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Yup, that sounds just like what he'd want his persona to say.
He had lots of practice with all the wives and multiple families he started. One of his daughters, Aissa married over and over again (no surprise), finding unhappiness and abuse in her life instead...but maybe she loved America? To his credit, he didn't say he wanted his daughters to be happy and make good decisions. |
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Yup, that sounds just like what he'd want his persona to say. He had lots of practice with all the wives and multiple families he started. One of his daughters, Aissa married over and over again (no surprise), finding unhappiness and abuse in her life instead...but maybe she loved America? To his credit, he didn't say he wanted his daughters to be happy and make good decisions. View Quote Ouch! That's gonna leave a mark. |
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Yup, that sounds just like what he'd want his persona to say. He had lots of practice with all the wives and multiple families he started. One of his daughters, Aissa married over and over again (no surprise), finding unhappiness and abuse in her life instead...but maybe she loved America? To his credit, he didn't say he wanted his daughters to be happy and make good decisions. View Quote The point. You missed it. It's over there -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------> . |
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Why do grown men fall for what an actor has to say just because he's wearing a cowboy outfit? Here’s a hint. He’s acting. It’s the E channel from the 60’s. We went from cowboys to fat ass Armenian chicks with black guy fetish. Can’t wait to see what the next 20 years look like when muskrat love Kim represents the good ole days.
BTW. You can hear the emphysema with his inhales even then. |
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Yup, that sounds just like what he'd want his persona to say. He had lots of practice with all the wives and multiple families he started. One of his daughters, Aissa married over and over again (no surprise), finding unhappiness and abuse in her life instead...but maybe she loved America? To his credit, he didn't say he wanted his daughters to be happy and make good decisions. View Quote Gotta be one in every group. |
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Nevermind, I found swingset's idea of a celebrity role model for youth: http://youtu.be/9-JLnlW5qYo View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Yup, that sounds just like what he'd want his persona to say. He had lots of practice with all the wives and multiple families he started. One of his daughters, Aissa married over and over again (no surprise), finding unhappiness and abuse in her life instead...but maybe she loved America? To his credit, he didn't say he wanted his daughters to be happy and make good decisions. Nevermind, I found swingset's idea of a celebrity role model for youth: http://youtu.be/9-JLnlW5qYo Mike Myers? |
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My dad worked for the phone company and his crew did a lot of work for the "stars". He had Sonny & Cher, Don Knotts and a few others. One day he was helping someone at John Wayne's house in Encino. John Wayne saw them sitting out in the back yard at a table eating lunch from their lunch buckets. He came out, said he'd have none of that and had his housekeeper cook them some steaks. Dad said he was a real nice guy.
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One of the High Def channels has been running Duke movies for the last day or so. I miss that man!
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Was a better actor than many gave him credit for, especially in the Searchers.
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I will take the Duke over what passes for celebrities(uneducated,uninformed and mindless ass holes) today. As a parent you do all you can and some times it works and other times they go off the deep end. Figure it out.
