we were talking and he was lamming bush. he was pro-gore. he liked rage against.. all those activist guys, he had the big hair afro, (white guy) he thought he could change the world by speaking out, and protesting, you know the type... his argument against bush was that 1 out of every 3 black guys is involved in the criminal system in some way. i look at hima dn say "whose fault is that?" (the black guys) he says "bush, he's racist and discriminates against them cause he doesn't like them." me "that's stupid, he's not, and even if he was important people would notice and remove him, besides that clinton guy had the exact same average, and at least he can manage to keep his dick out of interns, you stupid loser." he went on and on about it. he's anti gun, anti-4wheelin, anti-military, anti fun(all that above is fun) he's not a hippy, just one of these suburban white kids that thinks he's black and tries to feel the pain of his people. he knows a lot about current events i'll give hime that. on the other hand i don't give a f*ck what's going on in some 3rd (or 4th) world country. my attitude is: if it's really important i'll hear about it. got any similar stories? OffRoad

That is not necessarily true... Guy sounds just like the denizens of Cambridge, MA.

by that "my attitude is: if it's really important i'll hear about it. " thing i mean that i've heard about imporatna stuff. new president, wtc terrorism, etc. truly imporatnat stuff you would have heard about if you didn't watch tv. but i did.

I live by Chicago, heard it all the time.

I like Rage Against The Machine.... Michael

The flaw with that argument is the lack of background. Bush has only been in office a year... and he's been a little too preoccupied with overseas affairs to personally launch the "I want to incarcerate all black men" campaign. ::heavy sarcasm:: Ask your friend how many black men had criminal records PRIOR to Bush being elected and compare that to now. I would be surprised if the numbers vary at all. Oh... and if he's "anti" all that is legally fun, ask him how much "fun" he has with illegal drugs i.e. pot. [i]Just a hunch...[/i] [rolleyes]

Get him high and take him shooting. *[b][i]JUST KIDDING[/i][/b]*

the boy prolly does smoke the dubes...

It's always difficult to reason with people if they begin with a premise that is anti everything. A number of years ago I way shooting at a local sand pit and had a very strange encounter with a PRC type. He was a Harvard grad who made no bones about telling me how ignorant I was, both mentally and spiritually. Did not matter that I had a masters from one of the better schools in NE. He got quite upset that I was shooting near trees. He warned me not to hit one with a bullet as they would feel the pain. So off he went, literally talking to the trees. However, I had to admire his earnest desire to protect and nurture nature. It was his utter contempt for anything human that made me think this poor guy is so confused. Before I left, and knowing I was alone, I took notice of a rather large Elm that seemed to be out of place there. It overlooked the whole area where I was shooting. I approached the tree and just studied it for a minute. Got out my Mini and pumped 30 rounds into the base. Never leave a witness behind is my motto.

Ask him to examine the amount and percentages of criminals in the federal prison system during President Clinton's administration broken down by race and then compare it to the Sr. Mr. Bush. Now tell me again, who's the racist? Ask him when was the last time you saw a Black Secretary of State or National Security Advisor. I pray that the first female/black president is Condoleezza Rice and not someone like Hillary. It seems that the misguided moron you spoke with suffers from a good case of ignorance. The sad part is that no matter what he'll probably choose to stay that way. God Bless Texas

You ASS! Thanks for proving that guy RIGHT! If you were miffed by the guy, take it out on him... oh, but nooooo... big man wants to mow down a tree instead. [rolleyes] I agree with most conservationalists that you take what you NEED and leave the rest. You decimated a tree in some mis-guided adult temper tantrum. And now you present it like you expect some pat on the back for your behavior. Well, bend over, baby, 'cause your "pat" is coming... only it'll be lower, harder and delivered with you bent over my knee!

only it'll be lower, harder and delivered with you bent over my knee! i think some of the members would be interested in that. i think you'll regret saying that.

Nah... anybody who really knows me knows that I regret very little in my life. [;)]

well that opens up a plethora of possibilities you sound like some fun...

Uh oh. First warning sign. "I've got an education! There's no way I can be socially inept, philosophically void, or even a moron!" And it's a shame you didn't hit a knot so it could send one flying back at you. Was the Elm looking at you funny? Did it laugh at the size of your penis? Is it the same elm that kicked your dog? [rolleyes] It's a TREE for heaven's sake. You just proved to us you are a moron despite your masters degree. A wise man hides his anger and contempt for others. Only a fool shows it. And only a fool intentionally hurts nature. I'm no tree hugger by any stretch of the imagination, but I also get my views on conservation from my Native American ancestors. You take only what you need and give thanks to God that it was provided because God made it and left it for you to use for something worthwhile, not some misguided temper tantrum. God Bless Texas

Elm or any other tree: "Weapon of Choice": "Stihl or Poulan Chain Saw" with the 16" Carbine chain or the 24" Varmint Special chain, "Depending on the Mission".

Then have fun! But if you buy their records or see their shows, then have fun supporting various silly leftist causes - esp. the cartoonish crusade to "Free Mumia!" or the fashionable deification Che Guevarra (among other assorted stupidities that make me assume fetal position and shudder). ;) I found their guitarist musically interesting for say, about ten minutes. Other than that, just a bunch of marxist college punks. Not all that impressive.

Rich marxist college punks at that. I'd love to see how they redistribute their wealth. Oh right, they don't! It's always easy to be a socialist when it's someone elses money. God Bless Texas

Nothing like an american rock band that is anti-capitalism [rolleyes] Not to mention that whatever it is they 'play', it sure as heck ain't music.

Miss Magnum and Godblesstexas Of course, I have always had the highest regard for women in general, and specifically those who are armed. What I did was indeed quite childlike and something to be regretted. I am not someone to shy away from getting what I most certainly deserve. I was not just a bad boy, I was a very bad boy. Needless to say, I demand, nay, implore, I be taught a lesson with extreme enthusiasm. If this is not done quickly, the temptation to continue this anti-animistic behavior shall rise up within me. Please make good your word. If not for our mutual growth, then for "mother" nature. Godblesstexas sir, It may strike you as humorous, I did indeed hit a knot in said Elm tree. Poetic justice had the last word. As the great spirit in the sky would have it, the tree fell on my head. The blow was so severe as to cause a complete loss of male function (if you know what I mean). In addition, the few IQ points I had were reduced by no small amount. However, through this sad flow of events, I have been offered a position chairing the Texas state chapter of MENSA. It will be nice to be home again. I went to college and was married in the Dallas area. All of my out-laws still live in that great state.

Yup, grew up in West Cambridge. Left when I was 23 because of my job. I tend to be confrontational with those types of people. Rarely (when I feel intellectually armed re: the topic at hand), if ever, shy away from a debate. Needless to say, being the anti-liberal, I did alot of debating in high school (CRLS for all you homeboys). Leaving Cambridge did wonders for my blood pressure. I hate bleeding heart liberals; they make me physically ill.