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Posted: 4/19/2016 9:07:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/19/2016 9:25:24 PM EDT by AR45fan]
What's the point?



ETA: For the AR impaired:

Link Posted: 4/19/2016 9:08:36 PM EDT
Because round wheels suck
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 9:09:48 PM EDT
Most people who buy that rifle will leave it exactly as it comes from the factory.
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 9:12:09 PM EDT
Because Ruger has to be different and "innovative"
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 9:13:55 PM EDT
Because 99% of people buying one wouldn't know that to begin with and the 1% that does will buy something else or build their own so it's totally irrelevant.
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 9:14:31 PM EDT
Originally Posted By AR45fan:
What's the point?

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Well, QD mount for sure. Plus I believe there is no more having to pin the FSB through the barrel like previous versions.
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 9:15:07 PM EDT
Cuz you touch yourself at night.

That's why.
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 9:15:14 PM EDT
Just be glad they at least use standard AR mags....
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 9:15:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/19/2016 9:16:05 PM EDT by CFletch]
With the included QD sling swivel it's actually better than your normal FSB. Other than that it looks like they just modified the design for extra strength and easier machining.
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 9:15:28 PM EDT
That way, the "point" won't be very big...
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 9:15:32 PM EDT
My guess is that it makes them more money, somehow. Cheaper part, cheaper to assemble, something...
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 9:20:46 PM EDT


America. That's why.
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 9:22:03 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Jason280:
Just be glad they at least use standard AR mags....
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And has sights that are adjustable
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 9:26:43 PM EDT
They should have made it use Mini14 mags.
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 9:28:12 PM EDT
They always change the looks of the guns they copy. I guess they didn't realize they had to do that with the AR.

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Link Posted: 4/19/2016 9:28:19 PM EDT
They needed more square inches to engrave warnings?

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Link Posted: 4/19/2016 9:29:29 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Sputnik556:
They should have made it use Mini14 mags.
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The outrage would have been worth it.
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 9:29:58 PM EDT
The distance between the flash hider and the bayonet lug on that rifle is too long to mount a standard bayonet (it would wobble on the barrel). The fix for this would be a flash hider that telescopes back over the barrel, or a shortened barrel and pinned long flash hider.

This is not the only rifle that has this quirk. They have bayonet lugs that are for show only, because they are unusable.
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 9:32:37 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By nick89302:
They always change the looks of the guns they copy. I guess they didn't realize they had to do that with the AR.

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Exactly. Ruger's R&D department is a stack of Guns & Ammo and American Rifleman.
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 9:34:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/19/2016 9:40:13 PM EDT by AR45fan]
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Originally Posted By AlexanderA:
The distance between the flash hider and the bayonet lug on that rifle is too long to mount a standard bayonet (it would wobble on the barrel). The fix for this would be a flash hider that telescopes back over the barrel, or a shortened barrel and pinned long flash hider.

This is not the only rifle that has this quirk. They have bayonet lugs that are for show only, because they are unusable.
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Right, except rifles that use standard pre-ban FSB make some kind of sense - standard FSB and their tooling already exist. But Ruger designed a brand new FSB for mounting on 16" street-legal carbines, and decided to include a bayonet lug.

Are they counting on military contracts? Will Ruger be selling 14.5" NFA rifles?



Link Posted: 4/19/2016 9:34:17 PM EDT
I bet $100 Daniel Defense is making that front sight.
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 9:35:31 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Sputnik556:
They should have made it use Mini14 mags.
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Link Posted: 4/19/2016 9:39:08 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By southfloridaguns:
I bet $100 Daniel Defense is making that front sight.
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The DD fans in the other sections of this site are literally puking their own balls out of their mouths at the sight of the FSBs. Like they are the antichrist of FSB and now they can't finish their 23rd MK18 clone.
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 9:39:55 PM EDT
barrel definitely needs slip over m203 cuts
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 9:47:27 PM EDT
I think it is an interesting design and if it was on a "high end" rifle a lot of people would think it was really tacticool.
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 9:58:50 PM EDT
What about the delta ring screwing back instead of spring loaded?
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 10:05:05 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By southfloridaguns:
I bet $100 Daniel Defense is making that front sight.
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It does look incredibly similar to my DD front sight.

