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11/22/2006 4:30:25 PM EDT
[#1]

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Handy reason for Jake to know the planes.  Could be that they were the only ones who had old enough avionics to survive an EMP???


Military aircraft are usually EMP Hardened.


Electronics can be EMP hardened.  Important .mil ones are.  Some electronics aren't particularly susceptible, like small devices.
11/22/2006 4:30:38 PM EDT
[#2]

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Looks like a few of those fellows need to be hanged, stealing the genny and all.


Yep, looks like the town may be taking on the freebooters.
11/22/2006 4:31:29 PM EDT
[#3]
Ok I have to ask this stupid question....


Did Italy really patrol our skies after 9/11 like he said?

With what and how did they get here? Aircraft carrier?

I apologize I am not up on the Italian military.
11/22/2006 4:31:41 PM EDT
[#4]
Yep. Hangin's.
11/22/2006 4:35:05 PM EDT
[#5]
What rule says the generator is owed to the town?
11/22/2006 4:37:18 PM EDT
[#6]
Gutsy girl!
11/22/2006 4:37:24 PM EDT
[#7]
Just love those mini-14's  To much A-Team here...
11/22/2006 4:38:27 PM EDT
[#8]

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What rule says the generator is owed to the town?


Well if you want to use that logic it belonged to farmer boy and it was stolen from him by force.  Now if he wants to give it to the town...
11/22/2006 4:38:32 PM EDT
[#9]

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What rule says the generator is owed to the town?


exactly. finders keepers.
11/22/2006 4:39:28 PM EDT
[#10]
First Hawkins rifle then Jake's M1 carbine...no sights. What is up with that?
11/22/2006 4:41:01 PM EDT
[#11]

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What rule says the generator is owed to the town?


Well if you want to use that logic it belonged to farmer boy and it was stolen from him by force.  Now if he wants to give it to the town...



That  makes more sense then it automaticly belongs to the town.
11/22/2006 4:41:43 PM EDT
[#12]

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Just love those mini-14's  To much A-Team here...


m1 carbines...
11/22/2006 4:48:30 PM EDT
[#13]
US Chutes/gear, Russian Aircraft, Chinease stuff.  WTF?
11/22/2006 4:49:11 PM EDT
[#14]
I'm not buying into our military is out of the picture to the extent that another military is flying in our skys.
11/22/2006 4:50:37 PM EDT
[#15]
Pie!
11/22/2006 4:50:45 PM EDT
[#16]
Get some big boy.......
11/22/2006 4:57:47 PM EDT
[#17]

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Just love those mini-14's  To much A-Team here...


m1 carbines...



Very Bad ass firearm, illegal here in NJ.

Oh, Gracie dead.
11/22/2006 4:58:07 PM EDT
[#18]
Bye bye Gracie.  Bet the food is gone in the morning!
11/22/2006 5:00:03 PM EDT
[#19]

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Bye bye Gracie.  Bet the food is gone in the morning!


What about alll the rest of her booty?
11/22/2006 5:00:35 PM EDT
[#20]

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US Chutes/gear, Russian Aircraft, Chinease stuff.  WTF?


Well the Chinese are well known for copying Russian Military Equipment.

Or it could be the Middle East against the world?
11/22/2006 5:06:52 PM EDT
[#21]
gracie got pwned!
11/22/2006 5:07:29 PM EDT
[#22]
I'm thinking with the mix of Chinese, russian and U.S. equipment that it's going to turn out that this is some kind of internal military coup with backing from said Chinese/russkies.


this was a pretty good episode BTW.
11/22/2006 5:08:21 PM EDT
[#23]

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US Chutes/gear, Russian Aircraft, Chinease stuff.  WTF?


Well the Chinese are well known for copying Russian Military Equipment.

Or it could be the Middle East against the world?



Perhaps it's a joint effort.  One would hope.


Also, time for some "difinitive" justice for the Gracie murder.  You know to clarify to those that this action will not stand.
11/22/2006 5:09:14 PM EDT
[#24]
OK why wasn't the place they were storing food under guard?!
11/22/2006 5:09:30 PM EDT
[#25]

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I'm not buying into our military is out of the picture to the extent that another military is flying in our skys.


Well they were flying with fighter escort.  Why would someone providing aid need fighter escort?  

