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Posted: 7/15/2008 5:05:41 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/15/2008 5:12:28 PM EDT by StagArms]
Link Posted: 7/15/2008 5:10:18 PM EDT
1500 rounds of rifle ammo!
Link Posted: 7/16/2008 10:05:51 AM EDT
$400 to enter the class, plus $750 worth of ammo.

Insane.
Link Posted: 7/16/2008 10:51:57 AM EDT
Anyone ever taken a class with David Kenik? No disrespect to him, and I certainly don't know everything/everyone, but I've never heard of him.
Link Posted: 7/16/2008 12:24:54 PM EDT
I am definatly interested as long as it is a top tier class and not a basic entry level class..

Any one know who this guy is??

Anyone going??
Link Posted: 7/16/2008 3:29:43 PM EDT
You can't shoot 1800 rds of ammo in 2 days and expect to be doing anything more then blasting ammunition down range.

Just my worthless opinion.
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 7:23:12 PM EDT

Originally Posted By RealFastV6:
You can't shoot 1800 rds of ammo in 2 days and expect to be doing anything more then blasting ammunition down range.

Just my worthless opinion.


Makes sense to me......
During the week I spent at the Sig Arms Academy for the Advanced Semi-Auto Pistol Instructor Course, I only went through 450rds. The course required 1000.
The Instructors spent more time actually teaching.
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 7:55:40 PM EDT
"Shooting" is not necessarily learning. Shooting is verification of your technique, which you must learn. Therefore in many classes round count is inversely proportional to the amount learned.
Link Posted: 7/19/2008 5:31:55 AM EDT
Some of the best training I have ever done only resulted in two boxes of ammunition fired down range.
Link Posted: 7/19/2008 6:18:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/19/2008 6:22:41 PM EDT by TimJ]
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 2:23:27 AM EDT

Originally Posted By TimJ:

Originally Posted By fst96ss:

Originally Posted By RealFastV6:
You can't shoot 1800 rds of ammo in 2 days and expect to be doing anything more then blasting ammunition down range.

Just my worthless opinion.


Makes sense to me......
During the week I spent at the Sig Arms Academy for the Advanced Semi-Auto Pistol Instructor Course, I only went through 450rds. The course required 1000.
The Instructors spent more time actually teaching.


Based on the course name it sounds like you were be trained as a trainer. I'd expect a lower round count for that kind of course.....also, you shot 45% of what you were told the round count for the course was. That'd be less than 700 rounds if this course worked that way. That's a little more than a weekend Appleseed, which had a lot of down time and was excellent training. It'd be fair to give them as much leeway as SigArms is getting.

OTOH, 1,500 rounds in two days is a lot. I'd be interested in more course info....

(participant mode, not moderator mode here, BTW)


I'm not knocking the course for requiring that much ammo, I was just saying that in my experience, the more in-depth the instruction, the less ammo you tend to use.
Not saying that you can't get quality training AND send a ton of lead down-range......We all know how much fun that can be.
Link Posted: 7/25/2008 7:28:03 AM EDT
Has anyone sighned up for this class??

Is there any more info about the ciriculum or the instructor??

Thanks
Link Posted: 7/26/2008 10:17:28 AM EDT

Originally Posted By skeeters65:
Has anyone sighned up for this class??

Is there any more info about the ciriculum or the instructor??

Thanks



His website is www.armedresponsetraining.com/. Since I know very little about Kenik as an instructor and his class, I chose to do the September Urban Rifle class with Weaponcraft instead. I am definitely interested to hear people's feedback from the August Stag class.
Link Posted: 7/28/2008 10:45:08 AM EDT
Too bad all my guns are illegal there..


Link Posted: 7/28/2008 11:34:30 AM EDT
If I go to the class I would let you use one of my pre-ban lowers.. Just bring your upper..

When were you thinking about going??
Link Posted: 7/29/2008 10:19:11 AM EDT

Originally Posted By skeeters65:
If I go to the class I would let you use one of my pre-ban lowers.. Just bring your upper..

When were you thinking about going??



I was being more of smart ass more than anything. It's just shame that folks like me who'd like to particapate in these things really can't because of messed up laws. Thanks for your offer, it is appreciated.
Link Posted: 7/29/2008 12:41:13 PM EDT
Anytime.. I have a few and I have just about every good stock out there so I could set it up how you need..
Link Posted: 8/5/2008 2:25:30 PM EDT
Link Posted: 8/5/2008 3:44:07 PM EDT
I'm just curious how the October class will run with a 3 gun match scheduled for the same dates at the same range.

www.matchreg.com/
Link Posted: 8/24/2008 3:17:57 AM EDT
Did anybody go to this? Haven't seen any feedback on the class.
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