELD-X .887, .599, 1.014, .635, .761=3.896/5=.779" average=.744moa



52. kingston_fisher: Savage Model 10 FCP 308 Win - Vortex Viper 6.5-20x44 PA Dead Hold BDC, Harris Bipod, Blackhawk Cheek Rest, Handload SMK 168gn, 44gn Varget, Fed GM 210M, Groups 0.507 / 0.606 / 0.7775 / 1.101 / 0.9265 = AVG 0.7836" or 0.7484MOA

53.chocolateisyummy2: Remington 700 .308 Winchester Bell and Carlson Stock Nikon Monarch X 4X16-50 Handloads 1.255/.909/.410/.823/.533 = avg.786 =.7506 MOARedbirdxx : 6.5 Creedmoor 24" Howa 1500 barreled action, KRG Bravo chassis, Vortex 5-25 Gen 2 PST, Harris bipod, 140 grain ELD-M handloads (H4350, CCI BR-2). Groups: 1.028", .617", .661", .639", .995" = .788" average = .752 MOA54.sigman68/Tikka T3 Sporter 223/Nightforce 12-42x56/ Handloads / Groups .638/.794/1.06/.640/.855 = .762 MOA @ 100 yards

55. EJThor: Savage Model 10 FP-SR 308 Winchester, Precision Armament M41 muzzle brake, Harris bi-pod, SWFA SS 10x42 in Burris rings. Midway USA squeeze bag. Federal Gold Medal Match 168gr SMK. Groups: 0.762" / 1.058" / 1.162" / 0.723" / 0.332" = 0.771MOA

56..Nick Forney: APO .308 bushnell dmr 3.5-21 G2, Norma Match 168 factory Groups .263, .826, 1.07, 1.003, .884 4.046/5 .809 .773 MOA

57. Pro_Patria_431. .308 Remington 700 in HS Precision stock. Leupold MKIV M3 10X. FGMM 168 SMK..997/ .319/ .724/ .848/ .995=3.883/5= .7766 MOA

InternationalM/308 Stock Sako A7 Range Rifle, Harris bipod, Leupold Vx3I 3.5-10 with m2 turrets/168 SMK, 77 LC Match Brass, 42 grains IMR 4895, CCI BR primers/Inches 0.837+0.591+1.037+0.984+0.631=4.08/5=0.816/ MOA =0.7862



58.FALARAK: Remington 700 5R Milspec .308 - Leupold 6.5x20 - 175SMK Handloads. Groups: .498"/1.130"/1.131"/.676"/.711" = avg .8292" = .792 MOA

59 Hawkeye29: Remington 700 ADL .308 - lightened factory trigger, Bushnell 3200 10x scope, Handloads. Groups: 1.049"/.544"/.828"/1.059"/1.054"/ avg .906" = .792 MOA

60. newBMowner: Tikka T3 CTR, 20” .308 Win, Primary Arms 4-14x ACSS, Harris Bipod, 175gr Black Hills, Groups: 0.784"/0.632"/0.815"/0.989"/0.937" = avg. 0.831" =0.794 MOA

61. CIB,Winchester M70 Heavy Varmint, HS Precision stock, PTG Stealth bottom metal, Vortex Razor HD 5-20X50. 178 gr. Hdy Amax, 44.6 grs. RE-15, FC Brass

Group measurments: .850, .760, .590, 1.115, .690= 4.005= .801 MOA Avg.

62.Draconis LaRue 5.56, 20" Stealth shooting handloads Groups: .741 + 1.244 + .622 + .834 + .773 = 4.214 / 5 = .8428 average = .804 MOA55.

63. jwatts: Savage Precision Carbine .308 - 26" McGowen Precision 1/10 twist barrel- Burris 6.5-20x50mm Fullfield II- Handloaded 175gr Nosler Custom Comp with 43gr 4064. Groups: .772moa/1.049moa/1.037moa/.554moa/.629moa =avg .808moa

64. bga71: FN SPR A1 .308 - Vortex PST 6-24x50 - GA Arms 168gr Target Load - Groups .922/.892/.642/.992/.802 = .850 AVG = .811 MOA

65. Herb3 Savage 10 FP-SR .223 SWFA SS 10x42 Scope and Rings. Seekins 20 MOA Base. Harris 6-9 Bipod and Wiebad Rear Loop Bag. Handloaded SMK 52 gr BTHP RL-15 Powder and Remington 7 1/2 Primers. Groups: 1.390/1.166 .989/.765 .978/.754 1.174/.950 .667/.443 = Avg. .816

66. RocketmanOU - Home build .223 Savage 10 - Criterion 26" 1:9 twist barrel - Nikon Buckmaster 6-18x40, 68gr Hornady BTHP 23.5gr Varget 2.275" OAL, Groups: 0.888/0.733/0.763/0.876/0.819 = average 0.816 MOA

67. OhioLongRange: Remington 700 .260 -CBI rem-age barrel - Mcree stock - Vortex Razor scope - 140 gr. A-max Handloads. Groups: --------------------------------- .822 MOA

68. sommere54: Savage Model 10 FP-SR .223 Rem with PA 4-14x FFP scope. Reloads: 69 SMK over 23.1 gr. 8208XBR in Hornady cases with CCI 400 primers. Groups: 0.821", 0.756", 0.910", 0.978", 0.849" - Avg: 0.863" - MOA: 0.824

69. Nagewaza624: Savage Model 12 LRP 6.5 Creedmore - Sightron SIII 8x32x56 - Handloads. Groups: 1.328"/ .657"/ .484"/ 1.074"/.830"/ avg .8746" =.835 MOAFivePoint56. 308 Savage 110FP, Choate USS stock, SWFA SS 16X scope. Hornady 168gr Match, Winchester cases. 0.642+0.809+1.010+1.001+0.923=4.385 /5=0.877 for 0.837 moa70.ccc75: Factory .308 FN SPR A3G w/ no modifications + Atlas Bipod + Vortex PST 6x24, Handloads (Lapua Brass/Sierra MatchKing 168gr/42 Gr of RE15, Fed 210M primers); Groups: 0.677" / 1.021" / 1.153" / 0.607" / 0.934" = avg. 0.8784" = 0.839 MOA

71.crmiller84: Remington 700 Tactical with 20" barrel, PA 4-14 ACSS scope, B&C stock, Harris 6-9 notched bipod, homemade sand sock; Federal Gold Medal Match 168gr SMK. Groups: 0.933/ 1.035/ 1.020/ 0.449/ 0.835 = average of 0.8544 MOA.

72.JoeMal: Savage 10T in .308 - Factory gun using Harris bipod and homemade rear bag - SWFA 3-15x Tactical - Winchester Brass, CCI Primer, 39.0 gr. RL15, 175 gr. SMK, Groups: .831", 1.035", .728", .515", 1.178" = avg. .857" = .857" MOA

73. Old_Painless : Remington 700 VLS .308- Leupold 6.5 X 20- Handloads. Groups: .81"/.73"/1.15"/.76"/1.04"/avg .089" = .858 MOA
Rifle is a RW Snyder BCR in .308, YHM SS Phantom, Meopta Optika6 4.5-27, Harris bipod, Crosstac squeeze bag, ammo is Hornady Black 168 gr AMAX.Groups:1.111-.308=.803"1.5075-.308=1.1995"1.465-.308=1.157"4.  1.2385-.308=.93055.  .7425-.308=.4345"

Total:  4.5245"/5=.9045/1.047=.8642 MOA.


74. weaverftw: Rifle: Remington 700 LTR .308 (completely stock except for optic and bipod)- Optics: SWFA SS 10x42 - Ammo: 168gr FGMM (factory loaded SMK). Groups: .608"/1.053"/1.193"/.757"/.975" = avg. .9172" = .876 MOA

75.Hanzerik: Rem 700 SPS Tactical 308, SWFA SS 10x42, B&C M40 Stock, Timney trigger.FGMM 168gr 1-3/Hornady SM 4-5 .817/.827/.907/.922/1.142 Avg: .923 = .881MOA

76.Gadsden1776 100yrds 2200MR Bergara B-14 6.5CM in AI chassis, Nightforce ATAC-R F1 5-25 Fed Amer Eagle 140gr. Match .973", .904", 1.228", .831", .716" Avg .930", .886 MOA

77.Smarcus: Remington 700 LR 30/06- Grayboe A5 stock, Timney Calvin Elite, 22 inch threaded barrel with Omega supressor - Burris XTR2 3-15 - Fed Gold Match Factory 168 grain - .942/.942/.817/.1.067/.88= AVG .93 =.889 MOA,

78.JamesP81 - Savage Hog Hunter 223 Remington.  SWFA SS 12x fixed power Ammo: Handloads, new Winchester brass, 24.8gr IMR 8208XBR, 52gr SMKs, loaded to 2.20 COL Groups: 1.004" / 0.943" / 0.996" / 0.69" / 1.036". Average = 0.934" = 0.892 MOA

