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Posted: 12/2/2007 10:33:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/3/2007 10:09:04 AM EDT by --bullseye--]
This isn't a rip off of any other thread, trust me.

So for you faithful few with the AKs standing guard, what do you have them loaded with?

If I had mine right now (darn university policies), I would have a mag of 122 gr. Wolf Black Box locked in most likely (HP or FMJ, depending on what is cheap and available at the moment) . I've also got a mag on top of the safe with 124 gr. FMJ Golden Tiger for those times when I want to change things up a bit.




124 gr. FMJ Golden Tiger
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 10:34:51 PM EDT
Bear SP 136 gr (I think)
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 10:35:44 PM EDT
Milsurp 5.45. I'd know what it was... but I can't read Russian.
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 10:36:57 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 10:39:59 PM EDT
5.56 in a G3 mag.
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 10:40:29 PM EDT
Lapua mega spire point of course.
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 10:43:22 PM EDT
All my mags are loaded with 125 g SP.
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 10:43:39 PM EDT
I don't have any need for an AK.

Link Posted: 12/2/2007 10:44:01 PM EDT
Banana clips full of bullets!
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 10:44:56 PM EDT
Cor-Bon will soon be selling DPX for the 7.62 by 39.
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 10:45:07 PM EDT
Wolf MC with the Ulyanovsk HP bullet, probably the best terminal ballistics out of the cheap/surplus x39 ammo.
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 10:46:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/2/2007 10:47:47 PM EDT by --bullseye--]

Originally Posted By theBUBBAMANcan:
I don't have any need for an AK.



BLASPHEMER!!!!!!!!







Can you make an AR for $300?

Link Posted: 12/2/2007 10:48:00 PM EDT
Golden Tiger.

Gazing at ordering some Wolf MC. But then I'd need to get more .223 for balance.
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 10:48:49 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Mateba:
Wolf MC with the Ulyanovsk HP bullet, probably the best terminal ballistics out of the cheap/surplus x39 ammo.


That's actually what I have heard. I should pick some up sometime.
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 10:48:55 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:
Milsurp 5.45. I'd know what it was... but I can't read Russian.


Same here....
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 10:49:00 PM EDT
Sweet, AK pics.

Here is mine.

Link Posted: 12/2/2007 10:49:54 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Mateba:
Wolf MC with the Ulyanovsk HP bullet, probably the best terminal ballistics out of the cheap/surplus x39 ammo.


Same.
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 10:51:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/2/2007 10:53:56 PM EDT by Mateba]

Originally Posted By --bullseye--:

Originally Posted By Mateba:
Wolf MC with the Ulyanovsk HP bullet, probably the best terminal ballistics out of the cheap/surplus x39 ammo.


That's actually what I have heard. I should pick some up sometime.


The reloads(?) from Cabelas use the A-Max bullet which should be very good, but they are reloaded from steel cases though

Edit: They are V-max bullets:
www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/product/standard-item.jsp?id=0044050216270a&navCount=1&podId=0044050&parentId=cat20839&masterpathid=&navAction=jump&cmCat=MainCatcat20712-cat20839&catalogCode=IH&rid=&parentType=index&indexId=cat20839&hasJS=true
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 10:51:57 PM EDT
I need a wasr2 for the next project.....mmmm cheap wasr2.

You guys let me know if you find any.

Going to cut the barrel down to 14" or so, push an FSB all the way to the gas block and then perm attach a Krink FH.

Sounds fun.
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 10:53:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/3/2007 10:21:34 AM EDT by killswitch1982]
I don't have an AK but I did build one for my dad when I worked at Vector Arms. I think he either has Bear or Wolf FMJs.


When you build them all day, every day, 10 hrs a day like I did you start to hate them.
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 10:57:21 PM EDT

Originally Posted By killswitch1982:
I don't have an AK but I did build one for my dad when I worked at Vector Arms. I think he either has Bear or Wolf FMJs.


You worked at Vector and don't have an AK......


"That boy ain't right"....
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 10:58:08 PM EDT

Originally Posted By --bullseye--:

Originally Posted By theBUBBAMANcan:
I don't have any need for an AK.



BLASPHEMER!!!!!!!!

i142.photobucket.com/albums/r88/_bullseye_/IMG_0786.jpg

i142.photobucket.com/albums/r88/_bullseye_/IMG_0788.jpg



Can you make an AR for $300?[peep]



Nope, but I've had lots of them over the years and I'm burned out on AK's. To me, they are not that much fun to shoot compared with my M1A, my AR's or my Daewoo, for example...

Althought I can't build a $300 AR, I'd wager that you don't own an AK that can keep up accuracy-wise with any of the above mentioned
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 11:00:29 PM EDT
I bet if you put $1500 or so in an AK....as they do w/ Piston AR's...you could keep up just fine. Most piston AR's don't group as well as DI's.
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 11:01:19 PM EDT
Wolf HP.

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Buried deep in the safe..

