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Posted: 4/19/2017 9:27:50 PM EDT
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I'm a BIG fan of U.S. Bomber power!!! BONE, BUFF and SPIRIT.... But I kinda have a soft spot for these... Would be cool if we captured one and called it our own... Wonder if one of those Bombers have ever landed in our Airbases during friendlier times? I'm posting from my phone or else I'd look it up and link it. |
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Posted: 4/19/2017 9:31:14 PM EDT
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All it has to do is find the fleet. Then come the backfires. |
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Posted: 4/19/2017 9:32:56 PM EDT
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There's a picture out there of a B-52 and one sitting beside each other on the ramp at an airbase. I'm posting from my phone or else I'd look it up and link it. 
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Posted: 4/19/2017 9:34:34 PM EDT
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I'm a BIG fan of U.S. Bomber power!!! BONE, BUFF and SPIRIT.... But I kinda have a soft spot for these... Would be cool if we captured one and called it our own... Wonder if one of those Bombers have ever landed in our Airbases during friendlier times? 
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Posted: 4/19/2017 9:35:26 PM EDT
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There's a picture out there of a B-52 and one sitting beside each other on the ramp at an airbase. I'm posting from my phone or else I'd look it up and link it. the BUFF parked next to them was a Minot BUFF |
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Posted: 4/19/2017 9:38:11 PM EDT
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Barksdale AFB LA 1992 the BUFF parked next to them was a Minot BUFF I'm headed to Barksdale for their airshow in two weeks. I'm pretty excited to see some BUFFs in the air 
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Posted: 4/19/2017 9:40:11 PM EDT
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"If it ain't broke, don't fix it".......... those supersonic , contra-rotating prop blades have an interesting effect on its signature as well...... and you know if the russians time out an airframe, its toast! |
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Posted: 4/19/2017 9:40:15 PM EDT
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I think it's a cool plane. I'd love to take a close up look at one.
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Posted: 4/19/2017 9:44:19 PM EDT
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It runs on diesel?? |
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Posted: 4/19/2017 9:45:51 PM EDT
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Launch massive salvos of AS-4 ASCMs at carrier battle groups from long range to overwhelm defenses. |
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Posted: 4/19/2017 9:46:52 PM EDT
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... outdated, legacy political doctrine - much like our continued deployment of the B-52
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Posted: 4/19/2017 9:54:39 PM EDT
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In July 2010, two Tu-95MS Bear-H strategic bomber aircraft created a new flight duration record of 40 hours by patrolling over three oceans. |
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Posted: 4/19/2017 9:58:34 PM EDT
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I have pondered the same. It is very obsolete, especially against modern countries. In for answers. Thats the big thing now, stand off weapons like cruise missiles that have very long ranges and are pretty smart on their own. ANY bomber have such a long service life is a very successful design and the TU-95 is no exception. It has a range of over 9,000 miles and can be refueled in flight. It really shines as a maritime aircraft due to its extremely long loiter times and ranges. And it carries a dangerous ASM. Think of it as a big fat missile carrier. Like the B52 it has a rotary missile launcher inside and carrys even more on its wings, including the kh series of cruise missiles that are either conventional or have nuclear warheads. Any 500 mph bomber with that kind of range that can carry 14 cruise missiles that have a range of 1,300 mi is no "relic" from the past. |
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Posted: 4/19/2017 10:11:44 PM EDT
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Like the B52 its big, has a long range, and caries a huge load of stand off weapons. Thats the big thing now, stand off weapons like cruise missiles that have very long ranges and are pretty smart on their own. ANY bomber have such a long service life is a very successful design and the TU-95 is no exception. It has a range of over 9,000 miles and can be refueled in flight. It really shines as a maritime aircraft due to its extremely long loiter times and ranges. And it carries a dangerous ASM. Think of it as a big fat missile carrier. Like the B52 it has a rotary missile launcher inside and carrys even more on its wings, including the kh series of cruise missiles that are either conventional or have nuclear warheads. Any 500 mph bomber with that kind of range that can carry 14 cruise missiles that have a range of 1,300 mi is no "relic" from the past. |
