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Posted: 4/19/2017 7:09:00 PM EDT
its big
not exactly fast (cruise speed of 441 mph)
It certainly cant hide from radar


The only thing it can really do is carry a nuke or cruise missle


it wouldnt really prove useful unless you were trying to attack a 3rd world country

Any modern country would pick it up on radar far before it had a chance to actually do anything.
Link Posted: 4/19/2017 7:09:53 PM EDT
It kills by noise.
Link Posted: 4/19/2017 7:10:54 PM EDT
Putin flies one on the weekends.
Link Posted: 4/19/2017 7:11:25 PM EDT
Cant the same things be said about the B52?
Link Posted: 4/19/2017 7:11:32 PM EDT
I have pondered the same.

It is very obsolete, especially against modern countries.

In for answers.
Link Posted: 4/19/2017 7:12:15 PM EDT
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The only thing it can really do is carry a nuke or cruise missle
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There you go.

It's also old.  Not exactly the latest and greatest.  The Russians love their cruise missiles.

It's also used as a maritime patrol craft I believe.
Link Posted: 4/19/2017 7:12:20 PM EDT
9400 mile unrefueled range.....
Link Posted: 4/19/2017 7:12:58 PM EDT
What's the point of the b-52?
Link Posted: 4/19/2017 7:13:38 PM EDT
It is the Russian 'equivalent' to the B-52.

You may not know that Boeing originally designed the B-52 as a turboprop bomber...



Large aircraft with a rugged air frame allowing lots of modifications and upgrades over a long career.

The have been used as the basis of Airliner, A.S.W., and AEW&C. not to mention dropping the most powerful Thermonuclear weapon EVER... TSAR Bomb!
Link Posted: 4/19/2017 7:14:02 PM EDT
It's a long range maritime patrol aircraft. Think P8 with counter rotating propellers.
Link Posted: 4/19/2017 7:14:33 PM EDT
I can deliver the Kitchen Sink.
Link Posted: 4/19/2017 7:15:25 PM EDT
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It runs on diesel??
Link Posted: 4/19/2017 7:15:32 PM EDT
Growing up in the cold war I a fascinated by this pic

Bigly cruise missle



And its rear turret looked cool

Link Posted: 4/19/2017 7:15:59 PM EDT
Obviously, they're trolling with it, seems to work.
Link Posted: 4/19/2017 7:16:29 PM EDT
A cheap old terd that ties up a trillion dollar f22 or three sounds pretty useful to me.
Link Posted: 4/19/2017 7:16:54 PM EDT
Those hearing issues are not going to create themselves
Link Posted: 4/19/2017 7:17:33 PM EDT
Launch massive salvos of AS-4 ASCMs at carrier battle groups from long range to overwhelm defenses. 
Link Posted: 4/19/2017 7:17:41 PM EDT
In a nuclear war scenario the bombers fly to failsafe, which is obvious and slow.  It's kind of a "last invitation to the let's work this out table".   The missiles would do the first strike, then the bombers, with a final cleanup by some boomers, ...just to make sure doomsday stays doomsday.

But the TU-95 is still a high flyer and heavy lifter, and would be useful, just like the B-52 is useful, in the kinds of shitty little wars we've had for the last 72 years.
Link Posted: 4/19/2017 7:18:33 PM EDT
I'd imagine its ECM suite isn't bad for all of those reasons

its the Red version of our BUFF.

