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Posted: 6/22/2011 5:14:13 PM EDT
seriously?
WTF?
they just came out with 4, (which blows major donkey balls) and now it wants me to upgrade to 5????

did I miss something?
Link Posted: 6/22/2011 5:15:15 PM EDT
5 will not support my "plane old favorites".
Link Posted: 6/22/2011 5:22:10 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/22/2011 5:24:03 PM EDT by deevil]
They're trying to commit to a faster/more-consistent development/release cycle.  I upgraded, and I don't see anything new, other than the "app tabs" or whatever. I'll still use the bookmarks toolbar for that functionality.

ETA: Firefix 5 is still using 250+ MB of RAM to handle the 4 ARF tabs I currently have open.
Link Posted: 6/22/2011 5:49:09 PM EDT
I like the "Pin as App Tab" feature.
Link Posted: 6/22/2011 5:49:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/22/2011 5:50:10 PM EDT by GLOCKREAPER]




ETA:Emoticons work now too.



 
Link Posted: 6/22/2011 6:24:42 PM EDT
Four had a memory leak and ghost instances for me. Had to reboot every few days or internet use came to near standstill. Glad to be rid of it. Haven't had enough time yet to tell if 5 has the same problem.
Link Posted: 6/22/2011 6:26:55 PM EDT
Run mozbackup BEFORE you upgrade, in case something shits the bed.



Thank me later.
Link Posted: 6/22/2011 6:31:42 PM EDT



Originally Posted By deevil:

ETA: Firefix 5 is still using 250+ MB of RAM to handle the 4 ARF tabs I currently have open.


Memory is cheap.



Chrome, the more I use it, the more it becomes painfully obvious that it's a complete piece of shit.

Sometimes you can't even log into certain sites with it... what the fuck?



Firefox, no problems.



 
Link Posted: 6/22/2011 6:36:38 PM EDT
Originally Posted By BozemanMT:
did I miss something?

yes, the slashdot article.

http://news.slashdot.org/story/11/06/22/172229/No-Additional-Firefox-4-Security-Updates


CWmike writes "Unnoticed in the Tuesday release of Firefox 5 was Mozilla's decision to retire Firefox 4, shipped just three months ago. Mozilla spelled out vulnerabilities it had patched in that edition and in 2010's Firefox 3.6, but it made no mention of any bugs fixed in Firefox 4 on Tuesday, because Firefox 4 has reached what Mozilla calls EOL, for 'end of life,' for patches.

Although the move may have caught users by surprise, the decision to stop supporting Firefox 4 has been discussed within Mozilla for weeks. In a mozilla.dev.planning mailing list thread, Christian Legnitto, the Firefox release manager, put it most succinctly on May 25: 'Firefox 5 will be the security update for Firefox 4.' Problem is, users are being prompted to upgrade now but are hesitant because the new rapid release of updates means many add-ons are not compatible. And without security updates in between, many could be left exposed with unpatched browsers."

Link Posted: 6/22/2011 6:42:39 PM EDT
No problems with 5 here, and all my add-ons work.
Link Posted: 6/22/2011 6:55:35 PM EDT



Originally Posted By fiver:




Run mozbackup BEFORE you upgrade, in case something shits the bed.



Thank me later.


The one computer I tried 4 on didn't give me that option, it forced 5 on.



 
Link Posted: 6/22/2011 6:56:42 PM EDT
Firefox 4 was/is terrible, which pushed me into using Chrome.  Chrome is much faster, and seems no more problematic than Firefox for me.
Link Posted: 6/22/2011 7:01:02 PM EDT



Originally Posted By Troubl3shooter:





Originally Posted By fiver:



Run mozbackup BEFORE you upgrade, in case something shits the bed.



Thank me later.


The one computer I tried 4 on didn't give me that option, it forced 5 on.

 


It's not an option.



It's a third party tool you download to back up your profile.



And FF doesn't "force" an upgrade.  You were given a prompt with the chioce to cancel.



 
Link Posted: 6/22/2011 7:04:18 PM EDT



Originally Posted By fiver:


Originally Posted By Troubl3shooter:


Originally Posted By fiver:



Run mozbackup BEFORE you upgrade, in case something shits the bed.



Thank me later.


The one computer I tried 4 on didn't give me that option, it forced 5 on.

 


It's not an option.



It's a third party tool you download to back up your profile.



