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Posted: 10/9/2004 9:27:12 AM EST
This is a serious question I had my first police for a while opened it all the time, my method is holding it by the blade and tossing the handle out. (it makes for a real fast draw out of the pocket) Because the blade is the only piece you can reach.

the second one broke after I opened it 5 times

now I have my 3rd one, and I really like the knifes because how sharp they are (razor tip) and pointy great for poking threw clothing. (I rested it on my jeans and it went right through)

I am guessing the holding the blade method is why I broke 2 in a row??

any ideas?
Link Posted: 10/9/2004 9:31:51 AM EST
I don't understand - where does the blade break?
Link Posted: 10/9/2004 9:38:18 AM EST
I'm not a knife expert, but aren't you suppose to hold the knife by the handle, and put your thumb on the Sypder hold and push the blade out with your thumb? Holding it by the blade and using the weight of the handle to deploy your knife probably puts too much strain on the blade.
Link Posted: 10/9/2004 9:45:59 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/9/2004 9:48:21 AM EST by deimos]
What you're doing is (or very similar) to the "Spyderco pop" or something like that, can't remember the exact name, and AFAIR, it's encouraged by the folks at SP...

I opened my SPs MANY times like that and never had a problem...

Tried to contact Sal? He's alwsys helpfull to customers and might want to know that one of his designs beraks constantly if opened in certain way in JUST 5 times...


TO CLARIFY: what I'm referring to is grab the knife by the hole in the blade, and flick the handle open (as oposed as grrb the handle and flick the blade open)
Link Posted: 10/9/2004 9:47:53 AM EST

Originally Posted By Dolomite:
I don't understand - where does the blade break?



its actually not the blade that breaks its the spine lock, there is a small spring that breaks apart.
Link Posted: 10/9/2004 9:53:19 AM EST

Originally Posted By 1911greg:

Originally Posted By Dolomite:
I don't understand - where does the blade break?



its actually not the blade that breaks its the spine lock, there is a small spring that breaks apart.


Maybe Spdyerco got a bunch of knives with bad springs. I would do what deimos recommended and call Saul at Spyderco.
Link Posted: 10/9/2004 9:57:17 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/9/2004 10:09:54 AM EST by deimos]
The email address for Sal Glesser is sglesser@spyderco.com

BFC Spydie Forums: www.bladeforums.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=726

If you still have the two other Police's you might want to ship them to Sal with an explanation of what exactly happened for him to check them up.

Sal Glesser
R & D
Spyderco Knives
820 Spyderco way
Golden, CO 80403
Link Posted: 10/9/2004 10:26:57 AM EST
The best solution would be to take the Spyderco out of your pocket by holding it near the clip end.

Without opening it, throw it away.

Buy a *good* knife, and put that in your pocket.


Link Posted: 10/9/2004 10:46:13 AM EST
Or buy a knife with a tip up clip
Link Posted: 10/9/2004 12:58:24 PM EST

Originally Posted By DScott:
The best solution would be to take the Spyderco out of your pocket by holding it near the clip end.

Without opening it, throw it away.

Buy a *good* knife, and put that in your pocket.





+1 I learned my lesson after breaking 3.
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 10:03:51 AM EST

Originally Posted By Aggie1:

Originally Posted By DScott:
The best solution would be to take the Spyderco out of your pocket by holding it near the clip end.

Without opening it, throw it away.

Buy a *good* knife, and put that in your pocket.





+1 I learned my lesson after breaking 3.



hey aggie, you also broke 3 spydercos? did they explain why they broke?
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 10:12:46 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/11/2004 10:13:07 AM EST by psychotr]
The police has a stainless handle right?

I've opened my spydercos hundreds of times like that without a problem. They are the fiberglass/G10 handles though. The heavy stainless handles would put more of a strain on the lock than the lighter materials opening this way.
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 10:23:06 AM EST

Originally Posted By DScott:
The best solution would be to take the Spyderco out of your pocket by holding it near the clip end.

Without opening it, throw it away.

Buy a *good* knife, and put that in your pocket.