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I will take the Duke over what passes for celebrities(uneducated,uninformed and mindless ass holes) today. As a parent you do all you can and some times it works and other times they go off the deep end. Figure it out. View Quote This rings true. Even if he WAS a jerk... his public persona was one of decency. Measured against the likes of other 'celebrities' who are worshipped today, whose public personae are those of tramps and assholes, he's a gentleman. "I'm an old-fashioned gentleman, which means i can be a cast-iron son of a bitch if I want to."-- Jubal Harshaw, from "Stranger In a Strange Land." |
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This rings true. Even if he WAS a jerk... his public persona was one of decency. Measured against the likes of other 'celebrities' who are worshipped today, whose public personae are those of tramps and assholes, he's a gentleman. "I'm an old-fashioned gentleman, which means i can be a cast-iron son of a bitch if I want to."-- Jubal Harshaw, from "Stranger In a Strange Land." View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I will take the Duke over what passes for celebrities(uneducated,uninformed and mindless ass holes) today. As a parent you do all you can and some times it works and other times they go off the deep end. Figure it out. This rings true. Even if he WAS a jerk... his public persona was one of decency. Measured against the likes of other 'celebrities' who are worshipped today, whose public personae are those of tramps and assholes, he's a gentleman. "I'm an old-fashioned gentleman, which means i can be a cast-iron son of a bitch if I want to."-- Jubal Harshaw, from "Stranger In a Strange Land." I'm not an expert on Marion Morrison, Duke Morrison (which is what he preferred to be called), or John Wayne, but I never heard that he was some kind of celebrity asshole. |
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The point. You missed it. It's over there -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------> . View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Yup, that sounds just like what he'd want his persona to say. He had lots of practice with all the wives and multiple families he started. One of his daughters, Aissa married over and over again (no surprise), finding unhappiness and abuse in her life instead...but maybe she loved America? To his credit, he didn't say he wanted his daughters to be happy and make good decisions. The point. You missed it. It's over there -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------> . And swingset reinforces why he is the sole inhabitant of my ignore list. |
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Quoted: I'm not an expert on Marion Morrison, Duke Morrison (which is what he preferred to be called), or John Wayne, but I never heard that he was some kind of celebrity asshole. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I will take the Duke over what passes for celebrities(uneducated,uninformed and mindless ass holes) today. As a parent you do all you can and some times it works and other times they go off the deep end. Figure it out. This rings true. Even if he WAS a jerk... his public persona was one of decency. Measured against the likes of other 'celebrities' who are worshipped today, whose public personae are those of tramps and assholes, he's a gentleman. "I'm an old-fashioned gentleman, which means i can be a cast-iron son of a bitch if I want to."-- Jubal Harshaw, from "Stranger In a Strange Land." I'm not an expert on Marion Morrison, Duke Morrison (which is what he preferred to be called), or John Wayne, but I never heard that he was some kind of celebrity asshole. |
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He fucked around on his first wife a bunch and she dumped him and left with their kids. I don't know about his other wives. He supposedly got shitfaced a work and was kind of a prick when drunk (maybe who knows) [shrug] View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I will take the Duke over what passes for celebrities(uneducated,uninformed and mindless ass holes) today. As a parent you do all you can and some times it works and other times they go off the deep end. Figure it out. This rings true. Even if he WAS a jerk... his public persona was one of decency. Measured against the likes of other 'celebrities' who are worshipped today, whose public personae are those of tramps and assholes, he's a gentleman. "I'm an old-fashioned gentleman, which means i can be a cast-iron son of a bitch if I want to."-- Jubal Harshaw, from "Stranger In a Strange Land." I'm not an expert on Marion Morrison, Duke Morrison (which is what he preferred to be called), or John Wayne, but I never heard that he was some kind of celebrity asshole. "Let he, who is without sin......" |
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Just like the guy who thinks he is better for having his dad beat the ever loving shit out of him when he got caught drinking underage and I turned out OK despite not getting the shit beat out of me when I got caught by my parents after drinking underate, I also didn't learn the Lord's Prayer or any Psalms and yet I still turned out alright. To me it's just another worthless assumption.
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'm not an expert on Marion Morrison, Duke Morrison (which is what he preferred to be called), or John Wayne, but I never heard that he was some kind of celebrity asshole. "Let he, who is without sin......" It's not really relevant anyway as I was not criticizing, rather I was pointing out that Wayne did, perhaps undeservedly (I have no idea) had something of a reputation for being a bit of an asshole. |
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It was only the people that he was being asshole to that perceived him as an asshole.
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I will take the Duke over what passes for celebrities(uneducated,uninformed and mindless ass holes) today. As a parent you do all you can and some times it works and other times they go off the deep end. Figure it out. This rings true. Even if he WAS a jerk... his public persona was one of decency. Measured against the likes of other 'celebrities' who are worshipped today, whose public personae are those of tramps and assholes, he's a gentleman. "I'm an old-fashioned gentleman, which means i can be a cast-iron son of a bitch if I want to."-- Jubal Harshaw, from "Stranger In a Strange Land." I'm not an expert on Marion Morrison, Duke Morrison (which is what he preferred to be called), or John Wayne, but I never heard that he was some kind of celebrity asshole. "Let he, who is without sin......" Hang on, I'm warming up my pitching arm. |
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Whoa!! http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=48644 Aimless, the Theologian. I'm impressed. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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"Let he, who is without sin......" Whoa!! http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=48644 Aimless, the Theologian. I'm impressed. I'm not..he cherry picks just like the rest. but.....Luke 6:42, Wayne was not a perfect man...but he was trying to do better...much like most Christians. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: "Let he, who is without sin......" Whoa!! http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=48644 Aimless, the Theologian. I'm impressed. At least you didn't copy and paste from wikipedia.
