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Posted: 1/8/2020 3:43:58 PM EDT
Ok, heres the challenge. 15 yard headshot. Cold from concealment.
You can use steel or a paper target, pie plate, etc. No timer needed. Just do it! Only the first shot counts but you can of course do more.  8" steel at 15 yards from concealment. |
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Posted: 1/8/2020 3:44:33 PM EDT
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Boom, headshot!
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Posted: 1/8/2020 3:47:18 PM EDT
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Yikes at that shooting spot..
Are you not concerned with richochets? |
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Posted: 1/8/2020 3:47:22 PM EDT
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Shit. Do you know how long it would take me to find a pistol, the right mag, a few rounds and a holster?
Me neither. But long enough that it's faster to call the county sheriff and see if he can get here to help me look. |
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Posted: 1/8/2020 3:49:19 PM EDT
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That's pretty damn easy, and something I do every time I'm at a range with a carry gun - and much faster.
Now, doing it with real stakes and an active shooter? Different story, and I remain damn impressed with Jack Wilson for pulling it off so beautifully. |
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Posted: 1/8/2020 3:49:27 PM EDT
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i mean its all well and good, but think for 99% of the threats out there including that one that a mag dump to the body would do just fine.
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Posted: 1/8/2020 3:49:44 PM EDT
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Yikes at that shooting spot.. Are you not concerned with richochets? I hope. 
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Posted: 1/8/2020 3:51:05 PM EDT
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Yikes at that shooting spot.. Are you not concerned with richochets? |
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Posted: 1/8/2020 3:53:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hanging correctly, all the pistol bullets should pretty much hit the ground straight below the plate. Neat place to pick up fired boolits.
I need to shoot/practice/train more. 
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Posted: 1/8/2020 3:54:30 PM EDT
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OP seems level headed. Its probably just a bad camera angle. I hope. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yikes at that shooting spot.. Are you not concerned with richochets? I hope.
Ive never been hit there but ive been hit at uspsa matches and indoor ranges. |
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Posted: 1/8/2020 3:56:19 PM EDT
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That's pretty damn easy, and something I do every time I'm at a range with a carry gun - and much faster. Now, doing it with real stakes and an active shooter? Different story, and I remain damn impressed with Jack Wilson for pulling it off so beautifully.
I had a hard time clearing them all efficiently Eta, and fwiw everyone always posts an arfcom challenge is easy but then never posts a video. Not saying its a hard shot. I agree that its actually an easy shot. |
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Posted: 1/8/2020 3:57:59 PM EDT
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i mean its all well and good, but think for 99% of the threats out there including that one that a mag dump to the body would do just fine.  12 yards. .357 mag from concealment But we have to prepare for that 1% too |
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Posted: 1/8/2020 4:13:03 PM EDT
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Nice.
What handgun are you using? |
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Posted: 1/8/2020 4:16:57 PM EDT
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Nice. What handgun are you using?  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/8/2020 4:22:20 PM EDT
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So it was only 15 yards huh? Video made it appear further.
I feel pretty confident in my ability to head-shoot at 15. 25, not so much... |
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Posted: 1/8/2020 4:24:53 PM EDT
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Yikes at that shooting spot.. Are you not concerned with richochets? 
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Posted: 1/8/2020 4:29:12 PM EDT
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Do some sprints and some 8-count body builders to get that HR up and get yourself a little jittery and try it.
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Posted: 1/8/2020 4:30:38 PM EDT
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Make it valid only if shooting 357sig.
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Posted: 1/8/2020 4:36:30 PM EDT
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Go for accuracy with a 5.7 mag dump. And, well, in a real situation, a lot of hearing damage.
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Posted: 1/8/2020 4:42:01 PM EDT
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I can do it from the hip. Twice in a row. Yes, there was a witness. After the first shot, he said "I bet you can't do that again". I did.
The more I practice, the luckier I get. 