79.Yatzee Squirrel: Remington 700 SPS .308 in a Bell and Carlson Medalist Stock, Vortex PST 4x16x50 68gr Hornady AMAX over 42.4 gr of Varget using CCI BR2 primers in assorted brass.  .783 + 1.013 + .921 + 1.091+ .938 4.746/5 = .9492" .906 MOA

hfrog355: Savage Model 12 LRP - 6.5 Creedmoor. Vortex PST 4-16x50, SMK 142gr, H4350. Groups: 0.92", 1.19", 1.22", 0.56", 0.86" = 4.55"/5 = 0.95" /1.047= 0.9073 MOA

FALARAK: Custom built Remington 700 6.5 Creedmoor - Leupold 6.5x20 - Hornady factory 140AMAX. Groups: 1.18"/ .955"/ .586"/ .654"/ 1.391" = avg .9532" = .9104 MOA

Joe731 - Ruger American Predator in 6.5 Grendel, Vortex 4-16 PST, 120SMK+8208XBR1.041+.922+1.344+.732+.837 = 4.8764.876/5 = 0.975 inches0.975 * (1/1.047) = .931 moa




81. Rickesis: Remington 700 SPS Tactical AAC-SD .308, B&C Medalist stock, Harris 6-9" Bipod, Bushnell XRS 4.5-30 in Vortex Precision Matched Rings, Fed GMM 175gr, groups: .505/1.061/1.175/1.40/.82 => .992" average = .948 MOA

82. RLR350, Rem 700 SPS Tactical in .308, B&C stock, Timney trigger, Nikon 6-18x40 scope, LaRue rail, Harris bipod, Cross Tac rear bag. Ammo: hand loads (First two groups were with Hornady 168 A-Max/ 42.5 RE-15. Last three groups were with Sierra 168 SMK/43.5 Varget) Groups: 1.015"/.548"/1.174"/.959"/1.058" Average: .9508" MOA

83.Spoklahoma : Savage 12FV 223 1/9 twist - Bell and Carlson Medalist - Sinclair F-Class Bipod, Vortex Viper 6.5-20x50 , Hornady 68gr Match handloads, Groups: 1.204/1.025/1.203/1.060/0.533 = avg. 1.005 = 0.960 MOA72. UtahShotgunner: Custom XP-100 (pistol) 7mmTCU- Burris 5X-Handloads. Groups: 1.271"/ 1.221"/ .945"/ .873"/ .745"/ avg. 1.011= .966 MOA

84.Dakota FAL: Ruger .308 Win - Hogue stock, BALS Mk 2 Gen 2 - Nikon Black X1000 6-24x50 - Sierra 168 gr MK hand load. Groups: 0.712"/1.186"/1.216"/1.071"/0.963" = avg. 1.030" = .984 MOA

85. maxtherabbit, fn spr - prvi 168gr match 308 groups: 1.887"/0.862"/0.442"/1.057"/0.932" = avg. 1.036" = .989 MOA

86.InkyHorseLady Stephens 200 .223, Boyds stock, SuperSniper 16x42 scope, American Eagle AR 223 50 grain.Groups: 0.796, 1.586, 0.696, 0.806, 1.086. Average: 0.994.

87. AR-180: Savage .223, BSA Scope, 1.526" / 1.211" / 0.894" / 0.734" / 0.642" = 4.997" / 5 = 0.9994"

88. sommere54 - Savage Model 10 FP-SR .223 Rem, Primary Arms 4-14x FFP - 69 gr. SMK, CCI 400 SRP, 23.1 gr. 8208XBR @ 2.270" COAL - Groups: 1.095", 1.215", 1.905", 1.355", 0.958" = Avg. Group 1.3056" = Avg. MOA 1.033

89. Hawkeye29: Remington 700 .308 - Bushnell 3200 -168gr Amax's on 44.5 grains of Varget in Lake City brass . Groups: 1.325"/1.078"/1.089"/1.1162"/0.814" = avg. 1.0936" = 1.044 MOA


Joe731 - Tikka .223, Nikon 2.5-10 of some sort, 55gr VMax and Varget.612+1.116+1.186+1.227+1.384=5.5255.525/5=1.105"1.105 * (1/1.047) = 1.05 moa


90. SecretSquirell: Remington 700 AAC-SD-.308-KRG Whiskey 3 Gen 2 chassis-Vortex PST 4-16-FGMM 175gr. Groups 1.429/.552/1.199/1.635/1.158/ avg 1.194" =1.14 MOA

SuperSecretSquirell: Remington 700 in 30-06 - Burris Eliminator 4x16e- Federal gold medal match 168gr. Groups: (1.139+1.403+.886+1.068+1.308)/5=1.1608"

91. Scattterbrains: Mossberg MVP .204 -Vortex 2.5-10x44 - Handloads. Groups: 1.218"/.780"/1.942"/1.431"/.796"/avg. 1.2334" = 1.178 MOA

92. Muad: Remington 700 SPS Tactial AAC-SD - Bushnell 6-24x50mm - 175gr SMK loads - 100 yards. Groups: 1.185"/1.583"/1.543"/1.203"/0.69"/avg. 1.2408" = 1.185 MOA

93. Hvylvy:Savage Axis .223 -Hawke Sport HD - Sierra .69 grain BTHP Handloads. Groups: .458/ .843/ 1.074/ 1.499/ 2.304/ avg. 1.235 = 1.123MOA

94 indianapwns: Savage Model 10FCP-K .308 - Vortex Viper 6.5-20x50 - Hornady Match 168gr BTHP Groups: 1.406"/1.023"/1.133"/2.078"/1.056" = avg. 1.3392" = 1.279 MOA

95. tinythief: Remington sps 700 .308- Ebay stock, Timney trigger, - Bushnell XRS 4.5-30 - Handloads 175 SMK. Groups: 1.655"/1.219"/1.228"/1.369"/0.963" = avg 1.2868"



Joe731 - Ruger American Predator in 6.5 Grendel, Vortex 4-16 PST, Hornady Black Ammo.868+1.312+1.522+1.703+1.881 =7.2867.286/5=1.457"1.457" * (1/1.047) = 1.39 moa



NotUrLawyer - Ruger RPR 6.5 Creedmoor - stock+bipod - Vortex PST Gen2 5-25x50 - Hornady American Gunner 140 gr. BTHP - 1.483 / 2.072 / 1.206 / 1.800 / 1.481 = Avg. 1.608 = 1.536 MOA



96. FaucetFace: Savage 10fp-Falcon Menace 4-12x44-Hornady 168gr A-max. Groups: 1.511”/1.035”/1.917”/2.455”/1.446”/ avg 1.6728” = 1.60 MOA

97.  Mwieczorek, 1943 Izhevsk M91/30 PU sniper rifle, Handloaded ammo, Groups: 1.79, 1.50, 1.86, 2.22, 1.78 = Average of 1.83 MOA
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Service Division (AR/AK/FAL/M1A1 etc style weapons) Iron sights at 50 yards
1. HighpowerRifleBrony, Essential Arms AR15 .223 with RRA NM barrel, RRA freefloat tube, Bushmaster NM 1/2x1/2 sights, and front and rear lead weights, 50gr VMAX handload.

0.932" + 1.026" = 1.958" = Avg. 0.979" = 0.979 MOA
2. nickforney: Noveske Recon 16" 5.56 - Geissele SSA-E trigger - Troy Iron sights - Hornady Superformance 53 grain vmax Groups: .546/ .922/ .535/ .453/ .373/ avg .5658 = 1.0806 MOA
3. Mwieczorek, Rock River NM AR-15, Geissele service rifle trigger, Bob Jones sight insert, Weller sling, 69 grain HPBT handloads, Groups: 0.560, 0.534, 0.780, 0.536, 0.659, average 0.614 = 1.17 MOA
4. Trobertson5-0: Springfield Armory(the real one!!) U.S Rifle Caliber .30 M1 -Purpose built JCG rifle. FGMM 168gr 30/06. Groups: .634"/.692"/.792"/.710"/1.042"/avg .774"= 1.48 MOA
5. Trobertson5-0: Colt Hbar Competition 1/9 - Matech irons - 52gr Berger match HP handload. Groups: 1.114"/.885"/.868"/.827"/.632/ avg .8652 = 1.65 MOA
6. Hootiewho: Swiss Arms SIG 551-2SP SWAT .223 Rem, stock diopter sights, IMI 77 gr Razor Core ammo. 1.76" + 1.445" + 0.997" + 0.752" + 1.252" = 1.242"/1.047 = 1.186 MOA
7. AEnemaBay: Bulgarian AK-74 (home built), stock iron sights, 1989 Bulgarian 7n6 surplus. Groups: 0.786" / 0.786" / 0.786" / 1.098" / 1.161"/ Avg 0.923" = 1.762 MOA
8. fervid_dryfire: DPMS 5.56mm/.223 - Geisselle trigger- Iron sights- Fiocchi 55gr FMJ. Groups: .629/.943/.854/1.505/.671 = avg. .9204" = 1.7994 MOA  
9.Old_Painless/ M1A Springfield, .308, iron sights, 50 yds, Handloads/ Groups 1.215/ .790/ .728/ .720/ .752/ Average= .841/ = 2.00 MOA
10.Patchouli/ bushy postban 20"/ff handguard/weighted a1 stock/ Iron sights (rear folding)/black hills 69 grn otm red box/1.536, 1.826, 1.141, .955, 1.175