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Quoted: The point. You missed it. It's over there -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------> . View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Yup, that sounds just like what he'd want his persona to say. He had lots of practice with all the wives and multiple families he started. One of his daughters, Aissa married over and over again (no surprise), finding unhappiness and abuse in her life instead...but maybe she loved America? To his credit, he didn't say he wanted his daughters to be happy and make good decisions. The point. You missed it. It's over there -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------> . No, I got the point just fine....but I despise hypocrites and Wayne was a great example of saying all the right things while living pretty much none of them. No different, really, when we look to the libtards with huge carbon footprints telling us we should all save the earth. The liberals that adore them love their message and overlook the hypocrisy, and people who look at Wayne as some pillar of conservatism are doing the same thing. He was a man of conservative values, except he had many broken marriages, infidelity, alcoholism, one of his wives had an abortion because they fucked around before getting married. So, if you want to say what a great message he's saying for espousing patriotism as a parent, awesome - it is - but it comes from a very flawed man who should not be waving the banner of great parenting....or at the very least should have been living a better example for his children which might have saved some of them from the messed up lives they led. Choose better idols, if you don't want someone to point out reality to you. He was an actor, not his characters. |
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Why do grown men fall for what an actor has to say just because he's wearing a cowboy outfit? Here’s a hint. He’s acting. It’s the E channel from the 60’s. We went from cowboys to fat ass Armenian chicks with black guy fetish. Can’t wait to see what the next 20 years look like when muskrat love Kim represents the good ole days. BTW. You can hear the emphysema with his inhales even then. View Quote True dat. |
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El Dorado, True Grit, Rooster Cogburn, The Cowboys, Rio Bravo....to name but a few.
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I'm not a big John Wayne fan, but I watched The Searchers because ETH said it was his favorite (I think) film. I heard a biographer say that Wayne was at his best when a director pushed him, like John Ford did. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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El Dorado, True Grit, Rooster Cogburn, The Cowboys, Rio Bravo....to name but a few. Great Stuff! I agree. The Quiet Man and The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance were two others that they worked together on. John Wayne and Howard Hawks worked well together too. |
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John Wayne was a hero to my Grandfather (a WWII vet); and we watched his movies together whenever we could. I inherited my opinion of John Wayne from that time spent watching those movies with him. The only time I saw my Grandfather cry was when I was 9 years old and we had just found out John Wayne had passed on. I view John Wayne as a personal hero and think he was a good man, a great actor, and a great American. He was like any other man though, he had feet of clay.
Looking back, his reaction to the election of JFK is something we could all stand to learn. "I didn't vote for him but he's my president, and I hope he does a good job." I've been whispering words to that effect since 2008.
I think his best move was The Quiet Man, but my Grandfather was a western fan so I've watched all those too. |
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Quoted: John Wayne was a hero to my Grandfather (a WWII vet); and we watched his movies together whenever we could. I inherited my opinion of John Wayne from that time spent watching those movies with him. The only time I saw my Grandfather cry was when I was 9 years old and we had just found out John Wayne had passed on. I view John Wayne as a personal hero and think he was a good man, a great actor, and a great American. He was like any other man though, he had feet of clay. View Quote Looking back, his reaction to the election of JFK is something we could all stand to learn. "I didn't vote for him but he's my president, and I hope he does a good job." I've been whispering words to that effect since 2008. I think his best move was The Quiet Man, but my Grandfather was a western fan so I've watched all those too. Damn he was a cool uncle.