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Posted: 4/19/2017 10:11:58 PM EDT
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Target practice
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Posted: 4/19/2017 10:12:45 PM EDT
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If I am reading this correctly the range without ordnance is greater for the B-52 than the TU-95. They look very similar actually. The climb rate of the B-52 kicks its ass though. TU-95 General characteristics ) Empty weight: 90,000 kg (198,000 lb) Loaded weight: 171,000 kg (376,200 lb) Max. takeoff weight: 188,000 kg (414,500 lb) Powerplant: 4 × Kuznetsov NK-12M turboprops, 11,000 kW (14,800 shp)[45] each Performance Maximum speed: 830 km/h (516 mph)[4] Range: 15,000 km (8,100 nmi, 9,400 mi) unrefueled Service ceiling: 13,716 m (45,000 ft) Rate of climb: 10 m/s (2,000 ft/min) Wing loading: 606 kg/m² (124 lb/ft²) Power/mass: 235 W/kg (0.143 hp/lb) B-52 General characteristics Empty weight: 185,000 lb (83,250 kg) Loaded weight: 265,000 lb (120,000 kg) Max. takeoff weight: 488,000 lb (220,000 kg) Fuel capacity: 47,975 U.S. gal (39,948 imp gal; 181,610 L) Zero-lift drag coefficient: 0.0119 (estimated) Drag area: 47.60 sq?ft (4.42 m²) Aspect ratio: 8.56 Powerplant: 8 × Pratt & Whitney TF33-P-3/103 turbofans, 17,000 lbf (76 kN) each Performance Maximum speed: 560 kn (650 mph, 1,047 km/h) Cruise speed: 442 kn (525 mph, 844 km/h) Combat radius: 4,480 mi (3,890 nmi, 7,210 km) Ferry range: 10,145 mi (8,764 nmi, 16,232 km) Service ceiling: 50,000 ft (15,000 m) Rate of climb: 6,270 ft/min (31.85 m/s) Wing loading: 120 lb/ft² (586 kg/m²) Thrust/weight: 0.31 Lift-to-drag ratio: 21.5 (estimated) |
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Posted: 4/19/2017 10:20:55 PM EDT
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It kills by noise. |
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Posted: 4/19/2017 10:22:49 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/19/2017 10:31:22 PM EDT
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But if I remember correctly, can't the TU 95 operate in and out of a grass airstrip? At Red Flag, Indian SU-30's had trouble with sortie rates because their operating doctrine kept their separation time between takeoffs at about 3 or 4 times what the US does. US commanders and pilots helped them reduce it, but the Indians told them their engines were highly susceptible to FOD, and that was why they did it. Let me know if anyone finds a pic of a Bear operating from a grass strip. I'll be surprised to see it, and even more so to see a Mig 29 doing it. |
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Posted: 4/19/2017 10:33:14 PM EDT
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A bomber is for bombing. Different mission than a fighter, interceptor, or surveillance aircraft.
They would use cruise missiles to launch to targets out 500 to 1,800 miles. The bomber could stay far away from the border of another country. |
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Posted: 4/19/2017 10:39:18 PM EDT
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I am not sure I could stand sitting in either aircraft for close to 10k miles, or even longer! I might actually go crazy
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Posted: 4/19/2017 10:44:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryGot to show that clip to my dad. He used to love the sound of the B-36 (out of Carswell iirc). He said the Tu-95 sounds a lot like the old B-36s.
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Posted: 4/19/2017 10:47:01 PM EDT
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whats the point of the TU-95 bomber |
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Posted: 4/19/2017 10:47:20 PM EDT
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There's a picture out there of a B-52 and one sitting beside each other on the ramp at an airbase. I'm posting from my phone or else I'd look it up and link it.  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/19/2017 10:54:07 PM EDT
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I think it has the same diameter fuselage as the TU-4 bomber, which is a direct copy of the B-29.
So, it might have the same diameter fuselage as the B-29. No sure, though. |
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Posted: 4/19/2017 11:12:25 PM EDT
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I think it has the same diameter fuselage as the TU-4 bomber, which is a direct copy of the B-29. So, it might have the same diameter fuselage as the B-29. No sure, though. |
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Posted: 4/20/2017 1:37:43 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/20/2017 1:43:18 AM EDT
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They've paid my AO a visit twice this week.