Not to join in on busting on the the spydercos...A good benchmade is the price of that SP. Only person I knew who had one broke it...one of those little parts in the handle. I've abused (abuse from a military guy) my 2 BM axis locks and I've never had one break or fail.
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 12:03:05 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/11/2004 12:06:53 PM EST by DScott]


Is this the one you have?

Which piece is breaking? Is it the "lock spring" in that drawing?

Clearly, your opening method exceeds the tolerances of whatever bit is breaking. Unacceptable to me in a $100 knife.

Ultimately, it doesn't really matter. Alot of the folding knife makers advise against flicking the blade open, just for the reasons you've experienced- they just might break.

I gave up on the front-lock and liner-lock folders. I just kept imagining what would happen when some little itsy bit of metal breaks while I am bearing down on something, with the knife folding up on my fingers.

Ouch!
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 3:00:15 PM EST

Originally Posted By DScott:
www.spyderco.com/pix/edgeucation/lock_front.gif

Is this the one you have?

Which piece is breaking? Is it the "lock spring" in that drawing?

Clearly, your opening method exceeds the tolerances of whatever bit is breaking. Unacceptable to me in a $100 knife.

Ultimately, it doesn't really matter. Alot of the folding knife makers advise against flicking the blade open, just for the reasons you've experienced- they just might break.

I gave up on the front-lock and liner-lock folders. I just kept imagining what would happen when some little itsy bit of metal breaks while I am bearing down on something, with the knife folding up on my fingers.

Ouch!



my knife is very similar,just bigger.

its the spring that keeps breaking.
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 3:11:26 PM EST

Originally Posted By DScott:
The best solution would be to take the Spyderco out of your pocket by holding it near the clip end.

Without opening it, throw it away.

Buy a *good* knife, and put that in your pocket.





+1
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 3:12:55 PM EST
here is how to fix your problem:


Buy a benchmade.
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 3:19:33 PM EST

Originally Posted By mtechgunman:
here is how to fix your problem:


Buy a benchmade.



Correction buy a Strider
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 3:21:45 PM EST

Originally Posted By 1911greg:

Originally Posted By Aggie1:

Originally Posted By DScott:
The best solution would be to take the Spyderco out of your pocket by holding it near the clip end.

Without opening it, throw it away.

Buy a *good* knife, and put that in your pocket.





+1 I learned my lesson after breaking 3.



hey aggie, you also broke 3 spydercos? did they explain why they broke?



Broke two blades cutting plastic. Another just stopped locking open. Almost found out the hard way.
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 3:24:07 PM EST
buy a benchmade, had mine for five years still going strong and sharper than hell
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 3:27:21 PM EST

Originally Posted By Sumo:

Originally Posted By mtechgunman:
here is how to fix your problem:


Buy a benchmade.



Correction buy a Strider



Beat me to it. You will not break it and if you somehow manage to, it's fixed. Period.

By the time you keep buying those, you will be able to afford a Strider folder.
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 3:30:10 PM EST
And I love my Benchmades. But if you want one of the strongest folders, and are really going to use it, Strider is for you. SnGs are nice. SMF are a bit big for me. They are coming out with a smaller version of the SnG/SMF format. It may be out already, but not sure. I can give you links to Strider sites with dealers if you think you want one...
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 3:46:40 PM EST
where does one find these "Striders"? i have never seen them.
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 3:59:39 PM EST

Originally Posted By mtechgunman:
where does one find these "Striders"? i have never seen them.



www.striderknives.com
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 4:00:46 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/11/2004 4:01:11 PM EST by deimos]

Originally Posted By mtechgunman:
where does one find these "Striders"? i have never seen them.



www.bladeart.com/artists/strider/strider.htm

www.tadgear.com/edged%20tools/strider_knives.htm
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 4:04:48 PM EST
Easy solution:


Buy an Emerson.
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 4:10:44 PM EST

Originally Posted By thelastgunslinger:
Easy solution:


Buy an Emerson.



+1
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 4:17:05 PM EST
get a cold steel knife and you will not break it.
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 4:21:48 PM EST
You could also not use it.That would be a pretty sure way of not breaking it.
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 4:29:43 PM EST
Striders may be nice and all, but $400 for a pocketknife...
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