And FF doesn't "force" an upgrade.  You were given a prompt with the chioce to cancel.

 


Nope, I clicked on the firefox icon and it said it was installing an upgrade, same as if it was going from 4.x to 4.x.1 but instead went to 5.



 
Link Posted: 6/22/2011 7:09:05 PM EDT
Hell I still using a (currently patched up to date) version of FF 3, if it works, dont break it.
Link Posted: 6/22/2011 7:10:00 PM EDT
I just went to see what version of FF I had and it did the update to 5.
Link Posted: 6/22/2011 7:11:28 PM EDT
Running well for me.
Link Posted: 6/22/2011 7:13:07 PM EDT
I'm still using 3.6.17  is there a reason to upgrade?
Link Posted: 6/22/2011 7:17:37 PM EDT
I'd rather go back to 3.6.
I may end up going back to Opera if 5 isn't any better.
I only switched for the built in spell check.
Link Posted: 6/22/2011 7:29:15 PM EDT
I don't understand FF4. They basically took all the tool bars and hid them for a more sleek look.
Link Posted: 6/22/2011 8:01:20 PM EDT
FireFox can suck a dick. FireFox 4 is the reason I have a hard drive with the boot manager file missing.
Link Posted: 6/22/2011 8:06:46 PM EDT
So the solution is chrome then ?
Link Posted: 6/22/2011 8:13:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/22/2011 8:14:08 PM EDT by gunham]
Mozilla Delivers New Version of Firefox – First Web Browser to Support Do Not Track on Multiple Platforms

The latest version of Firefox includes more than 1,000 improvements and performance enhancements that make it easier to discover and use all of the innovative features in Firefox. This release adds support for more modern Web technologies that make it easier for developers to build amazing Firefox Add-ons, Web applications and websites.


http://blog.mozilla.com/




Impeach Obama for the Good of the Internet Users.
Link Posted: 6/22/2011 8:35:46 PM EDT



Originally Posted By SPECTRE:


So the solution is chrome then ?


Try pale moon.



 
Link Posted: 6/22/2011 8:46:22 PM EDT



Originally Posted By deevil:


They're trying to commit to a faster/more-consistent development/release cycle.  I upgraded, and I don't see anything new, other than the "app tabs" or whatever. I'll still use the bookmarks toolbar for that functionality.



ETA: Firefix 5 is still using 250+ MB of RAM to handle the 4 ARF tabs I currently have open.


Well, having 8 Gig of ram, it doesn't hurt me.



 
Link Posted: 6/22/2011 8:47:28 PM EDT
Will 5 fix the memory leak ?
Link Posted: 6/22/2011 8:48:06 PM EDT
this sucks i want 3.6 back
Link Posted: 6/22/2011 8:53:50 PM EDT
I'll give 5 a week. If it shits the bed like 4 then its back to 3.6 for me. 4 is an abomination.

Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile
Link Posted: 6/22/2011 9:00:24 PM EDT



Originally Posted By EFB16ACRX:


this sucks i want 3.6 back


Agreed.



Every time Mozilla releases a new version of Firefox they break some of the popular add-ons, forcing users into an endless cycle of checking for updates to their add-ons. It's getting old.



 
Link Posted: 6/22/2011 9:22:37 PM EDT
FF5 does not support google toolbar.
Link Posted: 6/22/2011 9:28:00 PM EDT
I'm happy with 3.6.

Though I seem to be using 1.9 gigs of memory...
Link Posted: 6/22/2011 9:28:02 PM EDT
Originally Posted By rufusrufgut:
FF5 does not support google toolbar.


I'm looking at a search bar with a Google G in it right now.


Link Posted: 6/22/2011 9:29:48 PM EDT



Originally Posted By rufusrufgut:


FF5 does not support google toolbar.


Mine works.



 
Link Posted: 6/22/2011 9:38:20 PM EDT
Originally Posted By gonzo_beyondo:

Originally Posted By deevil:
ETA: Firefix 5 is still using 250+ MB of RAM to handle the 4 ARF tabs I currently have open.

Memory is cheap.

Chrome, the more I use it, the more it becomes painfully obvious that it's a complete piece of shit.
Sometimes you can't even log into certain sites with it... what the fuck?

Firefox, no problems.
 



With you there.  I have at least a dozen tabs open with FF 3.6.18 in Ubuntu and it is using about 200 MB RAM.  Whoop-de-doo.  What is the "correct" amount of RAM for a browser to use, anyway?