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Posted: 1/8/2020 4:43:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 2.75" M66-8 shooting 158gr @1250 https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/433221/20191224_131127_HDR_jpg-1226150.JPG |
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Posted: 1/8/2020 4:49:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 2.75" M66-8 shooting 158gr @1250 https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/433221/20191224_131127_HDR_jpg-1226150.JPG Carry one gun and shoot it well. |
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Posted: 1/8/2020 4:51:46 PM EDT
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I have a hilarious video of someone I sort of know. I don't want to dox them so I'll never post it. But man is he mr. joe cool!
Just imagine a guy with an ill fitting and empty tactical vest with one pistol in a holster on the vest and another in some sort of odd drop holster without a band around the thigh. One 9mm and the other 10mm. No ear protection. Shooting both (not at the same time) in rapid double taps at 50 yards. He was using those little 50 yard smallbore rifle targets. And he got every single one of them in the rings. He even sounded disappointed that only 3 were bullseyes. And people were believing him. Beyond the obvious lying, there were more holes in the paper than rounds fired.  
Dude should be in the record books! Or you know, he shot those targets at 5 yards before the video and then dumped a bunch of rounds on video to make it look like it. |
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Posted: 1/8/2020 4:57:49 PM EDT
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So it was only 15 yards huh? Video made it appear further. I feel pretty confident in my ability to head-shoot at 15. 25, not so much... |
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Posted: 1/8/2020 4:59:16 PM EDT
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Make it valid only if shooting 357sig. 
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Posted: 1/8/2020 4:59:19 PM EDT
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Decent shooting with a 2.75".
Are you shooting single action? |
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Posted: 1/8/2020 5:00:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nice gun. Hole plug fits very well. Where did you buy the plug? |
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Posted: 1/8/2020 5:01:14 PM EDT
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Decent shooting with a 2.75". Are you shooting single action? |
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Posted: 1/8/2020 5:05:04 PM EDT
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No. All DA. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Decent shooting with a 2.75". Are you shooting single action? You've shot that pistol a lot, I bet. |
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Posted: 1/8/2020 5:16:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No. All DA. A similar exercise was while shooting, bring the hammer back the same way, concentrating on sight picture, then drop the hammer, effectively shooting single action but starting double action, if that makes sense. This is old boomer non high speed shit, but it seems to help double action shooting, for me at least. |
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Posted: 1/8/2020 5:17:47 PM EDT
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I would like to do this. I have timer on the way. Right now dont have the ability to live fire the drill but dry fire I have a timer on my phone set for 4 seconds which is what I timed from the time the shotgun became visible to the time Wilson broke the shot (roughly). 4 seconds is very manageable. Goal of 2.5 seconds. I wish the indoor range would allow drawing from a holster.
Good shooting OP. |
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Posted: 1/8/2020 5:20:29 PM EDT
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I used to spend hours pulling the trigger on a revolver far enough to move the cylinder fully, but not far enough to drop the hammer. Lower the hammer by letting off the trigger. Do it 100 times strong hand, then 100 times weak hand. If you drop the hammer, start back at one. A similar exercise was while shooting, bring the hammer back the same way, concentrating on sight picture, then drop the hammer, effectively shooting single action but starting double action, if that makes sense. This is old boomer non high speed shit, but it seems to help double action shooting, for me at least. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: No. All DA. A similar exercise was while shooting, bring the hammer back the same way, concentrating on sight picture, then drop the hammer, effectively shooting single action but starting double action, if that makes sense. This is old boomer non high speed shit, but it seems to help double action shooting, for me at least. |
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Posted: 1/8/2020 5:40:04 PM EDT
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Another fun variation, beep - 180 turn - draw - head shot.
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Posted: 1/8/2020 5:40:46 PM EDT
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 Draw/shoot Might not be exactly what you're looking for, but it's the only draw/shoot vid I have. Probably not a full 15 yards. |
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Posted: 1/8/2020 5:46:28 PM EDT
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 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imDE1IUaH7I
Might not be exactly what you're looking for, but it's the only draw/shoot vid I have. Probably not a full 15 yards. Good shooting too 
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Posted: 1/8/2020 5:48:28 PM EDT
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Uhm, that;s not "cold from concealment". At all.