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behind my AR w/ mags loaded with $190/ case XM193.
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 11:01:45 PM EDT
Air...
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 11:04:12 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/2/2007 11:04:57 PM EDT by --bullseye--]

Originally Posted By theBUBBAMANcan:

Originally Posted By --bullseye--:

Originally Posted By theBUBBAMANcan:
I don't have any need for an AK.



BLASPHEMER!!!!!!!!

i142.photobucket.com/albums/r88/_bullseye_/IMG_0786.jpg

i142.photobucket.com/albums/r88/_bullseye_/IMG_0788.jpg



Can you make an AR for $300?[peep]



Nope, but I've had lots of them over the years and I'm burned out on AK's. To me, they are not that much fun to shoot compared with my M1A, my AR's or my Daewoo, for example...

Althought I can't build a $300 AR, I'd wager that you don't own an AK that can keep up accuracy-wise with any of the above mentioned


Why do you think the AK was designed with a 30 round mag? Accuracy by volume.



And while I don't own one, my brother's 5.45 AK is no slouch when it comes to accuracy. Not as good as the aforementioned weapons, but better than 7.62 AKs. And remember that accuracy is related to ammo as well. All most everyone shoots is steel case imported blasting ammo, not brass case nice stuff. Shoot some Wolf out of your AR or M1A and report back. It'll still be better than an AK, but not by as much.

YMMV

Link Posted: 12/2/2007 11:04:47 PM EDT
Yup.. Golden Tiger .. just got good deals from Ammoman , great service too
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 11:04:57 PM EDT

Originally Posted By theBUBBAMANcan:

Originally Posted By --bullseye--:

Originally Posted By theBUBBAMANcan:
I don't have any need for an AK.



BLASPHEMER!!!!!!!!

i142.photobucket.com/albums/r88/_bullseye_/IMG_0786.jpg

i142.photobucket.com/albums/r88/_bullseye_/IMG_0788.jpg



Can you make an AR for $300?[peep]



Nope, but I've had lots of them over the years and I'm burned out on AK's. To me, they are not that much fun to shoot compared with my M1A, my AR's or my Daewoo, for example...

Althought I can't build a $300 AR, I'd wager that you don't own an AK that can keep up accuracy-wise with any of the above mentioned

Yes, I built this one for $365:


And I have another upper for a cav arms lower that I will be into for a complete one for $295
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 11:07:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/2/2007 11:07:37 PM EDT by --bullseye--]

Originally Posted By justinwb:

Originally Posted By theBUBBAMANcan:

Originally Posted By --bullseye--:

Originally Posted By theBUBBAMANcan:
I don't have any need for an AK.



BLASPHEMER!!!!!!!!

i142.photobucket.com/albums/r88/_bullseye_/IMG_0786.jpg

i142.photobucket.com/albums/r88/_bullseye_/IMG_0788.jpg



Can you make an AR for $300?[peep]



Nope, but I've had lots of them over the years and I'm burned out on AK's. To me, they are not that much fun to shoot compared with my M1A, my AR's or my Daewoo, for example...

Althought I can't build a $300 AR, I'd wager that you don't own an AK that can keep up accuracy-wise with any of the above mentioned

Yes, I built this one for $365:
a347.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/27/l_f6c5b5be258cf43bf9399b846af00222.jpg

And I have another upper for a cav arms lower that I will be into for a complete one for $295


I'd be willing to wager that there are people around here who have built AKs for under $150. If you bend your own flats and bought parts kits when they were cheap all it takes is a little work...
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 11:10:35 PM EDT

Originally Posted By --bullseye--:

Originally Posted By justinwb:

Originally Posted By theBUBBAMANcan:

Originally Posted By --bullseye--:

Originally Posted By theBUBBAMANcan:
I don't have any need for an AK.



BLASPHEMER!!!!!!!!

i142.photobucket.com/albums/r88/_bullseye_/IMG_0786.jpg

i142.photobucket.com/albums/r88/_bullseye_/IMG_0788.jpg



Can you make an AR for $300?[peep]



Nope, but I've had lots of them over the years and I'm burned out on AK's. To me, they are not that much fun to shoot compared with my M1A, my AR's or my Daewoo, for example...

Althought I can't build a $300 AR, I'd wager that you don't own an AK that can keep up accuracy-wise with any of the above mentioned

Yes, I built this one for $365:
a347.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/27/l_f6c5b5be258cf43bf9399b846af00222.jpg

And I have another upper for a cav arms lower that I will be into for a complete one for $295


I'd be willing to wager that there are people around here who have built AKs for under $150. If you bend your own flats and bought parts kits when they were cheap all it takes is a little work...


I bet in most cases folks are batting at closer to $200-$250 with a hundred dollar kit. The US parts, rivets, etc.
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 11:12:24 PM EDT

Originally Posted By --bullseye--:

Originally Posted By theBUBBAMANcan:

Originally Posted By --bullseye--:

Originally Posted By theBUBBAMANcan:
I don't have any need for an AK.