Avg=1.266" x2= 2.2532" / 1.047= 2.152 MOA
11. EJThor: 1940 Swiss K31, 7.5x55 Swiss - Stock Iron Tangent Sights - GP11 - Groups: 1.031" / 1.045" / 1.182" / 1.624" / 1.131" = Ave. 1.2026" = 2.297MOA
12. EJThor: 1899 Oberndorf Swedish M96 Mauser. 6.5x55 Swede - Stock iron tangent sights (300M zero) - PPU 120gr OTM. Groups: 1.540" / 0.881" / 1.306" / 1.351" / 1.095" Average: 1.2346" @ 50yd = 2.358 MOA  
13. Old_Painless: Swiss K-31 - iron sights - Swiss milsurp ammo. Groups .965"/.914"/.847"/1.529"/.869"/Avg 1.0248 = 2.45 MOA
14. HighpowerRifleBrony: M4gery in 5.56 - Core15 16" 1:7, UTG Pro freefloat rail, NM A2 lower - Ultradot 30 - 25gr Varget/53gr VMAX. Groups: 2.6"/2.63"/2.5"/2.5"/2.7" = avg. 2.59" = 2.47 MOA
15. Old_Painless/ Springfield 1903, .30-06, iron sights, 50 yds/ Handloads/ Groups: .877/ 1.075/ 1.291/ 1.434/ .932/ Average 1.1218/ = 2.68 MOA
16. Old_Painless: M-48 Mauser, 8mm, iron sights, 50 yds, handloads. Groups: .531/ 1.479/ 1.130/ 1.683/ .804/ Avg = 1.1254 = 2.69 MOA
17. Muad: ADCO SPR - RRA two-stage - GI style iron sights - 77gr SMK Black Hills. Groups: 0.5825"/1.171"/1.922"/1.835"/1.771"/ avg. 1.4563" = 2.78 MOA
18. Old_Painless: Swedish 6.5 Mauser- iron sights - milsurp. Groups: .885/ 1.572/ 1.556/ .916/ 1.260/ Avg 1.2378 = 2.95 MOA
19. Old_Painless: .303 Enfield, irons, 50 yds, handloads. Groups: 2.455/ 1.439/ .768/ 1.063/ 1.287/ Avg= 1.4024 = 3.35 MOA
20. GardensandGuns/ Springfield M1A Loaded/ .308 PPU 168gr match Groups:1.975/2.243/2.135/2.055/2.682 = 2.218 -.308= 1.91"/.5235= 3.65MOA
21. Ragedracer1977: Spikes Tactical 16" M4 upper - Magpul MBUS- 55gr pulled M193 in front of 25.5 grains WC844. Groups: 3.1" / 2.1" / 0.872" / 2.922" / 1.941" = avg. 2.193" = 4.190 moa
22. BillyDoubleU : DPMS AP4 .223/5.56 Groups: 2.856"/2.356"/2.226"/1.776"/1.616" =Avg 2.166" = 4.332 MOA
23. Old_Painless: 1917 Eddystone - iron sights - handloads. Groups: 1.101/ 1.904/ 1.880/ 2.151/ 2.074/ Avg 1.822 = 4.35 MOA
24. FaucetFace: Springfield M1 Garand-HXP greek surplus 30-06. Groups: 2.592”/1.549”/2.885”/3.698”/1.298”/ avg 2.4044” = 4.59 MOA
25. Kalahnikid: M1 Garand 30-06 - Greek HXP. Groups: 3.092"/2.432"/1.92"/3.112"/2.292"/ avg 2.5696= 4.91 MOA

Non-Magnified Optic at 50 yards
1.lefty-weaver-g19, BCM 14.5" upper, eotech, alg trigger, 75 grain hornady tap and 77 grain smk handloads, 1.006/ 0.819/ 0.570/ 0.764/ 0.693= 0.770 avg X 2= 1.540= 1.471 moa
2.MB121: M4A1 Block II build with Colt M4A1 barrel, 5.56mm, Aimpoint T1, random assortment of FGMM and Win Ranger 69 gr Match. Groups: 0.638", 0.875", 0.946", 1.106", 0.483"= Average 0.810" = 1.547 MOA
3.wiseanhyzer: 11.5" SBR, DD barrel, PA AMD, G2S trigger, 5.56 Specwar K, 50gr Federal AE .223Groups: 0.956, 0.694, 1.055, 0.6845, 0.746 = 4.1355" x 2= 8.271" / 5 = 1.6542" / 1.047 = 1.579 MOA
4. hammermill290; LMT MRP 14.5" 5.56 on Mega Lower with G2S trigger - Aimpoint H-1 - bulk reloads with Hornady 55gr SP; Groups: 1.065/0.956/0.921/0.653/0.551= avg 0.8292" = 1.584 moa
5.nickforney: Stag upper 5.56 - Eotech - xm193. Groups: .990/ 1.143/ 1.220/ .922/ 1.002/ avg 1.06" = 2.02 moa
6. FaucetFace: AR SBR-BCM 11.5” upper-AAC M42000-Aimpoint micro-Hornady 75gr BTHP over 25gr Varget. Groups: 1.18”/1.27”/1.434”/1.205”/1.581”/ avg. 1.334” = 2.55 MOA
7.Mike_P:BCM 11.5" with SilencerCo Saker 7.62 - Primary Arms micro on ADM q/d, ADI 69gr Match (SMK), Groups 2.695 / 3.380 / 3.174 / 2.168 / 1.885 = avg 2.660 MOA
8. BillyDoubleU: Spike 16" midlength 5.56/.223 1:7, Aimpoint CompM3, Wolf WPA 55gr FMJ Polyformance: 1.196", 1.496", 1.736", 1.816", 1.866"= 1.622" avg = 3.244 MOA
9.  M4A1Carbine: DPMS AR15 5.56 - EOTech 512 - 55gr .223. Groups: 2.776"/2.526"/1.651"/1.276"/.901" = avg 1.826" = 3.4874 MOA
10. Ratfink57: Vepr .308 16"-muzzle device- Aimpoint M2, 80s British surplus L2A2. Groups: 1.542 / 1.760 / 1.955 / 2.229 / 2.142 Avg. 1.926 = 3.678 MOA
11. nickforney: SGL 31 - Trijicon RMR 8 moa - Hornady 60gr steel case vmax. Groups: 3.037/ 1.845/ 1.841/ 1.800/ 2.072/ avg 2.12" = 4.04 MOA
12. SouthEndXGF: MSAR STG 556 - E4 16" 5.56x45/.223 - no customization - Eotech 512 - Wolf WPA 62gr HP Steel Case . Groups: 2.852/1.526/2.833/3.224/2.940/avg 4.675"= 7.110 MOA

*buckstrucks: Ruger Ranch Rifle 5.56, Houge stock, Vortex Viper PST 1-4 set at 1x, handload 55g VMAX Groups: 1.41"/1.17"/1.89"/1.91"/1.06"/ avg 1.48" = 2.82 MOA

*Magnified Optic set to X1.