They do the same thing we do with the BUFF: conventional bombing in areas with air superiority established, cruise missile launching, and maritime patrol---yes we've used the BUFF to find ships

a good chunk of their Bears are actually newer than our BUFFs. Last BUFF rolled off the assembly line in June 1962 and I've read that the newest Bears are early 1980s vintage

as a BUFF crew chief who knows what its capable of I don't underestimate what either it or the Bear is capable of


2015-2016 time frame the Russian Air Force used them to drop conventional cruise missiles on ISIS and Syrian rebels, so they still are very capable
Link Posted: 4/19/2017 7:19:01 PM EDT
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Growing up in the cold war I a fascinated by this pic

Bigly cruise missle

http://www.ausairpower.net/VVS/Kh-20-Kangaroo-Bear-C-2S.jpg

And its rear turret looked cool

http://i.imgur.com/JhbFKym.jpg
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Damn, that's a ton of rivets in that second pic! I wonder how many million of them go into one full aircraft?
Link Posted: 4/19/2017 7:19:11 PM EDT
The US is an important country and maintains a fleet of big obsolete bombers.


Russia (strongly wants you to believe) is an important country, therefore maintains a fleet of big even obsoleter bombers too.

It's four-dimensional Putin poker and you best keep up.
Link Posted: 4/19/2017 7:19:40 PM EDT
The TU-95 was designed to launch nuclear tipped cruise missiles to targets that were missed after the main nuclear strike. Meaning it was going to be used as sort of a mop of weapon.
Link Posted: 4/19/2017 7:22:35 PM EDT
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Damn, that's a ton of rivets in that second pic! I wonder how many million of them go into one full aircraft?
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I like how they are like "curved glass is harddddd  FLAT PANES EVERYTHING"
Link Posted: 4/19/2017 7:22:42 PM EDT
Trololo plane.
Link Posted: 4/19/2017 7:24:58 PM EDT
To drop bombs.
Link Posted: 4/19/2017 7:44:59 PM EDT
Like many Russian tools, it is as capable as it needs to be for them to do the jobs they want it to do.

It isn't designed to be wiz bang look how cool it is...it is designed to get specific jobs done.  

It also has uber long range and a large internal volume/weight that it can carry.
Link Posted: 4/19/2017 7:45:20 PM EDT
this is another reason why they have the Bear


similar to why we have the BUFF
Link Posted: 4/19/2017 7:52:07 PM EDT
It's probably cheap to operate and gets them press time for the harassment.
Link Posted: 4/19/2017 7:54:02 PM EDT
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I can deliver the Kitchen Sink.
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Yes, yes it can.

Kh-22
Link Posted: 4/19/2017 7:57:14 PM EDT
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its big
not exactly fast (cruise speed of 441 mph)
It certainly cant hide from radar

The only thing it can really do is carry a nuke or cruise missle

it wouldnt really prove useful unless you were trying to attack a 3rd world country

Any modern country would pick it up on radar far before it had a chance to actually do anything.
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Answered your own question
Link Posted: 4/19/2017 7:58:01 PM EDT
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Seemed effective in Harpoon, anyway.
Link Posted: 4/19/2017 7:58:22 PM EDT
Link Posted: 4/19/2017 8:02:36 PM EDT
One of the most efficient engines, of its type, ever made.  It has range, efficiency, payload and low cost.
It can loiter for years at a fraction of the cost of the blackjack bombers.
Link Posted: 4/19/2017 8:03:08 PM EDT
Trolling for F22 photo ops.
Link Posted: 4/19/2017 8:05:14 PM EDT
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Cant the same things be said about the B52?
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That's pretty much what it is.....a Russian B52.  They could use it for the same things we use ours for.    
Link Posted: 4/19/2017 8:05:34 PM EDT
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It runs on diesel??
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Fucking autocorrect. ...fixed
Link Posted: 4/19/2017 8:13:29 PM EDT
Seems like an effective bomb truck, considering when it was designed.  It's not that big when you get up close.

I'd like to see the innards of the prop gearbox.













Link Posted: 4/19/2017 8:13:32 PM EDT
Link Posted: 4/19/2017 8:14:07 PM EDT
If I am reading this correctly the range without ordnance is greater for the B-52 than the TU-95.  

They look very similar actually. The climb rate of the B-52 kicks its ass though.


