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Posted: 9/18/2005 11:28:51 AM EDT
at the camden shoot yesterday i got to shoot some class III stuff and now i must own something. would love an m16 but cannot afford one. what about a silenced uzi? someone tell me the best bang for the buck class III weapon. and a synopsis of exactly what i will have to do to own it. thanks.
Link Posted: 9/18/2005 11:29:25 AM EDT
MAC 10
Link Posted: 9/18/2005 11:34:25 AM EDT
Ruger AC556's are actually reasonably priced and pretty neat.
Link Posted: 9/18/2005 11:35:11 AM EDT

Originally Posted By afman91201:
MAC 10



+ Form 4, signed off by your chief LEO in the area, aka Police Chief, Sheriff etc etc

+ Prints and Form 4 sent off the to ATF with a $200 check for the "tax"

+ 6-9month wait

Or, alternatively, you could form a Corporation (mine's a Nevada Corp - 30 minutes of work and under $100 bucks to file) and avoid the whole sign-off/prints issue. FWIW, my first transfer took exactly 9 months. First transfer after setting up a corp took 4 months for the paperwork on a can to go through and 3 months for my Oly RR.

Macs are a real good way to get into NFA. I never got one myself...I went the Uzi route instead.


Sheep
Link Posted: 9/18/2005 11:38:11 AM EDT

Originally Posted By SheepDog_556:

Originally Posted By afman91201:
MAC 10



+ Form 4, signed off by your chief LEO in the area, aka Police Chief, Sheriff etc etc

+ Prints and Form 4 sent off the to ATF with a $200 check for the "tax"

+ 6-9month wait

Or, alternatively, you could form a Corporation (mine's a Nevada Corp - 30 minutes of work and under $100 bucks to file) and avoid the whole sign-off/prints issue. FWIW, my first transfer took exactly 9 months. First transfer after setting up a corp took 4 months for the paperwork on a can to go through and 3 months for my Oly RR.

Macs are a real good way to get into NFA. I never got one myself...I went the Uzi route instead.


Sheep


sheep, where is a good place for me to go to for some tips on the corp. route? also where is a good place to price some classIII stuff? thanks.
Link Posted: 9/18/2005 11:38:23 AM EDT
Link Posted: 9/18/2005 11:42:45 AM EDT

Originally Posted By jmt1271:
sheep, where is a good place for me to go to for some tips on the corp. route? also where is a good place to price some classIII stuff? thanks.



Huge resource here on our very own, beloved ARFCOM....go to the AR-15 forum, click on this:

M16 - Full Auto


FWIW, I got into my Uzi a looooooooooooong time ago, when they were quite a bit cheaper. Gloftoe is correct....a Mac will run you about half what an Uzi will. The AC556 is another good bet, but still more than a MAC.


Sheep
Link Posted: 9/18/2005 11:44:12 AM EDT

Originally Posted By SheepDog_556:

Originally Posted By jmt1271:
sheep, where is a good place for me to go to for some tips on the corp. route? also where is a good place to price some classIII stuff? thanks.



Huge resource here on our very own, beloved ARFCOM....go to the AR-15 forum, click on this:

M16 - Full Auto


FWIW, I got into my Uzi a looooooooooooong time ago, when they were quite a bit cheaper. Gloftoe is correct....a Mac will run you about half what an Uzi will. The AC556 is another good bet, but still more than a MAC.


Sheep


copy, thanks.
Link Posted: 9/18/2005 11:47:10 AM EDT
stens are running about $4-5k now and they work pretty well, easily suppressed too...
Link Posted: 9/18/2005 11:51:23 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/18/2005 11:51:48 AM EDT by SheepDog_556]

Originally Posted By jmt1271:
copy, thanks.



Good luck on your journey. Watch out for David_Hineline. Mangina's always a little sandy with him.



Hmmm.....Stens. *goes off to GunBroker.com*


Sheep
Link Posted: 9/18/2005 11:53:15 AM EDT
I would really like a FA rifle but since there is nowhere nearby I can shoot I gotta stick with SMGs, think of where you can shoot it first,

Would suck to have a MG you cant shoot on auto anywhere close.
Link Posted: 9/18/2005 12:00:05 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Taxman:
I would really like a FA rifle but since there is nowhere nearby I can shoot I gotta stick with SMGs, think of where you can shoot it first,

Would suck to have a MG you cant shoot on auto anywhere close.


tax, this may be a stupid question, but what do you do with a SMG that is different than a FA rifle?
Link Posted: 9/18/2005 12:01:51 PM EDT

Originally Posted By jmt1271:

Originally Posted By Taxman:
I would really like a FA rifle but since there is nowhere nearby I can shoot I gotta stick with SMGs, think of where you can shoot it first,

Would suck to have a MG you cant shoot on auto anywhere close.


tax, this may be a stupid question, but what do you do with a SMG that is different than a FA rifle?



I can shoot it at the indoor range that allows class 3 stuff, they dont allow rifles though.

The outdoor ranges dont allot class 3.
Link Posted: 9/18/2005 12:01:58 PM EDT
Reisings are still somewhat inexpensive and are .45
Link Posted: 9/18/2005 12:04:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/18/2005 12:04:36 PM EDT by chewbacca]
Would an LLC count?
Link Posted: 9/18/2005 12:05:03 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Taxman:

Originally Posted By jmt1271:

Originally Posted By Taxman:
I would really like a FA rifle but since there is nowhere nearby I can shoot I gotta stick with SMGs, think of where you can shoot it first,

Would suck to have a MG you cant shoot on auto anywhere close.


tax, this may be a stupid question, but what do you do with a SMG that is different than a FA rifle?



I can shoot it at the indoor range that allows class 3 stuff, they dont allow rifles though.

The outdoor ranges dont allot class 3.


is it legal to shoot on private ground(outside the city limits), assuming it is legally owned?
Link Posted: 9/18/2005 12:05:52 PM EDT

Originally Posted By jmt1271:
tax, this may be a stupid question, but what do you do with a SMG that is different than a FA rifle?



Many of the ranges out here also prohibit FA fire. I solve this by simply driving out into the Nat'l Forrest or BLM land. Does tend to make the rangers a little jumpy tho'.

Strangely enough, if I am on the clock and in the blue monkey suit, I can blaze away all I want at a range, but apperantly as soon as I put on the civillian togs, I become a dangerous idiot.



Sheep
Link Posted: 9/18/2005 12:06:27 PM EDT

Originally Posted By chewbacca:
Would an LLC count?



Yes. Mine is an LLC.



Sheep
Link Posted: 9/18/2005 12:06:43 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Taxman:
I would really like a FA rifle but since there is nowhere nearby I can shoot I gotta stick with SMGs, think of where you can shoot it first,

Would suck to have a MG you cant shoot on auto anywhere close.



I drive 3 hrs to shoot at an outdoor range and I'd drive 6 if need be. Course I only get them out 4-5 times a year.
Link Posted: 9/18/2005 12:08:29 PM EDT

Originally Posted By jmt1271:
is it legal to shoot on private ground(outside the city limits), assuming it is legally owned?



Yes. Might expect the Sheriff's Office to wander by and inquire as to what's up though. Be prepared to educate the deputies. Many of them will want to see your "machine gun permit". Explaining to them that no such thing exists can be daunting....and I'm a cop.


Sheep
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