22lr Division

Any 22lr rifle with iron sights at 25 yards

1. Green_Canoe: CZ 452 Lux (left handed) - stock iron sights -Ammo: Eley Tenex. Groups: 0.308 / 0.222 / 0.441 / 0.430 / 0.692 = 0.4186 Ave. = 1.60 MOA
2. RobertL, Savage MK II VFT in 22LR, Stock rifle and factory sights, no modifications. Lapua Standard Plus 22lr. Group sizes .618, .478, .421, .319 & .295 = Average group size .4262 = MOA 1.628
3. EJThor: Mossberg 42 Mb(a) WWII trainer .22lr - Stock iron sights - CCI Standard Velocity 40gr LRN. Groups: 0.412" / 0.467" / 0.338" / 0.423" / 0.518" = avg 0.433" = 1.654 MOA
4.Batmanacw Ruger 10/22, tech sights, power custom trigger components, stock barrel Wolf MT.406, .440, .507, .648, .168 = .434 Average
1.736 MOA average
5.Lichter50: Mossberg M44US - Stock Iron Sights - CCI Standard Velocity 40gr Groups: 0.3285 + 0.4695 + 0.271 + 0.603 + 0.5135 = 0.4371 avg
6. RobertL, Savage MK II VFT in 22LR, Stock rifle and factory sights, no modifications. Lapua Standard Plus 22lr. Group sizes .618, .478, .421, .319 & .295 = Average group size .4262 = MOA 1.628
7. Muad: Muad-built Spike's ST-22 AR in M4 config- GI iron sights - CCI AR Tactical 40gr .22LR. Groups: .267"/.0296"/.417"/.699"/.795" = avg. 0.4948" = 1.89 MOA
8.Torf, stock Remington 521-T, open sights, CCI Standard Velocity, Groups: 0.359"/0.632"/0.503"/0.572"/0.451" Average = 0.503" or 1.921 MOA
9. Old_Painless: Remington Speedmaster .22 LR at 25 yards, iron sights and prayer, Wolf Match. Groups .673"/.441"/.579"/.437"/.659'/ Avg .558" = 2.13 MOA
10. Muad: Muad-built Spike's ST-22 AR in M4 config- SSA trigger- GI iron sights - CCI AR Tactical 40gr .22LR. Groups: .386"/1.071"/.968"/.658"/.877" = avg. 0.792" = 3.03 MOA
11. Green Canoe: Savage 4C (Circa 1936) iron sights @ 25 yards Ammo: Remington Target Rifle Groups: 1.138 / .459 / .950 / .731 / .847 Avg= 0.825" = 3.15 MOA
12.ANDRAPOS: Marlin 795 .22LR with YHM Mite silencer - Iron sights (Tech Sights) - CCI Segmented Hollowpoint Subsonic 40grn 1050fps - GROUPS @ 25yds: .515, .755, 1.576, .709, .630. Average CTC @ 25yds 0.837" = 3.348 @ 100yds = 3.197 MOA
13 nickforney: Henry 22 - CCI subsonic - irons. Groups: .778/ 1.120/ .810/ .832/ .677/ avg .843= 3.22MOA
14. nickforney: Ruger 10/22- CCI subsonic -irons. Groups: .917/ 1.255/ .405/ .958/ .941/ avg .8952 = 3.419 MOA
15.BillyDoubleU- Ruger 10/22 with Tech Sights and free float barrel Ammo- 36gr CCI Mini Mag CJHP Groups- 0.597", 1.037", 0.997", 1.507", 0.837" Avg= 0.9936" MOA= 3.97
16.mnandy, Remington 510 22lr, Federal gold medal match, .677/.377/.1.577/.627/.927= average 1.046 = 4moa
17. wmterry89: Remington 513T .22 - Redfield sights- CCI 22 short. Groups: 1.367 / .974 / 1.874 / .862 / 1.727/ Avg. 1.361= 5.20 MOA
18.  jwatts: Norinco 22 ATD 22LR- Stock- Federal Auto Match 40gr Groups:1.175/1.815/1.315/1.1.153/1.306/ Avg 1.353in =5.666 MOA

Any 22lr rifle with non-magnified optic at 50 yards

1. ShiftSix: Winchester Model 52B .22LR- iron sights- Federal Gold Match. Groups: .952" /.371" / .319" /.455" /.404" = avg .5002" = .96 MOA
2. Mwieczorek Winchester 52D, Redfield International sights with adjustable rear iris, Wolf Match Target ammo, Groups: 0.610, 0.656, 0.602, 0.730, 0.469, average 0.613" = 1.17 MOA
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Any 22lr rifle with magnified optic at 50 yards

1. PIDDLER: Ruger 10-22 - Green Mountain barrel - Timney trigger - Wolf Match Target .22LR. Groups: .268"/.242"/.380"/.349"/.407"/avg .3292" = .629 MOA
2. billyhill: Suhl kk-150-1 22 LR/ Weaver T-36X scope/SK Pistol Match/ Groups: 0.392 / 0.299 / 0.360 / 0.352 / 0.247 = 0.630MOA
3. Old_Painless: Ruger 10-22 - Leupold 4 X 12 - Wolf Match. Groups: .270"/.288"/.247"/.420"/.377"/ avg .3204" = .765 MOA
4. Torf: modified Ruger 10/22 w/ Green Mountain 20" barrel & Archangel stock, Vortex Crossfire II 4-12x50AO scope, Wolf Match Target, Groups: 0.482"/0.357"/0.414"/0.334"/0.514" Average = .4202" or 0.803 MOA
5. billyhill: Sako P-94 22 LR/ Leupold 6.5x20 VXIII scope/SK Standard Plus/ Groups: 0.459 / 0.541 / 0.454 / 0.402 / 0.375 MOA = 0.852
6. Old_Painless: Savage Mark II BSEV .22 R - Leupold 6.5 X 20 - Wolf Match. Groups: .313"/.664"/.324"/.341"/.155"/ avg .3594" = .858 MOA

Redbirdxx, CZ 455 American, Yodave trigger mod, Vortex 4-16 HS-T, Harris bipod,  Crosstac squeeze bag, Wolf Target Match. Groups: .240", .685", .716", .386", .339" = .473" average= .904 MOA

7. GAhunter95: Ruger 77/22. Silencerco Sparrow. trigger job by me. BSA Sweet 22 3-9. Wolf match. 0.670/0.619/0.347/0.347/0.618 = 0.452 (x2) = 0.950 = 0.907 MOA
8. Mwieczorek, Savage MkII BV, BSA Platinum target scope, 36x44, cheap Harris knock off bipod, Lapua Center X ammo, Groups: .309, .796, .280, .591, .403, average 0.476" = 0.909 MOA
9. indianapwns: Anschutz Match 64 - Nikon Prostaff 3-9x40 - Remington-Eley EPS. Groups: 0.267"/0.614"/0.560"/0.527"/0.418" = avg. 0.4772" = .9116 MOA
10. MJMJR1312: Ruger American Rimfire 22lr - Form 1 suppressor + Leupold 10. VX1 2-7 rimfire CCI SV - .496/.654/.402/.541/.373 = 0.4932 = 0.9424 MOA
11. goloud, 10/22, Volquartsen bbl, Timney trigger, Hawke 8-32x, Eley 40gr hollow point : .374" + .514" + .57" + .655" + .483" AVG = 0.5192" = .992 MOA
12. MSC182: Ruger American 8334 .22LR with Silencerco Spectre II-Primary Arms 4-16 X 44-Eley Target. Groups: .394/.753/.509/.557/.391=.5208 avg=.995 MOA
13. D_Man: Savage MkII FV-SR in Boyd's Tacticool Stock- Primary Arms 4-16x44 SFP- Eley Target 40gr. Groups: 0.803"/0.699"/0.525"/0.441"/0.417" = avg. 0.577" = 1.102 MOA
14 UtahShotgunner: Haenal .22rf - Redfield 20X- Federal Gold Medal Ultra Match. Groups: .473"/ .640"/ .593"/ .615"/ .531"/ avg. .577" = 1.10 MOA
15. azoutdoorsman, Savage FVSR .22lr-completely OEM, Weaver Tactical 2-10x36 FFP EMDR reticle, CCI Standard, Groups: .932", .318", .841", .495", .521" =3.107/5=.621= 1.127 MOA
16.Holden_McRoyne: CZ 452 American - Intensity Optics 3.8-12x44 - Federal Auto Match. Groups: 0.959" / 0.564" / 0.362" / 0.525" / 0.622" = avg 0.606" = 1.158 MOA
17.Mwieczorek, Harrington & Richardson M12 in .22lr, BSA 6-24x40mm, Groups: 0.695", 0.634", 0.435", 0.590", 0.745" = average of 0.6198" = 1.184 MOA
18.excatm76: Savage MK II .22 LR - DIP cheek rest, Krylon by MrsExcatm, limbsaver recoil pad for LOP - Weaver Kaspa 2.5-10x50 - Eley Club. Groups: .257"/ .782"/.894"/.754"/.436" = 1.19 MOA
19. OhioLongRange: Savage mk2 FVSR, wolf match target, 4x14x scope. ------------------------------ 1.46 MOA
20. jwatts: Savage Mark 2 FVSR- Burris 6.5-20x50- Federal Auto Match 40gr Groups: .536, 1.001, .973, .914, .396 = .764"avg = 1.459 MOA avg
21.MrsExCatm. Savage MK II .22 LR. DIP cheek rest. Krylon by me.  Limbsaver recoil pad for LOP - Weaver Kaspa 2.5-10x50 - Eley Club. Groups: 1.454"/ .660"/.419"/1.013"/.630" = 1.60 MOA
22. wiseanhyzer: Ruger 10/22, 16" barrel, Nikon 2-7x32, SiCo Warlock II, 40gr CCI standard velocity.Groups: 0.62, 0.712, 0.782, 0.802, 1.693 = 4.609" x 2= 9.218" / 5 = 1.8436" / 1.047 = 1.760 MOA
23. trobertson5-0: CZ455 American 22lr - Leupold 2-7X- Wolf Match Extra. Groups: .795"/ 1.843"/ .647"/ .946"/ .533"/ avg. .9528" = 1.820 MOA
24. America / ruger10/22 / Vortex diamondback 2-7 rimfire on 7x / ely sport 40 grain / 2.422/2.9/.99/1.889/1.786 = 1.997avg
25. jwatts: Marlin Model 60 22LR- Burris 6x32- Federal Auto Match 40gr Groups: .965/.786/1.465/1.046/1.111/ Avg 1.075 =2.251 MOA

Any 22lr with magnified optic at 100 yards

1.jb31: Savage Mark II FV-SR .22lr - Cabelas Pine Ridge 4-12x40 - Gemtech Outback IID - Aguila standard velocity 40gr Groups: .7614 / .7145 / .5114 / .7926 / .4489 = avg .6458 = .6168 MOA