TU-95    General characteristics

)
Empty weight: 90,000 kg (198,000 lb)
Loaded weight: 171,000 kg (376,200 lb)
Max. takeoff weight: 188,000 kg (414,500 lb)
Powerplant: 4 × Kuznetsov NK-12M turboprops, 11,000 kW (14,800 shp)[45] each
Performance

Maximum speed: 830 km/h (516 mph)[4]
Range: 15,000 km (8,100 nmi, 9,400 mi) unrefueled
Service ceiling: 13,716 m (45,000 ft)
Rate of climb: 10 m/s (2,000 ft/min)
Wing loading: 606 kg/m² (124 lb/ft²)
Power/mass: 235 W/kg (0.143 hp/lb)


B-52    
General characteristics


Empty weight: 185,000 lb (83,250 kg)
Loaded weight: 265,000 lb (120,000 kg)
Max. takeoff weight: 488,000 lb (220,000 kg)
Fuel capacity: 47,975 U.S. gal (39,948 imp gal; 181,610 L)
Zero-lift drag coefficient: 0.0119 (estimated)
Drag area: 47.60 sq?ft (4.42 m²)
Aspect ratio: 8.56
Powerplant: 8 × Pratt & Whitney TF33-P-3/103 turbofans, 17,000 lbf (76 kN) each
Performance

Maximum speed: 560 kn (650 mph, 1,047 km/h)
Cruise speed: 442 kn (525 mph, 844 km/h)
Combat radius: 4,480 mi (3,890 nmi, 7,210 km)
Ferry range: 10,145 mi (8,764 nmi, 16,232 km)
Service ceiling: 50,000 ft (15,000 m)
Rate of climb: 6,270 ft/min (31.85 m/s)
Wing loading: 120 lb/ft² (586 kg/m²)
Thrust/weight: 0.31
Lift-to-drag ratio: 21.5 (estimated)
Link Posted: 4/19/2017 8:23:33 PM EDT
Its job is to sound badass


It does its job:


Link Posted: 4/19/2017 8:43:48 PM EDT
These large bombers could be used to release swarms of drones that don't have the range themselves.
Link Posted: 4/19/2017 8:51:03 PM EDT
It's probably the most useful combat aircraft the broke-ass Russians can actually afford to operate on a semi-regular basis.
Link Posted: 4/19/2017 8:55:20 PM EDT
Seems to me it would be an effective long range scouting plane to engage carrier groups, notifies the fast movers. Seems to me it would also be an effective cruise missile carrier to engage carrier and convoy groups heading to Europe in WWIII.

I bet it could be used quite effectively if properly planned for. Red Storm Rising sure made it seem plausible.
Link Posted: 4/19/2017 8:59:25 PM EDT
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All it has to do is find the fleet.

Then come the backfires.
Link Posted: 4/19/2017 9:02:29 PM EDT
"If it ain't broke, don't fix it"..........


those supersonic , contra-rotating prop blades have an interesting effect on its signature as well......
Link Posted: 4/19/2017 9:03:32 PM EDT
It's very versatile, cheaply operated, with some great specs previously mentioned.  

and RHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR.

Posted on another forum ear protection is pretty much negated by the noise. 
Link Posted: 4/19/2017 9:03:49 PM EDT
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he throws it around like a styrofoam glider.
Link Posted: 4/19/2017 9:05:49 PM EDT
Seems like it's still a great bomb-truck if used appropriately.
Link Posted: 4/19/2017 9:06:25 PM EDT
The point?  Another means of delivering love to America.
Link Posted: 4/19/2017 9:14:31 PM EDT
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I'd like to see the innards of the prop gearbox.
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The innards were probably scattered around for inspection after this...

Link Posted: 4/19/2017 9:20:51 PM EDT
I'm a BIG fan of U.S. Bomber power!!! BONE, BUFF and SPIRIT.... But I kinda have a soft spot for these... Would be cool if we captured one and called it our own... Wonder if one of those Bombers have ever landed in our Airbases during friendlier times?
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