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Posted: 3/15/2011 2:39:47 PM EST
[Last Edit: 3/15/2011 3:06:56 PM EST by FluffyTheCat]

Suppose you do not own any guns. But you have $1000 you can spend. You want to build a respectable battery. You want a pistol and and a rifle for self defense. You would also like to have a decent hunting rifle and a shotgun. You can use the shotgun for hunting and also for defense.

Here's what I might do:

Over at Guns America, there are surplus Israeli police CZ-75 pistols. These guns were apparently made in 1992. The price is $350.

The SKS is a reasonably effective, semi auto rifle that would be well suited for self defense. You can buy a Yugo SKS over at Guns America for $230. I don't know about you, but I would not feel too happy about getting into a fight with a determined man equipped with a 10 shot semi auto 7.62x39mm.

Now as for a shotgun, how about a High Standard Model 20 in 12 guage? These are solid, reliable, all steel, smooth pump action shotguns. You can get one for about 150 to 160 bucks.

Finally,that leaves us with a hunting rifle. I would pick a Husqvarna Model 640 in 8mm Mauser or .30-06. You can usually find one for about $350. There's one over at Guns America for $350 and it includes a 4 power scope.

So there you have it––the 1000 dollar home arsenal.

Please share your ideas. There are lots of folks who need to arm themselves on a budget.
Link Posted: 3/15/2011 2:41:26 PM EST
[Last Edit: 3/15/2011 2:41:44 PM EST by nchapa]
sell your house and buy more guns, better yet get a job.
Link Posted: 3/15/2011 2:43:41 PM EST
ammo is almost as expensive as guns now, i mean to have enough per gun.good post, gotta have guns.
Link Posted: 3/15/2011 2:45:45 PM EST
i could have built an ar using a del ton kit for 550...id probably take that, a cz 82 and a maverick 88.
Link Posted: 3/15/2011 2:46:17 PM EST
I would skip the shotgun. Shotguns are a fowling piece and a specialized CQB weapon. They are prolific because they are reliable and cheap.

A used Glock for use as CCW and a primary handgun. The "compact models" fit the bill. A G19 9mm or a G23 i.40 S&W would be ideal. Can be had for around $350.

The rest I would sink into an AR15.

The hunting rifle could come later. I would look long and hard at C&R rifles like Lee-Enfields and K98s.
Link Posted: 3/15/2011 2:49:11 PM EST
Get you one of these!



Link Posted: 3/15/2011 2:50:56 PM EST
I'd rather have one or two nice guns than five shitty beaters for a grand. Quality over quantity.
Link Posted: 3/15/2011 2:51:14 PM EST
1st purchase: used ar for $650
2nd: Used glock: $350

Buy a shotty and a ruger 10/22 when $ allows.

Link Posted: 3/15/2011 2:52:07 PM EST
Originally Posted By bcw107:
I'd rather have one or two nice guns than five shitty beaters for a grand. Quality over quantity.
I agree.

Link Posted: 3/15/2011 2:52:09 PM EST
Originally Posted By Miles_Urbanus:
I would skip the shotgun. Shotguns are a fowling piece and a specialized CQB weapon. They are prolific because they are reliable and cheap.

A used Glock for use as CCW and a primary handgun. The "compact models" fit the bill. A G19 9mm or a G23 i.40 S&W would be ideal. Can be had for around $350.

The rest I would sink into an AR15.

The hunting rifle could come later. I would look long and hard at C&R rifles like Lee-Enfields and K98s.


Well, I'd want a fowling piece to hunt birds. In bad times, a shotgun would be most useful that way. And as you note, they are reliable and cheap.

I the idea of C&R rifles such as Lee Enfields and K98s. But the Husqvarna 640 is a model 98 rifle and it is affordable and well suited to be used as an all round hunting rifle. Mine will shoot MOA or better.

The SKS is cheap and reliable. And ammo can still be found cheaply. Anyway, this is a fun topic and keep the ideas coming.

Link Posted: 3/15/2011 2:53:26 PM EST
I'd skip the SKS. They really are not that great.
Link Posted: 3/15/2011 2:55:15 PM EST
I thought this was about a solar battery set up////
Link Posted: 3/15/2011 2:58:22 PM EST

Originally Posted By foxherb53:
I thought this was about a solar battery set up////


Yeah, WTF is up with this.