GAhunter95: Ruger 77/22. Silencerco Sparrow. trigger job by me. BSA Sweet 22 3-9. Wolf match. .931/.806/.911/1.008/.703 = 0.8718" = 0.832 MOA

2. EXCATM76: Savage MK II FV - DIP cheek piece - Mueller APV 4.5-14x40 EGW scope base - SK Rifle Match. Groups: .917"/1.69"/.782"/.404"/1.128" = Average .9842" = .940 MOA
3..billyhill: Suhl KK 150-1, 22lr, Possum hollow fore end adapter, Weaver T-36X scope, SK Pistol Match Groups: 1.23”, 0.62”, 1.21”, 0.88”, 1.27” Ave: 1.042 MOA=1 (0.995)
4. L_JE: Ruger 10/22 Targ.Tac. 16" 1/16, BSA 4-16x Mil Dot, Eley Match ammo. Groups: 1.214"/2.214"/0.901"/1.901"/1.901" = avg 1.626" = 1.55 MOA
5. Torf modified Ruger 10/22 w/ Green Mountain 20" barrel & Archangel stock.  Vortex Crossfire II 4-12x50AO  CCI Green Tag - 1.345"/2.078"/1.954"/1.720"/1.395" Average = 1.698"or 1.621 MOA
6. jwatts: Savage Mark 2 FVSR- Burris 6.5-20x50- Federal Auto Match 40gr Groups: 1.547, 1.055, 1.217, 2.563, 2.077 = 1.692"avg = 1.616 MOA avg
7. jwatts: Marlin Model 60 22LR- Burris 6x32- Federal Auto Match 40gr Groups: 3.431/2.418/1.97/2.065/3.04/ Avg 2.585 =2.706 MOA

Misc Small Bore Division (.17 to .22 Hornet etc) Any sighting system (Irons/Non-Magnified/Magnified) at 100 Yards

1.Ragedracer1977: Savage 93R-17F in .17 HMR - Rifle Basix Trigger- Centerpoint 3-9x32- CCI 17gr TNT. Groups: 0.511" / 0.465" / 1.193" / 0.481" / 0.609" = avg. 0.652" = 0.622 moa
2.FaucetFace: Savage 93r17-AAC element-Vortex crossfire 4-12x50-Hornady 17gr v-max. Groups: 1.899”/1.878”/1.39”/2.594”/2.501” = avg 2.0524” = 1.96 MOA

Misc smallbore @ 50

1. Gahunter95. Marlin 17VS (stock) Leupold Varix-II 3-9x. Hornady 15.5gr ammo. Groups .346, .642, .334, .492, .629. Average = .4886. double it for 100 yard calculation = 0.9772. MOA = 0.9333

Unlimited Class (Any unlisted rifle setup shot using a benchrest, lead sled, large rear sand bag, or any other gear that would otherwise disqualify you.)
1.billyhill: Savage F-TR 223 Rem, Weaver 36X, Various hand loads and seating depths Groups: 0.684, 0.438, 0.378, 0.388, 0.986, 0.531, 0.564, 0.411, 0.362, 0.594 = 5.336" = 0.5336 Ave 0.5336/1.047= 0.5096 = 0.510 MOA
2. Old_Painless: Remington 700 - Leupold scope- Kahntrol Brake- handloads. Groups: .409/ .545/ .718/ .436/ .807/ Avg .583" = .556 MOA
3. Old_Painless: Accuracy International AE, Leupold scope, handloads, muzzle brake. Groups: .494/ .504/ .509/ .516/ .915/ Average .5876 = .561 MOA  
4. Old_Painless, Savage .308, Leupold Scope, handloads. Groups .653/ .658/ .745/ 1.124/.303 = Average .6966 = .665 MOA
5. Subnet. Savage .223, with Leupold 25X scope and handloads by Old_Painless. .821/ .694/ .806/ .434/ .858. Average .7226 for .69 MOA.
5. Old_Painless: DPMS .223 AR-15 - Leupold scope -Kahntrol Brake, handloads. Groups: .874/ .994/ .634/ .698/ .786/ Avg .797" = .761 MOA
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ThisWildAdventure   My $340 Ruger 8334 will shoot .8 MOA at 100 all day.  Proven false.
 

Winkychevelle  My r700 5r 223 shoots .3moa really consistent and it's rare to have over .5 with ammo it likes. With generic ammo its usually sub moa

NSEGE   I have a Tikka (Forest) in 6.5x55. Once I found out that hot loads are best (or S&B 140 "SE")... I'm getting, easily, 2800 fps out of Hornaday ELD-X and also easily 1/4 MOA



IndyGrendel63:  I proceeded to shoot very consistent 0.5” groups at 100 yards with mil surp m193.



Red127 I get .5 MOA out of mine at 100 yards. (BCM 14.5 SOCOM upper)bionic589 My Bushmaster shoots MOA all day long with M855 @100.t



hegipper453   I can shoot 1/2 MOA groups all day long with my DD at 100 yards.



tlf01951 I have 4 uppers with different optics, all used one one M-16 lower. 2 are 14.5 and 2 are 16 inch. All are FN Mountain series Mid weight. All soot 1/2 inch groups with Military M855 ammunition 160 yards.



229357   SMOS 13.7” match grade barrel with a midlength gas system. I pinned and welded a muzzle brake that brings total length to 16”. It shoots sub MOA



Wanabgunsmith:  federal GMM 175 shoots about as good as my best handloads, sub .5 5 shot groups consistantly,



Al303:  Have a 16" mid (BA barrel) on latest build. Sub moa is with match ammo but if i do my part the barrel does its. Will definitely buy more, actually ordering a few more soon



ThePitt: I have a 16" SPR (BA barrel) profile that will shoot 10 shot MOA groups, very happy with this barrel.



LRRPF52  I've shot sub-MOA at 300m with an Eotech with 55gr M193heavymetal762 Black Hole barrel One ragged hole at 100yrds for a 3 or 5 round group? Pshh, I do that with an entire 10rnd magazine.Freq18hz   My rec7 is sub moa all day long



AmericanCheese: My last build features an RA 16" match 1:7 barrel that is really starting to shoot well.  So far, 62 gr. seems to be the sweet spot, and will shoot sub moa if I do my part.Idpapaperoperator For reference, my Rainier match (just match, not ultra) shoots 1moa at 100 yards with wolf wpa.



Stripeknight  Another troll that likes to run his mouth but cannot back it up."I had a Noveske/LaRue once, I traded it in for a PSA as it shot way way better." & "Id pay full price for a PSA before I bought a LaRue on sale, still cheaper and shoot exactly the same."



Rooster-Cogburn : I have a cheap ass no name 20" upper that can shoot groups like that with good ammo. http://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/57761/82344.JPG



Scotts556: Wilson combat. I got one. Pretty good barrel. Shoots factory varmint stuff right at 1MOA. Handloads easy <1MOA.



Hoyle33 : I have a $160 Nikon P-223 3-9x40 on my 16" AR and I can group within 1/2" at 100 yards.



spentbrass556 : Sub MOA claim



cmshoot .338 DRD  she shot an easy .5MOA with 2 different bullet weights; 250 and 300grns.Wolverine08:  My 11.5" is easily 1 MOA with good ammo all day.bamatide15: I always break in a Nitride barrel and consistently achieve 1/2" MOA groups with the proper ammunition



ChrisWMT:  I shoot 1/2MOA all day longmiddleman:  My SCAR17 on the other hand runs just fine on the same ammo with reasonable 1-2 MOA accuracymotoguzzi: Switched to 168 grain match ammo and sub MOA groups were the norm (Sig 716)



kk7sm: I tried some handloads I'd done and it was MOA or better. (Sig 716)



Aare: I could shoot dime sized groups at 100 yards no problem with cheap federal 150 gr ammo and a crappy Mueller scope I had on it in college. (700P)



BeefaloBart :using bulk american eagle 55g XM193 ball ammo, I get 1/2 to 3/4 MOA all day long



ben123:  I shoot four shot groups, 3 are 1/2 MOA recently built SPR with a WOA 18" barrel. ( i used CBC OTM 77gr 556)spydercrabb1990:  I can shoot sub moa with irons on the right AR platform and ammo,Johnny_C: I was able to get my Springfield SAR-3 to sub 1/2 minuteAres_Defense:  This particular rifle is 1/4 MOA



Texas_Heat:  Have a Rem 700 XCR Tac LR with a Vortex PST 6-24x50 that shoots half MOA all day



TNC: I have a rifle capable of 0.5 MOA. That's 1.5 inches at 300 yards.coloccw: I've got over 60K rounds through one of mine. Still sub MOA barrel. I've used it for teaching subgun courses where we've shot 10K+ rounds in a week.