BLASPHEMER!!!!!!!!

i142.photobucket.com/albums/r88/_bullseye_/IMG_0786.jpg

i142.photobucket.com/albums/r88/_bullseye_/IMG_0788.jpg



Can you make an AR for $300?[peep]



Nope, but I've had lots of them over the years and I'm burned out on AK's. To me, they are not that much fun to shoot compared with my M1A, my AR's or my Daewoo, for example...

Althought I can't build a $300 AR, I'd wager that you don't own an AK that can keep up accuracy-wise with any of the above mentioned


Why do you think the AK was designed with a 30 round mag? Accuracy by volume.



And while I don't own one, my brother's 5.45 AK is no slouch when it comes to accuracy. Not as good as the aforementioned weapons, but better than 7.62 AKs. And remember that accuracy is related to ammo as well. All most everyone shoots is steel case imported blasting ammo, not brass case nice stuff. Shoot some Wolf out of your AR or M1A and report back. It'll still be better than an AK, but not by as much.

YMMV



The best AK I ever had was a preban Yugo underfolder...beautifully built and very good accuracy for an AK. I used to shoot it with Chinese ammo, brass cased.

I have never owned a 5.45 but I did get to shoot a buddies and it was very good for an AK.

The only way I'd ever own another AK would be if I could replace the Yugo...it was a casualty of my divorce. I just don't care for the short stocks, crappy ergonomics, etc. I get fewer opportunities to shoot now that I'm married with kids, so when I do get to the range I want accuracy. I use good ammo fired through accurate rifles.

A "real" AK would be cool to have...because the AK was meant to be full auto and is excellent in that role. Accuracy was not on the priority list when the AK was designed.

Link Posted: 12/2/2007 11:38:51 PM EDT
Norinco Steel Core of course.

Link Posted: 12/2/2007 11:44:09 PM EDT
Some German shit.........
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 11:45:25 PM EDT
Wolf...can't remember which flavor though. Black box for sure this time, shot up all the MC over thanksgiving
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 11:50:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/2/2007 11:51:23 PM EDT by Mak]
Link Posted: 12/3/2007 12:02:09 AM EDT
For my SAR-2, I have two mags of Barnaul 5.45 fmj handy.
Link Posted: 12/3/2007 12:09:00 AM EDT
M193 55gr. FMJ

It's a SAR-3!
Link Posted: 12/3/2007 12:23:08 AM EDT
WOLF.

It's sitting in the corner of the room, nice to see I'm not the only one who keeps an AK handy.
Link Posted: 12/3/2007 12:31:34 AM EDT
I believe 2.67x39mm?at least that is what i was tolld.it shoots so i must be good.
Link Posted: 12/3/2007 12:34:25 AM EDT

Originally Posted By helmutlent:
I believe 2.67x39mm?at least that is what i was tolld.it shoots so i must be good.

Try 5.45 you cant get that one backwards.
Link Posted: 12/3/2007 12:41:26 AM EDT
I probably could with all these strange metric calibers
Link Posted: 12/3/2007 2:55:22 AM EDT
Wolf black box FMJ. The old school stuff with the lacquer on the case.
Link Posted: 12/3/2007 3:09:38 AM EDT
Wolf Military Classic FMJ in 40rnd magazine
Link Posted: 12/3/2007 3:20:28 AM EDT
Typical Wolf 123 JHPs - although I'd have to reach past the FAL to get it out of the safe...

- georgestrings
Link Posted: 12/3/2007 3:36:25 AM EDT
Either black box Wolf, or the MC Wolf, I can't remember w/o looking in the mag.
Link Posted: 12/3/2007 3:37:36 AM EDT
I don't have an AK.

I lost it.
Link Posted: 12/3/2007 3:46:47 AM EDT
The AK rifle was designed to use cheap steel cased ammo.
Mine has some 122gr FMJ Wolf Black Box purchased around '03.
Link Posted: 12/3/2007 9:01:02 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/3/2007 9:01:08 AM EDT by --bullseye--]

Originally Posted By -Apocalypto-:
Wolf Military Classic FMJ in 40rnd magazine


I just picked up 3 of those. Got some Russian Molot arsenal RPK mags.

Might be my new first line AK mag. Who knows, I might load 'em up with some 123 gr. Silver Bear hollow points just to be different.

I think with an AK it's not as much about bullet performance as it is about putting holes in things. You can punch through most everything you'd commonly find, and you can do it a lot. "Keep pulling the trigger until they don't get up anymore."

Link Posted: 12/3/2007 9:04:12 AM EDT
Good old fashion Wolf..



Link Posted: 12/3/2007 9:24:55 AM EDT
125gr Barnaul softpoint (for deer season).
Link Posted: 12/3/2007 9:27:29 AM EDT
124gr Winchester FMJ and 124gr Barnaul Silver Bear soft points, alternating.
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