After looking at where the OP is from it all makes scense now.
Link Posted: 3/15/2011 2:58:30 PM EST
Originally Posted By bcw107:
I'd rather have one or two nice guns than five shitty beaters for a grand. Quality over quantity.



I would not want any beaters either. But my two Husqvarna 640s have perfect bores. With a little luck you could have a nice rifle at an attractive price.

And I do have a High Standard Model 20. It is well-used, but the bore is bright and shiny and it is a very smooth, useful shotgun. And I only paid $125 for it.

Anyway, lets keep the ideas coming. I also like the idea of the Mosin Nagant M44 carbine. Those are often available at low cost and ammo is cheap too.




Link Posted: 3/15/2011 3:00:05 PM EST
For $1,000, starting from scratch, I would probably pick up a Glock 19 and a Mossberg 500 or Remington 870.

Yeah, I know you said pistol and rifle, but really, for $1,000 you would be making too many concessions, and a shotgun is a great choice for defensive use. I would rather have my AR though.
Link Posted: 3/15/2011 3:03:40 PM EST


Let me elaborate a little

You need firearms for the following purposes:

1. Hunting big game––elk, moose, bear, etc.

2. Self defence

3. Small game, birds

Some of the weapons you choose may be compromises. I agree that an AR-15 would be a superb piece for self defence. But it is probably not an ideal big game weapon.

This is all about compromises, so lets hear your ideas.
Link Posted: 3/15/2011 3:07:57 PM EST
thread title fail.

Batteries;




Arsenal;



Link Posted: 3/15/2011 3:08:13 PM EST
[Last Edit: 3/15/2011 3:09:18 PM EST by GLOCKshooter]
My idea is a G19 and an AR15. You could do that for a grand if you tried. If you have no guns you NEED those.
Link Posted: 3/15/2011 3:12:01 PM EST
Originally Posted By GLOCKshooter:
My idea is a G19 and an AR15. You could do that for a grand if you tried. If you have no guns you NEED those.


But then you couldn't buy any ammo.

Link Posted: 3/15/2011 3:15:07 PM EST
Used Glock 19 and a Remington 870, the money you have left goes to ammo.

Self defense, home defense, hunting, etc....those two do it all.
Link Posted: 3/15/2011 3:18:51 PM EST
[Last Edit: 3/15/2011 3:19:56 PM EST by AmericanPatriot1776]
Used Glock
Used Mossberg 500 with interchangeable barrels (slug and bird barrel combo)

Extra money used for training


or.....

Del-ton ARkit
Used Glock


Extra money used for training



Link Posted: 3/15/2011 3:21:04 PM EST
[Last Edit: 3/15/2011 3:31:03 PM EST by para_frame]
Can I use deals I have already found?
Remington model 11, 12 gauge semi auto shotgun, $80 with new ejector. (hunting, self defense, plinking, big game close up)
Remington model 510, bolt action .22, $80. (small game hunting, plinking)
Springfield GI 1911, .45 ACP, $350 (self defense)
Chinese SKS, $300 (hunting, self defense)
1 walmart 100 round 12 ga. value pack, $20 (hunting, plinking)
2 10 round boxes of OO buck, $15 (SD, big game)
2 5 round boxes of rifled slugs, $10 (big game)
1 525 round .22 Blazer, $15 (Small game, plinking)
2 50 round boxes FMJ .45 ACP, $40 (plinking, SD if needed)
2 20 round boxes JHP .45 ACP, $30 (SD, hunting if needed)
10 20 round boxes of wolf 7.62x39, $60 (SD, hunting, plinking)
=$990
Link Posted: 3/15/2011 3:24:22 PM EST
Originally Posted By AmericanPatriot1776:
Used Glock
Used Mossberg 500 with interchangeable barrels (slug and bird barrel combo)

Extra money used for training


or.....

Del-ton ARkit
Used Glock


Extra money used for training






I like the idea of a shotgun with extra barrels. If you had rifled barrel, you could hunt big game using slugs.

And there are used Glocks available too. Another option would be an older revolver.




Link Posted: 3/15/2011 3:24:51 PM EST
home battery. (arsenal)


thought you were talking about a battery fort

Link Posted: 3/15/2011 3:25:44 PM EST
[Last Edit: 3/15/2011 3:26:30 PM EST by Badlatitude]
nevermind
Link Posted: 3/15/2011 3:26:00 PM EST
Originally Posted By MrMojoRising:
Used Glock 19 and a Remington 870, the money you have left goes to ammo.

