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Posted: 1/31/2006 9:20:26 AM EDT
IIRC he was never referred to as Ben Kenobi in the first three episodes. Was this his (or shoudl I say George Lucas') lame attempt at changing his name to hide from the Empire?
Empire [on the phone]: Is this Obi Won Kenobi? Obi: Uh, who's calling? Empire: This is the Galactic Empire, we are trying to find Obi Won Kenobi because Darth vader wishes to kill him. Obi: Nope, sorry... this is... uhhhh. BEN, yes Ben Kenobi... no relation. Empire: Alrighty, well, sorry for the mix-up. |
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So I take it a long time ago in a galaxy far far away Kenobi is as common as Jones or Smith and that's why he didn't bother changing his last name too? |
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when he went underground after lopping off Anakin's remaining extremities. Apparently Bin Laden is a Star Wars fan, he's trying the same formula: find cave to hide out in in the middle of a mountainous remote desert filled with sand people and armed midgets in brown robes...
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I just think "Old Ben" was a transmogrification of "Obi Wan."
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If he had changed his name to Juan Valdez then Luke would never have connected the dots that R2D2 was looking for him. |
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Here's a better question for you. At the end of Episode 3 Kenobi was in his early thirties and Luke was just born. In Episode 4 Luke is 18 or 20 and Kenobi is 65-70. So how did Obi-Wan age 30-35 in only 18 to 20 years?
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Tattioine Hookers and Tuskan Blow, obviously |
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Deathsticks are a hell of a drug. |
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www.starwars.com/databank/character/obiwankenobi/
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He was in his 40s, or is supposed to be. |
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What, no Jedi mind trick? |
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ITs not the years, its the miles. |
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"These aren't the Kenobis you're looking for" /waves hand |
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I guess a long time ago in a galaxy far far away men age like Korean women. |
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Or it could be that he was in his late forties in Episode III, not 30 like some have suggested. |
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I like my theory better. |
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IV, V and VI? |
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Or it could be that like most of my students, most 15-20 somethings here have no idea what someone in their 30's 40's or 50's looks like. 30 is fricken ancient to them. You go live in a cave for a while and see how you look after 20yrs. In IV, Ben looks to be in his mid 50s, maybe a little younger. It fits with the story. |
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If in Episode I, Anakin is 5-6, and Obi-Wan is just getting ready to become a Jedi Knight, then that would probably make him at least Mid-20's.
So, 15 years later, when Anakin is old enough to become a Jedi himself, Obi-Wan would be in his 40's. And 20 years later, when Anakin's son is old enough to be a Jedi, Obi-Wan would be in his 60's. Makes sense.... |
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You answered your own question. Episodes, not movies. |
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The first episode released was IV, Star Wars. My only reason for asking is that Luke refers to him as Old Ben Kenobi in the FIRST EPISODE RELEASED. |
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When Luke's uncle referred to Obi-Wan as old Ben Kenobi, uncle already knew who Obi-Wan was. He just tried to cover it up to protect Luke from truth about his father and all that other bullshit.
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Hey... don't get sassy mister sassy pants. When I said first episode I meant chronologically first in the Star Wars time line, not the release time line. I knew he was referred to in the "original" movies (IV, V, VI), but I don't remember anyone ever calling him Ben in I, II, or III. |
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That was why I was asking for clarification. |
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With two suns Tatooine is a place where you don't scrimp on sunblock. Ben might just look older because of the harsh enviroment. |
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20 yrs of stress of hiding from the Empire can age someone real quick.
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Alec Guiness was 63 in Star Wars so if the character was supposed to be in his late 50s it's not that far off I figure Episode 3 obi wan to be around 35-40 so 55-60 in episode 4 isn't far off from the real life age of the actor |
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My thoughts exactly. Chewie seemed to age much more gracefully. In the same vein, did anybody notice in Ep 4 the kid version of Guido(sp?) who Han would later blaster under the table as an adult in the employ of Jabba? |
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Greedo. Greedo shot first. |
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When he simultaneously kicked Chuck Norris' and Jack Bauer's ass, a cheerful bystander yelled "Obi-Wan!"
The local tattoine newspaper reporter heard "oh, Ben won (the fight)" And published his name as "Ben Kenobi" The rest is hisotry. |
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Do you mean Anakin's little buddy in Episode I... the one checking out his pod racer? I don't knwo if they said thwt was actually Greedo... |
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Yes that is the one. They didn't actually say it but I took it to be him cause they look just alike. I got wrapped up in the whole divergent paths of youth thing. A good playmate gone bad. Um actually two good playmates gone bad. |
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Wookies are a much longer lived species, At the time of Episode IV I think he was supposed to be about 200 and barely middle aged. Gredo was the bounty hunter that Han killed in the bar. He was a Rhodian IIRC and Anakin's friend was just another Rhodian. |
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Greedo's in a deleted scene on the dvd, adn is a different rhodian kid than the one anakin was friends with. he was a punk bully |
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Excellent point. |
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The hell you say. Thats only after Lucas fucked it up. Han shot first. And damn good thing, too. |
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