I couldn't give less damn if FF4 used twice or even three times the RAM of FF 3.6.x.  Unless I'm running multiple virtual machines, I never come close to filling my 4 GB RAM.  I didn't buy it to sit there empty, so the "how much RAM does it use" prick-waving contest among browsers is not interesting.
Link Posted: 6/22/2011 9:51:29 PM EDT



Originally Posted By EFB16ACRX:


this sucks i want 3.6 back


I am damn glad I was too lazy to upgrade immediately and got to hear all of arfcom's bitching about 4 first.  I haven't gone past 3.6 and won't until I let you guys test out 5 first.



 
Link Posted: 6/22/2011 10:02:40 PM EDT
I liked 4 and I'm liking 5, I hate tool bars and extra clutter, it runs fast as well, it is still RAM black hole. I usually shut the system down at night, and reboot a time or two during the day if it needs it
Link Posted: 6/23/2011 7:18:57 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/23/2011 7:27:37 AM EDT by rufusrufgut]
Originally Posted By GLOCKREAPER:

Originally Posted By rufusrufgut:
FF5 does not support google toolbar.

Mine works.
 

Okay. I got it to work. I just had to go into the tools section and then add ons. I was trying to download it from cnet and it would give me i pop up that said it was not compatible with FF5. All is good now.
Link Posted: 6/23/2011 7:48:34 AM EDT



Originally Posted By ar10er:





Originally Posted By deevil:

They're trying to commit to a faster/more-consistent development/release cycle.  I upgraded, and I don't see anything new, other than the "app tabs" or whatever. I'll still use the bookmarks toolbar for that functionality.



ETA: Firefix 5 is still using 250+ MB of RAM to handle the 4 ARF tabs I currently have open.


Well, having 8 Gig of ram, it doesn't hurt me.

 


Had 9GB, upgraded to 12GB recently. Never had any RAM problems with FF.



 
Link Posted: 6/23/2011 3:13:57 PM EDT
Not compatible with my Kaspersky. So I have to wait until it is
Link Posted: 6/23/2011 3:23:22 PM EDT



Originally Posted By MichiganMafia:





Originally Posted By EFB16ACRX:

this sucks i want 3.6 back


Agreed.



Every time Mozilla releases a new version of Firefox they break some of the popular add-ons, forcing users into an endless cycle of checking for updates to their add-ons. It's getting old.

 


Whine, and you shall receive.  





http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all-older.html
 
Link Posted: 6/23/2011 3:27:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/23/2011 3:32:50 PM EDT by AdviceDog]
well last night when I clicked on the Firefox desktop icon- it did an automatic upgrade to .ver 5 with no option to cancel.

It crashed 3 times last night before I finally took the update to Flash.
Seems to be running well now though.

26 tabs open and 361 MB of RAM used.
Link Posted: 6/23/2011 3:36:35 PM EDT
I like the new layout that came with 4.  I have no problems other than Gestures and Tabs add ons don't work yet.

Mozbackup took a dump on me once so I don't trust it.  Sync so far does what I need.

5 works good so far.
Link Posted: 6/23/2011 3:51:17 PM EDT
Originally Posted By AdviceDog:
well last night when I clicked on the Firefox desktop icon- it did an automatic upgrade to .ver 5 with no option to cancel.

It crashed 3 times last night before I finally took the update to Flash.
Seems to be running well now though.

26 tabs open and 361 MB of RAM used.


Funny...333 MB of RAM with only three tabs open...on my MacBook Pro...
Link Posted: 6/23/2011 4:34:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/23/2011 4:35:41 PM EDT by SnoopisTDI]





Originally Posted By fiver:
Originally Posted By Troubl3shooter:
Originally Posted By fiver:





Run mozbackup BEFORE you upgrade, in case something shits the bed.





Thank me later.



The one computer I tried 4 on didn't give me that option, it forced 5 on.


 



It's not an option.





It's a third party tool you download to back up your profile.





And FF doesn't "force" an upgrade.  You were given a prompt with the chioce to cancel.


 



Not here - I got the choice of now or later.











ETA: I guess I shrunk that a little too much! It says, "The update will be installed the next time Firefox starts.  You can restart Firefox now, or continue working and restart later."  The two buttons are Restart Later and Restart Firefox.





 
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