Self defense, home defense, hunting, etc....those two do it all.


This.
Although I'm partial to the G26. If a weaponlight is in the future and ankle carry is not ... then the 19.
Otherwise the 870 and the G26. Ammo, ammo, ammo.

Stay safe
Link Posted: 3/15/2011 3:29:54 PM EST
Mossberg 500, find a used one for $150
Glock 17, $350 if you're good
Ruger 10/22 $175

Buy some ammo, extra mags and save for the AR for 650-750 later. The shotgun will be able to kill anything, pistol allows low profile backup, .22 can prob kill anything...just more quietly.
Link Posted: 3/15/2011 3:31:02 PM EST
[Last Edit: 3/15/2011 3:31:13 PM EST by Miles_Urbanus]
Originally Posted By para_frame:
Can I use deals I have already found?
Remington model 11, 12 gauge semi auto shotgun, $80 with new ejector.
Remington model 510, bolt action .22, $80.
Springfield GI 1911, .45 ACP, $350
Chinese SKS, $300
1 walmart 100 round 12 ga. value pack, $20
2 10 round boxes of OO buck, $15
2 5 round boxes of rifled slugs, $10
1 525 round .22 Blazer, $15
2 50 round boxes FMJ .45 ACP, $40
2 20 round boxes JHP .45 ACP, $30
10 20 round boxes of wolf 7.62x39, $60
=$990


Where are you finding these deals? Craigslist? Yardsales?
Link Posted: 3/15/2011 3:33:18 PM EST
[Last Edit: 3/15/2011 3:33:54 PM EST by Chris0013]
AR kit and an RIA 1911. The rest on ammo / mags.
Link Posted: 3/15/2011 3:41:14 PM EST
Link Posted: 3/15/2011 3:44:11 PM EST
Originally Posted By Chris0013:
AR kit and an RIA 1911. The rest on ammo / mags.


I think I'd go with this except also spend a bit more for a Ciener or CMMG kit for the AR.
Link Posted: 3/15/2011 3:44:22 PM EST
Savage 30/06 Package=$350
Used G19 =$400
Remington 870 =$250
––––––––-
$1000

If you look around you might get those for less money, I know I could do that tommorow. From small game to large game at 200 yards and HD/CCW. Another $50 gets you some ammo for all.
Link Posted: 3/15/2011 3:46:42 PM EST
Is this a Guns America commercial?
Link Posted: 3/15/2011 3:54:25 PM EST

Originally Posted By flinch08:
Savage 30/06 Package=$350
Used G19 =$400
Remington 870 =$250
––––––––-
$1000

If you look around you might get those for less money, I know I could do that tommorow. From small game to large game at 200 yards and HD/CCW. Another $50 gets you some ammo for all.
I was thinking some thing along these lines maybe a ruger p95 to get you some ammo money.

Link Posted: 3/15/2011 3:56:20 PM EST
Originally Posted By Miles_Urbanus:
Originally Posted By para_frame:
Can I use deals I have already found?
Remington model 11, 12 gauge semi auto shotgun, $80 with new ejector. Local gun store, missing ejector, well used
Remington model 510, bolt action .22, $80. Different local gun store, missing rear sight, scope mounts drilled off center
Springfield GI 1911, .45 ACP, $350 private sale, big idiot mark
Chinese SKS, $300 private sale
1 walmart 100 round 12 ga. value pack, $20 Walmart, duh.
2 10 round boxes of OO buck, $15 flocchi at big 5, on sale
2 5 round boxes of rifled slugs, $10 walmart
1 525 round .22 Blazer, $15 big 5, on sale
2 50 round boxes FMJ .45 ACP, $40 Walmart
2 20 round boxes JHP .45 ACP, $30 internet
10 20 round boxes of wolf 7.62x39, $60 internet
=$990


Where are you finding these deals? Craigslist? Yardsales?


Link Posted: 3/15/2011 4:03:17 PM EST
[Last Edit: 3/15/2011 4:03:55 PM EST by Progun1911]
Marlin 1895G 45/70 for hunting and defense (first repeating assault rifle) $500.00
and a Rem 870 ? or a pistol of your choosing for $500.00.
Link Posted: 3/15/2011 4:21:25 PM EST
Originally Posted By WAMJR:
Is this a Guns America commercial?


