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Posted: 11/28/2007 1:21:58 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/28/2007 1:21:58 PM EDT
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They've seen Robocop too many times.
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Posted: 11/28/2007 1:22:21 PM EDT
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 ............IBTLETA.My first, First IBTL!!!!!! |
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Posted: 11/28/2007 1:23:39 PM EDT
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What gun is thar Pacino is holding?
 
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Posted: 11/28/2007 1:24:48 PM EDT
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I've never heard a cop call citizens "civilians"
Now what about military AND LE? |
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Posted: 11/28/2007 1:25:24 PM EDT
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Because many seem not to realize that they are also civilians.
However, most probably just use it because it is an easy way to refer to people who aren't cops. You may not agree with their definition of civilian, but it makes it clear who they are talking about. |
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Posted: 11/28/2007 1:25:45 PM EDT
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they are gods you lowly civie..
< runs to get popcorn .. > they think they are better then you and me. Plain and simple. |
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Posted: 11/28/2007 1:25:47 PM EDT
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Because they're totally hip and have all that full auto shit. |
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Posted: 11/28/2007 1:25:48 PM EDT
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who cares
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Posted: 11/28/2007 1:26:36 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/28/2007 1:31:09 PM EDT
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What is the moral difference, if any, between a Citizen and a Civilian?
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Posted: 11/28/2007 1:33:26 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/28/2007 1:33:47 PM EDT
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if I were a cop I'd go to gun shows and go from table to table referring to all non-LE as 'civies"
"you civies don't get the real firepower like we LEOs get, huh?" 
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Posted: 11/28/2007 1:35:08 PM EDT
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A Citizen has the moral responsibility to protect the body politic by serving. A civilian does not... |
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Posted: 11/28/2007 1:35:10 PM EDT
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Stop oppressing me!! Seriously who cares? I know about a billion cops and I've never heard them call anyone a civilian. Some of you guys just worry about dumb stuff. So let's say the secret code word goes out and the police leap up ready to round us up and ship us off in cattle cars to those secret UN indoctrination centers located under every Wal mart. So what? There are 44 police officers in my town of about 18,000. That's one cop for every 409 people. Even assuming 3/4's of those are women, children and guy's too hung over to fight, that's still 100 guys-okay 40% are Democrats so that's still 60 guys with rifles, plus the one rogue cop is probably going to shoot himself to avoid having to listen to the blathering of the 40 Democrats he rounds up first thing. |
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Posted: 11/28/2007 1:37:03 PM EDT
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I always refer to myself as "civilian law enforcement". I was a soldier; I know the difference. |
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Posted: 11/28/2007 1:37:08 PM EDT
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In the 80's, there was a name the stoners had for non-tokers... Reds. At least at my H.S.
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Posted: 11/28/2007 1:38:14 PM EDT
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 I would totally do that if it weren't for that thing about impersonating a law enforcement officer being illegal. |
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Posted: 11/28/2007 1:42:30 PM EDT
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Because cops are not civilians.
ci·vil·ian /sɪˈvɪlyən/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[si-vil-yuhn] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation –noun 1. a person who is not on active duty with a military, naval, police, or fire fighting organization. 2. Informal. anyone regarded by members of a profession, interest group, society, etc., as not belonging; nonprofessional; outsider: We need a producer to run the movie studio, not some civilian from the business world. 3. a person versed in or studying Roman or civil law. –adjective 4. of, pertaining to, formed by, or administered by civilians |
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Posted: 11/28/2007 1:51:22 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/28/2007 1:54:36 PM EDT
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What about the fed's? What do they get to call me, besides 'Guilty'...or...'Stud'?
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Posted: 11/28/2007 1:55:55 PM EDT
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They have cool sunglasses.
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Posted: 11/28/2007 1:56:01 PM EDT
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cuz we refer to them as bacon
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Posted: 11/28/2007 2:00:41 PM EDT
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I posted this before but can't find it, basically I
-don't get drunk -don't drive like a moron -don't hang around in bars -don't hang around in strip clubs -don't hang around in crack houses -don't hang around with criminals -don't hang around with complete idiots -don't have sex with girls married to cops -don't have sex with girls who have had sex with cops in the past -don't have sex with girls who are cops, and -am home and usually asleep from about 9 or 10pm until somewhere between 5 and 7 am Because of this I really don't have much of an opportunity to mix it up with police officers. There are plenty of obnoxious dumbasses out there for them to "oppress" without bothering with me. |
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Posted: 11/28/2007 2:02:53 PM EDT
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I've never used the term like that before. I've never said "Citizens, please stand back" or something totally ghey like that. Now, I've jumped in someone's stuff if they cross CLEARLY MARKED barriers such as tape barriers, etc. At that point, they have no right to come into an area marked off. I've still never looked at it as a police vs citizens thing, anyway. You know its really us vs all of you
But as mentioned above, according to the technical definition we aren't. Neither are firefighters.....how come this thread wasn't titled "Why aren't firefighters considered civilians?" I've heard that used more by VOLUNTEER firefighters than anything else, not even the full time guys use it. These are the volunteer guys that also have more strobes and LED lights on their personal vehicles than I have in my Crown Vic. They fill in a hole that's needed in society, but damn. Not all of them, but you all know the ones I am talking about. |
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Posted: 11/28/2007 2:07:14 PM EDT
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Contrary to popular belief, I rarely hear the word civilian used (been a LEO for 12 years). Now, “Maggot – Scrot – Fuzz Nutt – Yard Weasel – Mouth Breather”…………that’s another story.........
