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Posted: 1/23/2006 7:46:41 AM EDT
I do tactical carbine and IDPA.
poll coming - multiple answers OK. |
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I wish I had time. I am hoping that once I get done with my house, sell it, move in to a new one, and get that settled, I'll be able to compete on weekends. Maybe 2008 if I'm lucky. |
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I do international shooting competitions all the time. I want to do High power and small bore, but I will have to wait until after Collegiate Nationals.
ETA: mine is all precision pistol. |
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Sporting Clays and IHMSA Big Bore, Small Bore, and Air Pistol.
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I also "forgot" cowboy action. And Schuetzen. And air rifle. And silouette. And blackpower. And ..... |
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3 gun
IDPA NTI IPSC PPC Bianchi Cup SWAT Challenge ...when I have time, that is, when I'm not in court, called-out, training, teaching, working, chewing out some rookie etc. Sheep |
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I use to shoot steel plates. They closed the place down and I have not competed since.
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I shoot as regularly as I can in rifle, pistol and shotgun matches. I'm very weak in Precision rifle but plan to try to enter in those shoot as well.
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ipsc and 3gun - monthly
i would do precision rifle matches if they had them around here |
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I Love USPSA IPSC
I quit IDPA because of all the chickenshit rules. I like to shoot Steel plates too. |
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I shoot some HP at Charlotte and I am a member of a local C&R club and we shoot at Leeds, Indian Creek and Manchester near Sumter. Mostly just for fun and comradeship. We have a shoot this weekend as a matter of fact. We call it the Winter War shoot in honer of the Finnish/Russian war.
Garandman you need to join us sometimes.. |
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We got a tactical carbine match in Aiken Feb 25. See the Georgia Forum. Please email me about your Sumpter shoot. Sounds interesting. Don't beleive I've ever commemorated the Finnish / Russian war. Why aren't there any good shoots in the upstate? If I could find a location, I'd host them. |
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I used to shoot 3p smallbore, but I coach more than I shoot now.
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my biggest gripe about IDPA is how they want you to engage targets from left to right, one shot at a time. |
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Any and ALL of the 2/3 gun matches here in the PHOENIX area! Mostly the RIO SALADO matches lately!
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I recently started shooting IDPA. The club that I'm shooting with also holds quarterly 3 gun matches, and I plan on participating in those as well.
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Practical Rifle once a month. All I have time for right now!
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left to right only...WTF?! we shoot tactical order, but obviously that depends on which side you're slicing the pie from. haven't heard of this in IDPA (left to right that is) makes more sense than tactical reloads...which our R.O. did away with, seeing as how it's doubtful that anyone is not going to shoot to slidelock (us civvies anyway). |
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I need to make one of those. |
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That's not the way we shoot IDPA. We DO engage in tactical order / tactical sequence, which all seems very sensible to me. If all targets are equal distance, yer gonna be dead if you double tap each target as you come to it. "Everyone gets served before ANYONE gets seconds." Working from near to far, double taps are HIGHLY encouraged. Far as right to left, that's only if you are behind cover, and "slicing the pie" from the right hand side of cover. I do think the rule against tactical reloads is stupid. If EVER I'm using my pistol in defense, if I survive until the time to reload, I'm dumping any partially empty mag in favor of a topped off mag. |
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I always had a hard time with the mag changes. Years of IPSC conditioned me to dump almost empty mags on the ground. I did like the blind stages, and the idea of stock guns. I never got into IPSC open class. What really pissed me off about IDPA was Bill Wilsons attitude when the new rule book came out. It seemed like he was saying "this is My game, if you don't like it, tuff shit" I think it's a mistake to not have an elected board of directors, so the membership can have a say in things. Outlawing the cheap Kydex Uncle Mikes holster, is an example of a stupid rule that I bet most members would not want to see put in the rule book, but Wilson insisted it stay. Making 5" revolvers illegal, but not 5" autos OK, is another dumb idea. I think if you can conceal a 8" gun, you should be able to use it ! But the last straw was when i read about Taran Butler getting a DQ at the Nationals after He went home. The MD and RO's got together, after the match, and decided to DQ him for unsportsman like conduct. During the match, he had only got one procedural. I think it's bullshit to DQ someone without giving them a chance to defend themselves. If you're gonna DQ me, do it to My face ! You can read about it on Brian enos forum... www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=27922&st=0 |
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I voted, but I also shoot these:
Smallbore Rifle Silhouette Bianchi Cup aka NRA Action Pistol <------Twice a year Steel Challenge Pin Shoots |
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None at the moment, but I want to to shoot Rifle and Pistol Metallic Silhouette. Having trouble finding places that hold these matches.