Smokey99: Getting 1 MOA out to 300 yds. with 75 gr BTHP (Hornady H2279), and 1 MOA at 100 yds with bulk 55 gr (Hornady H2267 fmj)



77Bronc: My MWS is very accurate, with 168 FGMM it will shoot 3/4" MOA



77Bronc:  out of the box Remington SPS Tactical in a Manners stock with a Timney trigger This is basically a half inch and then a 5/8" inch groups



memsu: My Dad has 3 BARs in 7mm Mag, 30-06, and 270. All shoot MOA or less. The 270 does nearly 1 hole groups if you do your part.MyAliyah: Colt Elite at 100yds. We were getting less than 1" groups (with M855) M193 got about the same groupings



_DR: My DSA SA58 gets 1 MOA or better with premium ammo.



fps: My brother and I both have them. Ours love 168 gr FGMM. Sub moa all day.



Trollslayer: I get 1/2 MOA (1") vertical dispersion plus whatever drift due to wind. I test at 200 yards. I simply cannot shoot better than that.



Dirtymoe21: Shot .58 (100 yards) out of my newly built SPR.gotigers: I like my 5R as is, factory except for a Jewel trigger, Harris bipod, Vortex PST 4-16 mrad and 20MOA base............ It is a 1/2 MOA rifle at 100



Holes: RRA has a lifetime warranty and shoots 3\4 MOA with Federal XM193. Just my observation.lucky_dog: My 24" FCP-SR is also a .5 MOA gunkp751: My 24" fcp-hs shoots 1/2 moa.



JayC: RRA LAR-8 X1. Cool looking, and has a great barrel. Also, it shoots well under 1 MOA (close to 1/2MOA) using FGMM



Silverjay: All my loads that shoot well ( .3 MOA) The ones that cycle well shoot .75 MOA



Brandon21: Savage Hog Hunter,  I shoot Hornady A-Max 168, shoots 1/2-3/4" if I do my part with boring regularity.MadcapMagician: They'll shoot sub quarter MOA at 100, hold sub half to 1000 and at least sub MOA at 1300yds.



tigermilk: DPMS Mk12 barrel I have 2, and with black hills mk 262, they both shoot consistently under 1 MOA.rideage:  Rainier match barrel here...easily 1 MOA with handloads



brickeye: I have a Berger built live varmint rifle with tight necks on all the barrels. It is scary accurate. Good enough to change barrels, dial in the offset for the new barrel and shoot under 1/4 inch at 100 yards.rksonex: X2 I have A rainier select that shoots .6 MOA all day with 75gr Hornady. I have a 16" select that shoots Sub MOA with m193 and .5 MOA with 75gr handholds.Pirkle: I have two of the Stag Model 6's and they shoot sub MOA at 100 yards.  I also have several RRA rifles that shoot sub MOA.



southpaw68: I'm having really good luck with 165gn Sierra GameKings..sub .5" when I do my part.



buck19delta:  Claiming a 5 shot sub MOA group.swimshoot: Out of the 6 ARs I oown, only one is a RRA, but it runs just over 3/4 (MOA) with BH 77s.



cantgrowup: I shot a 100 yd sub-MOA group with Magpul plastic flip-up sights.(IMI razor-core)



NorthPolar: My 10LE holds 2/3moa with 75gr Hornady match



gytheran : My 583 (mini-14) stainless model has put my amateur reloads sub MOA(yes, 100yds) using only front supported sandbags and a 3x nikon p-223 in semi-rapid fire succession.



ISED8U: My FN SPR was half moa or better from the day I took it out of the box.



blueheeler66:  I have an early SR-25 that is sub 0.5 MOA



molar: I'd put my 16" Daniel Defense barrel up against any. After putting a 1-4 on it, it routinely does 3/4 MOA at 100Hydra-shokz: Looks like a bunch of buckshot patterns! Shit, I ain't even gonna get my good ammo out to crush you fuckers!!!



Howie_Phelterbush:  my $849 remington shoots .80! with a $250 scope



xLucidx: Shoots .25 moa at 100 if I do my part.  Posted a 3 shot group that was nice but didn't complete the challenge akethanMblades: My SR-15 shoots sub MOA with several different kinds of ammo.imartez:  The Wilson (barrel) is dead nuts accurate. 1/2 moa @ 100 yards, easily



oldrock:   It is a ruger bolt action in .308 with a Nikon 3x9 scope and quick detach sling. the thing shoots great (1"@100 yards all day long)tactical45: I am very happy with my Spike's 16" mid length chf barrel. It is as accurate as I hoped it would be. It will shoot around 1.5" at 100 yard with xm193 and less than 1" with my handloads.



RobHazmat My (PSA) runs all day with whatever I put in it and I can hit sub MOA at 200 yards with a primary arms 14x optic.NormallyAspirated2:My Rem 700 308 shoots 3 168gr bullets into less than .25 @100 best 3 shot was .104"



M4HK33: No need to. (join in the MOA thread) There are already plenty of rifles in that thread that outshoot OBR's at 1/3 to 1/2 the cost.(He likes to run his mouth and make fun but won't man up and post his own entry)



Dragynn "Both my veeps'll do that now most of the time, not really earth-shaking." (referring to 1 MOA) original threadKatrina24: "if thats with a scope get your money back....... you shoud get 1 MOA at 100 yards with A2 open sights.. with a scope I can put rounds in the same holes @100 M and 1MOA at 300 M." original thread



Layer60: "Don't care what anyone says, there are some $600 rifles off the shelf that will shoot a dime-sized group at 100 yards, right out of the box. With Hornady Match A-Max rounds or similar (I'm not sure what's similar), you can punch the same hole repeatedly if you're even a half-assed shooter." original thread



thewildman: "it is a .308 at 100 yards, you should be able to shoot a better group than that blindfolded and offhand. and yes, at that distance with a semi decent shooter behind it, it should make one jagged hole." (referring to ~.5" 3-shot group) original thread



CoolioDot223: "My A Bolt .270 with a 4x Sporter scope does 3 shot ragged hole at 100."original thread



zwVirtual: I can shoot an AR-15 with iron sights and get almost as good of a grouping. (referring to .5” 3-shot group) original thread



JAD762: "My off the shelf Browning does 1/3 in groups at 100. After spending a year tuning ammo to it."original thread



88_Sahara: "My SPS tactical shot better groups than that with milsurp. (referring to .5” 3-shot group)"original thread



BubbaDog81: "I can do that with my stock 700 at 100 yards. (referring to .5” 3-shot group)"original thread



dillehayd: "Last bolt gun I had was a 700 in .270 w/ a 4-10x Leupold from a sporting goods store. It shot groups like that all day long. (referring to .5” 3-shot group)"original thread



Scottfn308: "Most any off the rack hunting rifle will do 1 MOA nowdays." original thread



Buck19Delta: "it looks like it shoots well.... try some different ammo.....you should be able to get better than a 1/2 inch at 100 yards. i can do that with my stock LTR, and model 7, XCR, with no trouble. happy shooting!"original thread



DigDug "That three shot group at 100 yards off a bench should be an enlarged ragged hole, not three separate holes. (referring to .5” 3-shot group)" original thread



Skillshot - "I can't quite crack 1 moa with ten shot groups.  But I can do it with 5 shot groups...all day. I won't post my 5 shot groups in your thread because 5 shot groups just don't matter. "



opnblstr - "To all the naysayers, I can do an inch and a half at 300 with my match A2 laid across my shooting bag and have at least one AR with optics that can do this all day long at 100 - 30 rounds at a time."



wtfboombrb - "Anything Savage will be your best bet out of the box. My 12BVSS makes 5 shot groups down to .2 inch with a hastily worked up load. It will easily put shots 5-25 starting from a clean barrel into .4 inch. On a good day they'll all go into .3 inch."



sdc360 - "Rock River R3.... I get 3/4 moa from it using 55 grain federal American eagle bulk ammo. "
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Want us to paste entries over or just keep the link?
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So are both threads staying active (the one in GD and Here) or are we moving over to this one? If moving to this one the one in GD should get locked with a final post to come over here. just my $.02    

I'm going out to the range tomorrow morning. hope to move up the board.
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So are both threads staying active (the one in GD and Here) or are we moving over to this one? If moving to this one the one in GD should get locked with a final post to come over here. just my $.02    

I'm going out to the range tomorrow morning. hope to move up the board.
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Post all new entries in this thread. I have asked MIkeP to repost a complete entry as an example of how entries should be posted. Don't repost old entries.
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Keep in mind that this is not General Discussion.  This is a Technical Forum and stricter rules apply.

No General Discussion silliness, please.

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That's even better.
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Per Akethan's request, here is a repost of my latest entry.

Please note, the caliper picture is from a prior entry, but I wanted to include every component of an entry for people to model off of.



Same range as previous, so I kept that picture in.

1. Range at 100yards.



2. Target with 5 groups.



3. Full shot with caliper NOT adjusted for bullet size reduction.  (This is from a prior entry. Please use this as a model for future submissions.)