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Posted: 1/8/2020 5:48:33 PM EDT
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Even better. You've shot that pistol a lot, I bet. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Decent shooting with a 2.75". Are you shooting single action? You've shot that pistol a lot, I bet. |
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Posted: 1/8/2020 5:49:40 PM EDT
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Uhm, that;s not "cold from concealment". At all. |
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Posted: 1/8/2020 5:55:29 PM EDT
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I did something similar last weekend. Tried to hit the A head zone on a USPSA target at 15 yards with my pocket carried P365 (among others).
Under 6 seconds was easy, but under 3 seconds got me a lot of bravos. |
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Posted: 1/8/2020 5:58:09 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/8/2020 5:59:54 PM EDT
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Close to 10k rounds since i got it this spring. Mostly .357. A couple uspsa comps and only a few rounds shot SA. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Decent shooting with a 2.75". Are you shooting single action? You've shot that pistol a lot, I bet.
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Posted: 1/8/2020 6:01:24 PM EDT
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That's pretty damn easy, and something I do every time I'm at a range with a carry gun - and much faster. Now, doing it with real stakes and an active shooter? Different story, and I remain damn impressed with Jack Wilson for pulling it off so beautifully. ETA: oh fuck, I agreed with BA, oh well. |
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Posted: 1/8/2020 8:57:56 PM EDT
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Nice idea, OP. I'll have to try this, the next time I'm out.
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Posted: 1/8/2020 9:26:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 2.75" M66-8 shooting 158gr @1250 https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/433221/20191224_131127_HDR_jpg-1226150.JPG |
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Posted: 1/9/2020 11:27:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: At least your shooting. Everyone else just says its to easy. Good shooting too |
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Posted: 1/9/2020 11:39:43 AM EDT
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I've done a couple of these arf shooting challenges lately and it's been good for me, unless you include my ego. I have learned a few things and gotten better though.
I should be able to get out Saturday or Sunday and try to film myself, haven't done that before. I'd like to see a couple of the "it's too easy!" guys put em up too
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imDE1IUaH7I
Might not be exactly what you're looking for, but it's the only draw/shoot vid I have. Probably not a full 15 yards. |
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Posted: 1/15/2020 5:55:25 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/15/2020 5:57:55 PM EDT
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Ok, heres the challenge. 15 yard headshot. Cold from concealment. You can use steel or a paper target, pie plate, etc. No timer needed. Just do it! Only the first shot counts but you can of course do more. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjU40-RIs_A |
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Posted: 1/15/2020 6:52:32 PM EDT
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Did he actually shoot from concealment? Looks like he may have been open-carrying with a holster on a duty belt based on the video.
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Posted: 1/15/2020 7:31:06 PM EDT
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 Active Shooter Security Concepts: Master Class Ep. 15 This popped up in my feed a few days ago. I'm not saying anything he says is wrong, but when you talk about practicing from going "cold", you really can't recreate that. You can physically recreate it, but you never really recreate the mind set. When you sit in church, do you sit there and size people up and think, "any minute some dude is gonna come through that door with a shotgun, and I'm gonna take this position and shoot back" as rivers of sweat bead off your forehead? I mean, you may have a plan in your head, but you are in church, you *should* be listening to your preacher or reverend or whatever you have, and thinking about what he's saying. "Shit maybe I shouldn't have fucked that waitress in 95." Same if you were in a movie theater, you're watching the movie, not pulling an unofficial security detail. So there's gonna be a delay with your brain just trying to figure out what's going on. Was that really a gun shot? Did someone just knock over a shelf of song books? There's this whole interpretation thing that your brain is doing so you don't draw your gun in church and point it at some old lady who just tripped and fell with her walker. Your eyes may see the guy with the gun but your brain may still be trying to absorb that picture. There may be a delay. On the range, you are expecting to shoot. At church, you're not expecting to shoot. I don't have a solution to it. I'm just saying you can practice "cold" but it's not really cold. Your mileage will vary. If you have a solution, I'm open. |
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Posted: 1/15/2020 7:34:13 PM EDT
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That might be more relevant if the person is starting from a sitting position.
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