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Posted: 9/6/2018 3:35:24 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/6/2018 3:35:24 PM EST by Lancelot]
Hey all,

Sorry if this is the wrong place for this question! One of my friends is moving to the Socialist Republic of California and has a small collection of AR15s. He has a NIB LE6920 which he's always just held on to.

If he decides to store the rifle (long term, cosmoline, etc.) with no stock, muzzle device, pistol grip, magazine, or really anything besides the shell of the rifle with a BCG, is it considered an assault weapon needing to be registered? I'd imagine if that was the case he sure as hell wouldn't want to have any spare "assault weapon" furniture laying around.

No telescoping stock, no dreaded "flash hider", no pistol grip, still an "assault weapon?"
Link Posted: 9/5/2018 6:41:57 PM EST
I'm no expert but I believe if it has a detachable magazine it is required to be registered as an assault weapon. Removing the stock, grip and muzzle brake still leaves a detachable magazine.
Link Posted: 9/5/2018 6:45:45 PM EST
He's going to need an AR maglock or something like it. The assault weapon registry is closed already so he won't be able to do a bullet button. No need for him to take any of the furniture or parts off if he does the AR mag lock
Link Posted: 9/5/2018 7:57:18 PM EST
I believe the 6920 is banned by name in California, so he’d need a new stripped lower in addition to other compliance modifications.

I’d check with the experts on CalGuns.net.
Link Posted: 9/5/2018 8:05:04 PM EST
I can keep it for him , safe and out of that state
Link Posted: 9/5/2018 8:34:53 PM EST
how is the hell has no group successfully challenged these laws?????
Link Posted: 9/5/2018 9:19:38 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/5/2018 11:01:01 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/5/2018 11:02:39 PM EST by endermend]
Just split the upper and lower apart. They aren't considered an assault rifle because for all they know the upper might be used on a mag locked lower or the lower might be used with a .22lr upper.

I concur I'm pretty sure the 6920 is banned by name. The calguns featureless flow chart has a list of the guns banned by name. I'm pretty damn certain Colt SP and LE series are on that list.
Link Posted: 9/6/2018 1:49:53 AM EST
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Originally Posted By myhatinthering:
how is the hell has no group successfully challenged these laws?????
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We are talking about the state that banned plastic straws and protects illegals...
Link Posted: 9/6/2018 5:29:28 AM EST
Banned by name

If it wasn’t he could separate the upper and lower, and take the grip off the lower and be fine.
Link Posted: 9/6/2018 5:38:21 AM EST
This question should go to GD side.

With that said, the same 'hypothetical' question rings true for me. If I have to move to that $h_t hole due to family reason I would probably switch over to semi auto shotgun. Yes capacity will be limited but 12 ga 00 and 1 oz slugs would serve just fine since I can load shells quicker than most average 'hunters'.
Link Posted: 9/6/2018 7:30:53 PM EST
If it is a Colt and it is stamped as an "AR-15", it is banned from the State no matter the model number.

Of course, lower receivers are very inexpensive right now. You could bring the parts and store just the lower receiver (smaller, less risk during storage).
Link Posted: 9/6/2018 9:22:18 PM EST
Check the list to see if it is banned by name. If it is not, easiest way to store it would be to install a 22 conversion for it. Rimfire is not regulated.
Link Posted: 9/7/2018 12:28:46 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/7/2018 12:30:15 PM EST by Trollslayer]
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Originally Posted By NorCalRT:
Check the list to see if it is banned by name. If it is not, easiest way to store it would be to install a 22 conversion for it. Rimfire is not regulated.
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I did already check the list for the guy before making my post. What it says is, "COLT AR-15 (all)".

Rimfire magazines are also restricted to ten rounds or less, so be careful which magazines come with your rimfire conversion kit.
Link Posted: 9/7/2018 4:22:34 PM EST
If he really REALLY cares, tell him to put it in a storage unit across state lines or store it with a friend or loved one.

He has my sympathies.
Link Posted: 9/8/2018 10:08:12 AM EST
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Originally Posted By bigjunk1:
I'm no expert but I believe if it has a detachable magazine it is required to be registered as an assault weapon. Removing the stock, grip and muzzle brake still leaves a detachable magazine.
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You're right. You are not an expert. Read up.
Link Posted: 9/11/2018 5:41:33 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/11/2018 5:42:44 PM EST by Trollslayer]
This quote shows the Colt 6920 is an assault weapon and cannot be imported: California Regulations

"§ 5499. California Penal Code Section 30510, Subdivision (f), Assault Weapons List. (a) Rifles ... Colt Law Enforcement (6920)

This database is current through 8/31/18 Register 2018, No. 35
11 CCR § 5499, 11 CA ADC § 5499"
Link Posted: 9/12/2018 12:53:45 PM EST
There are guns banned by name, others by features.

If it is banned by name, the receiver can't be brought in.

If it isn't banned by name, it can be brought in, but it can't have any "evil features" if it has a detachable magazine. Evil features includes flashhiders, folding/collapsing stocks, and pistol grips.

So for an AR15 rifle that ISN'T banned by name, removing the flash hider, giving it a fixed stock and giving it a fingrip (or equivalent) so that it doesn't meet the definition of "pistol grip" will render the rifle legal. No forward pistol grips either.
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