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John M., the Match director, wanted to talk to Mr. Butler about the situation after he shot but could not find him because he had already left. He left several messages for Mr. Butler and did not recieve a call back. John would've DQed him to his face if he hadn't left before he had the opportunity to. |
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Have you ever heard the phrase "inmates running the asylum"? Well that didn't work for IPSC. They have drifted so far from their original intent to be practical. It is now just "golf" with guns. For the record I have nothing against IPSC /USPSA it is just not my thing. |
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BTW IDPA is open to suggestions from the membership as long as those suggestions meet with the original intent and spirit of IDPA.
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April to September I shoot 6mm PPC Benchrest nationally under auspices of the IBS.
November to April I shoot 3-position 22 cal indoors with a team in Coxsackie, NY. against teams in Albany and Schenectady, NY. Since I just got a beautiful 1944 Springfield Garand, I'm thinking about getting into some new competitions. |
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Taran says He stuck around after He was done, and He saw John May after the match, stopped him and said he was sorry for the mistake. John May waited till Taran was back in CA. before he called and DQ'ed him. You can read about this at the end of the thread on Brian Eno's forum, I posted the link above. It's written By Taran Butler himself. When a shooter gets a procedural or DQ, it should be on the spot. Not after the match. |
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If Taran was doing things that were so wrong during the match, why wasn't he penalized on each stage with a procedural? If what he was doing was bad enough to be DQ'ed, it should have been done during the match. The mere fact that you can be Disqualified, after the match without your side of the story being heard, is crazy.
Actually, it seems to be working just fine. Give the people what they want.
As long as you want what Bill wants, it's fine. I'm not trying to give you a hard time, but IDPA and the way it's run just isn't my thing. ++++++++++++++ Can you tell I shoot USPSA/IPSC and hardly any IDPA? |
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+ 1000 |
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slacked a bit last year b/c of new job..
but usually Highpower 2 or 3 matches a year (Service Rifle) Smallbore 1 or 2 matches a year (3200 matches sometimes just 1 day (1600)) Black Powder 1 or 2 matches a year (offhand 25 and 50yd targets, various types.. I want to try over the log next) If I have a free weekend, I have shot a few IHMSA matches as well |
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It is very unfortunate that events happened the way they did. I too would like to be DQed to my face. Unfortunately his behavior as a whole did not come totally to light until after he finished shooting and had left. Personally I gave him slack because of his inexperience in the sport. here is my post on the BE forum: "I was the Chief Safety Officer for 3 stages on bay 9 at this years Nationals. I arrived at the nightly scheduled CSO meeting on time and everyone was already there and talking so I think I missed some of the talk about Mr. Butler. It seems that each CSO had an issue with Mr. Butler. On my bay I had to stop him from checking the angles (individual course walk through). At the time, I figured since this was only his second Nationals and that he is mainly an IPSC shooter that he might not know better and I didn't feel like it warranted any other action on my part besides stopping him. It is a shame that Mr. Butler had to be DQed after the fact when all the information surfaced. I know that John May would have liked to have talked to Mr. Butler face to face but that opportunity was lost when he left. Alot of people have been really pushing the envelope the last few years in IDPA. I think the new rule book was the first step in setting the sport back on its intended path. The next step is to start enforcing these new rules more stringently. To quote John May "It's is time to take our sport back". We all need to follow the rules and not see how far we can push that envelope. Just shoot by the rules and the best shooter on any given day will be the winner." As said before I have nothing personal against IPSC/USPSA or Mr. Butler. |
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There is nothing pratical about USPSA/IPSC anymore. And their use of DVC isn't what Jeff Cooper meant when he invented it. The problems with IPSC started with comped .38 super race guns and the Gamers who used them. When IDPA came out it wasn't to bad but the Gamers are taking it over too. Same thing with the "pink tink" cowboy shooters. At least DVC still works in steel matches. |
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There is nothing pratical about USPSA/IPSC anymore. And their use of DVC isn't what Jeff Cooper meant when he invented it. The problems with IPSC started with comped .38 super race guns and the Gamers who used them. When IDPA came out it wasn't to bad but the Gamers are taking it over too. Same thing with the "pink tink" cowboy shooters. At least DVC still works in steel matches. |
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