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Posted: 11/28/2007 2:07:48 PM EDT
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Oh for fucks sake. We use it as a term to basically say non LE personnel. That's it nothing more.
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Posted: 11/28/2007 2:10:19 PM EDT
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But why can't we be citizens? I want to be called a citizen. |
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Posted: 11/28/2007 2:10:21 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/28/2007 2:11:10 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/28/2007 2:17:51 PM EDT
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Venture across the street to the Brothers of the Shield Forum. Hell, just do a search on the forum and see how many hits you find for 'civilian'. If that bullshit didn't float to the top of the active topics forum, I would never see it, or comment about it. I have eye witnessed local command staff give verbal warnings to officers when they refer to the public as 'civilian' because it does fester the 'them vs us' mentality. People vote. They elect the Sheriff, and they elect the Mayor, who hires the Police chief. Impression is everything and in this world of political correctness facism, that is a word I would like to see become a hot button for these folks, kinda like many other famous inflamatory words that are banned ON THIS SITE. LEOs calling the general public 'civilians' offends me much more than this site's banned words, so you must ban the use of the word civilian in that context!  Hell, what will it take, a picture of some civilian toilet paper??? 
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Posted: 11/28/2007 2:18:01 PM EDT
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Can't - my mini 14 jammed.
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Posted: 11/28/2007 2:18:33 PM EDT
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This is worth a second post. I can't fucking believe I got that in before the lock.
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Posted: 11/28/2007 2:24:23 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/28/2007 2:27:01 PM EDT
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More people getting butt-hurt over this than their first visit to a bathhouse
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Posted: 11/28/2007 2:27:16 PM EDT
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You know, I don't think it means the same thing to them that it does to you
 Yeah, it is still an "us vs them" mindset, but IMO it is more about training, experience, licensing and the joys of being "on duty" When they are TRYING to be derogatory they use words like "turd" |
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Posted: 11/28/2007 2:37:20 PM EDT
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What else do you want non-emergency responders to be called then?
As a firefighter, we often refer to those who are not directly involved with addressing the particular incident as "civilians". Its not meant as an insult, or to say we are "military" or some such BS, its simply an easy and quick way of adressing those who arent supposed to be involved with dealing with an emergency. Sorry if that makes your wee-wee hurt. Btw I thought arfcommers hated PC bullcrap like this? I mean we all want freedom of speech and the ability to insult the ROP and the ME without regard to anyones feelings, but God forbid someone who isnt actually in the military call us a "civilian".  ETA Oh and after reading the thread I guess we should all start saying "citizens" instead. Least we insult an arfcommer. Or is that too degrading as well I guess I should add I have never called someone a civilian to thier face, or seen anyone else do that. Usually its used on the radio or in command to try and be clear and consise. aka "Could we have LE make sure that no civilians enter south street?" etc |
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Posted: 11/28/2007 2:38:06 PM EDT
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The exact words of the text. But do you believe it? Do you feel it? |
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Posted: 11/28/2007 2:50:20 PM EDT
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Fixt ETA: Yeah, that made my wee-wee hurt |
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Posted: 11/28/2007 2:52:42 PM EDT
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That about sums it up! Of course we could discuss why Webster is incorrect. |
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Posted: 11/28/2007 2:57:56 PM EDT
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That is f'in wonderful. |
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Posted: 11/28/2007 3:00:04 PM EDT
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SOP for these threads is to go find the dictionary definition that does not include the police in its definition. There is also some bit about you have to be subject to the UCMJ that gets touted. I don't see how it matters one way or the other. |
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Posted: 11/28/2007 3:06:10 PM EDT
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It's not militrization.
It's not us vs them. It's ARF.com members with their panties in a bunch. Not every one is a citizen, yet everyone is a civilian. Including the police. Oh and those firemen, EMS, nurses and doc's also refer to you as civilians. |
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Posted: 11/28/2007 3:06:41 PM EDT
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I call everyone who stumbles onto my construction site a civilian if they aint a trade
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Posted: 11/28/2007 3:11:34 PM EDT
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Around here, it's "citizen," as in "A citizen approached and said that . . . ."
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Posted: 11/28/2007 3:20:55 PM EDT
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Official report writing. You know in real life all the cops sit around eating doughnuts, plotting to take the civilians weapons and ship them off to internment camps. |
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Posted: 11/28/2007 10:58:58 PM EDT
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Because they know that some poor slob with nothing better to do than get his knickers in a wad over it will get his knickers in a wad over it.
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Posted: 11/28/2007 11:04:05 PM EDT
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With shit like this caught on tape it's hard for them to deny it any more. VIDEO LINK |
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Posted: 11/28/2007 11:09:37 PM EDT
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tag for LULZ
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Posted: 11/28/2007 11:12:30 PM EDT
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LOL, are you not a civilian?
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