No. I'm in Canada. I can't even buy a gun from them. But they're an example of a place where one can find used guns.

There are other places too.

And just so you know, I bought my High Standard shotgun from a guy on a Canadian gun site. (Canadiangunnutz.com)

I bought one of my Husqvarna rifles at Trade Ex Canada. And the other I got at a gunshow.

Bargains are where you find them. Now let us all know where you found your shooting bargains.

Link Posted: 3/15/2011 5:26:02 PM EST

Originally Posted By die-tryin:
thread title fail.

Batteries;



Arsenal;

http://cdn5.thefirearmsblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/img265-273-foto828vx8.jpg


Technically those are cells (D cells to be specific)
Link Posted: 3/16/2011 6:15:03 AM EST
bumping this for the day crew, want to see if there is any interesting setups out there.
Link Posted: 3/16/2011 6:24:28 AM EST
Glock 19 and a cheap AK or AR.
Link Posted: 3/16/2011 6:27:54 AM EST
Glock 17, and a 870.
Link Posted: 3/16/2011 6:29:53 AM EST
Originally Posted By FluffyTheCat:

Suppose you do not own any guns. But you have $1000 you can spend. You want to build a respectable battery. You want a pistol and and a rifle for self defense. You would also like to have a decent hunting rifle and a shotgun. You can use the shotgun for hunting and also for defense.

Here's what I might do:

Over at Guns America, there are surplus Israeli police CZ-75 pistols. These guns were apparently made in 1992. The price is $350.

The SKS is a reasonably effective, semi auto rifle that would be well suited for self defense. You can buy a Yugo SKS over at Guns America for $230. I don't know about you, but I would not feel too happy about getting into a fight with a determined man equipped with a 10 shot semi auto 7.62x39mm.

Now as for a shotgun, how about a High Standard Model 20 in 12 guage? These are solid, reliable, all steel, smooth pump action shotguns. You can get one for about 150 to 160 bucks.

Finally,that leaves us with a hunting rifle. I would pick a Husqvarna Model 640 in 8mm Mauser or .30-06. You can usually find one for about $350. There's one over at Guns America for $350 and it includes a 4 power scope.

So there you have it––the 1000 dollar home arsenal.

Please share your ideas. There are lots of folks who need to arm themselves on a budget.


You officially have $1000 worth of clubs to beat someone with because you don't have any money for ammo.

If all i had to spend was $1000 to defend my house/food/etc i would buy an AR15 and as much ammo as i could afford. It will defend you, it will feed you, and will run pretty much forever.
Link Posted: 3/16/2011 6:35:58 AM EST
Tag
Link Posted: 3/16/2011 6:42:16 AM EST
I'm pretty sure a 12 gauge slug can take down large N. American game. Go with some badass sabot slugs if you need more accuracy.

I'd limit myself to a good reliable shotgun, and a pistol...spending $600 total on both combined. Then, I'd drop at least $200 on ammo.

That should leave $200 for your next gun...save up and get a nice rifle then...either an AR or something else semi-auto.

The bolt action can wait...to do it justice, you'll want a good scope...which will eat up your budget fast.
Link Posted: 3/16/2011 6:47:30 AM EST
Stag kit on an inexpensive lower and a police-trade in pistol such as a Gen2 Glock, Beretta, or 3rd Gen S&W.

Put a sling on the rifle, get an Uncle Mike's kydex holster for the pistol, and if you have an $$ left over, a Primary Arms red dot.
Link Posted: 3/16/2011 6:50:48 AM EST
Nothing wrong with the $350 CZ 75. I got one, good shooter and it doesn't feel like you're shooting a brick.
Link Posted: 3/16/2011 7:09:00 AM EST
Drop one of the rifles and buy ammo. Guns need ammo.
Link Posted: 3/16/2011 7:42:08 AM EST
Here's how I'd do it.

Pistol: Used S&W 5906 - $300
Rifle: AMD65 - $350
Shotgun: Remington 870 - $300

I see no reason why the AMD can't be used for hunting, it's perfectly capable of bringing down deer sized game out to 150 yards, but if not then go over budget by a few bucks and add a Mosin to the list.
Link Posted: 3/16/2011 8:21:04 AM EST
9mm Glock and AK type rifle.

Spend the rest on ammo.
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