IF we were hit in a flow blown nuclear attack our major civilian airports and our military airfields would be taken out.  However, we have carriers that are underway at all times that could pull in their airwings to provide air defense, plus our cruisers with their missle shields. Of course, our fleet could have been taken out...but I seriously doubt any one is capable of doing both a huge nuclear attack and taking out our naval fleet.  

The MIG19 isn't capable of air-to-air refueling either so how the hell did it end up over Kansas?  


Where the hell is NATO?
11/22/2006 5:10:49 PM EDT
[#26]

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Just love those mini-14's  To much A-Team here...


m1 carbines...



Very Bad ass firearm, illegal here in NJ.

Oh, Gracie dead.


Gods, when are we going to get the Second Amendment back?
11/22/2006 5:13:10 PM EDT
[#27]

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What rule says the generator is owed to the town?


exactly. finders keepers.


Sorry Executive Order 10997.  Reauthorized By Bill Klinton 6/6/94 (50th D-day)Under Executive order 12919. Over rides the Finders keepers clause of the Constitution.

The town gets it.
11/22/2006 5:18:36 PM EDT
[#28]

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What rule says the generator is owed to the town?



Who the hell cares?   Town has gennys - Clinic, Bar, probably sheriff's station, some farmers.....  It's the FUEL that counts
11/22/2006 5:20:05 PM EDT
[#29]
Did anyone copy the CW?
11/22/2006 5:24:19 PM EDT
[#30]
Where did all the M1 Carbines come from? Dont recall seeing them in previous episodes, and missed the first half of tonights show
11/22/2006 5:24:53 PM EDT
[#31]
MIG 19 has a combat range of 1,375 miles and it is 7,236.5 miles between Hong Kong and LA.  

The MIGs would have had to fly up north over Alaska and refuel at some point along the way on the ground before being able to reach Kansas even with external drop tanks. Going straight across the Pacific is just a no go for the MIG 19.  

11/22/2006 5:28:25 PM EDT
[#32]
Did anyone notice the corn in the field is still green and it is Thanksgiving?  How many corn fields in Kansas as of today are still green?
11/22/2006 5:28:26 PM EDT
[#33]
Those sure didn't look like Mig 19s
11/22/2006 5:31:20 PM EDT
[#34]
Almost thought those were Mirages
11/22/2006 5:31:59 PM EDT
[#35]

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I'm not buying into our military is out of the picture to the extent that another military is flying in our skys.


Well they were flying with fighter escort.  Why would someone providing aid need fighter escort?  

IF we were hit in a flow blown nuclear attack our major civilian airports and our military airfields would be taken out.  However, we have carriers that are underway at all times that could pull in their airwings to provide air defense, plus our cruisers with their missle shields. Of course, our fleet could have been taken out...but I seriously doubt any one is capable of doing both a huge nuclear attack and taking out our naval fleet.  

The MIG19 isn't capable of air-to-air refueling either so how the hell did it end up over Kansas?  


Where the hell is NATO?


Dude, we are NATO.  We go down like we did in Jericho, NATO will not be there to pick us up.
11/22/2006 5:32:01 PM EDT
[#36]

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Did anyone copy the CW?



The code tonight was:

"IT ALL BEGINS WITH"
11/22/2006 5:32:11 PM EDT
[#37]
The Antonov AN-225 has with maximum fuel a range of 8,700 miles, but with max payload that would be cut down to 2,500 miles. Again the Antonov is not capable of midflight refueling so how the hell did it make to Kansas?  

Either there is a joint effort between China and the United States where we have allowed use of our airbases for refueling or China took an airport somewhere in Alaska or Canada.

 



11/22/2006 5:32:58 PM EDT
[#38]
Thanks for getting me hooked on a TV show guys.  Just what I need, another time sink.  I managed to download and watch every episode over the last 3 days.  

Also I haven't read everything thats been said, but it seems like most people are taking the pessimistic view.  Whats been shown is not outside the realm of an international relief effort which makes a certain amount of sense given the presence of mercenaries.  If things were dire enough for the gov't to resort to mercenaries it seems possible they might also require outside assistance with relief drops over the significant geographic area that is the US.  

In fact, thinking about the current strategic airlift fleet, I'm not entirely certain the US military could run supply drops to virtually the entire country at full capacity.  You're talking running supplies over a huge distributed area using somewhere in the neighborhood of 700 aircraft, some of which are more troop transports and not  capable of airdropping cargo.  Even adding in a further 1000 or so tactical class airlifters such as the C-130 I'm not sure they could do it.  The US military is an awesome machine but they don't have infinite resources and capability.    