As for the screw down delta ring, I think that's pretty fucking cool too. Not that any of my rifles have delta rings.
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 10:09:39 PM EDT
Ruger is a casting company that makes guns.
They cast everything for everyone, including golf clubs.

I bet it's because they could cast that thing vs a normal FSB having to be forged.

Kharn
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 10:10:26 PM EDT
What's the point?
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In America, people have the right to build shit without asking you first... it's called freedom.
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 10:12:13 PM EDT
Ruger owns Pine Tree Castings and cast a lot of their gun parts out of cheap aluminum.
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 10:16:36 PM EDT
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 10:27:04 PM EDT
Call me crazy but I like both the Ruger FSB and the Daniel Defemse FSB.

Link Posted: 4/19/2016 11:13:57 PM EDT
because modernisms ?
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 11:17:24 PM EDT
Because bayo lugs are not on neutered rifles. No ban, you get lugs, even if they are silly and in the wrong place.
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 11:18:16 PM EDT
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 11:18:49 PM EDT
At least they got rid of the stupid 203 cut

Yet they kept the stupid carbine gas

And the govt profile barrel

Fail.
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 11:19:59 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By southerncross:
Call me crazy but I like both the Ruger FSB and the Daniel Defemse FSB.

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You're crazy.
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 11:21:58 PM EDT
I'm guessing that the only reason that companies even bother to put bayonet lugs on 95% of their rifles (other than military contracts) is because they were one of the banned features, and they don't want to be accused of caving to the antis.
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 11:24:11 PM EDT
Is it forged, billet, or cast? Could be the fanboy future.
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 11:30:45 PM EDT
whats a "FSB" ?
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 11:32:19 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By mjrowley:
whats a "FSB" ?
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Fantastic story bro.
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 11:38:42 PM EDT
Maybe they're also going to use it on a middy version...
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 11:39:42 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By GreenBastard:

Fantastic story bro.
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Originally Posted By GreenBastard:
Originally Posted By mjrowley:
whats a "FSB" ?

Fantastic story bro.



Indeed
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 11:42:01 PM EDT
I for one love the look of the ruger FSB. If I could buy one separately I would switch my FSB out for it.
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 11:43:33 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By AJE:
I think the funnier thing is they put it on a carbine length system on a 16" barrel so it doesn't line up right.
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What?!?


Link Posted: 4/19/2016 11:45:24 PM EDT
Would a mid-length gas system push the FSB out enough for the bayonet to mount properly? Assuming a switch to mil-type birdcage. Maybe they are planning for a future longer gas system. I still think if they had released this gun as a mid-length it would have been an even bigger hit.
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 11:45:56 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By nate_the_great:


The outrage would have been worth it.
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Originally Posted By nate_the_great:
Originally Posted By Sputnik556:
They should have made it use Mini14 mags.


The outrage would have been worth it.


Ruger could have had an epic April Fool's if they had made an announcement all AR's would switch to mini 14 mags going forward.
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 11:49:44 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By mike_nds:
They are saving money using a cast FSB that is made in house.


If it didn't have a bayonet lug you guys would have a hissy fit over that also.
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Precisely this.
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 11:54:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/19/2016 11:57:07 PM EDT by www-glock19-com]
the taper pins are on the top and not bottom of the barrel , that's way weirder than just having a bayo lug

Not really a big deal if ya wanna put a clamp on gas block

But I was really WTF when we got the first batch of these things in
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 11:59:24 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By mjrowley:
whats a "FSB" ?
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Fire Support Base

or......

Forward Support Battalion (prior to them becoming "Brigade Support Battalions").


Link Posted: 4/20/2016 12:14:25 AM EDT
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