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Posted: 4/20/2017 1:44:02 AM EDT
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Previous intercept.... https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/160773/A4AEFB19-AD21-4E56-9B86-9027CFD024E8-7333-00000C2F0B15965C-191282.JPG I wonder if we have any USAF or USN father/son pilot duos that have run an intercept on the same Bear? |
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Posted: 4/20/2017 2:03:17 AM EDT
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Launch massive salvos of AS-4 ASCMs at carrier battle groups from long range to overwhelm defenses. |
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Posted: 4/20/2017 2:53:42 AM EDT
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The point is also k own as the nose.
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Posted: 4/20/2017 3:02:09 AM EDT
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There's a picture out there of a B-52 and one sitting beside each other on the ramp at an airbase. I'm posting from my phone or else I'd look it up and link it. |
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Posted: 4/20/2017 3:03:06 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/20/2017 3:03:43 AM EDT
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Seems to me it would be an effective long range scouting plane to engage carrier groups, notifies the fast movers. Seems to me it would also be an effective cruise missile carrier to engage carrier and convoy groups heading to Europe in WWIII. I bet it could be used quite effectively if properly planned for. Red Storm Rising sure made it seem plausible. As long as it's properly done. |
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Posted: 4/20/2017 3:04:11 AM EDT
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Barksdale AFB LA 1992 the BUFF parked next to them was a Minot BUFF 
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Posted: 4/20/2017 3:06:11 AM EDT
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... outdated, legacy political doctrine - much like our continued deployment of the B-52 
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Posted: 4/20/2017 3:10:12 AM EDT
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That's it. I'm headed to Barksdale for their airshow in two weeks. I'm pretty excited to see some BUFFs in the air
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Posted: 4/20/2017 3:28:53 AM EDT
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It's shiny and keeps the RAF mildly distracted off the Scottish coast
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Posted: 4/20/2017 4:37:31 AM EDT
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You can use bombers to send a message that ICBMs can't. You are pissed at someone or want to let them know you are still a power buzz them with some bombers or have one fly toward their airspace until they escort you away. You can also load them up for bear send them in the air as a precaution then call them home when it doesn't go hot. You can't fire off a ICBM and then go just kidding.
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Posted: 4/20/2017 8:40:55 PM EDT
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Got to show that clip to my dad. He used to love the sound of the B-36 (out of Carswell iirc). He said the Tu-95 sounds a lot like the old B-36s. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 4/20/2017 8:48:12 PM EDT
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Target practice for the F-22 Raptor...
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Posted: 4/20/2017 8:56:11 PM EDT
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I think it has the same diameter fuselage as the TU-4 bomber, which is a direct copy of the B-29. So, it might have the same diameter fuselage as the B-29. No sure, though. |
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Posted: 4/20/2017 8:58:31 PM EDT
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Hey Buddy.... Heading out there meself to check out some live BUFF Porn! Meet you at the beer tent... First ones on me! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That's it. I'm headed to Barksdale for their airshow in two weeks. I'm pretty excited to see some BUFFs in the air |
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Posted: 4/20/2017 9:00:15 PM EDT
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Last BUFF rolled off the assembly line in June 1962 and I've read that the newest Bears are early 1980s vintage I'd still bet the build quality of a 60's -52 is light years ahead of any 80's built Commie stuff. |
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Posted: 4/20/2017 9:44:38 PM EDT
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I think it has the same diameter fuselage as the TU-4 bomber, which is a direct copy of the B-29. So, it might have the same diameter fuselage as the B-29. No sure, though. |
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Posted: 4/20/2017 9:48:17 PM EDT
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It's shiny and keeps the RAF mildly distracted off the Scottish coast Oh, that's right... |
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Posted: 4/20/2017 9:54:23 PM EDT
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The US is an important country and maintains a fleet of big obsolete bombers. Russia (strongly wants you to believe) is an important country, therefore maintains a fleet of big even obsoleter bombers too. It's four-dimensional Putin poker and you best keep up. Not because it's the best, but because it serves a strategic legal purpose. |
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