4. Picture of rifle as shot.




SPR 100yd; Mike_P: Larue Stealth upper .223 Rem 18"/13.2" - Predatobr Black gold trigger + Atlas Bipod + A2 stock - 12x SWFA SS in LT104, 77gr FGMM, Groups 0.597 / 0.345 / 0.249 / 0.248 / 0.265 = avg .340 MOA
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I'm really looking forward to being able to complete one of these challenges some day.. sadly, the only range i have for rifle in my area is 25yrds... I have only played at 100yrds twice and dont have an optic on my rifle so the best i could get was up in the 2.3-2.5in range for goups with magpul mbus pro irons at said 100yrds. Good luck all!!! and i hope to have a reals submission soon!!!
 
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I'm really looking forward to being able to complete one of these challenges some day.. sadly, the only range i have for rifle in my area is 25yrds... I have only played at 100yrds twice and dont have an optic on my rifle so the best i could get was up in the 2.3-2.5in range for goups with magpul mbus pro irons at said 100yrds. Good luck all!!! and i hope to have a reals submission soon!!!  
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You can do a 25 yard shoot. Just make a point to mention it and do the math.
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Target by itself at the 100yd line.

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Center target was cold bore. I adjusted to center up on the other four. (Ignore the figures on the target, I used On Target and submitted those numbers.)

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.319MOA per On Target

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Bolt div.100yd  Pro_Patria_431. .308 Remington 700 in HS Precision stock. Leupold MKIV M3 10X. FGMM 168 SMK. Shot prone off of bipod. Triad mini-wedgie bag.

.997/ .319/ .724/ .848/ .995=3.883/5= .7766 MOA

Edit to put in On Target numbers.
Link Posted: 10/20/2014 12:27:44 PM EDT
Copied from the old thread as it was towards the end. Please let me know if I need to reshoot this with 5 targets instead of 6:

I actually shot this for the sniper's hide challenge so I did 6 groups instead of 5. Not sure if it'll be accepted. Average of the 6 groups is .714" at 100 yards.




Better picture of rifle:


Home build SPR
18" Douglas Barrel CLE chamber
SSA-E
SWFA 1-6X24

Would have liked a more suitable optic for shooting groups. The targets were the right size for the reticle, but the parallax was noticeable. Not a whole lot, but it was there. I'm considering a high mag optic for it.
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I actually shot this for the sniper's hide challenge so I did 6 groups instead of 5. Not sure if it'll be accepted. Average of the 6 groups is .714" at 100 yards.
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It's not my call, but I see no reason why it shouldn't count.
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It's not my call, but I see no reason why it shouldn't count.
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Originally Posted By Lennyo3034:

I actually shot this for the sniper's hide challenge so I did 6 groups instead of 5. Not sure if it'll be accepted. Average of the 6 groups is .714" at 100 yards.


It's not my call, but I see no reason why it shouldn't count.


How big is that rear bag?
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How big is that rear bag?
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Originally Posted By lefty-weaver-g19:
Originally Posted By Lennyo3034:

I actually shot this for the sniper's hide challenge so I did 6 groups instead of 5. Not sure if it'll be accepted. Average of the 6 groups is .714" at 100 yards.


It's not my call, but I see no reason why it shouldn't count.


How big is that rear bag?


http://www.triadtactical.com/GA-Precision-Rear-Bag.html

It's turned sideways in the picture.
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Disregard.

Chris



Link Posted: 10/20/2014 8:04:50 PM EDT
Chris, you need to follow the proper format for a submission.
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Chris, you need to follow the proper format for a submission.
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OK...I'll take my ball and go home.

Chris
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OK...I'll take my ball and go home.

Chris
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Chris, you need to follow the proper format for a submission.


OK...I'll take my ball and go home.

Chris


Whatever floats your boat, Sir.
Link Posted: 10/21/2014 6:16:22 PM EDT
Here is some sand. Use a stick appropriately.

I have no idea how to post a scan of the target and have nothing to prove to anyone.
Kelbly Panda action, right bolt left port.
.22-250 AI barrel (the 6m Rem AI does as well at longer ranges) with a tight neck.
Factory ammo will not chamber.
Stainless barrel, 1 inch at muzzle and 26 inches long.
Premier Reticles boosted scope that ends up about 40X (glass bumps internally at the lower end). There agreement with Leupold is apparently no more.
The Kelbly scope rings are made as one piece that is them cut.

Weighs over 12 pounds last I checked.

Have a BR guy build a live varmint rifle without weight limits and all sorts of good things happen.
I stopped 'competing' long ago.



Link Posted: 10/21/2014 7:54:15 PM EDT
Slightly different beast compared to most rifles used here. Mine is similar with a glued in Panda action barreled with a SS Hart .262 neck 6PPC. Last time I shot it for fun it printed 5 in 0.111" @100yds. The gas guns are where the fun is. Started in those about 12 years ago and they will test you. Hunting for a better load for my latest AR build and then maybe I will make a submission. Not sure my BR mechanical front rest and rear bag qualify though. Cheers.

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I am so confused. The last 3 "new" posters... just... wow.
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I am so confused. The last 3 "new" posters... just... wow.
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Sorry...I think that you're referring to me, at least in part.  I remember the first day this challenge got brought up, but didn't really think much of it as I'm a reloader and post in the reloading and the 'old' precision rifle forums, often times using my target pictures to help answer this, or that question.  Most people in those forums here, or over on Snipers Hide, have seen my photos, so they have an idea that I'm not a terrible shot (or reloader.)

Yesterday, I sifted through the first set of requirements and missed all of the little add-ons and posted unsanctioned photos, which you politely pointed out weren't in the correct format, nor were they in accordance with the plethora of requirements set out in the OP.

I pulled them down and joked that I was 'taking my ball and going home.'  You obviously didn't get the humor and came back with a retort of your own.

I would have added more pictures, but I don't have them of the range I shoot at, I don't have them of my gun at the range, I didn't take pictures with my digital calipers when I measured things, so even though my target pictures illustrate a decent consistency and acceptable accuracy (<MOA) for a precision rifle type weapon, they evidently didn't pass muster for this place and had I read every word on the page, I might have saved myself the trouble of going into PhotoBucket and linking them.

While I might think that some of the requirements are superfluous, if not a bit anal, it's your playground and it's your rules and I totally understand that.

Just for the record, over on SnipersHide, members there are prohibited from posting anything less than 5 shot groups and if you shoot 100yds, you need 5 groups at least, although a single 10 shot group will suffice.  We might want to start policing all of the 3 shot FUDD groups, or singular cherry picked 5 shot groups, so we can be taken seriously.

This new 'Precision Rifles' section might want to mimic those requirements.

Chris


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I wasn't talking about you specifically, as the 2 posters who replied after you were in question as well. And I am well aware of everything going on at SH as I post there too.

For the record, this challenge is 5 groups of 5 shots taken for each group. Supply pictures of the range, target with calculations, target with measurement device for verification, and finally a picture of the rifle as it was fired I order to verify the allowed equipment was used. No -0 shot groups, no cherry picking as you need to have it on one target, no 3 shot groups, etc. So I'm not sure where you're getting that.

I'm sure you are an excellent shot and reloader. However Akethan tries to keep all the entries identical in order to keep everything fair. That's all, nothing personal.
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Originally Posted By Mike_P:
I wasn't talking about you specifically, as the 2 posters who replied after you were in question as well. And I am well aware of everything going on at SH as I post there too.

For the record, this challenge is 5 groups of 5 shots taken for each group. Supply pictures of the range, target with calculations, target with measurement device for verification, and finally a picture of the rifle as it was fired I order to verify the allowed equipment was used. No -0 shot groups, no cherry picking as you need to have it on one target, no 3 shot groups, etc. So I'm not sure where you're getting that.

I'm sure you are an excellent shot and reloader. However Akethan tries to keep all the entries identical in order to keep everything fair. That's all, nothing personal.
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Thanks again for the reply.  I'll have to pass, as I don't have the requisite photos handy, of all the other stuff this thread requries.

The reference to SH was just more of a general suggestion (requirement) for the entire Precision Rifles forum, as a whole.  People like to cherry pick their best groups and post them, or they like to snap a pic of their 'pre-deer season' sight-in targets with 3-4 shots.

It wasn't meant as a suggestion for this thread, since once I read every word in the OP, after taking down my photos, I got the gist of what's needed here.  I wouldn't be surprised if Akethan lifted the idea from SH, as Frank required a single page of 5 targets, if people wanted to post ANY target pictures a few years back.  He just didn't require photos of all of the other stuff.

Chris


Link Posted: 10/22/2014 12:27:32 PM EDT
This challenge has been running for a while. I'm not the originator just the current caretaker.

I do believe the inspiration for it came from SH.  
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Link Posted: 10/24/2014 8:40:57 PM EDT
LOL he was definitely talking about me  

Just remember another competition like this where fellow BR shooters jumped in and spoiled it for the rest. But I should have known better and kept my mouth shut. Hope you guys have a lot of fun.


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LOL he was definitely talking about me  

Just remember another competition like this where fellow BR shooters jumped in and spoiled it for the rest. But I should have known better and kept my mouth shut. Hope you guys have a lot of fun.