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My uncle loved John Wayne films. When I was a boy I was at his house and was flipping through the channels and found a black and white John Wayne movie. I went and got him and asked him to watch it with me. He came into the room and kind of squinted It was some odd movie where John Wayne was in Japan (Maybe The Barbarian and the Geisha ?). My uncle grumbled and said "The Duke in Japan? Forget it, I'll take you for ice cream" Damn he was a cool uncle. View Quote I bet that movie was "The Conqueror" where he played Genghis Kahn, the worse movie the Duke ever made. |
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Quoted: I bet that movie was "The Conqueror" where he played Genghis Kahn, the worse movie the Duke ever made. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: My uncle loved John Wayne films. When I was a boy I was at his house and was flipping through the channels and found a black and white John Wayne movie. I went and got him and asked him to watch it with me. He came into the room and kind of squinted It was some odd movie where John Wayne was in Japan (Maybe The Barbarian and the Geisha ?). My uncle grumbled and said "The Duke in Japan? Forget it, I'll take you for ice cream" Damn he was a cool uncle. I bet that movie was "The Conqueror" where he played Genghis Kahn, the worse movie the Duke ever made. Egads, Genghis Khan? I guess he had a good work ethic. Is that the one where they think he got cancer in the desert or something?
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Quoted: I bet that movie was "The Conqueror" where he played Genghis Kahn, the worse movie the Duke ever made. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: My uncle loved John Wayne films. When I was a boy I was at his house and was flipping through the channels and found a black and white John Wayne movie. I went and got him and asked him to watch it with me. He came into the room and kind of squinted It was some odd movie where John Wayne was in Japan (Maybe The Barbarian and the Geisha ?). My uncle grumbled and said "The Duke in Japan? Forget it, I'll take you for ice cream" Damn he was a cool uncle. I bet that movie was "The Conqueror" where he played Genghis Kahn, the worse movie the Duke ever made. From Wikipedia The exterior scenes were shot on location near St. George, Utah, 137 miles (220 km) downwind of the United States government's Nevada National Security Site. In 1953, extensive above-ground nuclear weapons testing occurred at the test site as part of Operation Upshot-Knothole. The cast and crew spent many difficult weeks on location, and in addition Hughes later shipped 60 tons of dirt back to Hollywood in order to match the Utah terrain and lend verisimilitude to studio re-shoots.[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Conqueror_(film)#cite_note-Straightdope-4][4][/url]The filmmakers knew about the nuclear tests[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Conqueror_(film)#cite_note-Straightdope-4][4][/url] but the federal government reassured residents that the tests caused no hazard to public health.[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Conqueror_(film)#cite_note-People-11][11][/url] Director Dick Powell died of cancer in January 1963, seven years after the film's release. Pedro Armendáriz was diagnosed with kidney cancer in 1960, and committed suicide in 1963 after he learned his condition had become terminal. Hayward, Wayne, and Moorehead all died of cancer in the 1970s. Cast member actor John Hoyt died of lung cancer in 1991. Skeptics point to other factors such as the wide use of tobacco — Wayne and Moorehead in particular were heavy smokers. The cast and crew totaled 220 people. By 1981, 91 of them had developed some form of cancer and 46 had died of the disease. Several of Wayne and Hayward's relatives also had cancer scares as well after visiting the set. Michael Wayne developed skin cancer, his brother Patrick had a benign tumor removed from his breast and Hayward's son Tim Barker had a benign tumor removed from his mouth. [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Conqueror_(film)#cite_note-People-11][11][/url][url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Conqueror_(film)#cite_note-12][12][/url] Dr. Robert Pendleton, professor of biology at the University of Utah, stated, "With these numbers, this case could qualify as an epidemic. The connection between fallout radiation and cancer in individual cases has been practically impossible to prove conclusively. But in a group this size you'd expect only 30-some cancers to develop. With 91, I think the tie-in to their exposure on the set of The Conqueror would hold up in a court of law." Indeed, several cast and crew members, as well as relatives of those who died, considered suing the government for negligence, claiming it knew more about the hazards in the area than it let on.[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Conqueror_(film)#cite_note-People-11][11][/url][url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Conqueror_(film)#cite_note-13][13][/url] |
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