Even the fliers in the supplies fits, since I seem to remember us doing a similar thing in places like Somalia.

So it could be that the Russians/Chinese are helping run supplies in the west and the Europeans are helping in the east.  But thats just my take, I could easily be wrong.    
11/22/2006 5:34:58 PM EDT
[#39]
I agree with DR.  IIRC, the planes looked like a delta wing configuration.
11/22/2006 5:35:08 PM EDT
[#40]

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Dude, we are NATO.  We go down like we did in Jericho, NATO will not be there to pick us up.


Well, I would tend to think you're right on that in that most NATO nations depend on the United States Airforce for their heavy lift capability.  

My guess is that if any enemy was smart enough to hit the United States they did some kind of damage to our NATO friends and our bases overseas.  

11/22/2006 5:38:54 PM EDT
[#41]
Oh and Hawkins is the only guy in town that knows how to hook up that large generator?  So, this whole town would be dead if not for Hawkins...must have been the dumbest town in America before Hawkins moved there.  
11/22/2006 5:41:32 PM EDT
[#42]
Oh yeah...that leader of the idiots out on the "compound"  should have killed that kid to make an example out of him and had said something like "I really want to be in charge...anyone got a problem with that?"

11/22/2006 5:43:26 PM EDT
[#43]
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I agree with DR.  IIRC, the planes looked like a delta wing configuration.


Call it a MIG-21/J-7 instead of a MIG-19 then.  The Chinese were still developing new variations of the MIG-21 as of the mid 1980's.  They've also produced the J-8 which is essentially an enlarged twin engine MIG-21.
11/22/2006 5:46:38 PM EDT
[#44]
Awww man... I'd wanted to see the show. Missed it.

I'm going to have to check them out online.
11/22/2006 5:51:19 PM EDT
[#45]
CORN PORN Farm boy got some! First election should be to replace the county sheriff! The Sheriffs reserve would be the towns force. Notice how they are avoiding the word MILITIA. Notice how most of the bad guys have assualt weapons. Plus shady folks seem to be the ones pushing private property rights.
Gracies greed got her killed. Cows graze while hogs go to slaughter.
Town all ready had a genn Set ! Remember the gasoline goiing in the diesel oil spout! Not real smart. Still best show yet for TV
11/22/2006 6:09:50 PM EDT
[#46]

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I agree with DR.  IIRC, the planes looked like a delta wing configuration.


Call it a MIG-21/J-7 instead of a MIG-19 then.  The Chinese were still developing new variations of the MIG-21 as of the mid 1980's.  They've also produced the J-8 which is essentially an enlarged twin engine MIG-21.


To me they looked like MIG-29s
11/22/2006 6:11:41 PM EDT
[#47]

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Looks like a few of those fellows need to be hanged, stealing the genny and all.


Exactly, he claims private property rights but stole the generator off of someone elses private property.

Bob
11/22/2006 6:11:46 PM EDT
[#48]

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CORN PORN Farm boy got some! First election should be to replace the county sheriff! The Sheriffs reserve would be the towns force. Notice how they are avoiding the word MILITIA. Notice how most of the bad guys have assualt weapons. Plus shady folks seem to be the ones pushing private property rights.
Gracies greed got her killed. Cows graze while hogs go to slaughter.
Town all ready had a genn Set ! Remember the gasoline goiing in the diesel oil spout! Not real smart. Still best show yet for TV


Gotta keep it P.C. for the sheep.  Also notice the towns primary "assault weapon" is the M1 carbine.  Which coincidentally tends to get excluded from bans.
11/22/2006 6:13:08 PM EDT
[#49]

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CORN PORN Farm boy got some! First election should be to replace the county sheriff! The Sheriffs reserve would be the towns force. Notice how they are avoiding the word MILITIA. Notice how most of the bad guys have assualt weapons. Plus shady folks seem to be the ones pushing private property rights.
Gracies greed got her killed. Cows graze while hogs go to slaughter.
Town all ready had a genn Set ! Remember the gasoline goiing in the diesel oil spout! Not real smart. Still best show yet for TV


The sherrif died in the first episode.  They are just the deputies.

The town's genny was fried with the EMP.
11/22/2006 6:16:24 PM EDT
[#50]
Someone last week had an SP-1

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