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It's nothing personal. You simply made a claim, as have many before you. You're more than welcome to back up that claim with proof as some have as well. Nobody here is spoiling anything. We're simply looking for proof of claims and shooting ability. Otherwise thousands of members could just jump into the post and it would go nowhere.
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I'm surprised there are not more Noveske rifles or Noveske barreled rifles in this thread.  

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I'm surprised there are not more Noveske rifles or Noveske barreled rifles in this thread.  

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There are more DPMS barreled rifles on the spr list than Noveske, WOA, or Rainier ultra match all of which are the most recommended in the "which barrel threads".
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I'm surprised there are not more Noveske rifles or Noveske barreled rifles in this thread.  

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In the AR discussion there is more hot air and bullshit spewed to justify people's purchases, then there are statements based on facts. If you want a good barrel, the AR discussion forum is the last place to ask
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In the AR discussion there is more hot air and bullshit spewed to justify people's purchases, then there are statements based on facts. If you want a good barrel, the AR discussion forum is the last place to ask
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Originally Posted By Face454:
I'm surprised there are not more Noveske rifles or Noveske barreled rifles in this thread.  


In the AR discussion there is more hot air and bullshit spewed to justify people's purchases, then there are statements based on facts. If you want a good barrel, the AR discussion forum is the last place to ask


Indeed.  I have a Noveske Afghan that I may shoot for the challenge in a couple months.  

I doubt the results will be all that impressive, and I guarantee it won't be 1/2 MOA all day like those fuckers say it is.  

The bullshit is thick on the Internets.  

And number 25 on the bolt division challenge has an error if anyone cares.

25. Hawkeye29:   .906" does not equal .792 MOA
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Indeed.  I have a Noveske Afghan that I may shoot for the challenge in a couple months.  

I doubt the results will be all that impressive, and I guarantee it won't be 1/2 MOA all day like those fuckers say it is.  

The bullshit is thick on the Internets.  

And number 25 on the bolt division challenge has an error if anyone cares.

25. Hawkeye29:   .906" does not equal .792 MOA
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Originally Posted By InfiniteGrim:
Originally Posted By Face454:
I'm surprised there are not more Noveske rifles or Noveske barreled rifles in this thread.  


In the AR discussion there is more hot air and bullshit spewed to justify people's purchases, then there are statements based on facts. If you want a good barrel, the AR discussion forum is the last place to ask


Indeed.  I have a Noveske Afghan that I may shoot for the challenge in a couple months.  

I doubt the results will be all that impressive, and I guarantee it won't be 1/2 MOA all day like those fuckers say it is.  

The bullshit is thick on the Internets.  

And number 25 on the bolt division challenge has an error if anyone cares.

25. Hawkeye29:   .906" does not equal .792 MOA



It does in meters.   Can we get some more shooters and less critics?        

This is a tech thread not a BS thread.



Hawkeye29 Remington 700 ADL .308 Winchester, Choate Ultimate Sniper stock and lightened factory trigger, Bushnell 3200 10x scope, 168gr. Hornady Amax Hand loads, 1.049"/.544"/.828"/1.059"/1.054" avg.= 0.906" .906 / 1.144(for 100meters) = .792 MOA

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http://www.triadtactical.com/GA-Precision-Rear-Bag.html



It's turned sideways in the picture.
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Originally Posted By akethan:


Originally Posted By lefty-weaver-g19:


Originally Posted By Lennyo3034:



I actually shot this for the sniper's hide challenge so I did 6 groups instead of 5. Not sure if it'll be accepted. Average of the 6 groups is .714" at 100 yards.





It's not my call, but I see no reason why it shouldn't count.




How big is that rear bag?




http://www.triadtactical.com/GA-Precision-Rear-Bag.html



It's turned sideways in the picture.

That is way too large to qualify.


The diameter of a softball is 3.8".



 

Link Posted: 11/5/2014 11:22:55 AM EDT
Jeff, I saw your post in the other thread. The bag I'm using is actually flat. It was approved earlier in the thread as well. It's an accuracy first bag from Larue. Found here.
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Jeff, I saw your post in the other thread. The bag I'm using is actually flat. It was approved earlier in the thread as well. It's an accuracy first bag from Larue. Found here.
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That bag is 8"X5"X2" or 80 cubic inches.





A softball is 3.8" diameter = 4X3.14X3.61 (r2) = 45.34 cubic inches





The Larue bag is 44% larger.





Some folks are DQd for bags smaller than that. I understand that that bag didn't perform any miracle and probably wasn't even tall enough to compensate for the bipod height. But rules are rules.





 
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That bag is 8"X5"X2" or 80 cubic inches.

A softball is 3.8" diameter = 4X3.14X3.61 (r2) = 45.34 cubic inches

The Larue bag is 44% larger.

Some folks are DQd for bags smaller than that. I understand that that bag didn't perform any miracle and probably wasn't even tall enough to compensate for the bipod height. But rules are rules.
 
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Originally Posted By Mike_P:
Jeff, I saw your post in the other thread. The bag I'm using is actually flat. It was approved earlier in the thread as well. It's an accuracy first bag from Larue. Found here.
That bag is 8"X5"X2" or 80 cubic inches.

A softball is 3.8" diameter = 4X3.14X3.61 (r2) = 45.34 cubic inches

The Larue bag is 44% larger.

Some folks are DQd for bags smaller than that. I understand that that bag didn't perform any miracle and probably wasn't even tall enough to compensate for the bipod height. But rules are rules.
 


There is a difference between a bag and a rest. The shooter must have to be in control of it to support the rifle.

There has been a bunch of controversy over the rear bag. I make the final decision on what is a bag and what is a rest.

Many shooters have been fine with that only a few whiners have bitched.


Thanks but I don't need your help.

 
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There is a difference between a bag and a rest. The shooter must have to be in control of it to support the rifle.  There has been a bunch of controversy over the rear bag. I make the final decision on what is a bag and what is a rest.

Many shooters have been fine with that only a few whiners have bitched.


Thanks but I don't need your help.

 
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Originally Posted By JeffinVAB:
Originally Posted By Mike_P:
Jeff, I saw your post in the other thread. The bag I'm using is actually flat. It was approved earlier in the thread as well. It's an accuracy first bag from Larue. Found here.
That bag is 8"X5"X2" or 80 cubic inches.

A softball is 3.8" diameter = 4X3.14X3.61 (r2) = 45.34 cubic inches

The Larue bag is 44% larger.

Some folks are DQd for bags smaller than that. I understand that that bag didn't perform any miracle and probably wasn't even tall enough to compensate for the bipod height. But rules are rules.
 


There is a difference between a bag and a rest. The shooter must have to be in control of it to support the rifle.  There has been a bunch of controversy over the rear bag. I make the final decision on what is a bag and what is a rest.

Many shooters have been fine with that only a few whiners have bitched.


Thanks but I don't need your help.

 



Were you there to watch everybody's?

So this is ok: (8x5x2)
https://www.accuracy1stdg.com/store/itemDetail.cfm?prodID=556
But this is not: (7x5x1.5)
https://www.triadtactical.com/GA-Precision-Rear-Bag.html

You stated these aren't your rules and that you're just following them. However now you're dictating what goes and what doesn't regardless of what the rules say. You're saying that the GAP bag is big enough to allow the rear to be rested down. That's fine as according to the rules, it's too big (52.5 cu in vs  28.7 cu in on the softball). But the accuracy first bag at 80 cu in is THREE TIMES larger than the softball set in the rules. If a rifle is capable of being fully supported by the GAP, it's sure as hell able to be by that bag.

This thread has lost all credibility.

PS. The Volume of a sphere is (4/3)pi(r^3), I think the poster above used the surface area formula by accident.

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Originally Posted By akethan:
There is a difference between a bag and a rest. The shooter must have to be in control of it to support the rifle.



There has been a bunch of controversy over the rear bag. I make the final decision on what is a bag and what is a rest.



Many shooters have been fine with that only a few whiners have bitched.





Thanks but I don't need your help.



 

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Originally Posted By JeffinVAB:


Originally Posted By Mike_P:

Jeff, I saw your post in the other thread. The bag I'm using is actually flat. It was approved earlier in the thread as well. It's an accuracy first bag from Larue. Found here.
That bag is 8"X5"X2" or 80 cubic inches.



A softball is 3.8" diameter = 4X3.14X3.61 (r2) = 45.34 cubic inches



The Larue bag is 44% larger.



Some folks are DQd for bags smaller than that. I understand that that bag didn't perform any miracle and probably wasn't even tall enough to compensate for the bipod height. But rules are rules.

 




There is a difference between a bag and a rest. The shooter must have to be in control of it to support the rifle.



There has been a bunch of controversy over the rear bag. I make the final decision on what is a bag and what is a rest.



Many shooters have been fine with that only a few whiners have bitched.





Thanks but I don't need your help.



 





 
Then fix the rule.  I agree that bag should be allowed, but there's no way it's smaller than a softball, which is what the rule explicitly states.
Link Posted: 11/8/2014 9:40:52 PM EDT
All the bags that have been kicked have been much larger and/or supported the rear of the rifle on their own.

Shoot or don't it's up to you.
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